Green day

November 29th, 2010
By

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After rushing for a school-record 327 yards in a 59-24 victory over New Mexico State, Alex Green today was named the WAC's Offensive Player of the Week.

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In case you were wondering, the Warriors' (co-)WAC championship rings and assistant coaches' bonuses will come out of the payment UH will receive for playing in the Dec. 24 Hawaii Bowl. 

 UH will net about $400,000 for participating in the bowl — $375,000 in guaranteed pay, $25,000 for a bonus for  selling tickets. 

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TCU is going to the Big East in all sports. Hmmm. If UH's deal with the MWC is finalized, the MWC will have 10 football members in 2012. Should UH now seek to bring all of its sports to the MWC?

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There would be a little more empathy for Boise State if head coach Chris Petersen didn't say stuff like this: 

"The only thing I think is we're still going to a better league than we're in right now. And that's no disrespect to anybody."

But it does sound disrespectful. Never got the feeling Boise State was representing the WAC during its BCS quest. Which is why it didn't sound like many WAC members were rooting for them. For instance, Idaho has to feel snubbed because Boise doesn't want to continue the series after 1012 and, if the teams meet, the Broncos don't want to play in Moscow. But don't feel too bad for the WAC teams. Each receives $150,000 as part of the don't-sue-us payoff for non-AQ leagues that don't play in BCS games.

469 Responses to “Green day”

  1. Last Call:

    I could have been 1st


  2. Stretch:

    Congratulations Alex, the OLine, and the entire Offense!!


  3. Last Call:

    Oh wait I am 1 st. Now if only there was a prize.


  4. Last Call:

    Hot Topic. TUC accepts Big East invite.


  5. duffer:

    GOOD MORNING TSAIKOS!

    Congrats to AG and the O line!


  6. Last Call:

    Yes I know, I meant TCU .


  7. haka:

    WAC Champs!
    Hybrid Offense - Go Green!
    Go Warriors!
    Go Wahine!


  8. gigi-hawaii:

    Hi, ST and Tsaikos!

    Congrats to Alex Green!

    I am not sure about the wisdom of adding the rest of the UH sports to the MWC. Think of the savings when we play only in California.

    Hope everything happens to benefit UH, ultimately.


  9. NYUH:

    OK, Hawaii can move on now that they are WAC Champs. Still hope they can create a Pacific division so that everyone on the Left coast doesn't have to travel to the mountains all the time.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/529079-bcs-rankings-week-14-who-got-screwed-in-the-seventh-bcs-poll#page/4

    Hawaii gets a nice mention here. Time to play up a top 25 ranking next year.


  10. Last Call:

    The Big West is the best move for the rest of our teams. I'm already drooling over the travel situation.


  11. Michigan Warrior:

    Gratz to Green on Player of the Week, and again to our Warriors on at least WAC Co-Champs!


  12. Slugger:

    Good morning!!!

    Big congrats to Alex Green, Salas, Scotty Enos & da team!


  13. NYUH:

    The 12-Pac

    humorous look at the new Pac-10

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/426034-pac-10-renamed-pac-12-comparing-each-football-program-to-12-pac-of-beer#page/1


  14. Kazz via DROID.X:

    UH RAINBOWTIQUE ALOHA STADIUM TENTS SHOULD HAVE WAC CHAMP SHIRTS BY THIS SATURDAY.


  15. NYUH:

    ST: Why don't you mention the other winners? It would be good to compare and grip about the other winners of the WAC awards.

    Congrats to Alex Green though. Some nice OL blocking but real power and ability to break tackles on Green's part as well. Question: What would have happened if UH didn't adapt the pistol?


  16. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good Morning Gangeez! :)

    Top Twenny!

    Good for Alex Green! The big guys up front share that award with him!


  17. papajoe2:

    whooo hoooo! Top 20. I beat the Warriors # 25.


  18. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Three WAC teams in the AP Top 25. Look out MWC, here we come!


  19. d1島:

    Great Morning All!

    Congratulations Alex Green! :mrgreen:


  20. d1島:

    Hey DPK! Look, us two stay in the ST Top 25!


  21. d1島:

    Stephen,

    How does that extra $25k come about for "selling tickets"?


  22. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    I'd like to thank my parents, my coaches, the O-line...


  23. Garret:

    Congratulations to Alex Green for his well-deserved honor! It is interesting that Nevada's Rishard Matthews won 2 national offensive player of the week honors but did not win the WAC award. Green had tough competition because Matthews caught 10 passes for 172 yards, with the TD catch with 13 seconds left in regulation to send the game to overtime. Matthews also had a 44-yard rushing TD.


  24. dptwarrior13:

    top 25 first time ever


  25. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Keep the votes coming folks! Alex Green is now a close second!

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup

    VOTE GREEN! VOTE GREEN! VOTE GREEN! VOTE GREEN! VOTE GREEN!


  26. Garret:

    My old comment is awaiting moderation, so I'm going to put a space in the word that is causing the problem.

    NYUH,

    Fresno State linebacker Travis Brown won the WAC Defensive Player of the Week and Louisiana Tech return specia list Phillip Livas won the Special Teams Player of the Week.

    Brown had 5 tackles and intercepted a pass and returned it for a TD. His TD came when the score was just 6-0, so that was a crucial point in the game...and his team won by just 3 points.

    Livas returned a punt for 88 yards and a TD, tying an NCAA record for career returns for a TD (8 TD returns). He had 3 punt returns for 103 yards and a kickoff return for 27 yards.


  27. CoolEthan:

    Right on, Right on Mr. Green. Congrats.

    You know, I was wondering if the WAC selection commitee was gonna select Vai Taua as Offense pow, just because, well, you know why.

    But this is the trump of all trumps, in your face Nevada. Mr. Green gonna keep taking to the house next week, then 2 weeks after that too!


  28. CoolEthan:

    Funny how no mention of Nevada players with WAC awards.


  29. Shoko:

    I prefer the Run & Shoot Plus offense rather than the kiwi or whatever it was called. Grats to Green, he played like a beast!


  30. dennis halloran:

    In three years a lot of these conference changes will unwind IMO
    Geography will rear its ugly head


  31. greenthumb:

    #25 DPK, I voted yesterday and went back today and all I see is the graph, not a chance to vote. Suggestions? Thanks.


  32. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsai-kos!

    Congrats to Alex Green!

    So, TCU to Big East in all sports? As a fan of a Big East bb team, 17 teams in bb? Really? I thought 16 was kinda unwieldy. Sheeesh.

    ST - BC calling for your "man card" for going to Wal-Mart on Thanksgiving night. :lol:


  33. Garret:

    I wonder if the Big East would invite Central Florida to be a football-only member (they have already said they would accept that) and invite a Texas school (Houston or SMU) to be a travel partner for TCU? That would give the Big East 12 football schools and 18 basketball schools. That actually would make sense to me...


  34. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    greenthumb -

    It let me vote today, and I voted yesterday as well. You might try clearing your cookies and see what happens. If not, voting might be pau. Thanks for your vote.


  35. Pomai:

    If the MWC expands to 12 teams and form two divisions east and west should we try to move all sports to the MWC west?


  36. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    How about that Green?!!! VOTE and VOTE OFTEN!


  37. Pomai:

    greenthumb clean out all of your history and cookies after you vote and you can vote as many times as you like.


  38. Garret:

    The first 2010 All-America team has been released. The American Football Coaches Association has selected All-America teams since 1945...no WAC players made their first team (they only pick a first team apparently) but 2 MWC and 1 C-USA player did.

    http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=205038263


  39. Garret:

    Why do the D-IA coaches vote for an All-America team before the regular season is even over?


  40. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    How much of us going to the MWC depends on them finding 2 additional schools to make 12?

    Doesn't a 9 team conference sound better than a 10 team scheduling wise?

    Should we try and force MWC's hand and have them come out with the invite now with the departure of TCU?...MWC fans might be brewing for quick and decisive response to them leaving. If anything the Hawaii press conference would have made more sense this evening.

    With Nevada, Boise, in top 25, AF, sdsu getting decent top 35 rankings I am afraid that MWC might want to just consider staying at 9 and building that foundation first if they can't find 2 viable teams to make 12 with Hawaii....


  41. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Hindsight is 20/20 but instead of having the pressure put on MWC to get their junk together, the pressure is on Hawaii to deliver what was kinda promised.

    I guess no one could know for sure that TCU would leave but the writing was on the wall.

    Had we announced our discussions with MWC tonight (after TCU announcement) we could "negotiate" a very tempting deal with the WAC, have Benson announce that deal and put MWC schools in a position to make sure they do not lose Hawaii.

    oh wells whos to say that would have been the case either.


  42. Shoko:

    I usually clear my cookies after I toss them for awhile. Only question is how do I do it on my computer. I have a bad memory with passwords and fear I might lose them. :)


  43. NYUH:

    Thanks Garret,

    I'm sure the WAC doesn't want to leave out Hawaii. Plus it was an awesome performance on Green's part.


  44. Old Diver:

    Garret,

    Are there any teams in the west that would enhance the MWC besides the four WAC schools who will be joining the MWC over the next two years?


  45. jojo ®:

    HI LOA!!!

    yo happy Monday!


  46. Pomai:

    Shoko you should never and I say never keep your passwords on your computer, you could get hacked and then they would have all your passwords. You should try to keep as much personal info off your computer or at least put them on a removable flash drive.


  47. Last Call:

    I'm betting Thompson already had a plan in anticipation of TCU leaving. Love him or hate him this guy is no Karl Benson.


  48. Pomai:

    Garret when we do get the invite to the MWC for football only could there be some kind of clause that says that after the last two years in the WAC we could revisit the idea of being a full member. Just thinking of we have top 20 teams in other sports would that be enough to get us a full membership?


