Masoli, Pa'aluhi won't join Warriors

July 16th, 2010
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Two former standout Pac-10 players — quarterback Jeremiah Masoli and linebacker David Pa‘aluhi — will not be joining the Warriors this year, according to people with close knowledge of the situation.

Both had contacted UH. But it was mutually decided Masoli would not join the Warriors, according to sources. Pa‘aluhi, who was set to sign enrollment papers at UH, instead  reaffirmed a previous commitment to enlist in the military with the intent of joining Special Forces.

Masoli, who was raised on the Mainland, attended Saint Louis School as a high school senior. He played one year at City College of San Francisco, where Nick Rolovich was the quarterbacks coach. At the end of that season, Rolovich was hired as UH's quarterbacks coach. As a qualifier out of high school, Masoli was eligible to transfer to a Division I-A after after one year at a JC. Out of respect for CCSF coach George Rush — a close friend to UH head coach Greg McMackin and Rolovich — the Warriors opted not to recruit Masoli at that time, which would have allowed him to return to CCSF for his sophomore season.

Instead, Masoli made himself available to be recruited. He signed with Oregon. After opening the season as the No. 3 quarterback, Masoli earned the starting job. In 2009, he helped Oregon win the Pac-10 championship.

But he was suspended for the entire 2010 season after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor burglary charge. Last month, he was dismissed from the Oregon team after receiving a citation for marijuana possession.

Pa‘aluhi, a Waianae High graduate, was Oregon State's second-leading tackler in 2009. He requested — and received — a release from his scholarship after insisting he wanted to enlist in the military. Pa‘aluhi, a new father, returned to Hawaii. He then contacted the UH coaches about the possibility of joining the Warriors. Talks had progressed enough that Pa‘aluhi was about to be added to the roster. But yesterday, UH coaches learned that Pa‘aluhi had decided to continue with his original plans.

228 Responses to “Masoli, Pa'aluhi won't join Warriors”

  1. d1島:

    Best of luck to David Pa'aluhi


  2. d1島:

    Hoping that Jeremiah Masoli can turn things around.


  3. d1島:

    (psst...typo in the 4th paragraph)


  4. 808ike:

    4!


  5. Stephen Tsai:

    Typo? What typo? lol.


  6. Stephen Tsai:

    Ah, the power of the editing function.


  7. ai-eee-soos:

    Good news that masoli is NOT joining the Warriors. END of story.


  8. NYUH:

    Any chance of a Malcolm Lane return? We have a lot of talent at WR but ML has been a contributor and thus a sacrificer since he came here from Germany. With a daughter who loves Lilo and Stitch I'm constantly reminded that "Ohana means no one is left behind".

    Having said that, I'm quite unaware of the details involved in this affair. I'm just a fan speaking from the heart.


  9. bowlute:

    Any word on other transfers? Sol Kohler?


  10. Garret:

    Best wishes to David Pa‘aluhi.


  11. Stephen Tsai:

    From what I can tell, Malcolm Lane will not be back.
    There were certain things he needed to do last fall, which he didn't do. I thought he was OK for the spring, but then he wasn't invited to spring practice. Having not practiced with the team in nearly a year, and not being around unsupervised workouts, I think his career might be over. That's a shame.


  12. Garret:

    Feature article on Aaron Kia.

    What are your plans for the break?

    I held a job for a little bit. I was working at a beach in Hawaii, renting out boards, setting out chairs and stuff. I don't know, regular beach stuff. It's beach stuff to me; it's whatever, working on a beach. It's the best thing to do other than football.

    What are your first impressions of being a Jet?

    It's a complete 180 from what I'm used to. The weather, the players, everything. It's definitely different for me. I just try to stay focused on practice and try not to worry about what's going on around me. It feels great, though. It feels good to be a part of it. It's just going from a college setting to a pro setting. Now it's an all-day thing with football, and I love it. College you have to deal with school and all sorts of things coming in, but now I can just focus on football and that's what I like.


  13. Stephen Tsai:

    Kohler:
    It doesn't look hopeful for him, either. He needs to take care of business.


  14. Stephen Tsai:

    Garret:
    Thanks for the J-E-T-S feed.
    You've earned an extra hour of free play.


  15. Annoddah Dave:

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    Over the past few weeks, WB blog dogs have been targeting USC. For me, it will be a tough game since things seem so stacked against the Warriors. Some consolation would be that the USC band does not come...the last time, they showed no class by playing after the game such that the UH band could not play the Alma Mater with the team standing there on the field patiently waiting for them to finish. It got to the point of being too much so the Warriors and the UH band just left.


  16. Garret:

    Steve Sarkisian is going to help raise money for scholarships for BYU...during the weekend that his U-Dub team plays at BYU!

    For the first time in school history, all seven All-American quarterbacks — who played for legendary coach LaVell Edwards — are returning to Provo to take part in a fundraiser for the BYU Football program.

    Y Quarterback Weekend is scheduled for Sept. 3-4, and will feature All-Americans Gifford Nielsen, Marc Wilson, Jim McMahon, Steve Young, Robbie Bosco, Ty Detmer and Steve Sarkisian. In addition, all former BYU quarterbacks have been invited to take part in the weekend activities.

    “Our goal is to raise $1 million to endow scholarships at BYU, starting with the quarterback scholarships,” said Gifford Nielsen, who was a first-team All-American quarterback at BYU in 1976.


  17. LizKauai (iPad):

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Kauai BREAKFAST Kattle Kall
    Next Friday
    6:30 AM
    Tip Top Restaurant in Lihue

    Special guest: DJMITCHO!


  18. Annoddah Dave:

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    Garret's blurb on BYU quarterbacks brings up a possibility for the Warriors to do same. Instead of qb's, why not have a fund raiser that brings together all UH All-Americans. Especially since we are celebrating 100 years of football. I don't know how many we have had. I know that Tommy Kaulukukui, Al Noga, were All-Americans. Is there a list Garret?


  19. Garret:

    Annoddah Dave,

    Good idea for UH to raise funds this way! I like to post things like this that other schools are doing because hopefully UH will do them also.

    Here is a list for the AP All-Americans that played football for UH:

    AP All-Americans

    * Colt Brennan, 2006 & 2007 3rd team Q
    * Davone Bess, 2007 3rd team WR
    * Chad Owens, 2004 2nd team KR (AP)
    * Jason Elam, 1991 3rd team K
    * Larry Khan-Smith, 1988 2nd team RS
    * Al Noga, 1986 1st team DL
    * Walter Murray, 1985 3rd team WR

    AP Little All-Americans

    * Levi Stanley, 1973 2nd team DT
    * Jim Stone, 1971 3rd team DE
    * Tim Buchanan, 1968 1st team LB
    * Nolle Smith, 1941 1st team HB


  20. Kazz:

    RE: USC BAND DISRESPECTING OUR ALMA MATER

    THAT IS SUCH BULLCRAP!!!!

    THIS IS OUR HOME GAME AND THE TIME AFTER THE GAME TO PLAY OUR ALMA MATER IS OUR RIGHT!!!

    THIS IS WHERE OUR ATHLETIC ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO PUT IT'S FOOT DOWN AND LET THOSE ARROGANT RED AND YELLOW TOOTERS TO KEEP THEIR FINGERS AND MOUTHS SHUT BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I LOOKED, THERE WAS NO SMOG IN THE AIR SO THIS AIN'T LA AND THIS AIN'T TROJAN TERRITORY.


  21. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsai-kos!
    Happy Aloha Friday!

    Last day of work before vacation. Much to do.

    hiho


  22. Kazz:

    Annoddah Dave,

    I shouldn't be so surprised by this example of arrogance and disrespect from a school with that reputation of arrogance and self-entitlement.

    But still... I am amazed.

    I wasn't at that 2005 game as I was stuck at Lex Broadies on Kamehameha Hwy trying to get my tires taken care of... :lol:


  23. Annoddah Dave:

    Kazz,

    Just ask any USC alum who was there to root for their Alma Mater, and UH as well who stuck around after the game and they will verify. Even my kids noticed since we stood for the Alma Mater along with the team on the field waiting, and waiting, and waiting. My kids commented...How come they're not playing (UH Band), Dad?


  24. Maverick:

    Was fun to watch him play, and Would of, could of been a great final season for Masoli, but he pee'd in his own prunes.
    Wrote a check that his backside can not cash.


