Former Warrior ailing

June 29th, 2010
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Sad to hear that former UH defensive back Kent Kafentzis, a cancer survivor, is enduring a medical setback.

His family is setting up a foundation in which donations will be used to pay for his medical expenses.

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To help replace the loss of income from the Pigskin Pigout, which is on hiatus for a year, Na Koa is considering holding a telethon. Proceeds will be used to pay supplement summer school, the football training table, and some football-related positions.

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Former UH players David Veikune, Isaako "Isaac" Sopoaga and Jake Ingram will be among the guests at the 2010 Hawaii Football Scholarship Dinner at the Honoluu Country Club.

The dinner will be held July 9, from 5:30 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Tickets start at $150 apiece, and 10-seat tables may be purchased for between $1,500 and $5,000.

Proceeds help subsidize the cost of UH's football camps.

For information, call 224-0911.

366 Responses to “Former Warrior ailing”

  1. ai-eee-soos:

    mornin'


  2. Pomai:

    two


  3. Pomai:

    al yesterday's blog #174


  4. wafan:

    WOW! Number 4!!!

    Have not been this close to number 1 in forever.


  5. wafan:

    Woke up this morning thinking it an odd dream.

    Got on the blog and, nope. GG was here.

    BTW, Advil is hard on the liver. Tylenol, according to my docs, is better and safer.


  6. wafan:

    Best wishes for a full and quick recovery for Kent K.


  7. NYUH:

    darn, looks like I'm scheduled in a workshop all day Wed. Don't think I can make Maple Garden. Will try to sneak out for afternoon practice as I will be at the EWC.


  8. Pomai:

    al maybe need to re-schedule cc for next week when both wafan an NYUH are in town, just throwing it out...


  9. rage777:

    Just wanted to say thanks to Scott for the numbers and the links at the top of the page for the previous/next posts. Now you may proceed in playing with your new iPhone.


  10. mano:

    Morning. Prayer for Kent.


  11. d1島:

    Great Morning All!

    Healing thoughts for Kent Kafentzis.


  12. d1島:

    Nice to hear that talks are underway for more games with Navy.


  13. d1島:

    Hello?

    Hello?

    Telethon?

    ...need help answering phones?


  14. d1島:

    NYUH,

    Too bad. Was looking forward to meeting you.

    Hmmmm....

    wat kine fuud get at the workshop? :lol:


  15. d1島:

    Pomai,

    No worry, beef curry...just show up, you can "surprise" Al! ;-)


  16. haka:

    Prayers to Kent Kafentzis and family. Rainbows are forever!


  17. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!!

    Best wishes to the Kafentzis family.

    Thanks, Scott, for the links to the previous/next posts.

    wafan - I think you got it mixed up. Tylenol is worse on the liver. It's easy to get the higher than recommended max daily dose, esp if you're taking a prescription pain killer or cold drug that includes it. Max amount is 1g/dose or 4g/day.


  18. WATCH GODGIFU:

    Good Morning Hawaii!

    Gee, top 20!
    Alert the media!


  19. WATCH GODGIFU:

    WAFAN:

    CHECK TYLENOL WEBPAGE FIRST!!!!!

    There was a recall of certain bottles (brands?) of Tylenol by the manufacturer.


  20. chopsueyboy:

    twenty?


  21. 702WarriorFan:

    Best wishes to the Kafentzis family.

    Good morning all and welcome home LizK- can’t wait to see your pics and read da stories too.
    Good to have numbers back again.

    Da Mouse is in the house with BC sometime this morning.

    Looks like reunion of the 07 Tsaikos – but missing LV san
    Can dream for 07 in 10 repeat at Aloha and on the road.


  22. chopsueyboy:

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

    Best wishes to the Kafentzis family.


  23. Kazz:

    MOUSE DAVIS ON 1420 IN A FEW MINUTES.


  24. Buffoman:

    Could Garret, ST or someone with an opinion that seems valid tell me why the WAC is such a pathetic conference? I realize that pathetic is a harsh word but really, it appears that of the so called major and mid- major conferences this one has no respect. I would guess that one question that stays with me in the matter is, "is UH the unattractive piece to the conference (largely die to the cost to travel)?" If we are indeed the entity that is holding the conference down, is it not a matter of time when the rest of the WAC will bolt to do something different just as they (BYU, Utah, etc.,) did in the past?

    Really now, if this is "ugly just waiting to get uglier" should we not be more proactive in seeking contingencies as opposed to awaiting an inglorious fate...again.


  25. Kazz:

    Best wishes to the Kent Kafentzis Ohana.

    ST, do you know where the donation account will be?


  26. gigi-hawaii:

    It's too bad about Kent. Cancer is always scary. I hope he pulls through.

    I don't think the WAC is that bad. In fact, I think it is a good, solid conference. The NFL and NBA have drawn quite a few players from the WAC.


  27. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good Morning Gangeez! :) :) :)

    Prayers for Keny Kafentzis.


  28. gigi-hawaii:

    Hi DPK. Is your novel finished, now? When are you going to send it out to agents?


  29. Garret:

    Best wishes to the Kent Kafentzis Ohana.


  30. papajoe2:

    Liked Dave Reardon's article about Brian Ching. Only if...... I've known Brian and his whole family since Brian was a little boy. I give him credit for being a outstanding person, not just a soccer player. Even though not making the USA team was one of the worst feeling that he had to go through, he's still taking it with class refusing to blame people. His father, Francis (Fongie) Ching worked for the HA a while back. Brian's half sister is Tracie Ruiz, who won a gold medal in synchronized swimming in the Olympics back in the late 60's or 70's (sorry, too long ago, as I can't remember). His mother and brothers are great people too. Hawaii, the USA soccer team, and the world will be wondering what if..... The USA forwards or strikers, Brian's position, did not score a single goal during the World Cup in spite of having many opportunities. Too bad for them. nNo worry , Brian, Hawaii will always be here waiting for a great Hawaiian to come home.


  31. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    Al: I’ll be at tomorrow's CC. There’s plenty of parking on King Street across from First Hawaiian Bank – where Chunky’s used to be – if nothing is available on Isenberg Street or in the restaurant’s lot.


  32. Buffoman:

    Gidi:

    If the WAC is not bad, why is it no one wants to jump from their conference to join the WAC? Why is their power rating always looked upon as weak? Why does the WAC get but one or two invites (one being conference champion) to any NCAA competitions? In basketball, even the WCAC gets more respect than the WAC.

    Please make an arguement for the WAC as I cannot see it at the moment.


  33. homey ︻╦╤─:

    al - Barring any lethal acts of nature, last minute good for nothing meeting, car trouble, illness, multiple quickies, etc., I will be there tomorrow.


  34. gigi-hawaii:

    Buffo:

    I just think being in the WAC, such as it is, is better than going independent. And if the WAC is so weak, let's see if UH can win the WAC championship. I don't think the conference teams are all that easy to beat. If so, let's see it happen!


  35. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    Need to know if there's going to be a CC tomorrow after all. Please let us know one way or t'other.

    Wish I could afford the tickets to next week's fundraiser, but we just renewed our volleyball tickets yesterday and men's basketball renewal deadline is about three weeks from now. We wanted to upgrade and move to the lower level, but our tickets would have gone from $255 for two to $595 for two.

    I know, I know - gotta pay for the high costs of running these great programs, but I wish there were some upgrade prices which are at an intermediate level.

    At least we were able to move down seven rows, but I hope that the view is not blocked by the waist-high metal railings at the bottom of the stars - not the lower railings in the middle of the rows

    Have to go to work now - big, big project deadlne coming up.


  36. papajoe2:

    Homey #33, can you explain multiple quickies?


  37. sjmacro:

    Good morning Tsaikos; Health and healing prayers to Kent and his ohana--from fellow survivors to a Warrior and Survivor. sj & myki


  38. Stephen Tsai:

    Buffoman:
    With Boise State leaving and the WAC unable to find a replacement, there is this feeling that the WAC has somehow become a diminished product. And, yes, losing Boise State will diminish the product.
    But the reality is that for all of the shuffling, except for USC, all teams from the Rockies and westward have always had a diminished image. Think of the Heisman races, when Marshall Faulk lost out to Gino What's-his-Name from Miami, or Ladainian Tomlinson barely getting any national love. (And, yes, I know Fort Worth is east of the Rockies, but TCU was in the WAC at the time.)
    These days, we look back fondly on the old WAC. But the old WAC, of BYU and Utah and Air Force, still got limited love compared to the accomplishments. And UH fans don't look back and remember those UH-Utah or UH-Wyoming games. They remember the BYU games and the Marshall Faulk games.
    Trouble is you get a taste of the BCS life, and sometimes you think you're better that you really are. I liken it to associate membership at Waialae Country Club, where you have limited access. Boise State has been to the BCS, but it never will be part of the BCS. Please, may I have your pass back before you leave. So, it's OK to have BCS dreams; I have MegaBucks dreams all of the time. But at the end, I'm at the $5 blackjack table and the WAC and Mountain West still are not the SEC or Big Ten or, for that matter, the Big East.
    If you're a WAC or UH fan, you just make the most of it. Create your own rivalries. Enjoy the victories. And each fan should remember, it is about you. Do you really care if UH has nice academic facilities or great training room? I mean, uh, sure. But if you're a fan, you care that you can get a good affordable and comfortable seat to an entertaining game. While it might be interesting if UH or the WAC has a good TV contract, what you really think is: Can I see every game I want to see on TV? And whether UH is $10 million in debt or $50 million in the hole, if they're still playing games and the power hasn't been turned off, then life goes on.


  39. Kazz:

    Anyone wanna bet that if Hawaii and our travel time and costs weren't involved, the WAC would seem a little more appealing to other schools to join?

    The only kind of plausible leverage we can muster, aside from offering travel subsides, is if we can really win in football and men's basketball.

    On a related note... Will Coach Coolen and Shoji offer some time to host coaching clinics to fellow UH coaches? :cool:


  40. sjmacro:

    Add two more for tomorrow's CC count please --sj & myki


  41. Kazz:

    Why isn't there a UH Men's Soccer team?

    Schollie #s??? Well can't they just match up the female schollie numbers by adding more to certain female sports to balance it out as opposed to adding another female athletic program?

    Like-wise, couldn't they add more schollies to men's volleyball by adding more schollies to current exisiting female programs to balance it out???


  42. Fact Checker:

    I miss the Honolulu Advertiser. Really,really hate this Star Advertiser.


  43. Kazz:

    Im REALLY starting to HATE Wednesdays.


  44. Kazz:

    papajoe2,

    Multiple quickies = one good night. :cool:


  45. Garret:

    Buffoman,

    The part of Ferd's article that stood out to me the most was how North Texas turned down the WAC to stay in the *Sun Belt* conference. Wow.

    When you think about it, the teams that broke away to form the MWC were going to pick the most attractive schools at that time for their conference. Then another group left for C-USA. So, there are fundamental problems with the schools left behind and not many attractive options to replace the losses...if not, those schools would have been invited to the MWC or C-USA.

    UH and La Tech are a big problem for the conference in travel. Travel costs and time away from school due to travel time are issues that conferences need to worry about. The travel issue would be minimal for La Tech if they could join C-USA, but they aren't attractive enough for C-USA to take them...so, if they aren't good enough for C-USA *without* a travel problem, you can imagine how good they are for the WAC with a huge travel problem.

    Both La Tech and North Texas have major facility upgrades going on...positioning themselves to get into the C-USA if the C-USA gets raided.

    SJSU almost had to kill their Athletic program a few years ago and they have major financial limitations. They also are a commuter school with students that don't care much about their athletic teams, which makes it hard to raise more money and get people to attend their games.

    Utah State is small and has very limited growth possibilities due to the size of their school and the city where they are located. Their facilities will be smaller and their funding will be less because of that. That isn't a big problem for basketball, but it is a big limitation for football.