  49. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    With TCU gone, how does that affect the probability of the MWC gaining AQ status?

    I've read it diminishes the chances quite a bit, especially for the 2012 evaluations.

    Nevada
    Boise
    Fresno
    Hawaii
    AF
    SDSU
    UNLV
    SMU
    Tulsa

    I mean only a "wishful" thought but doesn't this combination of teams seem reasonable and gives a better chance for AQ status at some point seeing how well most of these schools are doing.

    or

    Boise
    Nevada
    Fresno
    Hawaii
    SDSU
    UNLV
    BYU
    Utah St.

    At 8 teams doesn't the BCS give that 15% bonus points for AQ status or something?

    I mean not that BYU would consider this over going independent but what if ESPN was in the mix and the conference decided that BYU would get a bigger piece of the TV pie plus they could sell their own rights like we do with k5.

    grrrrrrr.


  50. Pomai:

    Last Call spot on with that, to bad he is not the WAC comish.


  51. UHfan808:

    A very happy good morning, Tsaikos and Tsaikettes, Lurkers and Lurkettes!!!

    After having been thot and predicted to finish somewhere not at the top of the WAC conference, sure feels good to see our Warrior Team rise above and brainstorm how to unselfishly utilize their existing talents in order to get the job done.

    Thrilled and happy to see recognition in the polls but what makes me happiest is seeing their increased confidence in knowing to keep trying no matter what anyone is saying or has said.

    Thank you UH admin, coaches, trainers, and players for your terrific team effort and for producing a more than positive and exciting football season!! Please keep up the improvements and keep going in this same direction, I am sure enjoying seeing the results of your hard work and extensive planning!!


  52. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    tcu vs. rutgers....

    yeah as much as im in new jersey visiting my grandma, don't think i'd ever spend 2 quarters to watch that game.


  53. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    how many of you think its WACky to see that WAC commercial with all the coaches talking about the WAC's 'play-up' and thinks it should be 'play-up while it lasts' instead? lol


  54. Kazz via DROID.X:

    Well, this should expedite our negotiations with the MWC.

    The heart says we should negotiate a full membership with but MWC, but the mind and the checkbook prefer the Big West.


  55. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Maybe Garret could answer this but is there any way in hell that CSUF, UNR, Hawaii can get into MWC for 2011?

    If TCU is taking all of its "data" with them to BE for the AQ evaluations then MWC is in no way getting AQ in 2012.

    BUT, if we get in for 2011 we can use Nevada and Hawaii for this year and next correct?


  56. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Kazz,

    The mind should say we need to find a way for Hawaii UNR, CSUF to all leave the MWC effective next year.

    If its for the sake of AQ status then the old saying about a bird in hand is worth....

    No one can speculate how good UNR, CSUF, HI is going to be for the 2012-2015 AQ eval period....But we do know how good they are now, today, this year.


  57. HawaiiMongoose:

    Official TCU to Big East announcement:

    http://gofrogs.cstv.com/genrel/112910aaa.html


  58. mctruck:

    With the departure of the big three,(utah, byu, tcu), gone....it'll be like the ol'wac gang again...providing UH get's that invite for football only.

    I'm with the other bloggers who feel BW-other sports, and MWC for footbal only.

    Wouldn't it be a laugh if the MWC will move to parlay a deal for UH in all sports with NO travel subsidies???


  59. labrat:

    Congrats Alex Green.


  60. labrat:

    So TCU gains more tv exposure?


  61. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    labrat,

    yes, A LOT more TV exposure.


  62. labrat:

    Going to the mWC seems to be a lateral move.


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  64. jm2375:

    Just a thought from a clueless wahine - if the SEC says they're beating up on each other week after week, then why do they have 10 bowl-eligible teams?


  65. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    labrat,

    yep although the bottom dwellers of the MWC are far superior to the ones in the WAC in both competitiveness and tv market.

    Conference XYZ:
    Boise
    Nevada
    Fresno
    Hawaii
    SDSU
    UNLV
    BYU
    Utah St.

    WAC/MWC whatever you wanna call it
    Idaho
    San Jose
    LaTech (probably leave for CUSA if Big east raids a team from there)
    NMSU
    UNM
    UWy
    CSU
    AF
    UTSA
    TSU

    (If LaTech leaves that makes 9)

    Why isn't this workable?


  66. jm2375:

    Sorta off-topic - I just found a radio app for my phone that picks up 1420am. Any chance I can listen to the game at the Stadium considering I have AT&T?


  67. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    jm2375,

    because they win every OOC game they schedule...they are that good.


  68. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #65,

    also consider doing, since BYU isn't a probably pick.

    Boise
    UNR
    CSUF
    HI
    SDSU
    UNLV
    Utah St.
    AF
    CSU


  69. mctruck:

    Browsing scoutdotcom the other day....looks like UH has offered to a couple JC-rb's with speed and heft, ala-Green...just not as tall though.


  70. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    If Boise, UNR, CSUF, HI, UNLV, Utah St. got together and offered the others this membership scenario.....would they automatically say no?

    What choices would they have knowing that their conference can't really go picking up teams unless they REALLY want to be the a little sister of the poor.


  71. labrat:

    I like conferemce XYZ.


  72. Old Diver:

    jm2375

    The espn 1420 app is delayed by a few seconds. It worked great when I was in San Diego and had to listen to the Utah State game on my iphone.


  73. madeinhawaii:

    RE: Voting for Alex Green

    You need to clear cookies to vote for Alex Green more than once.


  74. jm2375:

    iwwthm - they win every OOC game cuz they schedule the "Little Sisters of the Poor" :twisted:


  75. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    KEEP VOTING FOR GREEN!

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup

    It's a horserace between him and the reciever dude from who cares where!


  76. Last Call:

    I'm always amused by the different conference scenarios that the fans come up with .


  77. labrat:

    mih I tried that but I have noticed that the vote count doesn't change when I do.


  78. d1島:

    jmxxxx,

    If the crowd at the stadium is anywhere near 30k+ I'd say, "Fuggedaboudit"

    the AT&T network will be overwhelmed around Halawa.

    Mo bettah jus' bring da rayjo!


  79. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    labrat,

    me 2, but seeing that BYU has made up its mind...is my #68 still a pretty good deal?

    "the partners" = CSUF-SDSU, AF-CSU, UNLV-UNR, Utah ST-BSU


  80. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    jm2375,

    lol compared to most of the sec, most schools are the LSOTP...lol...jk


  81. Old Diver:

    Labrat,

    The vote count and percentage is delayed.


  82. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    last call,

    do you think the scenario in #65 or #68 is reasonable? doable? from the perspective of getting the most competitive teams together.


  83. d1島:

    Anyone know "who's up" for presenting at Na Koa?


  84. Garret:

    iwonderwhytheyhateme,

    The MWC is *not* going to kick out any of their current members. That has been brought up over the years when they have been striving for AQ status and they have clearly said NO to it. UH isn't even a member yet and you wish to kick out some of the schools that have to vote to let UH join the MWC?


  85. Garret:

    Before I see this posted too many times (the media even gets it wrong, such as in that fanhouse article), TCU will count for the *MWC* in the 2008-2011 BCS evaluation period. TCU will be a MWC member until June 30, 2012. The conference that a school is in on December 4, 2011 will determine which conference they count for the 2008-2011 BCS evaluation period.

    Utah and BYU are not playing in the MWC in 2011 so they won't count for them.

    BSU *is* playing in the MWC in 2011 so they will count for them.

    TCU *is* playing in the MWC in 2011 so they will count for them.

    UH/Nevada/Fresno are playing in the WAC in 2011 so they will count for the WAC.


  86. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Garret,

    Never said anything about anyone kicking any team out of any conference.

    Just as MWC formed from the old WAC what is to stop BSU, CSUF, HI, Utah St. and UNLV to go into some airport lounge and discuss a new conference made up of those additional MWC members?

    What's to stop what already had been done in the past? The difficulty of finding a new name for a conference?


  87. Bulla:

    GO WARRIORS


  88. Garret:

    From the BCS's website, the Big East doesn't have to worry about this evaluation period. The Big East was NOT worried about losing AQ status (they were the #2 conference in the BCS standings last year and have been above the Pac-10 every year for the past 3 years so one bad year means nothing), but they *are* looking to get more money from ESPN from their current TV negotiations.

    Under the terms of the agreements with the bowls and television rightsholder, the ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 and SEC will have annual automatic qualification for their champions for the 2010-11, 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons.

    http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=5126859


  89. Zo:

    Here's an article in the New York Times that says that TCU's 2010 numbers will count for both the Big East and the Mountain West Conference.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/sports/ncaafootball/30tcu.html


  90. jm2375:

    d1 - no mo AM rayjio!


  91. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Garret,

    Is the Fanhouse article wrongly quoting the data moving with Big East or is the Executive Director of the BCS Bill Hancock wrong?


  92. Garret:

    iwonderwhytheyhateme,

    The NCAA has set new requirements that makes it *much* more difficult to create a conference from scratch. The MWC has a lot of NCAA basketball credits also. The new conference won't get the millions guaranteed that the MWC gets no matter if they have a team in a BCS game or not.

    The WAC tried to get UNLV and they were rejected--look at the e-mails released between Nevada, Utah State, and Karl Benson that discussed that well before Nevada was invited to the MWC. *None* of the MWC teams are going to leave to join with WAC teams.

    You are talking about downgrading the conference for some current MWC members. The MWC has explicitly said that isn't going to happen. Do you realize that Wyoming beat Fresno State in a bowl game less than a year ago? Or how much money New Mexico brings to the MWC via basketball? Or how Air Force BLOWS AWAY *UH* in this BCS evaluation period?

    I hate to be so negative, but suggesting that the MWC leave out some of their current members just isn't going to happen.