  25. MichiganWarrior:

    #16... Garret... Great idea to keep these fresh ideas floating around! We've got to implement some of these. They can only help, right?
    In fact, if Upper Campus wants to participate and raise scholarship money for their various departments, they can set up donation/information booths themselves. We can call it "Magic of Manoa" or something, and have academic stars as well as popular athletes.
    And, ST, thanks for putting the Masoli story to rest. That one's been dragging on a bit too long.


  26. djmitcho:

    Good Morning All! Happy Aloha Friday!!!


  27. Kazz:

    Annoddah Dave,

    No need to convince me anymore.

    The whole thing sounds rude enough to fit the persona.


  28. Kazz:

    Carried over from yesterday's blog:

    Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    Regarding the rudeness of that grad student that insulted the Board of Regents, me and Pomai, during the 5 minute break, just had to laugh at that. It's common knowledge that you do NOT insult the very individuals you are trying to convince.

    Decisions that have the magnitude of something like the athletic fee are not made on emotion.

    People like that tend to enjoy their self-fulfilling prophecies and THRIVE on playing the role of "martyr" or LOVE being in the position where "they will never be heard".

    It's a sad situation that only they continue to nurture. It's pathetic.


  29. ai-eee-soos:

    JD will be on 1420, shortly.


  30. 702WarriorFan:

    JD will be on BC ESPN 1420 shortly......


  31. lolonuts:

    Masoli is a thug whose game wouldn't translate well to Hawaii anyway.


  32. Kazz:

    Best of luck to David Pa’aluhi in joining the ranks of our armed forces.


  33. Slugger:

    Morning!

    I'm going to walk to UH...hope they are practicing.

    Esme & out...


  34. chopsueyboy:

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!


  35. roysan16:

    To Masoli,

    I hope you bounce back on your feet, and it's in the right direction.

    On the field you were a multiple dimensional quarterback. You could run, pass, and you could do it all. You were, to me, a joy to watch, especially in last year's Rose Bowl Game.

    Off the field you've held multiple personalities. Both enigmatic and problematic. Role model and leader turned rogue and villain.

    One of your sportswriter from your hometown wrote that you were an idiot. And his caption Canzano: Rise and fall of Jeremiah Masoli reads like a Shakespearean tragedy is evidently true.

    By now you've faced the wrath of those in private and in public. And are, probably, continuously reminded of what were you thinking? And where was your mind at on those days you committed those crimes?

    The irony is that a booster to the Oregon athletic program donated 600 laptops; there's a laptop at your fingertips and at your disposal at every stop. Yet you went out and burglarized a student's residence and stole two laptops. Why? It's almost like saying there's so many bushels of fruit in the orchard,but you wanted to take the one that's forbidden.

    Then there's the suspended license charge. A traffic violation. And being cited for possession of marijuana.

    Anyone following your path would only shake their heads, like your highly awarded hometown sportswriter that called you an idiot. But not me. And probably not a lot of other people either that would rather see the goodness in person overcome the bad instead.

    Take stewardship of your life Masoli. Best wishes.


  36. NYUH:

    Any idea what they are planning for Jake Heun this year? Any chance he will go back to being a powerback at RB?


  37. ai-eee-soos:

    AAD John McNamara will be on 1420, in a bit.

    Talk about season tickets?


  38. Bigislandkurt:

    Maybe Pa'aluhi pulls a Brett Farve and reports after all. He is the one I would have most wanted to join the warriors. A dominant LB is always a good addition.

    BIK


  39. NYUH:

    One of the things that disturbs me is how much disrespect people in Hawai'i have for the University when what would the islands be without it? The Diego Garcia of the Pacific? That is a little harsh given its wonderful cultural heritage but agriculture is largely gone, tourism has its limits - economically, environmentally, culturally; and in general business has its own cycles to content with – which is certainly down right now. The University of Hawai'i is the "straw that stirs the drink" on these islands to borrow a phrase from our Colt Brennan. Do you think APEC would be coming here next year without the influence of the University and its junior partner - the East-West Center? UH is a great school and its students are hard-working and have a great attitude towards learning and academics. The Star-Advertiser should run a series trying to imagine what Hawai'i would be like without the university. I think it would open some eyes and make people think a bit more about what it could be like living in the world's most geographically isolated place without this educational jewel.


  40. Garret:

    Sol Elimimian will get his first start in the CFL!

    Former University of Hawai'i Warrior linebacker and 2008 Western Athletic Conference Co-Defensive Player-Of-The-Year, Solomon Eliminian, will earn his first start in profession football tonight as he suits up against the defending Grey Cup Champions Montreal Alouettes.

    The game will air at 10:00 pm EST on ESPN3


  41. Garret:

    If Houston's QB throws for 1,500 yards *less* than last season, he will break Timmy Chang's passing yardage record.

    Keenum attempted 700 passes, completing 492 for 5,671 yards and 44 touchdowns during the 2009 season.

    Those numbers helped Houston finish with a 10-4 record and earn a trip to the Armed Forces Bowl.

    It was the second time Keenum surpassed the 5,000-yard mark in a single season at Houston. Keenum finished with 5,020 passing yards as a sophomore.

    If Keenum throws for 4,123 yards in 2010, he would pass former University of Hawaii quarterback Timmy Chang for the all-time passing yardage record.M.


  42. Stretch:

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    I am pleased that the athletic fee was passed. As promised, I will be donating $50/semester into the UH Foundation - Tsaiko Athletic Fund that will be used for the athletic department.

    gigi and others brought up the question if I die, who takes care of the fund. To clarify, I am NOT authorized to take money out of the account to make purchases. JD is the authorized person. I am only the contact person and will call JD when we decide to make a purchase. If I am unable to make the phone call, some other Tsaiko with ST's blessing, can.


  43. wafan:

    A fine Aloha Friday to everyone!


  44. NYUH:

    Garret: Wow, we thought TC's record was pretty much unmatchable. Should be good press for UH if this becomes a discussion later in the season. I thought BYU's Ty Detmer handled it well when his records were challenged and surpassed.


  45. wafan:

    Been a bit busy but enjoying the blog.

    Glad to see the fee passed. I paid $100 per semester at an NAIA school for what was really a football and basketball fee. That was in addition to out-of-state tuition, books, apartment, meals, etc.


  46. wafan:

    Oops. That was $100 per year.


  47. Garret:

    The Title IX blog mentions how Universities are raising student athletic fees to balance their budgets.


  48. Kazz:

    Stretch,

    Good idea.

    I too shall match $50.00 per semester to the Tsaiko Athletic Fund account online.


  49. Garret:

    NYUH,

    I agree, I thought that Chang's yardage record would never be broken. We will be hearing a lot about his chase to pass Chang as the season goes on.

    One interesting tidbit is that Houston will play SMU on a nationally televised game around the time that Keenum will be getting close to Chang's record. I think they will probably discuss Chang's record through the entire game and will probably point out JJ's link to Chang a zillion times during the game. The game will probably be for the C-USA West title, but now there will be additional attention on that game.


  50. Stephen Tsai:

    Several years ago, JJ staged an event in which he honored quarterbacks of the past. Brought in all of the great ones, including the QB of the team that didn't complete the season because of the Pearl Harbor attack I'm pretty sure, though, that was put on by the JJ Foundation.


  51. bb:

    Could it be possible that the person that was popping off at the BOR and going on her rant was a mole? --Someone who was actually in support of the fee but wanted to plant a seed in the BOR's head?

    From what I understand it was so ridiculous and off the wall that even other opponents of the fee were probably like WTF?


  52. Stretch:

    bb - at first I thought you wrote "male" not mole.... ooops.


  53. Kazz:

    bb,

    People that knew the individual in other "areas" can vouch that is her usual MO.


  54. (Jesse) James:

    Good morning Tsaikos....Hope all is well.

    Like Stretch...and as I promised yesterday....in meeting Stretch's challenge, I too will be donating $50 per semester to the Tsaiko fund....I'd better start collecting cans now....lets see, 5 cents per can ......add 2, carry the one....ummmm, I need 1,000 cans by next semester...okay, gonna scrounge around the parks soon...MWAHAHAHAHHA


  55. al:

    wasn't it jj who said that timmy chang's record will never be broken....?


  56. Stretch:

    JJ - I am sure there will be a lot of cans/bottles at the tailgates this coming season.


  57. Jack Flash:

    So the fee passed with a vote of 11-3 huh?
    Ok-that's my official prediction for the Warriors 2010 season record (with a Hawaii Bowl win of course!)