    Idaho has a lot of the same problems that Utah State has. Both Idaho and Utah State also have the problem of being in states where other schools are clearly above them in fan interest.

    NMSU has had to cut $3 million from their already underfunded Athletic Department. Their TV market is small and their growth possibilities are limited. When you have to ask your fans to bring juice boxes and snacks to practices because you cannot afford to feed your players after practice and *then* you cut $3 million from your budget, you are really being squeezed.

    Nevada is one of the 3 strongest teams left in the WAC and they had to cut both skiing teams and may have to cut another sport soon. They are being hurt by budget cuts due to the state of Nevada's situation.

    Fresno State is running a deficit and is having to take money from their endowment to pay their bills...and they are probably the WAC school left (I'm excluding BSU in this) in the strongest financial situation with their facility condition, donor strength, and endowment.

    UH has a deficit that grows every year, big travel cost and time burden, and does not bring the TV ratings it used to. The value of the late-night ESPN time slot has been discussed a lot here, but ESPN could show UH games in that time slot for free and chose *not* to this season...they picked the season opener in order to show USC, not for UH.

    This was probably more brutal than I should be. There is a reason why Fresno State, Nevada, and UH would back-stab any of the others to get into the MWC if they could. Try to forget about the lack of TV revenue and travel costs...the WAC could raise a lot of money if they had basketball success like the MWC, WCC, or Big West. But WAC schools seem to lose the opening round basketball games far too often in the tournament, and that costs every WAC school a lot of money.

    If you want to look deeper into the problem, you have to look at the communities where each school is located. A booming economy there means that there are alumni with money in their pockets and companies looking to donate to the school in their area. Is Oahu's economy booming? Reno's? Ruston's?

    From what I can tell, the *only* WAC city that has a growing high-tech economy is Boise. That means that BSU grads working at those companies are earning 6-figures and those companies can donate to BSU. When a high-tech company (Micron) in Boise can buy (this happened last month) one of their competitors for $1.2 billion, they are just going to keep expanding. Micron recruits a lot of their workers from BSU...which University are those new graduates going to donate to?


  46. Garret:

    Buffoman,

    I agree with gigi and being in the WAC is better than going independent.


  47. Slugger:

    Good Morning!

    Prayers for Kent Kafentzis.


  48. Stephen Tsai:

    Quick history:
    In 1992, UH wins a share of the WAC title, then defeats Illinois in the Holiday Bowl. After that, the mid-WAC schools decide that to remain competitive, they needed to upgrade. So schools, like Utah and New Mexico, invest heavily in their football programs.
    Now:
    The same sort of commitment needs to be made by WAC schools, and schools that want to be WAC schools. But that's not easy in these economic times.


  49. Garret:

    Schollie #s??? Well can’t they just match up the female schollie numbers by adding more to certain female sports to balance it out as opposed to adding another female athletic program?

    Like-wise, couldn’t they add more schollies to men’s volleyball by adding more schollies to current exisiting female programs to balance it out???

    Kazz,

    Every sport has a *maximum* number of scholarships that they can give. UH cannot simply give more scholarships to one of their women's sports since they already max out the number of women's scholarships that have.

    If you think about it, the maximums are GOOD for UH. Otherwise, certain Pac-10, SEC, and Big 10 schools could give out twice the number of women's softball scholarships and make it impossible for UH to compete.


  50. Garret:

    ST,

    Nevada cut 2 teams and is looking to cut another.

    NMSU cut $3 million.

    UH is cutting everything it can without affecting the on-field product too much.

    The times where schools could invest more were the golden days...now, the budgets are getting squeezed from all ends.


  51. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Soory, that should read "Kent"


  52. Kazz:

    The more and more I think about North Texas turning down the WAC offer in 2004 to stay in the Sun Belt leaves me to believe two things:

    1) They really don't want the trip to Hawaii.

    2) ..... (hmmmm.... yeah...) They don't want to deal with the travel to Hawaii.


  53. Garret:

    Interesting article on CNN today about how college athletes are squeezed by all of the time they miss in class due to travel demands of their sports.

    Boston College travels to Miami for competition in the Atlantic Coast Conference; Louisiana Tech has league games in Hawaii and Boise, Idaho. East Carolina has a league opponent in Houston, Texas. Now that Nebraska is going to the Big Ten, its athletes will make their way from Lincoln to State College, Pennsylvania, a journey of 1,072 miles.

    When the latest round of expansion talks in college athletics was being discussed, student athletes' welfare and the travel burden was not, so to say, driving the discussion. But those who work with athletes to keep their grades up insist the simultaneous pressures of academia and athletics can be a burden.

    "A lot of the conferences are being realigned because of the commercial market for football," said Amy Perko, the Executive Director of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics, which is watchdog on college athletics. "The financial decisions need to be made with an eye toward how they impact the university and all student athletes. What may work with football because football games are on a Saturday may not work for the other 16 sports."


  54. Garret:

    Dr. Ed Etzel, a psychologist and professor at West Virginia University who has worked with student athletes, said the rigors of travel take their toll.

    "Even for the best, most motivated and well-organized students, it can be challenging to deal with trying to be excused from classes, do work in advance or make up work, studying on the road in a bus, in airplane, airport or hotel," Etzel said. "The focus of these trip is to be preparing for, participating in, and subsequently recovering from physically and psychologically demanding competitions.

    "It is particularly challenging when travel and competition is during weekdays -- something that is quite common."


  55. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Gigi -
    The novel is now a screenplay. It has an agent. Thanks for asking.


  56. Stephen Tsai:

    Garret is right about the economic health of each WAC city.
    And given the cutbacks and financial problems, it would be unreasonable for the California I-AA schools to consider an upgrade unless moving up would guarantee prosperity.


  57. Garret:

    La Tech announced their facility upgrade campaign. This is good for the WAC...except that they are doing this to make themselves more attractive to the C-USA.

    Louisiana Tech officials made a historic announcement Tuesday afternoon as Tech President Dr. Dan Reneau, Athletics Director Bruce Van De Velde and alum Steve Davison unveiled the plans for the "Quest for Excellence" - a $20 million fundraising campaign geared towards the construction of a 90,000-plus square-foot multipurpose facility in the south end zone of Joe Aillet Stadium.

    The new facility will benefit all of Louisiana Tech's student-athletes as it will include a new state-of-the-art sports medicine facility, a new strength and conditioning complex and a new academic center.

    Louisiana Tech already ranks among the state and conference leaders in student-athlete graduation rate and in Academic Progress Report rate, and the new academic center will further enhance and emphasize the University's stance on the classroom.

    Additionally, the facility will include new coaches' offices and locker rooms for football, baseball, soccer, tennis, softball, golf and track and field. It will house a new administrative suite with offices and meeting areas for the University's athletic administrative staff, including athletics director, media relations, external affairs and business office.


  58. GRM:

    Gigi,
    Glad to see you back on the blog.

    Prayers to the Kafentzis Ohana.


  59. Stephen Tsai:

    I don't think North Texas wants to deal with trips to California, either.


  60. Garret:

    All of the $20 million will come from private donors and they already have $9 million of it. Terry Bradshaw is one of the big donors and is on the leadership team that is getting the rest of the money.

    The new facility will also include new meeting rooms, a new auditorium that can be used for large classroom teaching on campus and team and department meetings, a Hall of Fame memorabilia area, a video room with state-of-the-art video capabilities, equipment room and a large premium seating club that will sit high above the south end zone.

    Davison, who is serving as the chair of the Leadership Team for the project which also includes Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback Terry Bradshaw and Community Trust Bank CEO Drake Mills, announced a number of private leadership gifts totaling more than $9 million as the entire project will be funded by private money.

    The initial leadership gifts come from Dr. Guthrie Jarrell, Rick Shirley, Terry Bradshaw and members of the Davison family, including James, Todd, Steve and Jim. The Leadership Team has already identified a number of other donors who have vowed to make pledges to the project..


  61. Kazz:

    Nevada cut the ski team last year. To me that was smart and prudent.

    College sports programs that are "restrictive" to the specific location and or culture of that school that offers it is something that should be looked at in cutting if things ever get that bad.

    Like with Boise State and their rodeo program, sports like these should be reduced to the "club level" as there is no national collegiate platform or "stage" for programs like these to compete in.

    Not sure what Nevada is looking at cutting or what the second sport was that they did cut, but they should think about the sports that would effect their chance at national exposure.


  62. Stephen Tsai:

    I'm thinking this whole problem is rooted in that there is no playoff system.


  63. Garret:

    They hired a *very* good company to take charge of this work.

    The firm has created some of the most recognizable professional sports venues in the country, including Yankee Stadium, Busch Stadium, AT&T Park, Pepsi Center, PNC Park, PETCO Park, Oriole Park at Camden Yards and Reliant Stadium.

    The company has also built a reputation in the collegiate world, partnering with universities such as Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Minnesota and Washington on new athletic facilities.


  64. gigi-hawaii:

    That's terrific, DPK! Congrats and good luck.


  65. Stephen Tsai:

    It's interesting for the WAC (and MWC) that the money-maker is a BCS bowl. But for BCS conferences, because they already are guaranteed BCS bowl money, their growth comes from TV revenue.
    Anybody else think the bubble has to burst sometime?


  66. Kazz:

    Who's gonna donate the money to LaTech to move the entire campus out of Ruston?

    That alone should help themselves in looking appealing to other conferences! :lol:


  67. Kazz:

    Stephen Tsai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 8:48 am

    It’s interesting for the WAC (and MWC) that the money-maker is a BCS bowl. But for BCS conferences, because they already are guaranteed BCS bowl money, their growth comes from TV revenue.
    Anybody else think the bubble has to burst sometime?

    Usually "things" give way.

    But in this case, how can the "bubble" burst when the makers and caretakers of the "bubble" are almost untouchable compared to the NCAA?


  68. Stephen Tsai:

    UH's new football offices are pretty amazing. Trouble is you have to pass the old offices, which are not amazing.


  69. Garret:

    ST,

    Look what happened with the NCAA men's tournament. That is an awesome playoff system far more equitable than is possible with football since you cannot play 2 games every week in a football playoff.

    The disparity between what the "haves" get in basketball money compared to the WAC is MORE than the disparity in football! The *regular-season* football games is where the money is and a playoff system would do nothing to change that. Going back to the old bowl system would be worse for the WAC and UH. Going to a playoff system would not change the fact that regular-season money dwarfs postseason money. If the football playoff system paid in a similar manner as basketball (wins equals dollars), then the WAC would be in worse shape than the current BCS system where more dollars are guaranteed than the WAC ever got from the Bowl system.


  70. homey ︻╦╤─:

    pp2 - multiple quickies for koakane is drinking 2 or more beers in 3 minutes.


  71. Kazz:

    HEY!!!

    They're replacing the roof at Les Murakami Stadium!!!!


  72. Bigislandkurt:

    @ST #38....
    That's what I've been saying all along. Forget getting caught up in this whole "diminished" WAC thing. If we just go out and beat the living pulp out of every team that we face, the state of Hawaii will rally behind the warriors. Just win and football will be a top shelf product in Hawaii. No matta da conference. Just win.

    BIK


  73. d1島:

    Good responses by Stephen (did the payroll office get your name right?) and Garret to Buffoman's question.


  74. Kazz:

    Stephen Tsai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    UH’s new football offices are pretty amazing. Trouble is you have to pass the old offices, which are not amazing.

    Now if that doesn't represent the STAMP of a State of Hawaii rennovation job, then I dunno what does...

    But did ALL the UH coaches move into the old ones occupied by the football staff?


  75. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Good to see gigi-hawaii here too.

    ST -- #38. So true. Most writers wouldn't have the guts to lay it out like that even if they saw the realities of the situation. That's why The Warrior Beat continues on with a level head--and why it is unique. So, I'm a fan and I'm sticking around watching for the best.