  93. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #85, Garret,

    Actually you are right. Its more beneficial for Hawaii to get into the MWC first THEN pull a Tojo on the MWC like the pre-MWC did on the WAC...


  94. Garret:

    Is the Fanhouse article wrongly quoting the data moving with Big East or is the Executive Director of the BCS Bill Hancock wrong?

    None of them are wrong. *You* are wrong when you say that TCU's numbers will count for the Big East in this 2008-2011 evaluation period. Yes, TCU will count for the Big East in the 2010-2013 evaluation period, but TCU will count for the MWC in the 2008-2011 evaluation period.


  95. Pomai:

    I see the MWC as a 12 team confrence with an east/westdivision See what it would look like.

    http://nawahine.smugmug.com/Misc/General/new-MWC/1108888308_mWAyh-L.jpg


  96. Garret:

    So, TCU could help the MWC earn AQ status for 2012 and then leave...UH could join an AQ conference even though none of UH's numbers would have counted.


  97. Garret:

    AQ status means NOTHING when a school has a chance to upgrade itself that significantly. Colorado left the Big 12 for the Pac-12. Nebraska left for the Big 10. Even with AQ status, the MWC would get a lot less TV money and a lot less NCAA basketball money.

    In the end, TV viewers determine how much money a conference makes. There simply aren't that many TV viewers watching the MWC and WAC combined, while the Big East is located in viewer-rich areas.


  98. Garret:

    I've got to go offline now and have to make some huge work decisions by the end of the day...


  99. d1島:

    jm2375:

    November 29th, 2010 at 9:51 am
    d1 - no mo AM rayjio!

    Ho! Ho! Ho!

    btw, you seem to say rayjo with a strange accent! :lol:


  100. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Garret,

    That's WAC vs. MWC arguments...Do you expect either side to NOT want to protect their membership? What did UNLV gain from joining the WAC? Nothing except the UNR thing.

    The WAC trying to get UNLV is different from 4 schools + UNLV which obviously wants to be with Nevada and Hawaii (unless you think they joined the MWC to be with TCU)...looking to get 4 other MWC schools. I mean I'm definitely not an expert but small kine different.

    If MWC isn't getting the AQ status for 2012 (haven't found a single source that points to them having a good shot at it) then what does it matter what Air Forces AQ eval looks like compared to Hawaii for 2012. It means nothing. I think schools are poised to shoot for the next round.

    I will however agree with the basketball thing with the MWC losing that money.

    Also if you want to keep in NM for their bowl that could work if you were to add to make 12 or take Utah st. out.

    Btw what new requirements make it MUCH more difficult to create a conference from scratch?


  101. (Jesse)James:

    Good morning Tsaikos...hope all are doing well....Wheww...what a WACky weekend...good but Whacky


  102. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Garret your right about the MWC gaining that AQ status. How is it that they can count for 2 conferences? Thats wierd.

    "Here is where things get bizarre. T.C.U.’s 2010 regular season will also go toward the Mountain West’s bid toward gaining automatic qualification status for the 2012 and 2013 seasons, which will be evaluated in December 2011. The Mountain West has a great chance to receive a bid for those two seasons, as Boise State, which the league recently added, will also count in that cycle for its performances back to 2008.

    The cycles overlap because the conferences created a new evaluation period to coincide with the television contract. To do that, they overlap for two years, according to the B.C.S. executive director, Bill Hancock. That is why T.C.U.’s seasons will count for both leagues. "

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/sports/ncaafootball/30tcu.html


  103. (Jesse)James:

    On...and another quick reminder...

    Annual Tsaikos Christmas Party
    Saturday, December 18, 2010
    Start Time: Between 5:30 - 6:00
    End Time: Whenever
    Place: Murphys Bar and Grill
    2 Merchant Street
    Honolulu, HI 96813-4311
    (808) 531-0422

    http://murphyshawaii.com/

    Join us for food, fun, friends, family, and football talk as we celebrate the holidays and prepare for our Warriors to showcase their talents in the Hawaii Bowl.....

    All are welcome to attend. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up, so mark your calendars.

    We usually take donations for the needy at the party and give it to something like the former Advertiser Fund or Foodbank but more details on that to follow.


  104. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    ooops this was supposed to be the first paragraph of #102

    "T.C.U.’s scintillating 2010 regular season, which has it ranked No. 3 in the B.C.S. standings and just on the outside of a national title bid, will count for the Big East toward automatic qualification in the next cycle. The Big East is locked into the B.C.S. through the 2013 season, as it is included in the television and bowl contracts. The automatic qualification criteria for the B.C.S. after 2014 have not been determined. If the Big East were subject to a review of its part performance, T.C.U.’s 2010 season would count for the Big East in that review. (That would help offset a poor year for the Big East on the field in 2010.)"


  105. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Nevermind here it is together...

    " T.C.U.’s scintillating 2010 regular season, which has it ranked No. 3 in the B.C.S. standings and just on the outside of a national title bid, will count for the Big East toward automatic qualification in the next cycle. The Big East is locked into the B.C.S. through the 2013 season, as it is included in the television and bowl contracts. The automatic qualification criteria for the B.C.S. after 2014 have not been determined. If the Big East were subject to a review of its part performance, T.C.U.’s 2010 season would count for the Big East in that review. (That would help offset a poor year for the Big East on the field in 2010.)

    Here is where things get bizarre. T.C.U.’s 2010 regular season will also go toward the Mountain West’s bid toward gaining automatic qualification status for the 2012 and 2013 seasons, which will be evaluated in December 2011. The Mountain West has a great chance to receive a bid for those two seasons, as Boise State, which the league recently added, will also count in that cycle for its performances back to 2008.

    The cycles overlap because the conferences created a new evaluation period to coincide with the television contract. To do that, they overlap for two years, according to the B.C.S. executive director, Bill Hancock. That is why T.C.U.’s seasons will count for both leagues. "

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/sports/ncaafootball/30tcu.html


  106. UHfan808:

    UH @ BSU TV-gate, C K Lounge, November 6, 2010 --
    UH @ NMSU TV-gate, Imua Lounge, November 27, 2010 --

    Thank you to those of you who joined us coordinators [James, Koakane, Prideperiod, Rob25, and myself] for one or both TV-gates.
    .........
    It was good fun to be around fellow cheerers and know we are there for each other to share in all the ups and downs moods, excitement, tension, happiness, pensiveness, and more including pure and utter joy, while watching our travelling Warrior Team in their quest to defeat our opponents.

    Big mahalos to C K Lounge and Imua Lounge for your big screen tvs with great views from many vantage points, clean spacious air-conditioned facilities and amenities, wonderful allyoucaneat/buffet breakfast food (which was sometimes free - CK), and lots of cushy seats everywhere!!

    And last but not least, many mahalos to my fellow coordinators (whom I mentioned previously) for the venues ideas and coordination with the venues, you're the best!!

    In the future, we plan to plan TV-gates at other locations in the spirit of sharing our Tsai-ko brand positiveness ; ). If you weren't able to these times, hope you will be able to some other time!

    Different locations, suggestions, comments - We are always open to trying new places be it a restaurant, bar, or someone's hale, in the hopes of adding variety to the group experience and appreciating new different and/or unique dishes. If you have location suggestions, comments, or suggestions for the upcoming UH Warrior 2011 football season, please send them by email to tsaikoTVgate (at) gmail (dot) com. Note, anyone of us Tsai-kos can plan a TV-gate so if you're into planning one, let me/us know so we can attend yours, please ; ) hehe !!

    Once again, mahalo for sharing the fun-frustration and camaraderie, TV-gate Tsaikos!! Huggs to you all!! = )


  107. Old Diver:

    #95
    Pomai,

    Are you expecting Utah and BYU to remain in the MWC?


  108. al:

    Garret:

    November 29th, 2010 at 8:17 am
    Why do the D-IA coaches vote for an All-America team before the regular season is even over?

    it's because two thirds of the coaches will either be on vacation dec. 5th, recruiting, or fired.


  109. Pride.:

    For an old retired guy, Koakane still has tons of stamina and endurance. He and Rob25 started at Imua Lounge at 10:00 A.M. on Saturday morning and went until 12:00 midnight. That's right, fourteen straight hours, without a break.

    I vote Rob25 and Koakane for WAC FOTW award.


  110. UHfan808:

    Yesterday #264 IWWTHM & #284 Protector- As per the TV-gate announcement, Saturday at Imua was a breakfast-style buffet. The meal consisted of eggs, rice, spam, Portugueae sausage, and they added the fresh fruits for good measure lol.

    They initially served premade individual plates since we weren't sure of the exact count (we didn't do a pre-pay) and to keep the fuud fresh. To order more, you would just ask. = )


  111. kev-1:

    Interesting thought . . . imagine if none of the WAC teams left for the MWC. Next year, the WAC would be a stronger conference than the MWC by far and it would probably be the MWC pondering its existence. Funny how things work out.


  112. al:

    okay, i'll bite.

    FOTW is what????


  113. kev-1:

    33 Garret - that is a very interesting scenario, especially with SMU on the rise. hmmm . . .


  114. d1島:

    Fuuder of the Week!


  115. d1島:

    ....speaking of fuud.


  116. Pride.:

    Fan! Fan Of The Week.


  117. Pride.:

    Great year for the Linfield Wildcats. Not easy to get through those playoffs. But Wildcats always find a way to get there. Winning that first round game was a very good accomplishment.


  118. RupertDaStupert:

    Last weekend, Mo surpassed the most passing yardage in a game. This weekend, Alex Green, surpassed the most rushing yardage in a game. And Greg Salas broke Jason Rivers reception for yardage. And Mr. Enos eclipsed the great Jason Elam's point after touchdown mark. What more could one ask for? Remarkable! I hope Greg McMacken is asking JD to give Nick Rolovich and Dave Aranda pay raises and contract extensions. If the pros won't give them a chance, some high faluting BCS college will want try to lure them away. He's quickly replacing Norm Chow as a urban legend as offensive coordinator.