  58. (Jesse) James:

    Stretch...yeah...but ummm...those go to Doc right??? LOL Maybe I will just start searching through those blue bins I see on the streets....MWAHAHAHAHA


  59. al:

    roysan16...i too hope that masoli takes this wake up call to turn himself around. in all this he must be a rather bright young man since he is on target to graduate this year. i hope he can at least land at some college and play out his football career on a high note. he is talented enough to play multiple positions and could be a plus to some college.


  60. al:

    jack flash...i hope your prediction comes true.


  61. al:

    j/j...we can hide our bottles and cans for you. why just from the bottles of your setup partners alone will get you an easy fifty bucks by half a season.


  62. koakane™:

    morning tsaiko country and its looking good on this sunny day.

    I will also support by providing as much bottles at the tgates this coming season for jj. sure homey will participate in such a good cause, so I pledge him too. lol


  63. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Nice cool, cloudy day in Seattle. Yesterday the temperature was mid-70's and humid...felt almost like Hawaii. Now the outdoor air conditioning is on. :)

    Lots of things happening with all the relatives arriving today and the wedding tomorrow. Good thing my sister (mother of the bride) is cruising with us this Sunday...she needs a rest.


  64. Shoko:

    Good luck and best wishes to David Pa‘aluhi!


  65. koakane™:

    sending howzit out to djmichko and welcome home, to bad not making a visit to oahu. plenty scoop on the old ala mater that just happened last month. wafan is here also and will be planning a cc when al is not island hopping (hint hint).


  66. madeinhawaii:

    Jack Flash:
    July 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
    So the fee passed with a vote of 11-3 huh?
    Ok-that’s my official prediction for the Warriors 2010 season record (with a Hawaii Bowl win of course!

    It's an OMEN! yeah!


  67. (Jesse) James:

    KK....I knew I could count on you and homey to supply lots of bottles...thanks...


  68. koakane™:

    holding off comments on the activity fee (name used in my day way back when)until I see how the students are being treated for their contribution. I always held that these activities were way better when students were involved, much more electricity and pride displayed. Sat in sections with season ticket holders and hard time getting them to be enthusiastic. Some games sat in the student section and man it rocked. Just hopping UH does the right thing and give them appropriate seating to the athletic events and not stick them anyplace. jmho


  69. (Jesse) James:

    What?? CC....??? Did I hear a bell ringing???


  70. tommui:

    STRETCH

    if I die, who takes care of the fund?

    May I respectfully offer a suggestion? Don't die!

    Hope others will join in to enhance (i.e. enrich) the Tsaiko fund.


  71. al:

    gramps in fine form this morning...did you just paraphrase what i said in #61 with your #62?

    island hopping two weeks now...looks like a third next week.


  72. Slugger:

    Today the football & women's VB players were on the grass field working on conditioning drills.

    Royce Pollard back after working out on the mainland.

    Why isn't Siaki Cravens on the roster?


  73. Old Diver:

    BoR would have looked pretty stupid if they didn't pass the fee after telling JD to run the AD more like a business. A business can cut costs only so much, and is not affected by title IX (mandatory expenses which don't increase sales). It's now time for the football and basketball teams to do their part. If they are successful only then, like Garret has been saying will we see real improvement in the athletic department.


  74. A-House:

    Perhaps ill timed, but the idea of "assessing" each student per semester, maybe $100-500, toward a maintenance "fund" will go a long way for students to help UH become a more "beautiful campus" with renovated buildings, sufficient lab materials/text books, instructors, classes, etc.

    None of the funds would be used for salaries.


  75. A-House:

    Slugger:

    Were the new WVB players also working out?


  76. Shoko:

    The product is key in any business.


  77. gigi-hawaii:

    It's really too bad some talented athletes cannot stay out of trouble with the law. Compare Masoli to Tim Tebow, for instance. What a difference.


  78. gigi-hawaii:

    It will be interesting to see how long it will take Tebow to win the starting QB job.


  79. Slugger:

    A-House,

    There were a bunch of WVB players there. I'm sure some of the new ones were there, but I don't know what they look like. Coach Shoji was there for half of the workout. The girls were pushing the carts in addition to the guys.


  80. Slugger:

    With the size of the VB squad, I think all of the girls were there.


  81. UH/SN68 Fan:

    RE: Garret #19 Post

    Most people forget Farrington HS & UH alum, Jim Kalili, who was a 1970 AP Little All-American
    2nd Team OG and Kodak honorable mention. Jimmy was a ferocious pulling guard for two great (for UH) Oklahoma football transfers, RBs Bill Massey and Larry Sherrer; what a running game!


  82. Garret:

    UH/SN68 Fan,

    I'm sorry that I neglected to mention Jim Kalili and I thank you for pointing that out. I got the list from Wikipedia and they aren't always complete with their information.


  83. Garret:

    A-House,

    You have good ideas about a fee for a maintenance fund to address the other needs on campus. Instead of going through the fee process again, I believe that the maintenance needs will be addressed (at least in part) by the tuition increase next year. UH doesn't have enough money to maintain its buildings, but the extra tuition money should address this.

    My guess is that the tuition increase will make the Athletic Fee amount look very small.


  84. Stephen Tsai:

    I'm pretty sure that Tebow is better behaved than 99 percent of the people on the planet.
    But there are a lot of contributing factors to behavior: environment, family situation, economics, trauma, genetics, etc.
    People make mistakes. Correcting the mistakes is the key.


  85. Garret:

    Article about the upgraded scoreboard at Aloha Stadium.

    Aloha Sports Properties is completing a deal with Oceanic Time Warner to install a new LED scoreboard at Aloha Stadium.

    The contract will be the largest to date with a corporate sponsor, according to Glen Higa, general manager of Aloha Sports Properties, which is part of CBS Collegiate Sports Properties. The four-year contract will provide Oceanic with corporate sponsorship. Financial details of the sponsorship were not available.

    The 60-foot scoreboard will replace the existing JumboTron, in place since 1991, and will be more than twice the size. Higa said construction should be completed by mid-August, in time for the University of Hawaii football season, which begins Sept. 2.

    “From a fan’s standpoint, it will create a whole new level of viewing experience,” Higa said. “The replays will be much clearer and there will be better viewing of fancams.”

    He said the company also is close to finalizing a deal with a soft-drink company.


  86. madeinhawaii:

    Funny.. the marijuana charges didn't bother me as much as the driving with a suspended license did. That's like lugging around a deadly weapon without a permit. No license, no insurance. Aiyah! The combination of no license with an intoxicating substance... Aiysoos!
    Doing this just three months after being put on probation? Auwe!

    Thank goodness he at least got his degree! There's hope, yet... Hope that he learned his lesson and keeps his nose clean so that he can make the most of his potential.


  87. madeinhawaii:

    Hope they don't run into snags installing the new scoreboard. I mean with all that rust and all... Thing must weigh a ton or more.


  88. Stephen Tsai:

    The university is in this situation is because of the way the lawmakers, empowered by the voters, set the priorities.
    Furloughs are an example of where education ranks.
    From what I gather from yesterday's testimony, there were two areas of concern:
    1. Bang for the buck. By paying another fee, will that enhance the value of a student's UH experience?
    2. Compensation.
    Of the first, the argument is, basically, a student is currently paying equal or more than the experience received, and that the fee is an additional burden that will not enhance the value. Which bring us to: why are you attending the university. If it's to get a job, then it must be considered whether the amount invested in training (classes, contacts) is worth what will be earned from the eventual career. For instance, I imagine if you're an engineering student, UH is a great value. If you're a philosophy student, well, maybe the fee is an added burden. Of course, what is the price tag for the experience of college?
    Of the second, it appears there were complaints about the distribution of resources at the university. It wasn't the merits of an athletics fee, it was: why is athletics getting help when our program needs help? And, of course, it also came down to pay. People want administrators to take pay cuts, but there wasn't a call for professors to take cuts.
    This is what happens when people debate politics, religion or money.


  89. Buffoman:

    Mr. Tsai, your last point is such a terrific, spot on point. And, may I add when that is hinted at, the response from those in that camp state that we need to keep compensation at the level it is, or better it to keep the prestige of the institution at the lofty level. Now, when compensation is secure and not the topic, there are comments that we have an instituion of higher learning that lags way behind those on the upper 48.

    What is it, really? Are we good or are we bad. and really, is it that difficult to get professors to come and teach. Gosh, if the retirement is the same, when they're done at the UH and decide to go to Peoiria to teach, I believe the benfits package from UH has us still paying for some of their benefits.

