Enemy of the state

May 27th, 2011
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Superman needs Lex Luther.

Batman needs the Joker.

Beverly Hills police need Lindsay Lohan.

The best rivalries need, well, rivals. Good, tough opponents. For the football Warriors, BYU and then Boise State served those roles.

And for three years in the 1990s, a bleach-haired guard with a swagger that matched his crossover dribble and straight-to-the-heart jumpers served as the UH basketball team's nemesis.

Chris Herren was the ringleader of the circus that was the Fresno State basketball team, which featured samurai-sword-wielding players and a towel-chomping head coach.  Herren endured years of alcohol and drug abuse, but is now clean, sober and author of "Basketball Junkie."

Here's an excerpt:

SMU was nothing compared to what happened every time we went to Hawaii, where I was the public enemy. I'd come through the tunnel and the whole arena would go nuts. People yelled, threw things, yelled some more. About point shaving. About rehab. "Fall River Nightmare." You name it, they yelled it. They hated me. And I'd blow kisses to them, which only made them crazier. As a sophomore, I had kicked in 35 against them, in a game that all but ruined their season. After we beat them by two in an NIT quarterfinal game one year, some guy dumped a beer on my head.

When I was there my last time as a senior, there was a big story in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, as if I were a folk hero.

"Tell them to show up," I was quoted about the fans. "I want to see ten thousand like I'm used to. I want to see the people who have been screaming at me the past two years."

"He plays with the crowd," Hawaii coach Riley Wallace said. "Most kids don't do that. But he acknowledges them, and they feed off that. And he feeds off them. Might be better to give him the silent treatment."

They didn't.

But they threw leis on the court in appreciation, so in the end, my teammates and I went on the plane wearing leis.

I loved Hawaii.

Has there ever been a UH opponent like that? BYU pitcher Peter Kendrick baffled the Warriors, but that was more for his skill than theatrics. Jim McMahon? The left-footed, rollout punt was classic, but he was a symptom of the overall BYU mania. UCLA coach Al Scates could induce heckles from volleyball fans, but a coach can't make winning plays.

Thoughts?

* * * * *

Received this e-mail:

it's stephen florino - formerly of khnl sports (with jason tang aka "spock").

read your blog and got a story about chris herren.

i was covering that game for the ka leo at the sheriff against fresno during the ac/alika years. i don't remember the game, but i know it was a big one. i remember herren killed us. after the game, i went to get an interview with herren. i chased him down the hall as he was walking toward the bus. told him who i was and he put his arm around me as we walked. i forget what i asked, but i remember the last question was "how does it feel like to be the most hated man in hawaii?" his response -- "i love it man, i love it." he shook my hand and left.
despite his antics, he was the coolest dude. i read about his life and book on yahoo recently. hope the best for him.

please share if you like.

aloha,
florino

* * * * *

And linebacker Brenden Daley is on the rock:

daley

* * * * *

For the first time in years, quarterback Bryant Moniz does not have a regular summer job. In his first two UH offseasons, Moniz famously delivered pizzas and, then last summer, worked as a Waikiki beach boy. He did not go on scholarship until last August. Moniz applied too late for a full-time position on the beach this year. Instead, he is training twice a day, studies football videos daily and nightly, and is attending summer session.

* * * * *

At today's workout, Allen Sampson grabs a pass from David Graves:

samp2

361 Responses to “Enemy of the state”

  1. BleedGreen808:

    First???


  2. BleedGreen808:

    Good morning, Mr. Tsai!


  3. SteveM:

    Second?
    Congrats BleedGreen808!
    .... I got lost after "Batman needs the Joker". :|


  4. BleedGreen808:

    Whoa where are all the early birdies???


  5. BleedGreen808:

    Good morning, SteveM! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.


  6. SteveM:

    BleedGreen808 -- are you home now? If not, what part of the world today?


  7. A-joe:

    Aaaaaaaahh.. Chris Herren; the classic Nemesis we all LOVED to hate! He drove us all NNUTZ!!! It was hilarious!!! That dude not only talked but walked the walk his ENTIRE career against us!

    No matter what we threw at him he'd somehow find ways to just beat us! Even our Dynamic Duo were no match for him.

    After all the crap we flung his way and the damage he inflicted on us I do recall him saying after his career that he loved Hawaii for we brought out the best in him.

    Honestly, it's awesome to hear he's doing good.

    Chris- continue to bring the fight you had on the court throughout your life. Love you, brah!!


  8. Stephen Tsai:

    A-Joe:
    I remember Kevin Hashiro, the future radio guy but then a student, holding up a sign: Chris Herren — Bite Me!