  119. Kukui High School:

    Anybody see my nuts? I lost them.


  120. tommui:

    Without degrading or taking away Mr. Enos' successful attempts at point after TDs, one has to remember the pass-oriented offense we use today differs from the run, run, and sometimes pass offense we used when Jason Elam was with us.


  121. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc (click my name for gifting ideas):

    James:

    With respect to the December 18 party and without bachi-ing a particular team, would it be possible to move the start time from 5:30 pm to 3:30 pm since a certain sporting championship will be played at 8:30 pm Eastern Standard Time?

    Only two O`ahu-based home UH games over the next three weeks and two days- December 4 at Aloha Stadium (football) and December 11 at The Stan (men's basketball).

    However, we will have at least 5 - hopefully six - away games/matches over the next five days in addition to the UNLV football game so things won't be too boring.

    Anyone here going to the NA KOA annual football dinner this Sunday? Do we want to have a table or two set up for us? Stretch - are you willing to organize something? Who else is a NA KOA member?

    OFF-SPORTS TOPIC: We've re-set the new date for yesterdaya's canceled GREEN GIFTING PRE-SALE - $5 each. Next Sunday, 10:30 am to 1:30 pm. Will bring information to Saturday's T-Gate as well. Click my name above for more information about what it's all about.

    Off to work - lots of quasi-semi-hemi-demi-sorta political stuff to do.


  122. tommui:

    GARRET: While TCU's move to the Big East means a move to a bigger TV market, is there any statistics showing how many people actually tune into the Big East football games?


  123. Pomai:

    #95 - OldDiver - Not sure, I know there is all this talk of them leaving but they haven't yet I don't think. If they do then it wouldn't be to hard to find two more schools to invite. I think MWC could keep BYU if they worked out a deal on the TV rights, because them remaining in the conference would be good for both the school and conference.


  124. Pomai:

    I guess I was wrong they both have made their moves to going independent and to the pac 10.


  125. Not an Expert:

    Is the AQ qualifying formula like a 3 or 4 year rolling average? That may make it a lot clearer of AQ points being credited to the conference when one team leaves one conference for another and have them count for both conferences as explained by Iwonderwhytheyhateme.

    Example:

    TCU goes to Big East in 2012. Their 2012 will count for the Big East going forward, the prior years 2011, 2010, 2009, counting for MWC credits. Thus TCU counts for 2008-2011 for the MWC. TCU will count for Big East for 2009-2012. Is this how it works? It seems a little confusing from what is being discussed by Garret and Iwonderwhytheyhateme.

    By the way I am wondering why others may hate you Iwonderwhytheyhateme? Just kidding.


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  127. Souljah:

    Anybody remember Jesse Williams?...he should have been at UH

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-2743


  128. NCAA:

    Jesse who?


  129. RupertDaStupert:

    Off the subjiect but please forgive me. Prez Obama froze federal civilian workers wages for 2 years. I worked as a civilian in the Fed Govt for 33 years. My retirement was 800.00 a month. It made me homeless. What he did was guarantees more Fed civilian workers will become homeless. Freeze the wages of those who make $80,000 a year, not the lower tier Fed civ workers who earn chicken feed. People have a mistaken notion that civ Fed workers make good money. Not so. He's a smooth talker, but he's not addressing the problem where it's at. Yes he's an Island son, but it's a death sentence to become homeless. You can't put a price on dying. Island son or not, I'm voting for a Prez next election who doesn't hit people below the belt when their already struggling. I'm sorry Mr. Tsai. My prayers go out to all the homeless, those suffering from terminal illness and non terminal illness, our soldiers defending our country, and to keep my statements within sports, hope Colt Brennan gets well and Shakti and the lady hit by their car. May the good Lord look down and take care of them. On an endiing note, my respect for Brett Favre went up 100% when he ran the yards near the end of the game on a broken ankle. In a brutal contact sports such as this, no one, on one, plays with a broken ankle. He's a MAN!!!!!!!


  130. Souljah:

    Oh yeah, David Garness is at 22 on that list too...who happened to been a walk-on at UH.


  131. al:

    souljah...if he still wanted to be a warrior he would have.

    he was never qualified out of high school and would have had to go to a jc regardless. can't lay the blame on the warriors. this from a reliable source in australia. let's lay this to rest. alabama came a calling and his eyes got wider and so he'll go there for two years.


  132. Souljah:

    al,

    I know the story, but I just hope that means that the guys we have are clearly better than both of them. That would be exciting if true!


  133. NCAA:

    Freezing Federal worker pay is better than laying off or furloughing workers.


  134. NCAA:

    Congratulations to Green and the rest of the record breakers.

    Anyone know if the ESPN3 telecast of the UH game was in HD? It sure wasn't in HD on the K5 rebroadcast. Looked grainy to me. Sorta like a 1.5 megapixel Fisher Price camera.


  135. A-House:

    David Garness is already on campus? Re-shirt or grey-shirt, but practicing with the team? Go scholarship in jan 2011?

    yep, al, got more ?????????????


  136. A-House:

    Can someone post a list of all the "grey-shirts" including vital stats? Gives me a heads-up on who is in the barn and who is still on the range.


  137. al:

    ahouse...you mean you want to know their temperature, blood pressure, a1c1, that kind of stuff?


  138. al:

    souljah...you never know one could change his mind....?

    btw, we are still in the running for at least six on that jc list of yours. we are looking for one more rb who could be converted ala kealoha p., wr/sb, db's, and maybe a rush end.


  139. al:

    ahouse...garness was a walk on who spent a year here and then went to cc of sf, you know where, rolo was the qb coach.

    right now he is a first year free agent with 3 years to play.


  140. labrat:

    Old Diver okay I will try to get more votes in.


  141. al:

    136...that is a revolving door so no sense try to establish a list.


  142. al:

    at last peek alex green is far off the leader now.

    it seems that those razorbacks have discovered a way to load the internet voting (again). remember a few years ago when this kid with the least amount of vocal chords won the american idol over adam lambert by a landslide. yah he from arkansas.


  143. Kazz:

    A-House,

    Will send you an email soon. Please check.


  144. RupertDaStupert:

    All freezing, layoffs, and furloughs, are bad for the lower tier wage earner. But the Prez, the Governors of each state, the mayors, don't want to freeze, or furlough, or layoff the big good ol boy/girls who are making six figures a year. Their cutting their throats, because these richer people will cut their re-election donations, their powerful influence to support the candidate, their power base. The little man pays the price. Our U.S. postal service it laying off 51 workers here. Some may keep their jobs but have to transfer to stateside. But I will vote for the candidate who is not afraid to take on the big boys/girls to take equal responsibility to do their part to sacrifice wages in this bad economic times. Look at what pro athletes make in all the major sports? A freeze in their wages would not hurt them one bit. What's a $100,000 freeze when their already making millions a year?


  145. kev-1:

    #118 - while I share in your enthusiasm regarding Aranda and Rolo, I think you have a very lofty opinion regarding their success. No, a BCS school will not chase down Rolovich nor Aranda. They are so new to coordinator status. And don't forget what people across the country think of the run-n-shoot. And how does one year as OC throw Rolo ahead of Norm Chow as an OC legend? I think Rolo should/will be the HC of the University of Hawaii within the next 5-7 years. Hopefully Aranda will stick with the program. I could see people pursuing Aranda in the future, and I think his mind is on the mainland too.


  146. NCAA:

    Grayshirts? You mean players like Anguay, Lau, Sellers, Friel, Eselu, Katina and maybe a few others.


  147. A-House:

    al:

    those vitals are personal/confidential info and i would never, ever ask for that!!!!!!!

    knew i could count on your response - now, i remember Garness - think he will come back to UH?

    why would "grey-shirts" be a revolving door? do they have to sign NOLI in Feb 2011 like all the other recruits?

    guess Miur is an example of a "grey-shirt" who went off to SMU, checked out the school/sights and decided that UH was, in fact, da place to be.

    will mack and staff make a last minute pitch to those "local boys" who gave verbals? i recall JJ's policy was player must de-commit before he/staff would discuss change.


  148. Pride.:

    Big East money is in basketball.


  149. A-House:

    NCAA:

    i like the color "grey" - thank you!!!


  150. NCAA:

    Mr. RupertDaStupert,

    I don't keep up with politics but didn't Obama want to increase taxes for the rich while the middle class and lower get a break? That's enough politics for me.

    GO WARRIORS! Send those Rebels on their commercial flight back home with their 11th loss of the season!


  151. NCAA:

    Mr. A-House,

    Are you British?


  152. Souljah:

    138.al:

    btw, we are still in the running for at least six on that jc list of yours. we are looking for one more rb who could be converted ala kealoha p., wr/sb, db's, and maybe a rush end.

    Al,

    I also noticed those we are currently trying to get to the islands. I hope that the UH coaches are pushing as hard as they can cause some/all of them look like they will do some damage bleeding warrior green. If the coaches can bring in a very good class this year i truly believe we can consistently win the Mountain West Conference straight out.


  153. Pride.:

    kev-1:
    November 29th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
    I think Rolo should/will be the HC of the University of Hawaii within the next 5-7 years. Hopefully Aranda will stick with the program. I could see people pursuing Aranda in the future, and I think his mind is on the mainland too.

    Hmmmmmmmmm. Very interesting.


  154. NCAA:

    I guess you are not Brit or else you would have spelled "colour". :lol:


  155. kev-1:

    Just thought about how much of a disappointment LWJ was last season. Imagine if Green were the starter.


  156. A-House:

    NCAA:

    the centre of the universe is on the chain!

    y'all can come here, now!