    UHPA is quite a powerful union, make no mistake. Of all of the State workers who had to sacrifice, they gave up the least.


  90. Pomai:

    One other thing I noticed at yesterdays BOR meeting, Coach Shoji made the comment that one reason he was for the fee is that it gave free admisson to students to attend games and that he has seen students with nothing to do on a Thursday or Friday so he feels they will go to the games because it's free to get in, well I'm sorry to disagree. We have been to all of the softball games an very few students attend and those who did where friends of the players. I have said to Kazz several times that it's a shame that more students don't attend the games to support the girls, heck it's free and it's fun to watch all the balls end up in the tennis courts. So I really don't think it will by itself bring more kids to the games.


  91. papajoe2:

    #74 A-house, I too like your idea of adding a fee for maintenance only (not salaries). Unfortunately, I'm sure, after a few years they will find ways to divert that money, or even decrease the money currently provided for that service, to again, have shortfalls.


  92. papajoe2:

    Pomai #90, maybe they would go to other sports since it would be free, and get caught up in the moment, and realize that UH sports is fun, thus trying other sports. If softball did charge an admission, I wonder how many of those "friends" would have gone to the games? If a sport is making a national impact, you, most certainly, would see the students lined up to get in to the "free" event. Softball time frame coincides with graduation and finals too.


  93. (Jesse) James:

    Pomai...I understand where you are coming from (#90) but I think that if the students feel like they are paying for something, then they should use it and get something out of it. Sort of like going to the gym. My monthly dues are like $30. If I go everyday, like Mr. A-House, than that's only a dollar a day. If I only go 4 times a month, than I would be paying $7.50 a workout.

    If a pay a $50 athletics fee and only go to one game as a student for the year, that's like paying for a $50 ticket. If I go to 10 games that semester, I pay only $5 a game.

    But what the heck, I'm Chinese, so maybe I look at it differently....MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


  94. madeinhawaii:

    When imposed a fee, I think they will attend more games simply because they "paid" for it and will see what their money can get them. Since all their colleagues will have equally free access, one will be able to coax the other and the domino effect should take place. That spill over will make them more aware of the other sports and we should gradually see more student attendance over the years in all sports. Cheaper than the movies... same hours of entertainment and for the cost of movie tickets, you could stuff yourself.


  95. madeinhawaii:

    Now... it might help to have some of the athletes walk across campus with megaphones during the week leading up to certain games announcing the schedules... They can be silly...daring.. whatever... just put a smile on the faculty and staff and pique their interests. Maybe the cheerleaders can do some kind of marching bit.. along with volunteers from the band...


  96. madeinhawaii:

    I'd even start the year with a parade of champions on campus... band, cheerleaders and all.. pass out hand flyers that detail their achievements and the upcoming schedules...


  97. Last Call:

    Not everyone cares about sports and that includes a large number of students . I disagree with Shoji that this will bring students to games maybe a few but not in significant numbers.Many of the WAC schools have free admission for students and you still hear their fans saying, where are the students ?

    What motivates students ? Free beer .


  98. Shoko:

    Just a question here, folks. Does the campus offer free transportation to and from Aloha Stadium for those that don't have transportation?


  99. madeinhawaii:

    Last Call...

    !!! all students drink beer?


  100. Shoko:

    Oh boy, I can see problems arising if there was free beer. At least from my standpoint, as one of the biggest hurdles in adjusting to college life was increasing alcohol consumption. I can't tell you how many times I spend throwing-up behind the school cafeteria during breakfast.


  101. papajoe2:

    With this new athletic fee, will it still include free transportation to the Aloha Stadium for the students? Before the vote, there was talk that the fee will include transportation. I haven't read anything in the SA that mentioned this, or did I miss it? If so, where would this free transportation be from? UH? Or maybe you just show your UH ID and the students can get on one of the buses or services that provide transportation like the Kam Drive In.


  102. papajoe2:

    #98 SHOKO, beat me to it >#101.


  103. Shoko:

    Great minds think alike! ;)


  104. papajoe2:

    #103 what about me???


  105. greenthumb:

    #100 Shoko, but with the drinking age is 21 nowadays, the adjustment should be easier, right? ;)

    And I've been doing some thinking, in addition to the 10 percent we paid in fees (about $20 added to our $220/semester tuition), we also paid for football and at least men's BB tickets. Football was like $6/game, plus the extra line to stand in for the super rooter stamp on your student ID -- plus running in when the stadium gates opened. Men's BB was expensive by comparison, I remember, because we had to scrape together the money for either first night or second night season tickets, if anyone remembers those days, and we couldn't afford both. Also, they put the students in the nosebleed section of Blaisdell, which was kind of gloomy. Which circles around to -- hopefully as part of this fee situation, UH is looking at restoring at least a small super rooter section on the sideline. That is where the band and the LOUD students deserve to be. It is their college years. /soapbox.


  106. Shoko:

    #104
    You, sir, have one of the greatest minds on this board. :)


  107. Stephen Tsai:

    The chancellor's office paid for the free bus service for students, to and from the stadium.
    I'm with (J)J on this. If you pay for it, you're going to use it.
    But, of course, UH knows that most students won't use the services. I mean, 20,000 students will pay the fee, but UH only is reserving 5,000 Aloha Stadium seats. Why not 20,000 seats? Or 10,000?


  108. papajoe2:

    #106 Shoko, Thank you, thank you very much. But I wish it was in my head instead.


  109. Garret:

    Feature article on Brett Leonard.

    As a member of the scout team, Leonard was asked to replicate the play of Idaho's Mike Iupati, who didn't play left tackle, but was arguably the best left guard in the country and was later a first-round draft pick of the San Francisco 49ers.

    "They wanted me to portray him," said Leonard, who noticed right away the obvious discrepancy in positions. Redshirted, Leonard was listed on the depth chart as the No. 3 left tackle for the Warriors - he was only to be used in an emergency situation - and was better preparing himself for his next two seasons at Hawaii.

    Two months later, coaches confirmed any initial inklings Leonard had when he was formally asked to be the team's starting left guard in 2010.

    "I think I played it my freshmen year in high school," said Leonard, who was admittedly hesitant at first of the switch after playing tackle for so many years.

    But for the Hollister native, who's turned heads at Hawaii with his ability to play multiple positions during his redshirt year, the new role was simply another way of helping the team.

    "They gave me a choice, but I think guard is where my future is at," said Leonard, who is currently listed at 6-foot-5, 314 pounds. "They're looking out for me and what's best for the team. I think it might be better for me, too, because I'm not 6-foot-7.

    "Six-foot-five guys are usually guards."


  110. Garret:

    Leonard talked about getting some time at center in fall camp.

    "I'll be starting somewhere. I may see some snaps at center in camp, but left guard is where I'll probably end up at," Leonard said.

    "I figure it will be just another weapon for myself, where I can tell someone that I've played all the positions."


  111. papajoe2:

    ST #107, Would students be allowed to bring a guest? When my pop was alive, he would go as my sister's guest at Aloha Stadium. I can't remember if it was free or just a small token price. Great seats though.


  112. d1島:

    A-house/Garret,

    I'm kinda liking A-house's idea a little more (must be the incessant banging :-) ) now of a separate fee for maintenence/renovation. If kept apart from a tuition increase, it may be beyond the reach of contract negotiations with the various unions who are always keeping a sharp eye out for any new revenue streams.

    papajoe,

    I hear what you saying about the propensity for funds like this to get raided (anyone watching for the next hurricane?) but at least it would be an additional barrier and who knows(?) maybe some improvements will actually get done before the money evaporates!


  113. d1島:

    papajoe2,

    I think I remember Guest tickets, too.

    ...paid to be nice to a student then! ;-)


  114. d1島:

    20,000 will pay the fee...2000 will realize it....200 will know it is $100/year...


  115. thepar:

    really dont know what school would be stupid enought to give this thug a chance,he doesnt deserve one. Hopping he ends up in prison where he belongs!!


  116. Stephen Tsai:

    papajoe:
    Students may not bring non-student guests. I suppose the non-student could pay for a seat ...


  117. Stephen Tsai:

    Construction projects are paid through the CIP (capital improvement project fund),
    UH pays for maintenance.
    I've always felt there needs to be re-distribution. I think they need more maintenance/groundskeepers than custodians in the Lower Campus.