  9. Midnight:

    That was a nice piece about Chris Herren, and like A-Joe, I wish him well also. I would like to say a special hello to the above early morning posters! I don't think I would be awake at your time to post comments. I would be asleep so I could rise up early in the morning to head to the beach!!! You guys are really special!!! Now I am going to the treadmill. No beach here.
    Aloha y'all!


  10. Stephen Tsai:

    I had heard a lot about Herren, mostly from that book, "Fall River Dreams." But my first memory was the game at Fresno. He dunked on Micah Kroeger. Then, with Kroeger sitting on the court, Herren stared at him and started yelling.
    Thus, a rivalry was born.


  11. wafan:

    Good Aloha Friday, everyone!


  12. wafan:

    Bravo BaseBows!

    Whoo-hoo!!!


  13. Stephen Tsai:

    Re: Baseball
    Always better to start the tourney in the winners' bracket.


  14. wafan:

    Best to start any tourny in the winners bracket. Unless you like the increased stress and drama.


  15. Midnight:

    Hi Wafan, back from my treadmill bit. Don't you sleep before going to school? Catnap?


  16. wafan:

    Looks like this will be another weird summer for the PNW.

    The supposed non-existant global warming (really a minnomer) sure is causing problems with the jet-stream which is causing weather pattern problems.


  17. Midnight:

    On second thought, no, it is about time for an early riser to get up.


  18. wafan:

    Hi, Midnight!

    Wake up around kind of early in the morning all year long. No catnaps for me! Well, except on weekends.


  19. wafan:

    Visiting home during the summer it takes awhile to get used to the time difference. I wake up around 1a for the first bunch of weeks. Not much is on TV at that time in Hawai'i. HA!


  20. wafan:

    Time to get to school.

    19 more wake ups to go! 12 for most of the seniors!!!


  21. Midnight:

    Wafan - thanks for the info. Have a good day!


  22. wafan:

    One last thing

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-cfb/20110526/NCAA-USC.Championships/

    Looks like some bad news for USC.


  23. gigi-hawaii:

    I was up at 2 am today. Slept from 10 - 2. Wide awake now. Facing a day of watching my yr old grandson at 7:30 am.

    Don't know Chris, because I never watched sports much. And don't recall hearing hubby speak about him, either.

    Good reading your post, though, ST.


  24. anklebiters:

    D*amn it was hot yesterday at Hohokam :!: And it's to be even hotter today, triple digits. Game time is 4pm, it's going to be a scorcher, the temperature and the game :-) cYa there...


  25. Garret:

    Interesting article about how the BCS might grant the MWC its appeal and make the MWC an AQ conference for 2012 and 2013...then take away the AQ status if the MWC doesn't meet the criteria during the 2010-2013 evaluation period (when TCU's numbers will count for the Big East instead of the MWC).

    The MWC can keep AQ status by having its teams win their nonconference games, since the average computer ranking between conferences is determined by nonconference win percentage. Even with TCU's numbers counting for the MWC in this evaluation period, the MWC is currently behind the Big East. Add UH/Fresno/Nevada and take away TCU and the MWC will still be behind the Big East. Since apparently the antitrust lawsuit against the BCS would lose, the only solution for the MWC is to *win*. Win nonconference games and keep AQ status after 2013. Lose and lose AQ status. UH's performance on the field will be a big contributor to this.

    Let me be perfectly clear: there’s no chance the DOJ wins any antitrust argument with the BCS. This is not an antitrust issue; the world’s top antitrust attorney, William Monts, wouldn’t be on retainer with the BCS if there were any chance he’d lose.

    he final BCS poll will be released on Dec. 4, a day after the final games of the regular season decide who will play in the 14th BCS National Championship Game. Shortly thereafter, after the BCS crunches the four-year analysis numbers, the MWC will officially appeal to gain automatic qualifier status.

    And the BCS, if it’s smart, will announce very publicly and very proudly that the MWC has gained automatic qualifier status.

    Then say goodbye two years later.

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-05-26/bcs-would-have-a-hard-time-denying-mwc-entry


  26. Garret:

    UH was in the news for Inside Higher Ed...but I don't think it is ever a good thing to be used as this kind of example.

    For example, it was reported earlier this year that M.R.C. Greenwood, president of the University of Hawaii, has a compensation package featuring a $150,000-a-year expense account. It might take the president of a large community college four years or more to spend that much on his or her expense account.

    http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/05/27/community_college_presidents_and_expense_account_spending


  27. Stephen Tsai:

    I think if point-shaving is a crime, a federal one at that, because it affects the legitimacy of a game, then major NCAA violations involving the acquisition of players also should be a crime because that, too, affects several games.
    Vacating football titles have little impact because there are no financial penalties. Is USC, for instance, going to give back the money to the TV networks? Hit a school hard, such as making it forfeit revenue from the season in which the violation occurred, would send a better message.