  157. RupertDaStupert:

    NCAA, I think you're right about what Obama said. Politician's will say anything to get elected. I know about furloughs----it happened to me. I know about layoffs----it happened to me. I know about freezes----it made me homeless. I speak from what I experienced, not what I speculate. I always will be proud that Obama is an Island son. But I call it as I see it. Your right blogger. Very astute statement about Rolovich. One year as OC does not a legend make. And I think your right, Aranda not once made a statement about "these islands are special, I love it here". He has his sights on the mainland. Oh well, it all works out in the end. I was one of the pundits 3 years ago, "Brett Favre's a has been, Brett Favre's a prima donna, Brett Favre's great but all those interceptions", but playing and running on a broken leg, in the pros, I thing he's a superstar for just doing that. In these days when pros won't play from a sprained nagging injury, I have a whole new respect for him!!!


  158. NCAA:

    Mr. A-House,

    Defence! Defence! Defence!


  159. duffer:

    Any Wahine bb fans going to Hilo for the games?


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  161. al:

    ahouse is as non-brit as they come.


  162. NCAA:

    Mr. RupertDaStupert,

    I love your postings on here! Thank you for sharing your thoughts, opinions, and stories. I for one enjoy your posts and positive attitude as well as others on here. Hope you have a nice holiday season.


  163. al:

    duffer...no tell me that you are? anymore free passes and your boss going get suspicious.


  164. al:

    the revolving greyshirt door is ever changing.
    greyshirt em or lose em?
    greyshirt em then redshirt em?
    no grey em bring em in da fall?

    what to do?

    see what i mean. of course it is all predicated by one factor...get grades?


  165. al:

    souljah.....most of the jc'ers are able to come in by december in time to acclimate to the college/city and get em in the weight room and spring training.

    or they have 3 for 2 or better yet 4 for 3 or 3 for 3.

    most of them are quick needs or in positions easier to pick up schemes from.


  166. Old Diver:

    #159

    NCAA

    Obama was for extending the Bush tax cuts for all income under $250,000 for couples, which means even the rich would receive a tax cut. Obama never proposed a tax increase for the rich.

    Go Warriors.


  167. Garret:

    Not An Expert:

    The BCS starts a new evaluation period every 2 years. The current evaluation periods are 2008-2011 and 2010-2013.

    2008-2011: TCU and BSU count for the MWC, which as the NY Times article correctly points out gives the MWC a great shot at becoming an AQ conference. That would give them AQ status for 2012 and 2013 (TCU won't be there but UH, Nevada, Fresno, and the rest of the MWC will enjoy that money!).

    2010-2013: TCU will count for the Big East. UH, Fresno, Nevada, BSU, and the rest of the teams left in the MWC will count for the MWC. To get/keep AQ status, they will need at least 2 teams in the top 25 at the end of each season (it would be great if BSU, UH, and Nevada did that this season) and they will need the highest ranked team each year to be well into the top 10. The MWC will need its highest ranked team in the top 6 or 7 on average to get/keep AQ status...unfortunately for this year it appears that none of the school will get it.

    ESPN is paying $42.5 million more for TV rights to the BCS bowl games than Fox was paying--all that money is given as payout increases for BCS bowls. If TCU, BSU and the rest can earn AQ status for the MWC, UH's share of the BCS payment would be *more* than UH would be getting from PPV in the future. Plus, recruiting would get a huge boost.


  168. NCAA:

    Anybody else think the State Championship football game was anti-climatic?

    Anybody wanna through out some youtube links of potential recruits?

    Anybody think the Wahine VB team will be playing for the NCAA championship on Dec. 18th?

    Anybody think the attendance for this weeks game against UNLV will have a similar attendance as the SJSU game?

    Anybody know why students don't show up for a free game?


  169. al:

    tony did such a great job flushing out the talent from here, there, and everywhere that i was surprised when mack brought him back to the trenches. surely, we know that it was tony's wish to return to the clipboards, but........

    and i hear that tony has been doing a great job coaching.

    in the future, i can see many schools paying more money for a recruiting coordinator's position. it would be worth getting someone sharp and on the money.


  170. NCAA:

    Thank you Mr. Old Diver for the details. That's why I don't dwell in politics, plus I don't work full time. :lol:


  171. al:

    i was shocked when they announced the crowd for the sjsu game. it felt like 24,000.


  172. Garret:

    GARRET: While TCU's move to the Big East means a move to a bigger TV market, is there any statistics showing how many people actually tune into the Big East football games?

    Tom Mui,

    TV networks do *not* work as charities so I'm sure that ESPN knows exactly what ratings conferences get and what that is worth to them.

    ESPN gives the WAC $4.5 million per year for the rights to all sports

    ESPN gives the Big East $13.3 million per year for their football rights
    ESPN gives the Big East $23 million per year for their basketball rights
    CBS gives the Big East $9 million per year for their part of their basketball rights.

    ESPN has been renegotiating its TV contract with the Big East and there is a possibility that the Big East will get between $10 million and $15 million per year for each (all sports) school for TV rights...that is far more than Pac-10 schools get for TV!

    I could look up some of the raw data for TV ratings, but I think that it is safe to say that ESPN wouldn't be throwing so much money at the Big East if people weren't watching their games.


  173. RupertDaStupert:

    NCAA, thank you for those kind words. Thanks also for Stephen Tsai to allow all of us to text our opinions. I have never seen a better blog than this anywhere. NCAA, I mostly come on to vent, I'm just a stupid arm chair qb. NCAA, as you know I am a lurker, it hurts my brain when I think, LOL. NCAA, you and the others like Garret are the heart and soul of this blog. You and others tirelessly take the time regularly to post your intelligent opinions about sports. Stephen Tsai is lucky to have regulars like you.


  174. Slugger:

    Na Koa luncheon: green salad, pasta salad, tako poke, kalua pig 'n cabbage, chicken long rice (yum!), turkey in herbed gravy, bread pudding & (some kinda) mousse cake. Someone said the rice was fluffy.

    Coach Lumpkin came in place of Aranda & told us the stories he told the players about not taking games for granted and the ones they lost in-the-day. Gotta play your best no matter who the opponent is. We can not assume that we will beat UNLV. Gotta play lights out.

    ST was at lunch. Practice tomorrow at 8 a.m.

    Ran into (literally) Sila at Subway & then the bank as I was running errands after lunch. That's the nice thing about living in this neighborhood.


  175. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc (click my name for gifting ideas):

    Rupert:

    NOTE: My comments are still "awaiting moderation," but I cannot figure out why. I even split it it into two paragraphs to see if I can identify the problem. I identified four possible blogs for you to raise your concerns.

    Here's the second paragraph. Let's see if it goes through:

    I strongly suggest that you contact the individual who represents you in the US House during this "lame duck session" while the Democrats are still in control. Come early January, things will get much worse because the Republicans want to cut wasteful government spending - and that means reducing the hundreds of thousands of people who make up the vast majority of the employees. The Big MuckaMuckas from every department & agency & office account for no more than 3% of the operational costs all totaled.

    BACK TO SPORTS!!!


  176. World Spinner:

    Green day - The Warrior Beat| UH football, University of Hawaii ......

    Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing......


  177. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc (click my name for gifting ideas):

    Obviously, the problem is in the first paragraph. What other bad words are there besides speci alist?


  178. Derek:

    What UH coaches are doing the best job of recruiting? Who recruited Colt Brennan? Who recruited Devon Bess? Who recruited Vaughn Meatoga? Who recruited Ryan Mouton? Who recruited Greg Salas? Etc. I mean, who was the primary point person! What are George Lumpkin's responsibilities as a recruiting coordinator? Is Greg McMackin happy with the way things are going on the recruiting front so far?


  179. duffer:

    Eh al don't you have business in hilo


  180. Old Diver:

    #178

    Derek,

    Are there rumblings about the job Lumpkin is doing? Good or Bad? Inquiring minds want to know.


  181. RupertDaStupert:

    Capital-ist, my remarks are what I think and they may be wrong. You probably 100% smarter than I am. You have vast more knowledge. So my opinions on freezes, furloughs, layoffs, could be far off the mark. It's easy to blame the Prez, the Gov, the Mayor, our Senators, our US House or Representatives. But I think there is much more to it than my brain power can handle. Prez Obama may actually be doing whats best for the people. I've been watching UH football since 1966, and I have no clue what it takes to win. I just pretended to know, "fire the coach, get a better qb, get a better running back" But you and the other regular bloggers are so much more intelligent than I am and I defer to all of you. I enjoy reading your posts, and the other regulars like NCAA, Garret, Liz/Kauai, GiGi, A-House, etc.


  182. NCAA:

    Does Lumpkin still have that football attached to a stick?

    Ms. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc,

    Don't tell me you don't know any bad words!


  183. NCAA:

    Pretend or not, it's our own opinions. The problem I see is when some cross the line and absolutely bash the student athlete. People have to realize that this is a college student who happens to play a sport for their university. It takes a lot of dedication and sacrifice to be the best you can be as a student and an athlete. No one is perfect in the classroom or on the field, court, pool, course, ocean, etc. They are allowed to make mistakes and to denigrate ones game or ability is just asinine and immature.

    Sorry, rant off.


  184. Pomai:

    Actually if Rolo was smart he would stay two more years at the most then go to another team that is not running the R&S. He will not be able to land an OC job anywhere but here with just knowing the R&S. Same with Aranda, he will move on in a few years, they both may have to take a step backwards to hook up with another top program. But they both need to learn a lot more.


  185. NCAA:

    Pomai,

    I guess you could say it's good for Rolo to speak to a Mouse.


  186. NCAA:

    The white dude in Tsai's photo at the top somewhat lessens the intensity and character of the picture. :lol:


  187. Slugger:

    NCAA,

    I think the guy to the left of Alex is Siaki. Is that Austin Hansen to the right?