  118. d1島:

    Condolences to the Eldredge Ohana.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20100716_As_student_then_teacher_Punahou_was_in_her_blood.html


  119. d1島:

    Despite spending fewer days in the classroom, public school students continued to make gains in reading and math test scores this year, according to results released yesterday.

    Anyone else see the irony here? :twisted:


  120. Last Call:

    Most athletes don't even support fellow athletes in other sports by attending games.


  121. madeinhawaii:

    d1

    Pavlov... dim the lights... productivity goes up for a short period of time... brighten it.. productivity goes up for a short period of time.. but ultimately returns to status quo... The conclusion? People need constant change as a stimulus.... status quo is a sure way to mediocrity.


  122. Mike:

    To clarify Big Bro's earlier post, there was a call for professors (full, associate, assistant, lecturers, etc) to take a pay cut -- and it came from the administration. So now we're teaching larger classes for less money. Just the facts.


  123. madeinhawaii:

    or was that Jung.. .Skinner?... Gigi would know, eh?


  124. Slugger:

    Pomai,

    I'm glad that I was the last speaker to end the public input on a positive note for the fee. As I said yesterday, NAU implemented a fee for their student rec center that also included free admission to games for all students by showing your ID. It DID increase the attendance at games by students. We still didn't have very high attendance at women's basketball games until they started winning more under Charli Turner Thorne, who is now at ASU.

    The Athletics department is planning to advertise the benefits of the fee in Ka Leo. I think they need to put flyers in the dorms; that's your 'captive' audience who are on campus & most likely to go to a game if they weren't doing anything. When I worked at NAU, I bought a Community SportsPass to give me admission to all games. If I were working late, (a common occurrence,) I would just go to a game from work. I'd even drive back in a light snow to go to a game. So, having unlimited admission to games removes the mental & fiscal barrier.

    Jim D. also said that for games that are NOT expected to sell-out, they'd probably permit students in beyond the (5,000 football) limit. They need to work out the logistics if the sections in the North end zone (SS & RR) and part of the lower QQ section for students are filled. They'll need to determine where to seat the additional students.


  125. Kazz:

    Students taking advantage of free admission now.

    As someone that is constantly looking around the UH venues for students this is what I think.

    I think the sport that will see the biggest increase in student attendance will be men's basketball. With new coach Gib Arnold in place that alone is enough to drive the curiosity of non student fans alone. Men's college basketball for the past two years has been a test dummy of sorts for the results of free attendance for students when it came to those two late night ESPN games.

    Now, granted several factors played a key role. For one, it was general seating and the late night on a weekday really captured the key time frame for college students.... LATE NIGHT. Personally speaking, the appeal of this as most people my age or younger will tend to hold jobs, especially in college, at an establishment like a restaurant where they will be off work most times after 10pm.

    But seriously, this is the closest UH has gotten to "experimenting" with the effects of complete free admission for UH Manoa students.

    However if you combine the draw of NCAA men's basketball in general with FREE admission for the whole year and beyond, the potential to see a real spike in student attendance lies here.

    Wahine Volleyball will still draw the largest student body attendance for any sport held in the Stan Sheriff Center on average. WHY? They win and look DYNAMITE doing it. :wink:

    UH football may see the least effects of free admission. Why? Location. Sure the buses are packed on campus, as one student claims as he testified yesterday in front of the BOR, but for football to draw more students even with FREE admission is winning. Again, there may be some kind of student increase, but not much as some may expect.

    For baseball, so so... Honestly there acutally are a good amount of UH Manoa students there. I see them sitting around the lower level right above the Rainbow dugout and all around the upper levels and it's mostly on Friday night games. Admission for UH students for UH baseball WAS 3.00 I think, so I expect some kind off increase as well, but considering the past few years, probably not much to notice as with football... unless football wins a lot.

    Warrior Volleyball may see an intersting spike in student attendance as well. We've seen some kind of attempted resurrection of the BOWZOS this past year and I think it will continue and FREE admission will help.

    As for UH Wahine basketball and Rainbow Wahine softball, both sports remain FREE for UH students. I don't know for sure about the DARK pre Dana Takahara-Dias era but last season it was free for UH students and softball was free for what seems like forever. I think that the "aura" of these two sports tends to limit themselves to UH student involvement, unless they are softball fans at heart or are friends with the players in some capacity.

    For softball, they will be riding a wave of popularity coming off a tremendous season and media exposure so I know attendance on average will be up right away.

    For Wahine basketball, I don't think they will see any effect of the free student admission.

    Getting back to the Stan Sheriff Center games, FREE admission should be used as a starting point for Rich Sheriff and those under his administration to take another review at how to successfully delegate how UH students are treated and for those in the athletic department who will decide on where the UH students will sit.

    There is a careful balance that must be kept between UH saying they want more student involvment without displacing or disrupting too many of the season ticket holders of the general Hawaii population that pay for premium seat contributions when they sit in the lower bowl because that is where the action is!

    Let's face the truth. Put students further away from the action and you've got NOTHING. If there is a way to provide extra room aside from the seats CONFINED behind the basket and service line where the students have been made to sit all these years, then perhaps UH will be getting somewhere.


  126. Kazz:

    As I just posted above, I feel that UH students should have seats as close to the action as much as possible.

    I have season tickets in the North end zone in the orange level and I will be GLAD if some of those seats will be extended for student use.


  127. Kazz:

    The person that told me that the DVD set of The Office Season 6 was on sale at Best Buy is a LIAR.

    Just wasted 20 minutes of my life.


  128. A-House:

    Mike & Amy:

    Who on upper campus is the "go-to-guy" when it comes to maintenance of grounds or buildings for upper campus?

    Who should be "dressed-down" for what is happening at upper campus?

    Who at upper campus is willing to start a drive to change how business is run up there?

    Is the BOR the place to start? Well crafted ideas supported by multiple, logical facts may go a long way in changing the mind set of upper campus.

    Does the majority of the faculty just "moan and groan", but sit on their laurels wishing things will change for the better without making a commitment?

    OR, is it so screwed up that nothing can be done to make changes? That's a terrifying thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  129. Old Diver:

    #122

    Student fees vs professors salaries etc. This is exactly what the big boys on Wall Street want. Fighting among the middle class. Wanna solve the problems with the University? Solve the problems with the economy. Not the borrow and spend ( false ) economy of the past thirty years, but a solid economy where we begin to build things in this country again. Sorry for the rant.


  130. A-House:

    Kazz:

    your #126 - Jim D will have to take a very hard look at where to put the students and not give up the $$$ paid by the general public for seats at Aloha Stadium or SSC or The Les.

    Students may moan and groan about their high tuition and fees, but they give little thought to the $$$ being poured into UH athletics by fans who support the majority of the primary sports. This could very well go into the high 4 figure amount or higher!!!!!!!


  131. madeinhawaii:

    I'd say that they have to get better at putting up some big noticeable signs on the community boards at UH just before the games with the times for p/u and location of buses and a contact number for more information. ALSO gotta have some athletes and student help walking around with signs and banners before games trying to make contact and a connection with the students. If they can bring in 20 more each week that snow balls.. 20 will bring in 20 more friends.. 40 will bring in 80...etc... it's like the pyramid marketing scheme.. everybody just gotta bring in two new bodies.


  132. madeinhawaii:

    Let's face it. It's all about self-promotion and self-preservation. Whichever department can do a better job at it reaps the majority of benefits. The rest get the some benefit in the fallout and side glances they might get. Instead of bashing the Athletic Department and the Fee, where were the picketers promoting and casting a positive light on their plight for improved/repaired facilities/smaller class sizes/etc? Again, an opportunity to be seen and heard, lost by being seen as whiners. Poor planning.. poor method of self-promotion.

    Hawaii didn't become the 50th State by bashing it's competitor, Alaska. It got there by hopping on the same bandwagon.


  133. Mike:

    And where does that promotion come from? UH Athletics has a staff and a budget to handle that. Academic departments rely on already overworked faculty/department heads to do that -- on their own time.

    Stating facts is not the same as whining, and it seems some of us need to be reminded that while collegiate sports are a great, unifying force, universities exist to educate not entertain.


  134. papajoe2:

    More people in the stands = more revenue at the concession booths. Food, drink, alcohol, apparel merchandise, you name it. More people will bring in more money even if it means free attendance for students. Too bad UH gets nothing at Aloha Stadium. Sharing profits (after expenses for running the stadium) with the tenants at Aloha Stadium, of which UH is a major tenant, would do UH good, bringing in a few needed $$$s.