  28. gigi-hawaii:

    So glad about the Mavericks facing the Heat next week. Can't think of a better match up than that.

    Expect to see fireworks between the 2 teams deep in the 4th quarter. Who will prevail? LeBron or Dirk?

    Can't wait!


  29. Michigan Warrior:

    Morning, everyone!

    Great write up, ST! I used to absolutely HATE Herren! I would always think, "I hope we can find a player like THAT, and do the same thing to everyone else". Our coaches in most sports are giving us that hope, all while raising the bar and meeting goals on academics.

    Go, UH!!!


  30. Lava:

    Wow, some real early birds around here.

    Herren had the talent.


  31. NYUH:

    Get story. I was out of the country and missed those games.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/711063-college-football-rankings-power-ranking-the-11-best-quarterbacks-for-2011#/articles/711063-college-football-rankings-power-ranking-the-11-best-quarterbacks-for-2011/page/6


  32. Bulla:

    Herren was the man, nothing like being cocky AND being able to back it up, loved it!!!


  33. Annoddah Dave:

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    Chris Herren was something to behold. As Bulla says, he was able to back up all the taunting. I thought he would have a great NBA career, but I guess the other stuff took the driver seat. I know he made it to the NBA as a bench player but cannot remember what team.


  34. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!!
    Happy Aloha Friday!

    Don't really remember Herren. I only remember the UH players!

    Off to the office. Gotta clean up and move files to new computer in prep for the office move. They told us yesterday that we report to the new office on Thursday instead of the following Monday. Yikes!


  35. twogreenfanatics:

    Moniz loading his guns for a Senior season ..can not touch him


  36. LizKauai -iPad:

    Aloha Kakahiaka! The best news of the day is the last part.
    Moniz for Heisman! Shhh... No campaigning... He's just going to earn it.
    yea!
    Hiho!


  37. dcwarrior:

    Garret, I don't think this guy's take is correct: "Let me be perfectly clear: there’s no chance the DOJ wins any antitrust argument with the BCS. This is not an antitrust issue; the world’s top antitrust attorney, William Monts, wouldn’t be on retainer with the BCS if there were any chance he’d lose."

    Monts is on retainer because the BCS agreed to pay him. What's he going to say, "sorry, I don't need $2 million in fees"?

    Why give a blogger any cred on this issue?


  38. OTO:

    I think the old San Diego St baseball coach Jim Dietz was a rival that UH fans loved to hate. I don't remember anything overt it was just his dour face and the way he would argue calls with the umps... I think to there was a time when UH was sweeping a series, it was a typically rainy Manoa night and some fans were on the SDSU dugout sweeping water off the roof and it was falling on the players. Dietz was going nuts... I think also no one liked the BYU basketball coach (can't remember his name but his two sons played for him). I remember them screaming at the refs when Trevor Ruffin hit the last second shot to beat BYU...


  39. gigi-hawaii:

    Good luck and best wishes to Moniz! Yay!


  40. haka:

    Go BaseBows!
    Beat da dawgs!
    Herren lies the problem! :)


  41. haka:

    #38
    Roger Reid


  42. haka:

    Have a great Memorial weekend all!
    Remember the fallen and embrace the standing!


  43. Big N:

    Does Josh Pacheco get paid by the word? He just tslked from 7:00 to 7:30 straight with one ad break. If his opinions were interesting it would be OK.


  44. rainbowbballer:

    Chris Herren, I am happy for him! If he had played for Hawaii, he would have been a legend of the Islands.


  45. chopsueyboy:

    We've had a customer for a couple of years that we just called Mr. K.
    Recently, he sent a tropical flower shipment to a Peter Kendrick in Texas.
    I recalled the WAC baseball championship games where Peter Kendrick pitched
    the double header and Mr. K confirmed that's his son.


  46. coach Wallace:

    Chris Herren was a very good college player and fun for the fans to watch. I am glad to hear he has straightened out his life. He did make Fresno St. our rival. Hope the baseball rainbow warriors can win the W.A.C. tourney. Go Rainbows


  47. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!


  48. chawan_cut:

    i believe UCLA's men's volleyball players were quite hated. i can't recall their names right now. but back in the yuval days, they were booed every time they touched the ball.
    and i'm proud to say i was one of those guys yelling at chris herren when he played here. we were all in the pep band still so we had to keep it tame but we could still yell although it didn't seem to work as he noted.