  188. Kazz:

    NCAA:
    November 29th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Pretend or not, it's our own opinions. The problem I see is when some cross the line and absolutely bash the student athlete. People have to realize that this is a college student who happens to play a sport for their university. It takes a lot of dedication and sacrifice to be the best you can be as a student and an athlete. No one is perfect in the classroom or on the field, court, pool, course, ocean, etc. They are allowed to make mistakes and to denigrate ones game or ability is just asinine and immature.

    Sorry, rant off.

    Let me add to that.

    People want to talk about if a student-athlete isn't good enough or whatever, then dump all over the coach. I don't care how one says it, whether they make it personal or not, I do NOT believe in publically dumping on a student-athlete's abilities or whatever.

    Coaches get paid to do a job and that is to recruit and place his or her athletes in the best position to win. Leave the kids out of it. No gray area.

    Lately I've been quiet with regards to this specific issue and I'd like to say more, but I won't dignify specific comments as of late or responses alike.


  189. kev-1:

    186 . . . now, now. Let's avoid those kinds of insinuations.


  190. kama krab:

    Slugger #187,

    Looks like Zach Masch.


  191. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    KEEP VOTING FOR ALEX GREEN!

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup


  192. NCAA:

    Mr. kev-1,

    No insinuation is intended. I liken it to when UA first came out with their click-clack ad campaign. The white guy is too clean cut, that's all. They could have any color in there and if that guy is clean cut I'd say the same thing.

    Kazz,

    From your posts I can tell you are holding back. Thanks for the response.


  193. al:

    ask slugger she would know who is in the picture.


  194. Slugger:

    Kama,

    Could be. Gotta ask ST. Doesn't look like Masch's hairline, but the face shape does. Women usually notice the hair. I like Sila's current haircut versus the one they use on the roster (the up-do). :)


  195. NCAA:

    Women notice men's hairline? Oh, oh.


  196. Slugger:

    Gotta take a nap to fight off this cold.

    Esme & out...


  197. kev-1:

    NCAA - I was just being sarcastic.


  198. NCAA:

    Mr. kev-1,

    Phew! My post was just in case. Don't want people to think the NCAA is unfair. Scratch that, sorry for hosing the Wahine VB team. Bunch of ignorant people on the selection committee.


  199. kev-1:

    lol


  200. Pomai:

    K'den looks like we need to pull a "Jasmine Trias" with this vote for Green, you vote a 1000 times a day if you want, you just need to clear your cookies after voting. That is how the guy from Arkansas jumped from 31% to 37% in less then a few hours. So without a doubt Green should be the one to get it, so go vote 10 or 15 times.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup


  201. d1島:

    Pomai,

    Chree more votes!


  202. Kazz:

    NCAA,

    You know, it's been known that people have died and fought for our right for free speech.

    But man, if they could see the kinds of people and read the kind of trash, especially the crap that is posted on the response section of the online version of the Star Advetiser, that is spewed and defended in the name of "free speech" I'd imagine those men and women would turnover in their graves.


  203. madeinhawaii:

    Any word on WAC Champions shirts? Anyboey see any... anywhere? Are they dropping the ball again?


  204. NYUH:

    Who is the Big East?

    TEAM CONF OVERALL
    * - Connecticut 4-2 7-4
    * - West Virginia 4-2 8-3
    * - Pittsburgh 4-2 6-5
    * - Syracuse 4-3 7-5
    * - South Florida 3-3 7-4
    * - Louisville 3-4 6-6
    x - Cincinnati 2-4 4-7
    x - Rutgers 1-5 4-7


  205. Pomai:

    Whats bad is that with a 8-3 record West Virginia will be going to a BcS bowl. SAD...........


  206. d1島:

    mih,

    Supposo be at the game on Saturday...if not sooner.

    But jusincase, I bus' out my "WAC Champion" hat awredde


  207. Kazz:

    RE: WAC CHAMPIONSHIP SHIRTS

    The design was made just in case.

    Who thought Boise was going to lose????

    In ANY case, the shirts are being printed as we speak. For SURE will be at the Stadium for sale on Saturday at the Rainbowtique tents, slim chance by Friday at Rainbowtique locations.

    WalMart is supposed to have them by Wednesday.

    Might be two different designs. KOP Industries, which has a UH licensing agreement is supposedly supplying Wal Mart's stock. Rainbowtique may have another version. IF this is the case, UH Rainbowtique's design will most likely be the one the players will be wearing.


  208. d1島:

    Pomai,

    Once get playoffs for the championship, you better be ready for the possibility of a 3-loss NC


  209. Kazz:

    Pomai,

    The only thing SADDER is a 9-3 Hawaii team not going to a bowl game… 2001 was indeed an eye-opener.


  210. d1島:

    WalMart is supposed to have them by Wednesday.

    AirExpress from China....


  211. d1島:

    KOP Industries

    :oops: make that from Korea


  212. Kazz:

    D1,

    Dunno... KOP is based in the Pearl City Industrial Park.


  213. Kazz:

    Would be nice if Under Armour made WAC Champ hats, shirts and polos. A jacket would be nice too.

    They've ruined cotton for me forever.


  214. Pomai:

    #208 - d1 - In a 16 team playoff I could handle that, at least it is decided on the field and not in some back room.


  215. pcwarrior:

    Regarding WAC Champion Shirts: I heard on the radio this morning, they were going to sell at Rianbowtique this saturday at the stadium.


  216. pcwarrior:

    Fat fingrers

    Rianbowtique= Rainbowtique


  217. Michigan Warrior:

    Hawaii Five-0 is on... and it's the Kukui Kings rerun? What? Man...


  218. d1島:

    Nice draft for the Niners.


  219. Manoa:

    Intriguing that June Jones and SMU could end up playing Georgia in the Liberty Bowl if they win the CUSA Championship game this weekend. Also some room for SMU playing in Hawaii based on what the AD is saying.

    « SMU AD reacts to TCU's move to Big East | Main
    Comments 1 | Recommend 0

    Could SMU end up playing Georgia in the Liberty Bowl?
    Posted at 4:05 PM on Mon., Nov. 29, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
    Kate Hairopoulos / Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips

    If SMU wins Saturday's Conference USA title game, the Mustangs would likely play in Memphis' Liberty Bowl, which has always hosted the C-USA champion. Reports are hinting that Georgia will be the SEC's representative in the Dec. 31st bowl.

    SMU coach June Jones faced Georgia in his last game with Hawaii - New Year's Day, 2008 - before leaving for Dallas. The Bulldogs trounced Hawaii, 41-10, in the BCS' Sugar Bowl after the Warriors went undefeated during the regular season.

    Still, nothing will be official until this weekend. If SMU ends up losing at Central Florida, several options appear to be on the table, from the Armed Forces Bowl (at SMU's Ford Stadium this season) to the Hawaii Bowl to the New Orleans Bowl, etc...

    While SMU played on Oahu last season, Hawaii wasn't bowl eligible. This season, Hawaii is already set as one of the teams, and the folks at ESPN may like the idea of Jones returning to Hawaii to face his former team.
    .
    "We've had teleconferences with all the ADs, and right now it's still up in the air depending on Saturday's game," SMU athletic director Steve Orsini said. "Nothing will be official. Our young people have shared with us what they prefer to do. We have coach Jones' preference... We weigh all those things."


  220. madeinhawaii:

    Thanks guys... re: 'WAC Champions' shirts.

    Now everyone who reads this blog can tell their friends to bring some extra Kala on Saturday to buy a Warrior WAC Champion 2010 shirt for themselves and as Xmas gifts for everybody else, eh?


  221. madeinhawaii:

    Das da shirt for the Bowl Game, for sure!


  222. madeinhawaii:

    All this talk about Alex Green makes me wonder what Leon Wright-Jackson is doing. Hope he and his family are doing well and settled down happily somewhere.


  223. al:

    smu would be a great replacement for tcu.
    oh wait, i think we are the replacement.


  224. al:

    i thought i heard that the tshirts would be available by thursday and they will also sell some at the game.


  225. al:

    i am hoping it will be black.
    but, i am not counting on it since they will go with the cheapest that is white.


  226. Slugger:

    Trivia:

    TCU's mascot, the Horned Frogs = Horny Toads in AZ

    They are really Horned Lizards. We used to catch them in the yard. Fed them ants, their prefered food. They can squirt blood from their eyes when threatened. According to AZ law, you can't keep them captive since they were?are a protected species.

    Wonder when we'll know if we really ARE replacing TCU in the MWC?


  227. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc (click my name for gifting ideas):

    Rupert:

    My blocked posting provided contact information about three really great local political blogs where most of us hang out for an hour or so every day plus the two reporterslashbloggers 21 spaces above the Warrior Beat.

    And yes I do know a few naughty words, but the "bad" word must be hidden inside a more benign word like speci alist - put letters four through eight together. See Garret's comment above - he also got caught on this one.

    Back to work - have a major presentation at an important meeting tomorrow so I need to make sure eyes are crossed and tees are dotted.


  228. Kazz:

    Go with Green or White.

    Black for a championship shirt? Ah c'mon!!!

    Dis is a celebration.. not a funeral. :lol:


  229. Kazz:

    Al,

    No worry. I will wear all black on Saturday as it's the last game of the season and senior night.

    Good to have an alternate color OUTSIDE of our school colors to wear on special occasions.


  230. just wondering:

    LWJ was on the field roaming the sidelines during the Boise State game. He came in the stands to sit down for a little while during half time. Not sure what he is doing now but he looked to be in good shape.


  231. Kazz:

    But black will be nice for Saturday because in a way, it is kind of is a funeral.

    It's the last regular season game and we're killing two things:

    1) The belief that we were only worthy of a bottom place finish in the WAC.