  76. Stephen Tsai:

    Kazz:
    Are there something like 60 BCS teams?
    It's hard to make everybody happy. If the SEC goes off on one those Saint Louis School-like runs, there will be things done to level the playing field. I mean, for all of the millions generated — and spent — when schools complain about the cost and advantages/disadvantages of producing media guides, there are cracks in the infrastructure.


  77. Garret:

    It’s interesting for the WAC (and MWC) that the money-maker is a BCS bowl. But for BCS conferences, because they already are guaranteed BCS bowl money, their growth comes from TV revenue.
    Anybody else think the bubble has to burst sometime?

    ST,

    This is not correct. The MWC makes *far* more money from their TV deal than they make when their teams make a BCS bowl. ESPN offered the MWC far more money than they offered the WAC in the last round and you know they will be determined to outbid everyone for the MWC when their TV contract is up. That would eliminate the late night time slot for the WAC...

    Becoming a BCS AQ conference would give the MWC schools somewhere between $700k to $1 million more per year. SDSU gets $10 million from student fees and $1.3 million from TV. When you are talking about Athletic Departments with revenues of $30 million or so, how can an extra $700k be considered the money-maker?


  78. Colomaohana:

    Morning, gang!


  79. Stephen Tsai:

    Some coaches moved, some stayed.
    If I were running the show, I'd move the basketball and volleyball coaches into the Stan Sheriff Center.
    And I definitely would fix up the Koa Anuenue offices, complete with refreshment area and gifts. They always say recruiting is the lifeblood of a program. Well, Koa Anuenue, as the chief fund-raiser, is the lifeblood of the athletic department. AKA is recruiting donors; it should have the best resources and best image.


  80. Pride.:

    Stephen Tsai:

    June 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am
    UH’s new football offices are pretty amazing. Trouble is you have to pass the old offices, which are not amazing.

    I heard that the football office needs a secretary. State can't afford one full-time. I say we allow volunteers. I'm sure Koakane would volunteer to answer phones and take messages for free.


  81. Garret:

    That’s what I’ve been saying all along. Forget getting caught up in this whole “diminished” WAC thing. If we just go out and beat the living pulp out of every team that we face, the state of Hawaii will rally behind the warriors. Just win and football will be a top shelf product in Hawaii. No matta da conference. Just win.

    Bigislandkurt,

    If UH does that, then the MWC will be forced to add UH to get/keep their AQ status. So, not only would the state of Hawaii rally behind UH (bringing more money), the system would basically force UH into a BCS AQ conference. That in turn would get the fans even more excited, especially playing teams like BYU, UNLV, SDSU, and BSU.


  82. Kazz:

    Stephen Tsai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    And each fan should remember, it is about you. Do you really care if UH has nice academic facilities or great training room? I mean, uh, sure. But if you’re a fan, you care that you can get a good affordable and comfortable seat to an entertaining game. While it might be interesting if UH or the WAC has a good TV contract, what you really think is: Can I see every game I want to see on TV? And whether UH is $10 million in debt or $50 million in the hole, if they’re still playing games and the power hasn’t been turned off, then life goes on.

    I think I speak for a few or if not, most of the regulars here when I say that it's a little different from our perspective.

    Some fans can understand that success is built from the top and then trickles down.

    For many of us, it's HARD to sit in the stands or watch a game knowing the infrastructure is shakey at best because ultimately, it effects the longterm stability of the programs we cheer for.

    Sure, on game day all the budget and facility stuff is not taken into consideration but in reality if we cannot do what we can (i.e. join booster clubs etc...) to assist in some fiscal way towards the programs we go to see every season, then there will be nothing to look forward to.

    This causes some unnecessary worry and sleepless nights for some of us, but to us it's all related.


  83. d1島:

    Pride,

    ...and then Koakane could relay those messages using his iPhone! :shock: :twisted: :lol:


  84. Garret:

    I'm going to SMU myself before I go on too much about this and depress people.

    I should add that there are efforts to change things, involving the Legislature, private businesses, and other entities. My wife is getting annoyed with all the time I'm spending on this (especially since nobody is getting paid to work on it), but if one or both of these things actually happen, UH will be in decent shape.


  85. Kazz:

    Stephen Tsai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Some coaches moved, some stayed.
    If I were running the show, I’d move the basketball and volleyball coaches into the Stan Sheriff Center.

    That would free up more space on the 3rd floor and does make a lot of sense in general.

    I mean, isn't Trappaso's office in Les Murakami Stadium? I mean there's that baseball office to the left after you enter the gate.


  86. Stephen Tsai:

    Pride:
    You are correct. There is no full-time secretary. No part-time one, either. Well, unless you count student help.
    And while the new football offices are wonderful, the setup is sort of, uh, unique. The reception area faces the offices. So if you're walking toward the football offices, you see the waiting area, not the reception area.

    Garret:
    You are right. But it's always cool to see you get worked up before I acknowledge your, uh, rightness.


  87. d1島:

    Kazz,

    Local bruddahs (and sistahs) been forever hearing how UH has a "nice little team" from fans of "Big Name U."

    To me, I always think, "next Tuesday you going be back in Bum**** on the mainland; I going be 10 minutes away from the greatest beach in the world."


  88. Stephen Tsai:

    On another note, I'm finally using a "chill mat," which apparently cools a laptop.


  89. Kazz:

    Bum**** Town, USA???

    Oh! Is that on the way between Truth or Consequences, NM and "Parts Unknown"? :lol:


  90. Stephen Tsai:

    d1島:
    You live 10 minutes away from Lanikai?


  91. Stephen Tsai:

    Whoa.
    Did the type just get bigger?


  92. d1島:

    Stephen,

    It can be done! ;-)


  93. d1島:

    Hope that mat comes in handy for keeping spilled beer cold!


  94. Kazz:

    Is Lanikai on Maui?

    I think we (Hawaii) lost the title of best beach in the world 2009 or 2010.


  95. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Tslugger would make a terriffic football tsecretary if KK's busy.


  96. azwarrior22:

    Hey ST,

    I worked on the Koa Anuenue accounts when I was still at UH for the Promotions Dept under Dick Fishback...that was a long, long time ago and those old offices were new back then :-)


  97. Stephen Tsai:

    The one thing I like about WAC/MWC cities is they're pretty easy to navigate, even though I'm GPS-challenged.
    Salt Lake City is perhaps the most amazing. it's built on a grid, with streets like 100 South, 200 South.


  98. d1島:

    the best beach is the one I can get to on my day off...


  99. Stephen Tsai:

    azwarrior
    Ah, Fishback.
    He was the guy who got me the job at The Advertiser.


  100. (Jesse) James:

    Good morning Tsaikos...hope all have a great day...

    Prayers for Kent and the rest of the Kafentzis family...

    Wow!! Gigi is back....


  101. d1島:

    it helps when you can plop a city down in a desert....


  102. d1島:

    btw, don't put away your umbrellas just yet.


  103. Kazz:

    The best beach is the one closest to the parking lot. :lol:


  104. (Jesse) James:

    d1 #83....Aiyahhh...then we would all be in trouble... WMAHAHAHAHAHA


  105. homey ︻╦╤─:

    Never mind the beach, as long as get good waves to ride (non-murky ocean).


  106. gigi-hawaii:

    Gee, I haven't been to the beach since 2000. When I was single, I used to go every weekend.


  107. madeinhawaii:

    North Texas turned the WAC down in 2004 because their overall situation back then didn't warrant the move. But now with their new bigger and better stadium to be completed soon and their increased student activity fees (Dig this: The student body (30,000) voted to raise their own activity fee to the maximum $20 per credit allowed.) they may be primed to make a move.


  108. Stephen Tsai:

    If our bloggers took over UH . . .
    • Athletic director — Stretch.
    • Associate AD — Garret.
    • Associate AD — Rob25
    • Accounting — Jason.
    • Sports information — SteveM
    • Na Koa — Slugger
    • Koa Anuenue — Pomai
    • Travel — PowderPuff
    • Softball stadium — Kazz
    • Arena — Chawan Cut
    • Letterwinner's Club — Pride
    • Marketing — A-Joe


  109. Stephen Tsai:

    I don't like to go to the beach. Greenpeace keeps waking me up.


  110. Kazz:

    Stephen Tsai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    If our bloggers took over UH . . .
    • Athletic director — Stretch.
    • Associate AD — Garret.
    • Associate AD — Rob25
    • Accounting — Jason.
    • Sports information — SteveM
    • Na Koa — Slugger
    • Koa Anuenue — Pomai
    • Travel — PowderPuff
    • Softball stadium — Kazz
    • Arena — Chawan Cut
    • Letterwinner’s Club — Pride
    • Marketing — A-Joe

    I'm gonna to take a nap and have a nice dream now. :mrgreen:


  111. gigi-hawaii:

    What's happened to Stretch and A-Joe? Do they still comment here?


  112. Kazz:

    Funny story about greenpeace.. Well not really them but this local organization that helps keep people away from Monk Seals that come up on shore.

    A friend told me that while they were camping last year, a Hawaiian Monk Seal came up and was lounging around on the sand. Within a few minutes a group of volunteers set up a barrier around it and a sign was posted.

    The sign said there were two basic rules about approaching resting Hawaiian Monk Seals:

    1) Don't go near the seal.
    2) Don't poke the seal.

    .... Now... doesn't rule one take care of rule two?

    Unless someone fashions a long "poking" device out of chopsticks? :lol:


  113. gigi-hawaii:

    ST:

    You would never get lost in Tokyo if you caught the cab -- every taxi has a GPS. Not so in Hong Kong.


  114. Kazz:

    #110.

    I meant, "Im gonna take a nap..."

    Sans "to".


  115. gigi-hawaii:

    gotcha, Kazz!


  116. papajoe2:

    I could live with the WAC staying with the same 8 teams. But should even 1 of the WAC teams leave for greener pastures or even fold because of financial difficulties, I would prefer Hawaii going independent. Yes, I know that it would be hard to schedule teams, but by adding Portland State, Cal Davis, etc., nothing that has been said has convinced me to do back flips in joy. By going indep. we could add more home games to make more money, even if we may have to supplement some of the costs for teams coming here. Who said that we have to schedule 13 football games a year. If it works out, fine, but thinking of the STUDENT first, by being in Hawaii, maybe it would be alright to have just 12 (8 home, 4 away or 9 home 3 away) games, with all the missed classes and studies. We may already be taking steps toward that direction or maybe even making sure our future games are at least partially covered by talking with Navy for home and home games in football in the future. Is Army and Notre Dame next? We already played or will play them. If the WAC folds, the remaining teams may be forced to be independent too or even some of them folding their football team thus freeing up more independent teams. With other lesser income sports, including women's sports, maybe Hawaii should look into a conference like the WCC, Big West, etc.. The WAC's caliber in women's volleyball (money maker) and softball (future money maker) seem to bring the wahine to a lower level. The WCC men's basketball teams are very competitive and are probably making big bucks with their appearances in the NCAA tournament. Does anybody even want us? Hopefully, yes, if we start winning.


  117. Stephen Tsai:

    Everything is pretty much the same, Gigi.


  118. SteveM:

    Sports Information... does that mean I can travel with the team to the mainland and use the elevator at Aloha Stadium? ooops, I'm sounding like a fan. Cool. :cool: I always wanted to be a fantasy writer....and I can use a mic for more than karaoke. :razz:

    ...or maybe I can do the karaoke if I don't want to answer reporter questions. :evil:


  119. al:

    the show must go on...tomw at noon. maple garden on isenberg st.

    cc list

    wdoc
    homey
    sj & myki
    pomai
    jason
    d1
    hiflyer
    j/j – ???
    stevem ???
    st
    slugger
    ahouse – maybe?
    watch godifu +2 – iffy
    ralph – if can find parking
    a newscaster may also partake - ???

    small parking lot. but if lucky, little richard will park your car for you. not sure how far away.