  135. al:

    the attraction to free athletic events won't change cosmetically because they bought in. although i hope that they do.

    going back to attendance paid or not, high school or college most folks enjoy football, men's basketball, and in hawaii volleyball is number three. baseball ranks fifth. women's basketball and softball trail the big five. it is getting better, however, the latter two have not yet become spectator sports in the community as well as at the high school or college level.

    soccer may be the sixth most watched in the community since it has one of the highest participation levels for our youth.

    however, that is not to say they will get better. this past year's softball team electrified those in attendance and its play at csws will certainly light a fire. i hope that the team does as well as this year because we need consistent success to keep the turnstiles moving.

    men's basketball, i agree will see the most improvement in attendance by students because as a sport it is more popular and it is located on campus. and if our team lives up to its potential we will see overflow crowds as in the past.

    i hope that the aloha will be brimming with students.


  136. Mike:

    Hi A-House,

    The folks on upper campus beg, complain, grouse, throw up their hands much in the same way that those in the athletic department have, but their concerns aren't heard or received in the same way. Lots of fingers to point, if that's what people are interested in doing. Local media don't cover higher education much if at all, lawmakers have been chopping away at the UH budget for years, private businesses get more bang throwing their support behind the home teams than supporting the institution these teams supposedly represent, etc. Regardless, they struggle to make it with what they're given. That's why it was so aggravating to many on upper campus that a department that already gets disproportionate support was given an opportunity to get additional, targeted funding at the expense of the student body.

    People want to paint faculty as remote academics who sit in an ivory tower but the fact is, like many in the supposed "real world," they're people who bust their butts every day for more work and less pay and make huge sacrifices to give their students the education they deserve. People with decent-paying 9-5 jobs may think $50 is no big deal, but every semester I have students who run themselves ragged working two or three jobs and still have trouble buying all the books they need. And I'm far from being the only teacher who dips into my own wallet to buy required books or supplies for students who work hard but have to make decisions about whether to pay rent or buy a course reader.


  137. Kazz:

    Originally posted on Kaleo.org on 07/07/2010

    HITTING THE WEIGHTS INSTEAD OF THE BEACH
    by Mariana Monasi

    Rest is important when a collegiate athlete’s season comes to an end. But soon after school finishes, the summer grind begins.

    NCAA rules state that teams and its members can only meet and train up to 20 hours a week during the season and up to eight hours a week during the off-season.

    During the summer, those eight hours must be efficient. And despite school being done and the sun being out, most student-athletes trade in their slippers for cleats and their bathing suits for sports wear to make sure they are in the best shape they can be before their season starts up again.

    “Summer is obviously more crucial for football, women’s volleyball, women’s soccer and basketball,” said Kenneth Esquivel, a weight training coach for the University of Hawai‘i athletic teams. “The summer serves as their preseason training cycle since their sports participate in the fall.

    According to Esquivel, “(Spring) sports such as baseball, softball and men’s volleyball have just finished their season going into summer time ... . So this is their off-season, a time in which they need to rest both physically and mentally and after three weeks they can start building their training foundation.”

    Coaches and athletes also know the importance of training over the summer.

    “If we don’t put in the work during summer, that’s time lost for when fall comes around,” said Chelsea Deptula, a senior defender on the Rainbow Wahine soccer team. “We won’t be where we need to be when season starts. We should be in shape and ready to play as soon as summer is over.”

    Katie Wilson, a junior center on the Rainbow Wahine basketball team also said summer training is important.

    “It allows us to build our strength and endurance for the upcoming season,” Wilson said. “It gives us that one-up on the other schools within our conference who take the summer break. Hard work pays off and that’s what we are working towards.”

    KEY ELEMENTS

    Over the summer, soccer players won’t work on their vertical jumps like volleyball players, but there are some things every athlete can do to stay in shape.

    “Exercise often, eat right,” Esquivel said. “The summer time is a great opportunity to develop good habits that a student-athlete can carry over into the school year.”

    Esquivel said Olympic lifts and other exercises that incorporate multiple joints have the most benefit in the shortest amount of time when working out.

    “If we don’t kick around the soccer ball, we lose our touch on the ball and that’s a very important aspect in soccer,” said Deptula, who said running is the best way to stay in shape for the soccer season.

    “It is imperative that we pass our fitness tests and are ready to play (during fall training). If we don’t put in the work now, during summer, there isn’t enough time to get in shape and be fit for our games.”

    Wilson said over the summer, the basketball team plays pick-up games, works on fundamentals and does daily warm-ups, stretching, core exercises, plyometrics and cardio.

    Most athletes also take the time to nurse injuries during the off-season, like Wilson, who is rehabilitating her shoulder following surgery.

    “Being injured is both mentally and physically taxing. Many people don’t realize that surgery itself is not the worst part, it is the rehab for the eight to 10 months post-surgery,” said Wilson, who works one-on-one with a personal trainer for her shoulder.

    “Staying over the summer and working with our trainers was the best decision for me in particular,” Wilson continued. “It gives me a schedule and routine that will keep me on track to be back in time for season. Lifting and strengthening my shoulder every day will be very beneficial in order to prevent future injuries.”

    MOTIVATION

    You may wonder what motivates athletes to give up a large portion of their summers.

    “Strength and conditioning workouts are always better when you are with your teammates. It gives you that extra motivation and support,” Wilson said. “The motivation for summer workouts comes from the fact that if you put in the hard work now, it will pay off when season comes around.”

    Deptula said she is motivated because the team won the Western Athletic Conference in 2007.

    “Being a WAC champ, our soccer program has gotten stronger over the past years and I hope that this team can continue that legacy,” Deptula said.

    “Also, I stay motivated when I see progress in my team and myself for improvements on the field and in the weight room. This is what summer workouts are all about.”


  138. chawan_cut:

    kazz,
    usc's band always have and always will have that attitude problem. they think they're the it and it don't matter if they're at home or on the road. we'll see what they think when watching all the bowl games from the comfort of the living rooms this year. no free trips for you! have fun practicing your instruments by yourselves.


  139. jm2375:

    Good afternoon Tsaikos!

    I'm free! Vacation time! No work till August!! :D

    Mike - #138 - there's those faculty like you and there's those that have gotten tenure and have maxed out at Full Professor and are now just hanging around collecting their paychecks. It's not just a UH problem, it's a problem with whole tenure system. As someone who's held a faculty position (non-teaching), I agree that the lower ranks are underpaid and UH has a tough time recruiting faculty. You gotta spend money to make money. JABSOM brought in some highly paid faculty members because they could generate lots of $$$ from grants.

    We now return to your regular programming.


  140. A-House:

    Mike:

    One thing that always used to frustrate me when I was on campus was the constant change of books for classes by the profs/instructors.

    Does our world change so quickly in 6 months that history, speech, english, chemistry, etc. that new books are required? One upper classman said the profs require books that they had an interest in - research contribution, they get a commission for each book purchased, etc. I do not know if this is correct, but a Prof did indicated that she wanted a specific book because she would profit from it.

    Why can't books be used more than once? Create a special area/section to sell used books.

    Your thoughts?


  141. Pomai:

    I admit I don't know much about the hierarchy of the University so excuse me if these questions seem dumb.

    I take it that it is made up of the various colleges such as Arts & Sciences, Business
    Education, Engineering an so on. Now these are run by Deans for each one, so my first question is who do these deans report to, Hinshaw or Greenwood? Now within each college you have different departments which are run by department heads who I assume reports to the deans.


  142. jm2375:

    Pomai - the deans report to Hinshaw, Hinshaw and the other Chancellors report to Greenwood.

    A-house - I once took a graduate class at UH that required me to buy a $70 book (15+ years ago) and we used exactly *ONE* chapter. The more specialized the book, the more expensive. Am now having to buy books for Screecher (new name for da keed) for high school. Luckily, we've been buying the really expensive ones (a few are over $100) used from friends. I buy the others off Amazon.


  143. Slugger:

    Pomai,

    Here you go:

    http://www.manoa.hawaii.edu/ovcafo/neworg_charts/index.html


  144. A-House:

    WassupDoc:

    Can you educate me on UH's CIP? What does this "octupus" consist of? How does it work? How is it funded? Who decides what projects gets first divs? Is it better to get many small things done and then work on the biggies?

    Is building maintenance and grounds maintenance part of this monster? Can it be detached from it? Who has the authority to make this type of changes?