    2) UNLV


  232. Slugger:

    Since they have time, I hope they use Green t-shirts. The 2007 WAC Champions shirt I have is grey. The softball NCAA College World Series shirt is Green.

    Good marketing to sell them at the stadium to get people to the game. An added bonus for attendance. Tickets for Saturday's game in the end zone (red & yellow) are 50% off online at the UH site.


  233. Slugger:

    LWJ appears to be at home in Pasco, WA. He has a beautiful little daughter.


  234. Not an Expert:

    The MWC & WAC will forever have a difficult time becoming a BCS conference. They could right now if all the schools invited to the MWC and BYU, Utah and TCU remained. How can they not qualify as a BCS.

    The pecking order WAC to the MWC to a BCS conference.

    Look at what has happened with the fueding of the MWC and WAC. They both have taken a step backwards, more so the WAC.

    Apparently the schools know that even if the MWC or WAC became a BCS conference the money made from television will not be more and maybe far less than than what the current BCS conferences get. That being the case the schools are working using the conferences like the MWC and WAC as a stepping stone to hopefully get an invite from the established BCS conferences.

    I believe UH needs a long range plan to get that invite from the PAC-12. Don't let Boise be the school next in line.


  235. Kazz:

    Not an Expert,

    That plan should start with, if not at least, the support from UH fans.


  236. madeinhawaii:

    Not an Expert...

    At least if they become an AQ conference, they will be guaranteed 4 million shared.. and the conference winner another 4 million. That would be a HUGE incentive to win the conference and since Hawaii knows the scent of that blood.. they (the powers that be) may be more inclined to make it happen with better recruiting.. more PR... facility upgrades.. etc. If, say, Boise and Hawaii alternate as Conference winners every other year... they would increase their revenue, on top of what the conference TV rights pay out, an average of 2.5 million a year!


  237. NYUH:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Boise-State-kicker-Kyle-Brotzman-becomes-target-of-nasty-barbs-112910

    We knew THAT was coming.


  238. Stephen Tsai:

    Did I mention that for tomorrow's prize, we're giving away an Alex Green-autographed copy of the play-by-play stat book


  239. kawika49:

    An exhibition (Football or Basketball) or league game in Japan, or Australia/New Zealand would be a nice introduction in those markets.


  240. Lurker 1:

    I'm not sure the Pac 12 will invite Boise State. All of the Pac-12 schools are big, prestigious research schools, offering PhD's in a multitude of areas. Boise State offers PhD's in 3 areas: Geophysics, Geosciences & Electrical/Computational Engineering. (For comparison, UH offers PhD's/ JD /MD/etc. in 61 areas.)

    And the Pac-10 Schools can be just a wee bit snobby! :) I did my time at USC; husband was at UW.


  241. bb:

    BC casting stones?

    I think I get the meaning of that post.


  242. jm2375:

    bb - see #32


  243. Garret:

    At least if they become an AQ conference, they will be guaranteed 4 million shared.. and the conference winner another 4 million.

    madeinhawaii,

    With the increased TV money from ESPN, each AQ conference is guaranteed *$23 million* shared, not just $4 million. It actually might be $24 million or $25 million guaranteed.

    Remember, the 5 non-AQ conferences split the money like they are one huge AQ conference.

    * Some of that money is given to each conference based on how well they did in nonconference games.

    * Some of that money is earned when a non-AQ school makes a BCS game...but 1/3 of what that school earns goes to the other 4 non-AQ conferences.

    When UH went to the Sugar Bowl, the Sun Belt, MAC, C-USA, and MWC each got a share of the money UH earned. The guaranteed money was split based on nonconference records (MWC got the biggest share).

    So, non-AQ conferences split things 5 ways, AQ conferences get a full share.

    If the MWC conference was an AQ conference with UH in it, none of the posters here would complain about a 3-loss UH team going to a BCS bowl game because it won the conference title...


  244. Pomai:

    242 - bb - Well the jerk wasn't talking about me, but then again he might be talking about himself just like his shows.


  245. Garret:

    Michigan Warrior,

    A full season for a show like H:50 is 22 episodes. 22 episodes for 52 weeks...get used to a lot of reruns.


  246. Garret:

    By the way, I made a big decision for work today and I'm going to be in Torrance 3 days a week for quite some time. I can pick which days I'll be in Torrance...hopefully we can have a Calf Call at Kings sometime because I drive right past it to get to where I have to go for work.


  247. madeinhawaii:

    Garret...

    More reason to rejoice if the MWC becomes an AQ conference even without all that TV money that the other BCS conferences make, eh? It would still be a far cry from what we get out of the WAC when we win the conference.

    I suppose, though, that means the MWC would not be able to have a 'shared' conference winner.


  248. A-House:

    d1:

    did the 49ers beat Arizona tonight? know they were leading 24 - 6 late in the 3rd qtr.


  249. d1島:

    A-house,

    Winnah winnah!
    Chikin dinnah!

    Brian Westbrook 23 rushes for 136 yards!

    27-6 and sole possession of 3rd place in the NFC-West...


  250. Garret:

    Pretty funny--the Bowl game that Nevada wanted was the Kraft Bowl since San Francisco is such an easy commute for their fans.

    If Nevada lost to BSU, BSU would be in a BCS bowl and Nevada would be in the Kraft Bowl. Nevada would have had the bowl it wanted and $625k from BSU's BCS money.

    By beating BSU, Nevada not only lost their $625k, but BSU is getting the Kraft Bowl. So, Nevada will play in Boise in the Humanitarian Bowl. So, by winning the game, Nevada "wins" the right to play in Boise against a MAC school instead of in San Francisco against a Big East school.


  251. Garret:

    madeinhawaii,

    Every BCS AQ conference has a tiebreaker to determine their champion to help decide which team goes to the BCS game or conference title game.


  252. Stephen Tsai:

    Several years ago, an audit was going to show that UH was losing a lot of money.
    So, the auditor was hired as an assistant AD.
    She was in her 20s. Never worked in athletics.
    Seems that the AQ conferences are following that tactic. Utah threatens a lawsuit, suddenly it gets invited to the Pac-10.
    Big East is in jeopardy of losing its AQ. It brings in TCU.
    Better be careful for what it wishes. Think it's going to be strange TCU playing in baseball in the Big East? Think TCU is going to be good for long? Hey, remember when it was the subject of Dan Jenkins books?


  253. d1島:

    Garret,

    :lol:

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer Coach!


  254. bb:

    #242

    I knew it.

    I remember this morning BC saying that "a particular writer" was at Wally World at the start of Black Friday. Oh man, I was thinking someone else too.


  255. A-House:

    thanks, d1 - made my evening - score was not shown at the 6:00pm sports segment!

    a co-worker placed a small bet that the Niners would win the NFC West - after the lousy beginning, he dumped the ticket!


  256. A-House:

    d1:

    ditto your #253 - rotflmao!


  257. chawan_cut:

    evenin!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8MWcixAN7U


  258. chawan_cut:

    A-house(s),
    Welcome home! How was Sushi-Mon?


  259. A-House:

    Garret:

    Nevada will lose $$ on the Humanitarian Bowl because their fans DO NOT travel with the team - unlike, us crazy Hawaiians from all over the USA! Boise fans will not support the game because they lost to Nevada - lose, lose situation for NCAA!

    Any "stat" on how many Boise St fans went to the Sugar Bowl?

    Sugar Bowl or not, we still want to revisist NOLA - so many good memories!!!!!!!

    Best of luck on your most recent business decision - it's a long drive for you!


  260. duffer:

    C_C you got mail at Yahoo


  261. Shoko:

    So, schools should just bow down because of bowl money. According to that logic, Nevada should throw the LA Tech game so that there is another WAC team that is bowl eligible. Guess Utah State threw the game against NMSU in last years WAC tournament, just so that there are two WAC teams in the NCAA tournament.


  262. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    KEEP VOTING FOR ALEX GREEN!

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup

    C'mon y'all! We can put him in first place! Keep voting!


  263. A-House:

    chawan:

    went to Sushi Mon on Wednesday before the VB match and it was simply wonderful - we did the all you can eat and I started out with full order of the Spider and Dragon roll, green muscles, yellow tail collar; then, I began to pick at other orders and finished with a large bowl of Gren Tea ice cream.

    cannot recall what the others ordered, but we were all STUFFED leaving the restaurant and late for the VB match.

    most unfortunate as Mrs A-House, MasaBoy and I were sick the 6 days we were there - only Midori was the strong one.


  264. A-House:

    Kazz:

    hope you got my email!


  265. al:

    ahouse...those green muscles, did they come from the "hulk"?


  266. al:

    you got sick?
    must have been those muscles from the "hulk".


  267. al:

    no worry kazz...they going make the shirt white and save .67 each shirt.


  268. Old Diver:

    Does anyone know the reason Boise is going to the Kraft Bowl and Nevada is going to the Inhumain Bowl?


  269. Slugger:

    A-House,

    My Mom came back with the start of a cold and now we both have full-blown colds.

    Did you attend the UH Fan reception at the Orleans before the Championship game?


  270. Calvin from Kona:

    Does anyone know which sideline Hawaii will take for the Hawaii Bowl? Trying to figure out where to get my tickets


  271. Not an Expert:

    I have been stating the conspiracy behind keeping the MWC and WAC from becoming an AQ conference. Does anyone believe in a conspiracy? A no brainer if Boise, TCU, Utah, BYU, Fresno, Nevada, UH, were in the MWC with the rest of the teams there now. Can't figure how all these educated people at these schools look at only getting themselves to an AQ conference instead of working together and achieving that goal together?
    Are the commissioners part of the conspiracy?

    I'm guessing money and power in the works here like all capitalistic ventures.

    Garret thank you for your explanation on AQ qualifications.