  120. Stephen Tsai:

    I can understand Boise State wanting to leave because of geography.
    But what I don't understand is how a school can lobby so hard to get into a league, and then want to jump to another. It's like: why ask a girl to a prom if you really want to go with someone else?


  121. papajoe2:

    #ST #108. no can. we going lose money with all the free tickets they would be giving away. wait...., we might make more money with all the booze and fuud they going sell.


  122. Kazz:

    papajoe2,

    The Rainbow Wahine volleyball team has shown season in and season out that they could hang with the best in the nation and recently the Wahine softballers did the same.

    While the softball team doesn't share the exact same consistent streak of WAC titles as the volleyball ladies do, they (softball) have the potential to be the new Fresno State of WAC softball.

    For both programs, no can help who we must play every season in conference play. It's disappointing that WAC women's volleyball is almost non-existant.


  123. Pomai:

    • Koa Anuenue — Pomai

    Will I have to look for my own pay as did another tsaiko did?


  124. Kazz:

    Stephen Tsai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    I can understand Boise State wanting to leave because of geography.
    But what I don’t understand is how a school can lobby so hard to get into a league, and then want to jump to another. It’s like: why ask a girl to a prom if you really want to go with someone else?

    Let me answer this question.

    You ask your 'second option' because you don't wanna be left at home. You go and ask out 2nd choice to spite the rejection from 1st. :lol:

    THEN you regret the day after. :shock:

    Ah high school, good times... :cool:


  125. Kazz:

    Pomai:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    • Koa Anuenue — Pomai

    Will I have to look for my own pay as did another tsaiko did?

    No worry. We going sell Huli Huli Chicken.


  126. Kazz:

    In short Boise State got into the WAC to bust a ... (nevermind)


  127. Pomai:

    Oh lord, gramps as the secretary I can hear it now "HELLOOOOOOOO HOWWWWWW YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"


  128. al:

    st...i am glad you have a chill mat. they say that guys who literally put their laptop directly on their laps without such devises are prone to being more sterile than those who use a chilling device.

    something about the heat cooks the stuff.


  129. Pomai:

    Kazz sounds good to me, but da only problem is I think da guys going eat more den they sell>>>>>>>>>>>


  130. Kazz:

    SteveM:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Sports Information… does that mean I can travel with the team to the mainland and use the elevator at Aloha Stadium?

    Not sure, but it does mean that when a coach asks you to update certain information for their program you should do it asap.

    Just throwing that out there.... :mad:


  131. Kazz:

    What happened to that laptop/notebook thing that was so thin you could fit it into a manila envelope?


  132. homey ︻╦╤─:

    Stepahnie Lum might be there for lunch?


  133. A-joe:

    gigi!

    Welcome back!

    You're like a long lost familiar warm hug!

    Missed you! =)


  134. Kazz:

    homey ︻╦╤─:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Stepahnie Lum might be there for lunch?

    I think they invited Holly Jucsen.

    D1, you going be there? :lol:


  135. al:

    homey....clarification a sportscaster. sorry...didn't mean to heat up your laptop.


  136. Kazz:

    A-Joe,

    Momi Cazimero says "hello". :cool:


  137. al:

    okay we got two tables of ten right now and i am looking at twenty folks who said yes and a handful of maybe's plus you never know if ahouse will make his first cc or not.

    based upon past history we probably still got seats for five more. but, let me know if you do so i can hold a third table.

    reservations are under, "al". one day i'll explain to richard what a tsaiko is.

    btw...nyuh. lemme know your schedule perhaps we can still get together before you leave.


  138. al:

    gee...now that we are one family. maybe dave reardon would join us???


  139. al:

    we looking at about $14 bucks a head with buffet, tax, and tip inclusive.
    beverages on your own aside from the water and hot tea.


  140. homey ︻╦╤─:

    Sportscaster? In that case, no big deal then.

    Is there going to be a buffet?


  141. WATCH GODGIFU:

    Welcome back GIGI!

    Gigi - you asked about Stretch. Saw Stretch last night when I was going to a photo club meeting. He and his Mom, Stretchette and one other was going to a wine tasting(?) at KCC. He was instrumental in setting up the Tsaiko fund with UHF and donated a bunch of change to start it up. Unfortunately he cannot make the CC tomorrow as he commutes to work to Kauai. He was wearing his UH and is still active behind the scenes helping UH.

    A-JOE = still posts from time to time. Have not seen him lately at the CCs but again, I don't attend too often either.


  142. homey ︻╦╤─:

    A-House had been to a cc.


  143. MichiganWarrior:

    Echoing Kazz #82

    It's all relative. The academic facilities, training facilities, lockers, weight room... these are selling points to get the recruits we want PLUS help to maintain their physical and intellectual edge.
    That good TV contract nets us more funds at the end of each season, thus allowing us to up our competitive bar higher and higher each year, and not grow stagnant and complacent. We can't afford to allow our University to fall THAT deeply into debt, otherwise everything would be shut down, not just athletics. We have to put forth the effort to improve our Cash Cow(s), to realize consistently greater gains. If you starve Lani Moo... do you still think you'll get milk from her? Everyone drinks from that container of milk... not just the athletes.


  144. Stretch:

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    WHOA.... gigi is back.


  145. WATCH GODGIFU:

    AL: Waiting to hear from my friend(s) to see if they can join me at the CC tomorrow. He has to move a previous commitment around as he is curious about the Tsaikos - of course that may turn him off forever :-)


  146. Kazz:

    al:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:57 am

    gee…now that we are one family. maybe dave reardon would join us???

    Al,

    A blog "jump in" of sorts yeah? :lol:


  147. Kazz:

    Colin Cowherd is comparing soccer to rice. Rice... as in grains of rice.

    This guy needs a baseball bat to the face.


  148. MichiganWarrior:

    Just like doting parents... we are fans who only want the best for our UH. That's why we are always dreaming the "What if's".


  149. SteveM:

    al:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:57 am
    gee…now that we are one family. maybe dave reardon would join us???

    Which reminds me... Dennis, the night cook at Genji's told me that the bartender knows Dave Reardon well. Dennis said he was told "we are all Tsai-ko's here". :) Don't know what to make of this except for the obvious Tsai-ko connection.


  150. Kazz:

    Dey u go MichiganWarrior.

    dey u go.


  151. WATCH GODGIFU:

    KAZZ (#131) My Lenovo is 9.5" x 7" x 1" Weighs a tad less than 3 pounds. I use it when I travel. Good for e-mail, surfing the web, d/l my camera (it has two or so USB ports.) Forgot what the HD volume is but it has a full program of MS Office, Photoshop elements, MS Windows7 and a bit of room for whatever etc.


  152. gigi-hawaii:

    HI, GUYS! Long time no see.

    Watch Godgifu -- I am racking my brain, but don't remember your nick before I left almost 2 years ago. Did you have another nick before? Have we met? Sorry if I seem rude!


  153. Kazz:

    GIGI,

    While you were out, Stretch and A-Joe have been terrorizing visiting men's volleyball teams.


  154. homey ︻╦╤─:

    #149 And you want to make SteveM the Sports Information person. pffft. :roll:


  155. wafan:

    al . . .

    M/M A-House went to a cc in Aiea at the Korean buffet last year. Must have been in December.


  156. gigi-hawaii:

    Kazz, why am I not surprised? haha


  157. (Jesse) James:

    Didn't A-House go to at least one CC...at Makino's at Aloha Tower...


  158. WATCH GODGIFU:

    GIGI (#152) Watch Godgifu is a nom de guerre. Trying to see if AL can figure it out!


  159. gigi-hawaii:

    Hey, I flunked 3rd year French.

    nom de guerre = name of war???


  160. (Jesse) James:

    Kazz...what kind?? Easton?? LMAO


  161. SteveM:

    RE: #154
    <b<homey -- I dunno, and you may quote me. No forget I can sing badly too!


  162. jm2375:

    Kazz - #94 - that's cuz he ran out of Hawaii beaches! Once a beach is top-ranked, it's retired from the list. I'll take any Hawaii beach over any South Florida beach.


  163. A-House:

    Kazz:

    Hawaii lost the "best beach" in the world because Hawaii cannot be considered for that award 2 years in a row according to the people who "rate" best beaches - "those are the rules, Mr. Garret" ( from the TV series, The First Olympics ).


  164. A-House:

    Most hearty best wishes for a speedy and full recovery to Kent Kafentzis!


  165. how can i make 1000g a hour on wow:

    Aw, this was a really quality post. In theory I'd like to write like this too - taking time and real effort to make a good article... but what can I say... I procrastinate alot and never seem to get something done.


  166. A-House:

    Pride:

    Leaving messages on the UHAD voice mail in totally "kaput".

    I called coaches and left messages, but no return call to date. Do they not get the messages? What if a caller wants to give a large donation to a program and encounters this situation? Would you still want to give your $$$ to this institution?

    Another thing that bites my ass about donating to UH-Manoa is that you get so many "different" responses from different individuals about how it supposed to work. Why can't they gather and come up with a single reponse regarding donations!!!!!


  167. homey ︻╦╤─:

    #161 - And you have to brush up on your HTML.

    We will always have the best beaches...and surf...and bikini-clad women.


  168. Slugger:

    Al,

    I'll be at lunch. You might want to have people reconfirm since NYUH won't be there, not that we don't want to see your bright & shiny person, too.

    Looks like a CC next week would have to be on Mon. or Tues. since NYUH leaves on Wed., 7/7. Is that right, NYUH?

    wafan,

    When do you get into town?


  169. jm2375:

    Gramps answering phones and taking messages? Do you actually want people to get their messages (correctly)? bwahahahahaha! j/k KK.


  170. Old School Dave:

    Saw the Utah State has UH for its homecoming game on October 23. Last year they arrived in HNL the day before the game. HC Gary Anderson said that the Hawaii game would be like any other game and got badly beaten at Aloha.

    Crazy idea, but what about building a 45K stadium (along the lines of Utah's Rice Eccles) in the lower campus with bleacher style seating, (oh, my aching okole from the termite palace days), throughout, except in the premium sections? Would cut construction and maintenance costs. Also, UH needs to build luxury boxes as a means of generating more profits for the program. Funding would have to come from big shot donors and aggressive fund raising targeting the private sector.

    http://www.stadium.utah.edu/index2.html
    http://stadium.gophersports.com/


  171. A-House:

    OK, al, this is WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We have been to many Tsaiko cc/s, but we seldom see you there!!!!!!!!!!!!


  172. al:

    shhh. i have solved the #158 mystery. but, i don't want to be the spoiler.

    w-g, will you be walking to maple garden?


  173. Slugger:

    A-House,

    #166 ~ If you want to make a donation:

    https://www.uhf.hawaii.edu/give/index.aspx?SITE=UHF

    You might have more luck sending an email. Go to the main UH site and click on the directory link on the top right of the page:

    http://www.hawaii.edu/dir/index.php?tmpl=manoa&campus=uhm


  174. al:

    ahouse...
    war?
    what is it good for?
    absolutely nothing.

    ...jackie chan and chris tucker, rush hour.


  175. al:

    you did notice ahouse...that i usually miss the night time activities.


  176. madeinhawaii:

    Old School Dave,

    We've discussed the issue of a new stadium many times and quite frankly, no other area can address the traffic situation better than the current location. With the Rail plan in the works, Aiea/Halawa still provides the best scenario for a centralized locale with doable access and egress. There is ample room to build upwards and two strip malls in the area that could easily be redeveloped to build an exceptional Sports Multiplex/retail rail stop center.

    The Stadium has to be more than a single sport facility. It has to be able to serve a multitude of purposes to be cost effective and provide some kind of return of investment.