    In the summer of '64, I was part of the grounds crew and we did all sorts of repairs as well as keeping the grounds clean, watered, fertilized, etc. Why can't volunteer groups, guided by professionals, (all volunteers) keep the grounds "manicured"? A well defined plan can be created that will involve all facets of the "grounds" and it can be scheduled so it becomes a constant value. The lower campus clean up is a good example, but it should have been more widely publicized to secure more worker bees. And, it should be at a minimum, a quarterly event rather than annual to keep the entrire area sparkling. Yes, I realize the question of "liability' crops up, but forms can be signed waiving all liability to UH. Will this be an avenue where the general "public" can be involved to imporve UH and create a favorable impression to all who visit and attend school? Volunteers (friends, students, alumni), but main thing is they want to help and make UH a better place.


  145. A-House:

    Slugger:

    I viewed the "organization chart" and I got dizzy with the thought of what the hell is all that gibberish - seems like every one is out to get their piece of the pie and hell with the rest!!

    The military had "org charts", but it was simpler and everyone knew that the Commander had the final say. May be true for UH, but it seems like too many strings that go every where each being pulled in opposite directions rather than a single purpose. In the military, all the strings had better be pulled in a single direction or else!!!!!!!!!


  146. Slugger:

    A-House,

    Here's a list for you:

    http://www.hawaii.edu/oci/forms/BOR_Budget_PriorityProjectList_2008-10-10.pdf


  147. madeinhawaii:

    chawan-cut..

    Too bad we can't have the Pearl City High School or Kamehameha High School Marching Band play next to them, eh? Let them lose face to a couple of high school bands on National TV... hee hee..

    Mike,

    As a former educator (English) I feel for you. I left Hawaii in 84 because I didn't feel there was enough support and progress in Education and wanted to look elsewhere. Too much status quo that it was stifling. In 86, I found my way to Japan and remained there to 94. I came back, looked at the education scene and saw that it had gotten worse. Status quo meant not changing with the times, not keeping abreast. The DOE had fallen too far behind and the money and support to rectify this wasn't coming.

    Let's face it. The real world situation is that, unless you have big hearted donors in your alumni, you need to find your own way to promote to stay alive. Today's political environment in Hawaii does NOT favor education. It hasn't since Governor Burns left office. So, each department will have to find those hearts and find ways to get them to contribute more. Apply for grants. Lobby the politicians. Look for jobs elsewhere like I did. Initiate more press releases. Or, maybe use the strongest weapon .... embarrassment... Embarrass the State and things tend to get done... like when Colt spoke up about the lack of soap.

    Life isn't fair.

    You have to make your own inroads if you want more than a handout. My wife and I are reminded of that every day as self-employed people just barely eking a living. Everyday we wake up unemployed...we remain unemployed until we make as sale. If we want more for our work or more money, we have to make changes. We can charge more but no one will buy if we overprice our services. We could try to negotiate a better percentage from the galleries --fat chance unless we become really famous first. Or we can rattle the status quo in how we do business and come up with something new..a new presentation, something nouvelle, and interesting. Then we can charge as we please for that. For us, at least, the latter always seems to work better than the former.


  148. Pomai:

    Thanks Slugger, now if I read these charts correctly JD is the equivalent to a college dean not a department head. The way I see it the Athletics department could be considered on the same par as say the college of law or medicine, in that they have a number of programs(departments) that teaches students sports.


  149. al:

    maui report...

    nanook is chasing steelheads, silvers, and kings. stopping for an occasional dungeness along the way. darkside business is in a slump.

    duffer continues to be the sole state worker in the office on a furlough friday.

    jack's inn pork cutlet with gravy n onions was ono and plenny.


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  151. Slugger:

    oooohhhhh, I want some king or silver salmon...yum, dungeness...Hope nanook is having fun!

    guri guri?


  152. Slugger:

    All of these suggestions remind me of the blind men & the elephant. Everyone is seeing the problem and making suggestions based upon what they know, their own experience. It would help to understand the entire animal.

    But I would think that if you have a constructive suggestion, someone might be interested in hearing it. They may not use the suggestion in its entirety or even a part of it, but it may trigger another idea that would work for the organization.


  153. madeinhawaii:

    And all I got here.. is clam chowder... with scallops... squid... sigh...


  154. A-House:

    Slugger:

    thanks for the CIP info, but without "ledgends" I have no idea what most of it means.

    i understand it is prioiritized, but some of the "general" topics don't mean doots; ie, what the heck is Capital Renewal?


  155. A-House:

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  156. madeinhawaii:

    Slugger..

    What it boils down to is that all of us try to get our finances in order in the best way we know how. All the Athletic Department did was go about it the same way as just about every other institution has and kudos for them for getting it done this time. Every department will have to find their way. It's just how it is. You chose your profession and you learn to deal with it's up and downs passively or outspokenly. But stepping on someone else's toes to get what you want is probably not the best way to go about it. Resentment does not win support.


  157. Garret:

    Mike,

    I was a professor for 7 years and taught 14 different Engineering classes, 8 of which I created myself because the subject matter had never been taught before at Santa Clara University (things like Wireless LANs when WiFi was new, etc.). In those 7 years, I changed the book that I used *zero* times and I made sure that the adjunct professors I hired to teach classes that I created didn't change the book either. The bookstore carried used books and the students passed down their books to take care of the used book business themselves. The only time the book changed was when a new edition came out and the old edition wasn't available. Often times *no* book was useful because the subject matter was too new so I passed out my material for the class myself for free.

    I taught one graduate class where the *only* book that existed on the subject was a book that I wrote. However, I refused to require my book for the class since the book company charged a crazy $140 for the book. So, I passed out notes for what the students needed to know and told everybody *not to buy my book*. I would have made quite a bit of money if I had required the students to buy a book (since I got a percentage of the price), but the publisher refused to lower the price so I refused to have my students buy it...industry people bought enough of them that we had a 3rd printing run just 3 years after it was first printed.

    The crazy thing is that the publisher sold my book in Taiwan for less than half it cost in the US! So, a Taiwan University required my book for a class and I did not. Publishers know that there is a HIGH rate of book pirating in Asia, so they sell softcover versions for a fraction of the US hardcover price so that people will buy legit copies.


  158. Garret:

    Sol Elimimian had 6 tackles in his CFL game today, tied for 2nd highest tackles for his team.


  159. Pomai:

    Garret you need to go to reardons column an explain to him that UHAD is not getting any of the new fee.


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  167. Garret:

    Pomai,

    Technicall, UHAD *is* getting 85% or so of the athletic fee. However, UHAD has a $2 million annual deficit and a $10 million total deficit, so there is no new money to spend even after the athletic fee. UHAD will look better on the accounting ledger after the athletic fee...that is nice, but I wish that some of that money could be used for upgraded recruiting budgets or facility improvements.


  168. Garret:

    The first word should be "Technically"...I left out the y.


  169. papajoe2:

    A letter to Mike.
    Hi Mike,
    I am a UH system drop out who has a lifelong love of sports, especially for the Rainbows, Rainbow Warriors, Warriors, Wahine, Na Wahine. I'm 57 years old and yet can still remember the names of the Rainbows like Ellis Price, Sleepy Simon, Lucky Smith, Levi Stanley, McKinley Reynolds, Larry Arnold, Tim Feigh, Steve Lehor, and many, many more of the older Rainbows. I went to the Hawaii Islander baseball games at Honolulu Stadium as a member of Reggie's Knothole gang. I've been played and am or was coaching kids in several sports for over 22 years. Although dropping out of college was one of my biggest regrets, at the time, there was the Viet Nam war. I had a draft number of 43 and was ordered to have a physical exam at Fort Derussy. Tricky Dickie (Nixon) abolished the draft before I was inducted. I realized that I wanted to work outdoors and with my hands so I left school. Because of my dropping out, through my coaching endeavors, I have directly or indirectly convinced well over a dozen students, maybe 2 or 3, to attend college. A lot of them chose the University of Hawaii, including my daughter and son. Some of them even played sports at UH. While coaching a team of mostly high school seniors and a few juniors, I invited a friend on mine who coached at a D1, California University to come to my practice to talk to my players about attending college, what needs to be done to get enrolled and noticed by colleges and what to expect once they were there and to answer any and all questions asked by my players. At the start of practice at 4:30 pm, only 4 players were there. 2 more came later. I was furious at my players and embarrassed by the lack of attendance by my team. I started to chew them out about commitment and my embarrassing position not only for myself, but also for having a college coach taking the time for them and they didn't even show. Needless to say, we didn't practice that day, but the coach did tell the ones that came about college life, different avenues to a get a degree in certain fields, etc.. After practice, my wife and I took the coach out to dinner and also went on a surprise visit to one of the school's incoming recruits who lived in the area. The coach pulled me on the side and told me she knew that I was embarrassed and furious with my team, but she said that "I was chewing out the girls that were there, not the ones that didn't show." It made me take a step back and reevaluate my psychological approach to coaching. I've been even more successful in coaching now then I've ever been. Why am I telling you all of this? As a UH sports fan, I was extremely happy that the BOR voted for the $50 per semester fee. I do know that the upper campus is lacking BIG TIME. What the BOR did was just "keeping up with the Joneses." If we do have sports at UH, then we should at least be competitive with our conference and play on a level field. I we could take a poll of the Tsakos or other people on this blog, while sympathizing with the upper campus, I'm sure the vote would be overwhelming in favor of passing the fee. Why, should that be, you ask? Because this blog is what it is....A WARRIOR SPORTS BLOG. Maybe you should take a step back like I did and vent your frustration somewhere it would be felt the most. The sports fans on this blog likes sports. Sure a whole bunch of them are graduates of UH and current students of UH, but its still a Warrior SPORTS blog. Mike, please don't take this the wrong way as I truly support the upper campus and what is needed for them. I don't get to the University much, so I was appalled at the Colt Brennan "no soap" incident. As a non student and a daughter that graduated from UH, I did not know about the deplorable conditions there. I'm sure most the people on this blog know about the conditions of the school, but again, this is a sports blog. I'm sure that some of the people on this blog is willing to help out with the upper campus shortfalls, but maybe this is not the place to protest. We got Jim Donovan to run the athletic department and he is doing what he can so that it can be successful. I wasn't sure Gib Arnold was the right man for the basketball coach, but seeing what he is doing, I'm getting excited about the basketball program again. JD seems to be doing a great job.You need leaders in the upper campus, like Jim Donovan, that can get the job that he or she was hired for, done. Good luck Mike, as the University of Hawaii is our whole state's University and it is an educational entity.

    Aloha,
    Papajoe2


  170. papajoe2:

    mih #147, I don't know what kind of business you have, but I did hear of the coffee wagon across the prison that has beautiful women in thong bikinis working there. Never been there but heard the place was busy. I don't know if the coffee is any good though.

    Garret #162, will the babies still be called twins?

    #165, sounds like the sugar that was grown in Hawaii, taken to California to be processed and bagged and sold back in Hawaii at higher prices than on the mainland.


  171. al:

    slugger...suprisingly passed up on the guri guri. this time. but, i did have an orange freeze at ihop.


  172. Hilo Moon:

    While watching Northern Iowa beat among others, our Wahine Softball, it dawned on me that
    there may be a a connection between the late Stan Sheriff and U. of Northern Iowa. Am I correct?

    By the way, Majam and J-Rod, and Mrs. Coolen looked really pretty, Oh ... Coach Coolen, too!


  173. Slugger:

    Wow! Great game for Sol! So happy for him.


  174. Hilo Moon:

    Sorry -- I was taslking about the Espys in #172.


  175. Slugger:

    Hilo Moon,

    Yes. Someone made that connection on Wednesday's blog.


  176. papajoe2:

    Hilo Moon, Not sure of the history of Stan Sheriff but he was at Northern Iowa before he came to UH. Not sure if he was the AD there though.


  177. Pauoa Boy:

    I'm with you on that one Hilo Moon, I thought Kelly Majam looked good all dolled up for the ESPY's, its pretty rare seeing the wahine strutting their stuff looking like that all the time...


  178. Lux Painter:

    Everyone should realize that there are problems at UH - as does every other learning institutions in the world.

    Where does the UH get its money? From the taxpayer via the legislature. Tuition only pays a small segment.

    So what should the legislature do - besides raise their salary and percentage for their retirement - do people realize that the legislature/top executive/judges get a bigger percentage towards their retirement than the worker bee government worker?

    The legislature should allocate more moneys to the University. How does one do it in these tough economic times? The first step probably is to raise taxes.

    Oh horrors! How does one get re-elected if we raise taxes? And so they slink away.

    I wonder if we realize that our sales tax is one of the lowest in the Nation?
    New York, for example, has a sales tax almost 2x ours. The individual counties have a tax as well, not to mention the various municipalities.

    An increase of .5% or 1% in our sales tax would generate a lot of loose change for our university. Perhaps those legislators who inspected the UH in the aftermath of Colt Brennan's soap controversy should show some profile in courage instead of just showing profile for the TV cameras.

    Perhaps they might also see that jobs can be created by just repairing and upgrading the facilities.


  179. Pauoa Boy:

    So what branch of service is Pa'aluhi deciding to go into??? I would've liked to see him in a Warrior uniform but I can appreciate someone who puts his family first and takes care of his priorities. I know he can still play ball while in the service although special forces will take up most of his time, training and more training. Good luck to him and his fam...

    Masoli...another sad case of a talented guy going to waste, SMH


  180. Pauoa Boy:

    Glad to hear my boy Chad Owens is still beastin on the football field up in the CFL. Being named the CFL special teams player of the week only proves that he still got it and belongs back in the league. I hope soon someone will bring him back to the NFL where he belongs...


  181. LizKauai [iMac] \m/:

    Yea, Solly- way to go!

    Garret- my youngest grandchildren are twins born 2 years apart.

    :-)


  182. SteveM:

    RE: #151
    Slugger want salmon and crab? As a non-seafood eater, I am, of course, surrounded by it. Then I'm heading up whitey's way, although we miss each other by a couple days. Al's pork cutlet (#149) sure sounds good...

    Good night from Seattle!


  183. papajoe2:

    LizK #181, now you really got me confused.


  184. Slugger:

    SteveM,

    One of the best steaks I've had was in Sitka, but I don't think you're stopping in that port.


  185. al:

    stevem...yup gout lover's delight. must have served at least four hand sized pork cutlets with the crispy breading and perfectly pan fried handful of thinly sliced maui onons with a "better than rainbow drive inn" brown gravy. of course two huge scoops of rice and niblet corn and head cabbage (yes, an odd couple but went down quite well). they also served us two hupe scoops of macaroni salad on a separate salad plate.

    and to think whitey goes there for saimin, the, er, breakfast of champions.


  186. Slugger:

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  188. papajoe2:

    al, where dat? Maui? I'm going their next week.


  189. al:

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  190. al:

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  191. al:

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    what days you coming up? i might have to go back. maybe can make small kine cc.

    then again i may have to go to kona instead.


  192. al:

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  193. papajoe2:

    I'll be there with my wife on the 25 & 26 for our 32nd, or around, there anniversary. Will be staying at the Kaanapali Shores. My wife won the stay in a contest.


  194. madeinhawaii:

    papajoe2,

    I came up with a couple of personal care products that I market through a shop in Waikiki. Then I met my wife who wanted to try her hand at professional photography (landscape and nature), so 5 years ago, we started that business. Then we found out that we couldn't get good koa frames at reasonable prices, reasonably fast so I started making Koa frames soon after. Then we realized six months ago that in order to take our work to the next level we would need over 10 thousand dollars in camera, lighting and printing equipment, so I invested a thousand and started buying and reselling online ... six months later, we've almost got all that we need ...

    Now about those young ladies on Puuhale and Nimitz.. I haven't had the opportunity yet.. but when I do need a cup of coffee the next time I'm in the area to pick up mat boards and koa wood....


  195. madeinhawaii:

    Or was it Puuhale and Dillingham? Kalihi and Dillingham? Nimitz.. ahh shoots.. someplace like dat...


  196. madeinhawaii:

    Just gotta look for the lunch wagon with longest line, eh?


  197. papajoe2:

    mih, If you know the location, you must have heard about them too. Maybe you should photograph the girls in the wagon. Just joking! have a good night's sleep everybody.


  198. al:

    okay...now you believe me that we had another scholie to give.

    here's the new dude....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ4m_XtWhE4


  199. al:

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    cuz he runs like a bull in a china shop.


  200. al:

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    On that note, I hope everyone has a Supah Saturday! As for me, I'll be enjoying another island tradition, the hs graduation party. This one is scheduled for Bellow's beach. I hope the Marines don't just happen to roll over party central in their
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