  272. Old Diver:

    Calvin, could be wrong but I believe UH normally takes the makai side. From past experience I also believe the entire makai blue section is sold out to corporate sponsors. I have bought seats in the yellow makai section before.


  273. greenthumb:

    To everyone who said "clear cookies," thanks. :)

    #250 Garret -- that description of Nevada's take on its bowl placement makes me feel a little better about Nevada winning. Odd that the fans won't travel.


  274. bb:

    Remember that the sun will be in your face for a bit if you sit mauka side.


  275. chawan_cut:

    mr. a-house,
    hope you guys are feeling better! no way to enjoy vegas sick! and to end it with that loss on friday.
    i won't be able to get to Sushi-Mon until March for the basketball tourney. eating sushi here just isn't the same....


  276. chawan_cut:

    duffer,
    replied!


  277. Calvin from Kona:

    thanks O.D. and bb. We usually sit Mauka but was pretty sure Makai for the bowl. I checked and they still have Orange level tickets so we going get em


  278. A-House:

    slugger:

    yep, we were there and it was a huge crowd - my guess-ta-mate is 1,200 - 1,500 fans.


  279. A-House:

    al:

    wasa matta - you know when i use "fa na tee cle" - yep, Hulk was there!!!!


  280. gigi-hawaii:

    ST,
    you got the year wrong in your last paragraph. 2012, not 1012.


  281. Kazz via DROID.X:

    Not an expert,

    When that much$ $$$ is involved, anything under-handed is possible.


  282. whitey:

    Evening to all the Tsaikos even tho it is still sunshiny here. Congrats to both the Warriors and da Wahines for their accomplishments and invite to the big dance. GO WARRIORS!!!! GO WAHINES!!!!!


  283. jm2375:

    Is it too early to talk about the t-gate fuud? Who's bringing what? :D


  284. madeinhawaii:

    Maybe the MWC schools should vote to invite BYU's non-football sports back into the MWC.. that would balance out Hawaii's football-only status. ... Furthermore, maybe that suggestion should come from Hawaii.

    This would be a gesture of good faith.. and getting BYU back into the MWC for their non-football sports might mean getting them back when TV contracts are re-negotiated.


  285. Kekoa:

    WTH?? Cobi Hamilton has pop warner reception numbers, and he is ahead of Alex Green! No way should we let this happen!

    :arrow: C'mon peeople VOTE for Alex!

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup


  286. madeinhawaii:

    I found out that I can set up Opera to add the links I want to go to and to clear our all my cookies whenever I close it.. then restart and vote again.. repeat.. vote again... voted about a dozen times today for Alex and Coach Mack.


  287. Curt:

    Good to hear Colt can walk around now...though he is wearing a neck brace per KGMB. Prayers continue for Colt, Shakti, and Dr Wang.


  288. madeinhawaii:

    forgot to mention.. Opera isn't my main browser.. just my voting one.. ;-)


  289. NorthShoreFan:

    jm2375...some are planning to bring some innards for deep frying...me still thinking about what to bring..been comtemplating some pork thing....


  290. Old Diver:

    OK, just voted thirty or forty times, calling it a night. Good luck to Alex Green.


  291. Ralph:

    Na Wahine wbb take on Portland on Saturday, Portland with a 7-2 record has quality wins over Boise State, Washington State and Air Force.


  292. Ralph:

    Portland State, Thursday's opponent, the Na Wahine will face a 3-2 team that they match up in size. PSU with quality wins over Tulane and Santa Barbara, and a one point lost to UDUB


  293. Ralph:

    NSF Rob and I are going to call the State Vector control center and letting them know that some of the "things" you will be cooking must not be for human consumption and illegal, or they should be labelled not for human consumption.


  294. SteveM:

    NorthShoreFan:
    November 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
    jm2375...some are planning to bring some innards for deep frying...me still thinking about what to bring..been comtemplating some pork thing....

    Northshorefan -- well, if you bringing the pork thing, bring the adjacent parts too... :lol:

    I'll probably be late so won't bring any pork to grill this week.


  295. Pomai:

    jm2375 I think this tailgate I will bring my appetite.


  296. Pomai:

    I said over two years ago that the WAC and MWC should merge to form a 18 team east/west conference with a championship game. Had they listened to me they would be an AQ conference already, without all the wasted money and time.


  297. robo01:

    Coach Mac has been brilliant in allowing Rolovich & Aranda to manage their squads independently this year. I like the way that Nick is evolving the Run & Shoot to soon be his own version of it and Dave is making a name for himself as a high quality defensive coordinator. Not sure if Mac has chosen to stay away from micromanaging these guys but if that is the difference this year, it sure has paid off.


  298. wafan:

    Good Tuesday to everyone!


  299. wafan:

    I suppose BSu has their focus on their end goal -- which is a good thing. But, they seem to have forgetten common courtesy along the way. At least it sure sounds that way in the quote above.

    I hope the UH has an ultimate goal for its sports teams, too. But, not at the expense of living aloha.


  300. wafan:

    300!


  301. Garret:

    I said over two years ago that the WAC and MWC should merge to form a 18 team east/west conference with a championship game. Had they listened to me they would be an AQ conference already, without all the wasted money and time.

    Pomai,

    The combined conference would actually NOT be an AQ conference--in fact, the combined conference would have been below C-USA for money also. Too many bottom feeders bring down the average, A 10-team (or 11-team) conference gets a 12.5% BCS point bonus, a 9-team (or 8-team) conference gets a 25% BCS point bonus, and a 12-team or bigger conference gets no bonus.

    So many schools at the bottom of the MWC and WAC add nothing to their TV contract value that all schools would take less in such a big conference--it isn't like they could get double what the MWC or WAC gets now. So, if the conferences merged then schools like BYU would have left even earlier...the top schools would leave and all the bottom feeders with no TV value would be left behind with UH.


  302. mctruck:

    Reading remarks this morning on other articles, the BW comish doesn't seem very enthusiastic about UH request for BW inclusion??...is it just me-o-what?? thus far, it seems to me like he has a bone to pick with UH, hmmmm??


  303. Pomai:

    I want a playoff.


  304. Pomai:

    If we did have a playoff I guess the wac would have to figure out how to name a single wac champion.


  305. Pomai:

    mctruck got links to that?


  306. Annoddah Dave:

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    @ Pomai: to determine a single WAC champion how's about Jan Ken Po? You could do it via teleconference with Karl Benson serving as referee!??? 2 out 3?


  307. Pomai:

    Annoddah Dave that would be good, but not with benson he wouldn't know how to call it.


  308. Annoddah Dave:

    Pomai,

    LOL! You're right! He wouldn't know a "stone" if it hit him on the head!


  309. rage777:

    Actually Benson would know what to call, because he would keep calling heads on a double headed coin. He would also choose Boise State every time.


  310. Slugger:

    Morning!


  311. Garret:

    The Ruston paper has an article that speculates that La Tech might get an invitation to C-USA soon.

    There’s the possibility of the University of Central Florida also exiting C-USA and heading to the Big East.

    Add, too, that Houston, Texas-El Paso and SMU might leave C-USA and join the Mountain West. Should two vacancies occur for C-USA, look for Tech and North Texas being two of the leading candidates.

    Tech has been in the Western Athletic Conference since 2001 but that league has been undergoing more changes lately than the plastic surgery updates on Heidi Montag.

    http://rustonleader.com/node/7278


  312. LizKauai -iPad:

    Aloha Kakahiaka!
    Busy morning already!
    Have a great Tuesday, everyone!


  313. mctruck:

    Pomai......If you are understanding my remarks to mean that there are concrete negative statements which the BW comish has made to that effect.......don't be looking for them; I am just reading between the lines, reflecting my gut feelings, on things said and not said....one such article is ferd's column just like a couple others I read on-line this moring which gave birth to my remarks.
    That's why I asked the question..."is it just me?"
    I must've read through a half-dozen articles about BW expansion this morning, and that's how I came forth with my observation, including ferd's column.
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  448. βρεω808:

    ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~
    ........OOOO….…….......OO………..OO.…...........OOOO….….
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  449. βρεω808:

    ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~
    ........OOOO….…….......OO………..OO.…...........OOOO….….
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    ……..OOOO..............……...OO.................……...OOOO..........

    ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~


  450. βρεω808:

    ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~
    ........OOOO….…….......OO………..OO.…...........OOOO….….
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    ……..OOOO..............……....OO.................……..OOOO..........

    ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~


  451. βρεω808:

    •~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•~~~~•
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  452. βρεω808:

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  453. βρεω808:


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    ...…TT……............SS..AA……...AA…….III…….KK……KK….…O....*+--+*....O….………...SS..i...
    ...…TT……..SSSSSS…AA…..…...AA...IIIIIIIIIII....KK………KK.……..OOOO.............SSSSSS...@.
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  454. βρεω808:


    ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·
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    ...…TT……...SSSSS..…..AAAAAA……....III….....KKKKKK…...O……...A..........O….SSSSS….M..
    ...…TT……………...SS...AA..…...AA..…...III…….KK…..KK…....O….\\…....//.....O...…….…SS..N..
    ...…TT……............SS..AA……...AA…….III…….KK……KK….…O....*+--+*....O….……….SS..i...
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  455. βρεω808:


    ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·
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    TTTTTTTT...SSSSS…...…..AA……..IIIIIIIIIIII…KK……..KK.............OOOO……..SSSSS...HH.
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    ...…TT……………...SS...AA..…...AA..…...III…….KK…..KK…....O…\\…....//...O...…….…SS..N..
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    ...…TT…….SSSSSS..AA…..…...AA...IIIIIIIIIII....KK………KK.……..OOOO............SSSSSS...@.
    ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·
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  456. βρεω808:


    ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·
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  457. βρεω808:


    ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸¸.·
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  458. βρεω808:


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  459. βρεω808:

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  461. βρεω808:

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  462. βρεω808:

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