  177. jm2375:

    If the sportscaster is our usual Tsaiko sportscaster, I hope Maple Garden has enough fuuuuud!!

    ST - #109 - is that why you didn't show up on Sunday? j/k


  178. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    gigi-

    The biggest change here is that one of the posters now carries a gun on the blog... keeps it right next to himself at all times.


  179. Kazz:

    (Jesse) James:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Kazz…what kind?? Easton?? LMAO

    Nope. Easton bats are too good for Cowherd's face. It would be a crime to use a perfectly good Easton Stealth SSR1 on him.

    A good ole fashioned wooden bat would suffice.


  180. homey ︻╦╤─:

    No need bat. Just throw you and Cowherd in the octagon and scrap in there till one taps out.


  181. koakane iphone4:

    Eh answering phone easy cause I can do

    "This is Keith leave a message"


  182. homey ︻╦╤─:

    ...or gets ko'd or put to sleep.


  183. al:

    and so the dow jones falls below the 10k mark.


  184. Not an Expert:

    What do you think Garret?

    Hawaii needs to align itself with Fresno and Nevada to earn entry in the MWC. Sell the potential of a 12 team league with 2 divisions. Western Division UNLV, SDSU, BSU, FSU, NEVADA, UH. Eastern Division CSU, WYO, AF, BYU, TCU, NM.

    The 3 universities to work on a package seeking entry with less share of the pie initially. UH to subsidize part of the travel cost. UNLV and the Boyd Group to help to get them in. Rivalries are there and could be bigger and better as time goes on. If these 3 universities are about equal in their position today they should create an alliance and work together for entry. The other schools have not done anything to bring the WAC up and has held the overall conference back to a great degree. The eastern division of the MWC would surely not mind playing in Hawaii once every 4 years. Meaning cross conference games with 3 schools rotating.

    Positives will be a championship game in football, and others if they so choose to do so.

    There was a suggestion before somewhat like this and I believe this would be an avenue to explore.


  185. Old School Dave:

    #176 Madeinhawaii:

    Sorry, didn't mean beat an old horse.

    You bring up some good and valid points regarding the location of the stadium. In terms of providing a return in the investment, I think that Aloha Stadium is currently being underutilized in terms of "other events" there. What other events are held at Aloha, besides the Swap Meet and 50th State Fair (both in the parking lot)? Not sure if those two events are enough to generate enough income to maintain the facility. Same for the SSC. But that's a whole different subject.

    For the amount of money being spent to prop up Aloha Stadium, you could conceivably construct a new stadium in the lower campus. Minnesota's TCF Bank stadium cost $288 million. Nothing like that on-campus feel.

    BTW, does anyone know if they are going to paint that section of the Stadium in green?


  186. Buffoman:

    Thanks ST, Garret. Great responses. I think Kazz's #125 summarizes why I ask. I don't want UH to be left at home. IF BSU did what they did to totally assure themselves that they would not be left at home, smart on them to ask (beg) twice (first to the WAC then to MWC).

    I only hope that with BSU gone and the stature of the WAC diminished, even if UH wipes out the competition as stated by others, those will remain significant. And while I believe that time is not on our side, we have no alternative but to win, win big and win often, and maybe, just maybe, the travel to Hawaii won't be such a huge barrier as it appears to be when talks of inclusion into a conference arrises.


  187. koakane iphone4:

    good day tsaiko nation have a fine one

    prayer kafenztis ohana

    my take on the issue of going independant is stay were we at and dominate the WAC. Boise showed the way just look at what happened in just the short time in WAC.

    much to do latter and play nice now especially large person and jamiehu


  188. Garret:

    Rivals preseason ratings:

    65: Nevada
    66: Fresno State
    78: Idaho
    86: UH
    101: La Tech
    103: Utah State
    113: NMSU
    119: SJSU

    Note: There are 120 teams in D-IA...so, every team in the WAC (aside from BSU) was rated in the bottom half, with the bottom 4 in bottom 20 D-IA teams.


  189. Garret:

    BYU scholarship player may be walking on to UH?

    BYU running back-turned-linebacker Malosi Te'o is living back home in Hawaii and it appears he may stay in the islands and not return to the Cougars. Word I get from Provo is that while Te'o has yet to make a final decision, he is considering walking on at the University of Hawaii.


  190. papajoe2:

    #184 NaE, Will it bring down the MWC BCS rating with adding the 3 teams thus not making it BCS eligible? Probably. I like it though. Maybe we can have the same payout as the WAC from the MWC for 2 years then increase by 50% for the following 2 years. This way we gain from attendance and still have a quality conference. Remember though, the pie will be split 12 ways, reducing the current MWC teams' income. Will they go for that? Maybe, for a bigger TV contract.


  191. Garret:

    Buffoman,

    I understood why you asked your question, which is why I took the time to answer it so completely. My answer was probably much longer than needed, but I'm bored with my 12-hour days writing a document (due tomorrow) for work.

    Some programs will be left behind and I share your feeling that we really don't want UH to be in that group.


  192. Garret:

    Not An Expert,

    I've been hoping for a Fresno/Nevada/UH alliance for quite some time, but the system doesn't work that way. The #1 priority for the MWC is to boost their chances to get/keep AQ status. Nevada and Fresno might not hurt their BCS chances much (though the MWC would go *down* by adding them), but UH's record the past 2 years makes it death to the MWC's BCS AQ hopes if they add UH.

    If Fresno/Nevada/UH told the MWC that it was all or nothing, they would turn to Houston and others. Even the threat of that would result in Fresno and Nevada dropping UH from their partnership.


  193. madeinhawaii:

    I really feel that the expansion of the WAC from West to South East is it's future. We may be the lower tier of FBS but that doesn't mean we can't have great games and cultivate fans and a marketable commodity. To do that, the WAC needs to include more geography. Get it's name onto more TV sets at all times of the day in all sports. Build it into a brand name and try to excel in the other regularly televised sports. It's all about packaging and marketing. The bigger your audience the bigger the network $$.


  194. Stephen Tsai:

    The real tragedy would be if, after Boise State departs, UH can't fill the void.


  195. WATCH GODGIFU:

    GIGI (#159) "war name" in French. Actually it means a fictitious name; a pseudonym.


  196. al:

    #194...agree 100%. the golden opportunity, the pot of gold, awaits in 2011. the team that wins the wac in 2011 will have all the impetus towards any future bragging rights, recruits, and the like.


  197. al:

    #195...do you want me to pick you up? i have a friend in that very same building who may also need a ride and she is better looking, too.


  198. madeinhawaii:

    Hmm.. not "potato" oh wait.. that's pomme de terre.. not nom de guerre... ... wow.. did you know that pomme de terre is the name of a Lake in Kansas City and a State park in Missouri... ? How you like them potatos? I suppose 'nom de guerre' cannot be used as a name for any lake or State park because it would confuse too many people.


  199. madeinhawaii:

    al,

    Unless one of them takes Boise down this season, eh? I mean, Boise is coming back virtually intact from last season having to replace only a handful of starters.


  200. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Stephen -

    Your #62 and #194... pure genius. You've done it Tsai, we have the whole story about conference re-alignment and Boise's departure in just two posts. No need for any further discussion on either topic.

    Okay, we can continue discussion, but let it be known that you've already wrapped those burritos.


  201. Buffoman:

    ST:

    If as you say UH does not fill the void, we would have sealed our own fate. There would be no arguing any point for conference membership at the D-1 level. Too many barriers to acceptance would keep us out of any conversation, aside from the WAC, that is, if Mr. Benson is truly an advocate for our inclusion in the conference.

    I cringe at the thought of our going 5-8 this year in football, but as much as I love UH football, if it is not meant to be, then maybe we become like the WCAC where it's venues other than football (yikes!). IT'll probably deplete the department tremendously or completely as the remaining sports simply could not generate enough revenue to keep all floating.

    JUst win, win big, win other and make it habitual. This should help.


  202. madeinhawaii:

    I, too, will be sorely disappointed if Hawaii doesn't make the Bowl game... but this might also be the toughest year to have a winning record within the WAC... Got to win the OoC games.


  203. Garret:

    The WAC says that they will have no expansion until 2012 at the earliest.

    WAC commissioner Karl Benson announced today that the WAC will delay any expansion of its membership until July 1, 2012 at the earliest. This means that for the 2011-12 season, the WAC will operate as an eight-team league that consists of Fresno State, Hawai'i, Idaho, Louisiana Tech, Nevada, New Mexico State, San Jose State and Utah State.

    "The WAC and its eight member schools remain well positioned for the future," said Benson. "Over the past few weeks, the WAC's Board of Directors and athletics directors have explored several membership options. We believe it is in the best interest of the WAC to operate as an eight-team league for the 2011-12 season. We will now take several months to 'drill down' on the various membership options before making any decisions that would impact the 2012-13 season."


  204. Garret:

    I agree with ST--some school will win the WAC after BSU leaves and will earn the BCS points needed to be attractive to the MWC. If that is UH, great. If not, some other school will be happy to fill the void left by BSU.


  205. gigi-hawaii:

    NOM DE PLUME = PSEUDONYM


  206. al:

    mih...i am referring to next year in the wac. if such still exists.


  207. mctruck:

    ST,

    Once upon-a-time I lived right in Lanikai for many years until I uprooted and moved to Texas.

    Looking on the bright side......just one little city in California, like say, L.A., which has a far greater population than the whole state of Hawaii....it makes me shake my head when people say that Hawaii and it's fans have got to step up with,($), if they want UH to become a BCS worthy school????, what?!?!....you can you squeeze blood from a turnip??

    Is it possible to be proud and humble at the same time?....I mean proud to be a fan/player for UH, and yet, humble because we don't have ALL the things that money can buy???, mainly because we don't have that kind of money?, and I say yes....be proud and humble at the same time...just don't let those dreams kill our spirit for what we got.


  208. al:

    if we don't get to the hawaii bowl this year...we'll be looking at a new offense next year.


  209. homey ︻╦╤─:

    ...or new defense.


  210. Dennis halloran:

    Multidivision conference USA or expanded WAC are items for research at this point. Winning FB and protecting the late night ESPN appeal are NOW goals
    If you notice there is a very direct correlation between strength of conference perception and revenue from athletics.
    I love my new IPAD


  211. mctruck:

    Howzit, Gigi.......

    nice to see youza-back.


  212. mctruck:

    Yesterday, I was craving for that ol'hotdog/tomato sauce/pineapple combo which my auntie used to make while I still lived back in Hawaii...so I decided to make me a batch...I thought I'd add shiitake mushrooms along with some diced onions....mmmmmmhhh!!!, broke-da-mouth, delicious!!, over rice that is.

    Were we takin football????, excuse-eh!!

    I threw that in for my friend, Gigi....hehe!!


  213. gigi-hawaii:

    Hi Mctruck!

    How many years is Mack contracted for at UH? Is it 3 years or 5?


  214. Pomai:

    Don't forget to vote for the Na Wahine for the espy award for the best upset of the year, click on my name to go to voting site


  215. madeinhawaii:

    5 years Gigi... This season is Mack's 3rd.. his anniversary would be somewhere in January.. I think...


  216. mctruck:

    Heh, Dennis....

    you got that iphone g4???


  217. mctruck:

    I still wish the WAC could have gotten UNLV and SDU back...it would have made for a better fit overall, although I guess the money was with their sticking with the MWC...just wishing out loud.


  218. madeinhawaii:

    al,

    That's kind of what I fear.. That we will chuck the RnS if we don't succeed with it this year.. at least insofar as getting us to the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl. I like that we have established ourselves as a RnS school these past 12 years. That's how you build a reputation. Just got to get more consistent in recruiting and developing the talent and winning. But that takes finding the right combination of coaches, assitant coaches, grad assistants, and student managers. Each has to come up the ranks and keep the program alive and well.


  219. Your Garden:

    Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com...

    I found your entry interesting do I've added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)...


  220. al:

    mih...methinks you've missed my subliminal message.


  221. madeinhawaii:

    al,

    I think it all points to the same end.


  222. skycap:

    About the Stadium. Here in Hawaii we don't have those big corporation/business that can put money up front to build a New Stadium like they do on the mainland. What we have is alot of Military Personnel. So why not go independent and play in the Armed Forces League. Then maybe the Federal Government will build a New Stadium for the University of Hawaii.
    If Daniel Inouye really wanted to do something for the State building a New Stadium would be nice.


  223. gigi-hawaii:

    I am not a big fan of bench seating at stadiums, even if they are cheaper. I need back support with preferably lots of leg room, too.

    For me, though, nothing can beat a reclining sofa, air conditioning, and a large screen TV.


  224. kama krab:

    Speaking of Inouye,

    Now that he is third in succession maybe we can really get the ball rolling on alot of the states more pressing needs. One of them being upgrading our Manoa campus. I guess you could say, "show me the money".

    Oh and howzit everybody.


  225. kama krab:

    You know now that I think of it,

    Hawaii has alot of power right now with regards to national politics. My thinking is, why don't we make use of it. Somebody call Uncle Barry and Uncle Dan and ask them to give us some ALOHA aka kala.


  226. gigi-hawaii:

    Especially replacing Gartley Hall. The psychology department had to abandon it because it is ready to fall down. Where are the professors now? Scattered all over campus.


  227. haka:

    It is tough times for everyone, but it's an all-in game now. The school, the coaches and the athletes need to make the commitment towards excellence. Most importantly though, the people need to make the commitment and ante up if they want to take UH athletics to a higher level. The fans hold the cards and they can play'em or they can fold'em.


  228. al:

    bench seating???
    i think honolulu stadium was the last stadium built in the nation without backrests.


  229. Pomai:

    kama krab nothing like a $100,000,000.00 stimulus check for the athletic department. LOL


  230. gigi-hawaii:

    Al:

    Somebody suggested building a stadium on lower campus and installing bench seating.


  231. kama krab:

    Al #220

    I think I'm thinking along the same lines as you thus the reason I keep saying, this year is Mack's money year cause if he no when this year then he is a lame duck or maybe even on dead duck.


  232. kama krab:

    Pomai #229,

    That amount would be a good start and maybe we can add on a little bit more each year. LOL


  233. Pomai:

    kama krab if he doesn't win big this year I think it will be his downfall. We need to win and win big for the next two years. Also he needs to pound them all no letting up win and win big.


  234. Dennis halloran:

    Mc, no need for a fancy cell phone. Grankids are all Facebook users so I know LL is going in Wichita and Redondo Beach. At my grandsons LL game tHe other night, a guy had on a Hawaii Rainbow Reyn Spooner shirt on and I Told him it was a classic. He said he gets offers to buy it all the time


  235. kama krab:

    Pomai #233

    No doubt. That's the bottom line. Win and win big. No more excuses about rebuilding this and rebuilding that. We need results now. Not only because we need a winner but because this might be our last chance to make ourselves noticed when the next round of expansion comes around.

    I agree with what Garret has been saying all along, get wins and it will help our BSC points which will force the MWC to come a knocking. You can't get anymore plain and simple as that.


  236. Dennis halloran:

    Scuse typing errors, I'm just getting used to this type of keyboard!
    Watching boats cruise by, watching Bruins score a run, drinking a cold one and talking to Hawaii, ALLGOOD


  237. Dennis halloran:

    Just went across TV that Texas Tech FB coach Tuberville doesn't expect Big 12 to survive because of TV money disparity among league members aka Texas and the eleven dwarfs


  238. madeinhawaii:

    This is a soft schedule coming up but a tough season for our UH Warriors. Part of that was Moniz's absence during spring training. How good really will the offense be? Will they click? Now with new Offensive gurus in charge and a new Oline, can we punch it in where it matters the most, in the red zone?

    Will our offense be good enough to keep us in the game and win?

    Will our defense be good enough to keep us in the game? Can we stop the run? Can we penetrate without rushing? Will our Corners be able to prevent those tall receivers from using their height advantage in the red zone?

    Will our kickers be consistent enough to pin the other side back and to get us critical points?
    If we have a winning season, will all our coaches be back for the next season?


  239. Kazz:

    Amber Kaufman on ESPN 1420 in a few minutes.


  240. Kazz:

    LET'S GO GAMECOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DESTROY UCLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  241. kama krab:

    MIH #238,

    That is the point. To much unknowns to even be comfortable saying we will have a winning season. To much if this happens if that happens. We need some kind of assurance that we will have a good product on the feild this year, thus the reason why we are so unsure whether we will be looking for a new coach next year.

    Just to much unknowns (saying this while shaking my head).


  242. Kazz:

    CRAP!!! Kaufman pulling an "ST" and is not calling in to the Sports Animals!!!!!!!! :lol:


  243. madeinhawaii:

    al,

    http://content.lib.utah.edu/cgi-bin/showfile.exe?CISOROOT=/uuathletics&CISOPTR=1774&filename=1757.pdf

    From SH forum... remember Yasuo Yorita from McKinley High? I was on the track team at the same time as he was. I didn't even know he played football for UH..

    Imagine.. the current Stadium was signed off by Burns way back in 1973... almost 40 years ago. Not much has changed since Governor Burns... Sadly.. so sadly.. not much has changed since..


  244. Kazz:

    The next explosion anyone hears is Chawan blowing something up in frustration.


  245. homey ︻╦╤─:

    Mililani Stadium has bench seating.


  246. madeinhawaii:

    That link above #243 is from an old Utah vs Hawaii program. Check out the names of the players that year... "The Green Machine" as the team was known... Don Wier was on the team then, too.


  247. Last Call:

    Kaufman didn't jump at the USA Nationals last weekend wonder what happened.


  248. chawan_cut:

    kazz,
    hey now...
    and i'm not worthy of being even considered for the arena. rich does a great job there.


  249. Kazz:

    Chawan,

    Well, then you should have no problem keeping him on staff then right? :wink:


  250. Last Call:

    Coach Coolen tweeted today.

    "On the road now since May 10th...checking out 3 major tournaments in Colorado...been home 3 days...recruiting going well!" "Remember to vote!"


  251. Body Workout 101:

    Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com...

    I found your entry interesting do I've added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)...


  252. Last Call:

    Amber finally arrives !


  253. Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com | directoryofboise:

    [...] Continue reading here: Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com [...]


  254. Last Call:

    Amber can dunk ?


  255. Kazz:

    Last Call,

    SOME Amber Kaufman FACTS:

    -She's the life of the party. Even the ones she's never attended.

    -If she punches you in the face, you must fight off the urge to thank her.


  256. Kazz:

    Wow. I didn't think that softball's twitter was updated.


  257. gigi-hawaii:

    Hmmm. Why does this blog get so much spam? Isn't there a spam filter like Akismet, which WordPress uses on my blog? It is really quite effective!


  258. Last Call:

    Amber has a tattoo inside her lower lip . I've never seen it but Tara Hittle says it's interesting.


  259. gigi-hawaii:

    Homey, what does that drawing next to your name represent? Looks like a car to me.


  260. gigi-hawaii:

    ...or an anteater


  261. wafan:

    GG . . .

    It represents his weapon.


  262. gigi-hawaii:

    wafan:

    Is THAT what DPK meant? He said some blogger was carrying a gun with him at all times. That's Homey?


  263. Slugger:

    mih,

    Thanks for a look at the FB program.


  264. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Gigi-

    Surely you know by now what a dangerous guy homey is. That "thing" next to his name is either a very vicious attack dog or a gun, so watch your step around homey.


  265. gigi-hawaii:

    DPK,

    Sorry I gotta laugh! haha. Does he still wear a paper bag over his head at blog get-togethers?


  266. wafan:

    GG . . .

    Watch for the 8/7 bash announcement. You can find out about Homey then. HA!


  267. gigi-hawaii:

    8/7 is a Saturday. What's the occasion?


  268. Slugger:

    Sorry, wafan & Gigi,

    The 8/7 event is cancelled. Don't know if (J)J posted anything.

    homey's come out of hiding.


  269. gigi-hawaii:

    Slugger,

    That's too bad. You know me, I love to party!

    I guess you're right about Homey. I remember he didn't wear a bag over his head at the tailgate I went to.


  270. wafan:

    Too bad about the 8/7 cancelation. Perhaps a new date and location will be worked out.


  271. wafan:

    Too bad about the 8/7 cancelation. Perhaps a new date and location will be worked out.


  272. wafan:

    HA! How did that double post?


  273. wafan:

    Just a few more things to pick up tomorrow then the packing begins. Whoo-hoo!!!

    Nytal!


  274. A-House:

    Coach Mack:

    Will be entering his 3rd season in 2010; has recruited, alibit a compressed one his first year, 3 classes; his first class is only now entering the playing field; 2nd class is now entering their "red-shirt" freshman year; 3rd class in still -----, well still---? and, throw in the transfers and still---?

    Can we really say that this year, 2010, his 3rd year is really the $$$ year? That would be really tough. I would say 5th year is the $$$ year because all 3 recruiting class will be on the field including, probably, a few true freshmen and red-shirt freshmen.

    ??? will the powers to be look at this this way or say, "he had 3 years" and fire him if 2010 is a bust. In reality, the juniors and seniors on the field in 2010 were recruited by JJ the year BEFORE" he bolted for SMU. IMHO, this is still JJ's players and I know others will disagree with me as Coach Mack had a hand in recruiting before JJ left.

    Yet, the old axiom, the leader is responsible for all things - good or bad. If Coach Mack is unable to "meld" the units into a cohesive team, then the question is is Coach Mack HC material? Perhaps, this will be the pivatol factor IF JD decides to terminate the 5-year contract after year #3.

    If so, then the new HC will be faced with the same situation of the first 3-years will be players recruited by the prior coach. If this new coach "bombs", then what?

    A contrarium(sp) situation is men's basketball where Coach Gib will have some of his recruits on the floor in 2010, year #1, and nearly or all his recruits on the floor by his 2nd year. Then, I will agree that after 3 years and the team does not win, then it's time to consider hiring a new coach.


  275. al:

    mih...yup. yas was a starter at uh. i believe he started out at wr and ended up a safety. he's at mpi these days. his brother is a good friend of mine. who also played safety at linfield.


  276. al:

    ahouse...shall i bring the deck of cards tomw???


  277. Ralph:

    bring the ouija board too!


  278. Ralph:

    A House the recruits are JJ staff recruits, including Mac, they run the R N S, same offense without JJ calling the plays, Ron Lee served a year as O.C., Rolo played in the R N S, the players were recruited with the R N S in mind, so why does Mac get a pass to year 5. So can anyone coming tomorrow be able to read the cards and ouija board?


  279. al:

    ahouse...how patient will the university be?
    what with all this realignment talk, it is imperative above all else to win. winning places you in a position to negotiate, a position to dictate reason, and a position to make choices.

    should we go south of .500 again with not much hope on the horizon...how long should they wait?

    not to mention the drop in revenues from your cash cow affecting other programs as well as the future prospects of where your program will be.

    if we are left out in the cold, meaning the wac while others start to matriculate to mwc, c-usa, and any other new conferences where you are a step away from more $$$$. how long does the university wait?

    jd is a businessman and a former football guy. i know he has a feel for what we need and if that isn't happening then jd has to do the right thing. mind you that mack is not jd's hire so there won't be so much sentiment.

    win and he is in. 6-7 or less would be precarious for the coach given these austere times of college football.


  280. al:

    ralph...you can play "war" with a ouija board?


  281. Addahknowsports©:

    Thank you for fixing the blog! So much easier to read now.

    Good evening Tsaikos and Tsaikettes.

    Welcome back Gigi!


  282. gigi-hawaii:

    Hi, Sports! How are you?

    Al, can UH afford to pay Mack the remaining 2 years of his contract if they let him go after the 3rd year? Plus pay the next coach big bucks? I thought JD wanted to lessen the deficit, not increase it.


  283. Garret:

    The Pac-10's commissioner is still hoping that Texas will join their conference.

    So could he surmise a scenario in the near future where Texas and others might still end up in the Pac-10?

    "I'm an eternal optimist," he said. "I would never say never. But people have moved on for now. I think Texas is happy where they've moved on, and we're happy."


  284. madeinhawaii:

    I'd say no matter what, Mack will play out 4 years. If he gets us to a bowl game this year or next, he gets his 5th year. If he gets us to a bowl game in his 4th year with an impressive win/loss record, he gets an extra year... get us to two bowl games in the next three years and he gets a roll over. Win the WAC and he gets a bonus and negotiating powers.


  285. Ralph:

    Hinshaw did the right thing, she moved things along, removed the bureaucracy to hire a new coach, she listened to the movers and shakers of Hawaii politics, the former staff, and she went with their recommendation, hire MacMakin and she pushed it. I don't fault her, some bloggers are claiming in these bad times that coach Mac is her hire, technically, yes, but she made a difference on how things are being done at UH and she should be commended for her proactive stance. Who would have thought that Mac would be over his head as a HC, like he said, "this isn't P.E. football," and now for two seasons people are asking the same questions, whose making the calls during game time, watching the clock and calling time outs, etc.


  286. Ralph:

    Al is there a buffet menu for Maple Garden, I found the regular ala carte menu.


  287. A-House:

    al & Ralph:

    If UH is left behind, its because we are 2500 miles out in the Pacific; Travel expenses and time away from school will be the "excuses" used by the others who will not invite UH to the round table. Yet, has anyone made a survey on length of travel and time away from classes versus traveling to other destinations such as Wyoming. There is a lot of down time waiting for connecting planes and bus rides to no where.

    yes, wins may turn the tide, but is that a guarantee? i don't think so!

    Na Wahine does it very year as does the VB team, but the men's teams seem to have trouble adjusting to time changes and elevation. is this a women's thing? are they more adapable? are men "weaker" in this area?


  288. Ralph:

    after this season, if we finish with a 7-6 record and make the Sheraton Bowl, I am hoping that JD doesn't get giddy and overly anxious to roll over Mac contract. Cuz his overall record would be 20-20 and the bowl game would be the tie breaker, a winning record or a losing record. Can we do better that 7-6, I would hope so but every publication think otherwise. Like AJoe says, no matter what they think, we going strap it up and play to win.


  289. Garret:

    Ralph,

    I thought that Mack was a reasonable hiring choice at the time. However, I remember thinking (and posting) two concerns back then:

    1. UH didn't include a buyout clause, something that is standard in D-IA head football coaching contracts. UH didn't protect themselves which didn't make sense to me. Even if UH won the WAC the past two seasons I would still be bothered about that...because it set a precedent that I thought was bad.

    2. UH overpaid. I know that ST says that Mack's agent asked for $1.1 million, but UH didn't have to just give Mack was his agent first asked for. UH is always budget-constrained and paying *far* above the market rate back then hurts UH. Offering what JJ earned ($800k) with $300k in incentives (for example $100k for winning the WAC, $100k for making the Hawaii Bowl, other incentives tied to attendance figures) would have made sense.

    Or UH should have convinced Mack that his long-term success would have been better served by taking $100k less if that entire $100k would be applied to increasing the recruiting budget. There are a lot of ways in which UH could significantly upgrade the program (recruiting budget, compliance officer, training facilities, etc.) with money...UH cannot afford to overspend.


  290. Kazz:

    Last Call:
    June 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Amber has a tattoo inside her lower lip . I’ve never seen it but Tara Hittle says it’s interesting.

    You have my attention. :cool:


  291. Ralph:

    A House if a team is good they normally will win on the road and at home. Na Wahine in VB and SB are cases in point. Look at all the good teams that have beaten us at the Stadium, winning is not guaranteed, but they have won quite often. Could we have beaten some of them, sure, but we didn't and they were on the road, favored, and won. So were got to be a better ball club to win on the road, mediocrity leads to more defeats than wins.


  292. Kazz:

    Personally speaking, UH CANNOT afford to retain a football head coach that would have 3 losing seasons with no promise of better ones in the following two.

    Should it all go to heck after this football season then Jim Donovan will have ANOTHER difficult choice to look at.

    The public demand and threat of losing season ticket holders for football will be greater than for baseball and for basketball. Business-wise, the choice should be easier.

    A lot of money was spent on those football offices and again, if it all goes to heck after this season, you will need to supply substance to those offices.


  293. Matt:

    A-House,

    IMHO, Mack has to win this year. Not only are do we have to win with regards to alignment, but we are running the same system on both offense and defense since before Mack was the head coach. This means that there should have been less of a learning curve.

    Mack had a hand in recruiting the vast majority of the players on the defensive side since he was here for the 2007 season while JJ was the head coach. Mack also recruited a bunch of JC recruits in his first two years; many of which are seniors this year and are expected to contribute substantially (Davis, Bradley, Hopkins, Heun, Blount, Bryant, Enos, Green, Dimude, LaCount, Henry, etc.).

    After a quick glance, at least half of the seniors on the team came here during Mack's tenure. I also believe more than 2/3 of the scholarship players are Mack's recruits or walk-ons that Mack gave a scholarship to. This is the payoff year.


  294. Kazz:

    I'm sorry but I'll stand up right now and say it. If we cannot make a Hawaii Bowl this season and win that too then we need a new football coach and send the ultimate message across the board.

    This is NOT just for the survival of the UH Football program, but ALL and I repeat A-L-L of UH athletics involved.

    Again, we do NOT need to be reminded that the smaller income and non income generating sports have carried their weight in the same years that UH football has struggled in the last two and as a supporter of all of UH athletics I cannot stomach the fate of hunderds of UH student athletes at the hands of someone not capable and getting paid a hefty salary.

    But of course if we win, go to the Hawaii Bowl and win that game as well, then different story.


  295. Garret:

    One problem for UH earning enough BCS points is that you don't earn many points with the computer rankings if you play bad teams. The WAC's nonconference record has been horrible, which hurts UH. Nevada and Fresno tried to play good teams and couldn't pull out the nonconference wins that the WAC needed. The bottom of the WAC schedule paycheck games that help their bottom line but hurt their computer ratings, which hurts the WAC's computer rating.

    I'll use the Massey ratings (one of the BCS computer rakings) to give an idea of where some teams that UH has scheduled ranked last year:

    71 UNLV (this would have been much lower if UH had pulled off the win)
    85 Colorado
    87 Utah State
    90 La Tech
    105 Army
    107 SJSU
    117 NMSU


  296. Kazz:

    Wahine Volleyball's constant success and ability to challenge some of the better funded teams that just got into women's volleyball within the last decade is a testament to the foundation built by Dave Shoji, past assistants, and past players.

    The appeal and the true tradition already built into the program and the home game atmosphere in the arena when the Wahine are playing is the SAME exact "feel" we all see when we are watching Penn State football or Duke Basketball.

    The foundation was there.

    When Wahine Volleyball was winning national titles in the 80's and whatnot, the BCS schools didn't join in until years and decades later, so UH was able to do what they did, thus securing the foundation and tradition we enjoy to this day that helps bring fans out and good recruits to the program.


  297. kama krab:

    Sorry to be such a downer,

    But in the grand scheme of things nobody really cares about anything but football. Football is the thing that makes an athletic department go. Plain and simple.

    If people cared about anything else, UH would be in a much better place then they see themselves in right now. Win and win big is the only answer.


  298. Ralph:

    Garret #1 Hinshaw took the recommendation of her peers, she oversees the UHAD and its AD as Chancellor, but she was new on the job and wanted to make changes on how things were done at the UH. To her fault, she trusted the advise from her peers, the people surrounding the UH athletic department, and made the call. UH has an inhouse lawyer for contracts, was she proactive (the lawyer-it was a female after Kirimitsu left for St. Louis), there had to someone in the AD office or close to UHAD who could have jumped in brought up talking points. On #2 everyone surrounding UH athletics including the fans stated that UH got to dig dipper in their pocketbook and not let manini money be the sole reason we can't get a good coach. Hinshaw came up with the money, the plundits pointed to Mac, he is the man, no one said he wasn't a million dollar man, only in hindsight with a mediocre record that we blink and second guess ourselves and think, oops, we paid too much. (I know, lots of commas, so Wassup, don't send me corrections and a grade) It wasn't then, it (contract) was heralded as a break through in upping the payroll for coaches even when we couldn't afford it.


  299. Kazz:

    Ralph,

    You are right. Many people were concerned about Coach Mack's pricetag and didn't necessarily point out that he may have been over his head in a head coaching position.

    Seems like if Coach Mack was getting paid somewhere around the 500K to 700K mark that they would have been more accepting of him if he produced the 7-7 and 6-7 season results as opposed to him getting paid over a million. Of course this is contradictory to "winning is everything".


  300. Ralph:

    dipper=deeper minus one point


  301. Garret:

    I hope that UH fans cheer for *all* WAC teams (except BSU) in their nonconference games this season. There are several important reasons why WAC teams need to win their nonconference games:

    1. Every nonconference win provides a boost to the computer ranking of that team, which directly benefits UH when UH plays them in conference.

    2. The BCS gives $9 million to the non-AQ conferences to split any way they want (this is in addition to the money earned if a non-AQ team makes a BCS game). The non-AQ conferences decided to split up the money based on how well each conference did in their nonconference games. So, the MWC gets the biggest share of that money and the Sun Belt gets the least. Every nonconference loss by a WAC team costs UH money, every win earns UH money.

    We live in a strange world when one


  302. Garret:

    I don't know why that posted. Let me finish:

    We live in a strange world when one nonconference game by SJSU could make UH more money than a Wahine basketball game.

    3. The WAC plays something like 11 games against the MWC this season. If the WAC wins those games, they prevent the MWC from getting AQ status and take the MWC's top spot for the BCS money. If the MWC sweeps those games, they increase their chances of getting AQ status and they could push the WAC's revenue even lower.


  303. Kazz:

    kama krab:
    June 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Sorry to be such a downer,

    But in the grand scheme of things nobody really cares about anything but football. Football is the thing that makes an athletic department go. Plain and simple.

    When I think about it, I spend MORE dollars at other UH sports than I do for football, yet I only have season tickets in football as those are the games I can be sure to be at since they are all on Saturdays.

    My season tickets are only $99.00 for the North end zone orange level and I don't buy food at the stadium because it sucks and UH doesn't get a cut.

    For the other UH sports, I shell out game to game tickets at full price. Easily in one basketball season plus one Wahine and men's volleyball season each, I would be spending more on those than all of football plus merchandise combined.

    But again, the reason I mention that is, it's well-known to all of us that football is the machine that drives it all.

    But as we've all said, football MUST win now more than ever to keep the whole "car" running.

    The BIGGEST picture of all is if football wasn't around, then I want everyone that has enjoyed the victories and great moments from other UH sports like the BYU win in men's basketball, Wahine volleyball's NCAA appearances and annual upsets over higher ranked teams, the Wahine softball team's NCAA appearances and recent upset over Alabama and take all those emotions and pride and throw them away in the trash because they might not have happened if the money machine that is football wasn't around.

    Bottom line for me is, if someone forced me to go back in time and pick and choose if I had to erase the memory of the entire 2007 football season over all the other great memories and moments in other UH sports, then I'd rather have NONE at all. To me it's like asking to pick out which of my kids (if I had any) would I chose over in a life and death situation. I'd rather take death upon myself. I don't want just one, I want them ALL!!!

    More is at stake here than just football and the administrators and all involved with decisions being made for UH athletics better realize this.

    Jim Donovan said that UH athletics is the "front porch" for the visibility of the university on a national scale. Let's see him maintain that image when it's time to really clean up the porch.


  304. Old Diver:

    Certainly a lot of if this or if that today. If's ain't gonna help us this year. The team needs our positive karma. Like Garret says, "we need to win now" and have to play with who we have. If we don't win now we may not have a program to speak of in the future. It's too late for if's.


  305. Ralph:

    Na Wahine VB season ticket renewal ended yesterday, I wonder when they will announce season tickets available for first time buyers? Does the faculty, staff and students come first in ticket purchases before any newbie steps up to the plate. We had a terrific season last year, final four, should have been beating the drums for renewals and done it months ago. UHAD got to get the rest of the public in tune and hyped to join the band wagon, late better than never. McNamara, I hope you read the blog, your kuleana is external income, and I hope season tickets is part of the job description, otherwise, who is in charge.


  306. Kazz:

    But getting back to A-House's general question...

    I have no clear reason or theory as to why UH's women's programs have had more success than our men's.


  307. RedZone:

    I remember coach Mack saying that the payoff year will be next year.


  308. Garret:

    Ralph,

    You are correct that Chancellor Hinshaw was new to the job and she came from UC-Davis so she didn't have experience with D-IA football contracts. The people who advised her let her down...a simple Google search will turn up websites that provide the entire contracts for most D-IA football coaches. UH could have spent 5 minutes to make sure they weren't forgetting anything.

    I *never* thought that UH needed to throw the money at Mack like they did. UH does need to spend more money, but they didn't need to overspend in a way that doesn't help them on the field. Mack earning $800k or $1.1 million doesn't make the team win any extra games...but UH having $100k extra for recruiting would build the program. They basically gave Petersen (BSU) money without the years of success Petersen had at BSU to get raises up to that point.

    I told many people on the day that the dollar figures were revealed that UH overspent. Hinshaw didn't come up with the money--she just committed the Athletic Department to spend the money (while she also expects UH AD to balance the budget). It isn't like anyone at UH got donors to cover half of the contract like they did for JJ.

    No matter if UH had great success or not over the past 2 years, the money they overspent hurts the program. That is less money for recruiting, facilities, training, etc. The criticism of Mack would also be much less if the base had been lower and incentives added.

    Do you honestly think that Mack would have turned down $800k? Or even $500k with up to $500k in incentives...UH could have made many incentives fairly easy to reach (no APR penalty, basic attendance numbers) while others would have been true performance measures (conference title, bowl game). The public would then view Mack as earning his money instead of focusing on $1.1 million guaranteed.


  309. Garret:

    Old Diver is correct. I'll drop this subject. I shouldn't have responded when I saw this topic raised.


  310. Kazz:

    Ralph,

    I'm starting to think McNamara has a second job that is taking time away from his at Manoa.


  311. Garret:

    To change the subject, I'll do free play link time now. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    Next-generation of programmable matter has been created with self-folding sheets that operate like origami. The video at the link shows the programmable sheet self-folding into a boat and then a plane.


  312. Garret:

    Consortium led by biologists at UC-SD have been awarded $12 million for a 3-year research effort to conduct basic research that towards biofuels made from algae.


  313. Kazz:

    RedZone:
    June 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    I remember coach Mack saying that the payoff year will be next year.

    I had to double check that RedZone's post wasn't dated June 29th, 2009.


  314. Garret:

    Scientists have succeeded in growing new lungs using stem cells. This could be a major development because people with severe, incurable lung diseases such as cystic fibrosis can only survive with a lung transplant...but many people die while waiting for a matching donor lung.


  315. Garret:

    Scientists found a medical reason for the beneficial effects of acupuncture--acupuncture apparently triggers adenosine (a natural compound known for its anti-inflammatory properties), which acts as a natural painkiller.


  316. Garret:

    Rice researchers used an off-the-shelf digital camera to create an inexpensive device that is powerful enough to distinguish between cells with cancer and healthy cells...they just have to look at the LCD monitor on the back of the camera!


  317. Kazz:

    Last thing I'll say about the matter.

    The 1.1 million was ultimately the result of a REACTION.

    Herman Frazier provided the lack of PROACTIVITY that led to the REACTION.


  318. Garret:

    Breakthrough with stem cells has restored sight to dozens of people who were blinded or who suffered severe eye damage. 82 of 107 eyes were completely restored with sight and 14 others were partially cured, with benefits lasting up to a decade so far...one man was blinded more than 60 years ago and now has near-normal vision!


  319. Garret:

    Law schools are artificially inflating grades to help their students get jobs. Won't employers see through a retroactive increase in GPA?


  320. Garret:

    Adults are *more* likely than teenagers to text while driving than teenagers! Nearly half of all texting adults have texted while driving...I always assumed that teenagers were the ones texting while driving.


  321. Garret:

    Cat owners are upset with a law in Barre, Vermont that requires cats to be on leaches when outdoors. Similar cat leash laws also exist in Akron, OH, Aurora, CO, Montgomery County, MD, Palm Beach County, FL, and New Orleans.


  322. Garret:

    Free play links pau.


  323. Kazz:

    CONGRATS TO SOUTH CAROLINA ON WINNING THE COLLEGE WORLD SERIES!!!!!

    Good job Gamecocks!!!

    Should those in the recycling business be searching trashcans in the Omaha area for pieces of reusable second place trophies??? :lol:


  324. Ralph:

    I'm sure if UH finished 12-2 the last two years including wins in the Sheraton Bowls and attendance was legitimately in the mid 40K none of us would be discussing mac's salary as being too high. The rewards of winning and the additional revenue generated by a winning team would have paid for recruiting, etc. But we didn't win big, we are 13-14 over 2 years and naysayers sports publication are giving us a slim chance of success, finishing anywhere from 5 to 8 place. Winning is the issue, we haven't won enough and often enough.


  325. Slugger:

    Ralph,

    McNamara doesn't have the responsibility of season tickets. I believe I was told that Vince Baldemor does. The person who is the supervisor of the ticket sales office handles the day of game sales. It's a bit strange the way that's handled.


  326. Pride.:

    Garret:

    June 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
    Scientists found a medical reason for the beneficial effects of acupuncture–acupuncture apparently triggers adenosine (a natural compound known for its anti-inflammatory properties), which acts as a natural painkiller.

    Why dey neva jus' ask da Chinese? Scientists could have been doing sumting moa important, instead of wasting dea time trying foa find out sumting dat da Chinese already knew.


  327. Ralph:

    Baldemor, heard the name somewhere,but I thought it had to do with AKA or Na Koa.


  328. Ralph:

    Pride cuz the western scientist going sell herbal adenosine as a natural remedy to pain relief without needles. :)


  329. Pride.:

    Garret:

    June 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
    To change the subject, I’ll do free play link time now. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    Next-generation of programmable matter has been created with self-folding sheets that operate like origami. The video at the link shows the programmable sheet self-folding into a boat and then a plane.

    Whoah, in a few years I goin' have to tell my grankids dat no mattah what, dey still gotta fold dea blanket and fix dea own bed.


  330. Pride.:

    Ralph:

    June 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    Pride cuz the western scientist going sell herbal adenosine as a natural remedy to pain relief without needles.

    Oh, you mean capatalism? Capatilizing on someone else's idea. I tink dat my great, great, great, grandpa Ah Yuen stay turning over in his grave.


  331. d1島:

    mih,

    Cool stuff that '73 game program...was showing #2 son a Dad and an Uncle of a couple of his former teammates and all the Linfield references on the Records page.


  332. Slugger:

    Ralph,

    Vince Baldemor is with the UH Foundation. I believe Koa Anuenue. Since season tickets include a premium which is a donation to the Athletics programs, I believe that's the reason he's involved.


  333. Ralph:

    Pride are you joining us at Maple Garden tomorrow at Noon for a cc?


  334. Pride.:

    Ralph:

    June 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
    Pride are you joining us at Maple Garden tomorrow at Noon for a cc?

    Gametime decision.


  335. Ralph:

    Coach Coolen tweets from Colorado. He probably taking in the Colorado Fireworks tournament. Two of his 2010 recruits are participating with the SD Legacy 18U team. Three teams from Hawaii are there, Kamikaze, Kaikamahine, and the Pearls. The Pearls are also in the 16U where Coolen will be spending his time, the 18's are pretty much finished in their recruiting.


  336. RedZone:

    Kazz you can check with ST I remember Mack saying that the payoff year will be 2011. It kind of stuck in my head.


  337. koakane™:

    evening gang back home after a long afternoon and evening. held final services for my bro-in-law and it was very nice. meet a ghost from the past that stephen might know. our hosoi service host was none other than rod ohira. he came up to me and said you either went St. Louis or coached in the ILH.

    tired very tired but catching up on today's post and this caught me;

    madeinhawaii: June 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm, al remember Yasuo Yorita from McKinley High?

    flashback again because yas and I coached together in the mid 80's and 90's. meet another tiger but coach and later AD ..... ed watanabe. saw him this sunday at city mill. looks good but definitely older.

    well nuff for now cause need some serious nap time.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


  338. RedZone:

    It was on a Warrior Beat Show.


  339. koakane™:

    just short naps


  340. al:

    yup. malosi te'o would be an awesome bounce back player for us. i remember how he ran rampant and roughshod his senior year at kahuku.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZsd7tbU0-M

    after two years on a mission he returned to college at byu after being signed by unlv out of kahuku. he redshirted last year. imagine they wanted him at lb? he'd have 3 for 3 after sitting out one more year.


  341. SteveM:

    Getting sleepy from the codeine in my cough syrup. Needed a few extra slugs tonight, although the sinuses are doing fine. I am a NO GO for tomorrow's Cattle Call... even though I can taste, am hungry, no fever...

    I suppose I should be flattered that Al lists me as a "maybe" ... probably because I showed up for a Cattle Call straight from a doctor's appointment holding my 2nd course of antibiotics. Well, the doc said I had it so long I wasn't contagious anymore. :roll: But I would be better company if I stayed home tomorrow.

    It was good to see gigi-hawaii back today. Those that do not recall her should know that she was one of the builders and contributors to the blog community here and one it's most colorful denizens. She carried the title of "blog "Social Director" (Al was the "Restaurant Boss"). Together they are responsible for the Tsai-ko's meeting in person in the formative days of The Warrior Beat.

    Those that know what the Tsai-ko Battle ensign looks like, will know why this song is dedicated to gigi...again...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAuitCr-omA&feature=related

    Good night everyone!
    Blame this on my cough medicine. :|


  342. gigi-hawaii:

    What a nice tribute! Thanks, Steve. I napped between 8:30 and 10:00 and am now wide awake.

    I remember meeting you and Peaches for the 1st time at the 2nd WB party -- this time in Feb 2007 at Ryan's. I even took your picture, and I think I posted it on my blog. Fun time! Sun God was there and, of course, ST. 27 attended.

    The 1st WB party was held in Dec 2006 at Murphy's. Seventeen attended that first one.

    The 3rd party was again held at Murphy's in 2007 -- so many people attended that the place was bursting at its seams.

    Then there was that HUGE bash at the Stan Sheriff Center in 2008. Jim and Tracy Donovan were there and I remember ST, JD, and others performed the Haka. That was an event to remember.

    In between and since those parties, there have been CCs, karaoke, and tailgates at Richardson Field prior to the games.

    It's amazing how people just come together because of the Warrior Beat and our great football team!


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  344. wafan:

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  345. wafan:

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    Lots of things to do before packing.


  346. wafan:

    Hope everyone has a great time at today's cc!!!

    Good time for the restaurant to clean out their old stock. Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!


  347. d1島:

    Great Morning All!

    Eh, I nevah get one call from any footballers! :twisted:

    Oh, nevah mind...I already renewed.


  348. d1島:

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