  49. Slugger:

    Good morning, gang!

    Study hard, Moniz!


  50. Slugger:

    anklebiters,

    Glad you can go to the BaseBows games in Mesa. Cheer for us, too.


  51. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good Morning Gangeez! :)

    No matter who are rivals are, in the end, they're all athletes and sportsmen. We have more in common than we don't. Nice finish to that story, where he says he loved Hawaii, and that folks threw lei to him after his last game here. That's Hawai'i. And ultimately, thats sports... the ties that bind. Best wishes to Mr. Herren wherever he goes and whatever he does. God be with him.


  52. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    But most importantly of all:

    GO WARRIORS!!!
    GO BASEBOWS!!!
    GO MONIZ!!!


  53. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good morning slugger! How's the mad russian these days?

    Hi Tom Mui!

    And special shout out to Jojo! ;)


  54. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    "who our rivals are" that should read above


  55. koakane:

    chopsueyboy #45 was that man a small built haole man? if so his name is buddy who married by step dads neice. they had one boy (peter) and two girls. all attended Radford but he also played for Pal Eldridge after high school season ended. got into BYU from pal. father videoed UH games and sent to son. thus he was well prepared before the double header which UH lost.

    also contributing to the poor showing was that UH couldn't hit lefty which peter was and he played against most of them since they were many hawaiian high school player playing for coach les in those days.


  56. koakane:

    by=my


  57. Turfwar:

    Good to hear from you Coach Wallace. Thank you for a lifetime of wonderful memories at the the Blaisdell Arena and the Sheriff Center.


  58. NorthShoreFan:

    Josh Pacheco is one dude who is able to have a conversation by himself and don't care if anyone's listening...imho


  59. midori7:

    Chris Herren! I really HATED that guy! He ALWAYS got the best of us. My brother & I still refer to him to this day w/a nickname I won't write here. Quite the competitor. Good to hear he's living the clean life.

    There was a SDSU basketball player w/last name of Betts. Can't remember his first name. He always did well against us.

    chawan: Paul Nihipali


  60. HawaiiMongoose:

    Re #22, I don't really care what the BCS does about USC's 2004 "national championship". It's only a mythical title. It wasn't earned through a playoff. Two other teams finished undefeated that season. Taking the "championship" away doesn't matter much when it was bogus to begin with.


  61. Manoa Mist:

    You want a a UH enemy of the state?
    Gene Stephenson of Wichita State. Had some classic battles with UH back in the 80s. I remember one baseball game he came up to the UH dugout and said he'd kick everyone's azz.
    The guy thought he was BJ Penn or something...


  62. Kazz:

    Yes indeed.

    Penalize the BCS payout cost to a BCS conference school and that will hurt those smug bastards where it matters the most!!!


  63. midori7:

    another UCLA MVB player: Adam Naeve


  64. d1shima:

    Great Morning All!

    Good to hear that Chris Herren has straightened out. Best wishes to him; great competitor.

    I recall the BYU TE who was flipping the bird to folks in the EZ after he scored a TD. Not that BYU needed anyone to further antagonize the Warrior faithful.


  65. d1shima:

    SJSU 6-2 over Reno, end 4th.


  66. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    d1-

    Byron Rex?


  67. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    That guy played and acted as if it were a matter of life and death and that he alone had to beat down UH and their fans. I'd bet he doesn't have any fond remembrances of Hawaii and its fans. :lol:


  68. GRM:

    Howzit Coach Wallace. Good to see you on the blog. Last saw you at the Cal this past January. Hope to see you again next January. You and your wife take care.


  69. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Hey Coach Wallace -

    Welcome to the WB. Nice to hear from you!


  70. d1shima:

    DPK,

    Das da guy. :evil:


  71. kendall:

    Paul Nihipali.


  72. Stephen Tsai:

    Yes, that was the real Riley Wallace. Just spoke with him.


  73. Stephen Tsai:

    Good call, Manoa Mist.
    Guess we should add Jim Dierz, too


  74. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    #72 -

    Way cool!


  75. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Dietz? The San Diego baseball coach?


  76. Slugger:

    Hi, coach Wallace!

    Saw you at the WCC BB tournament at the Orleans this past March.


  77. Slugger:

    DPK,

    The Russian was spotted earlier in the week, deluded in thinking he could garden in there again, destroying plants in another plot. Next time we see him doing any damage, we're going to have him arrested.


  78. d1shima:

    Dietz would drive fans crazy with his antics. Change pitcher, then change again after the guy threw ONE PITCH!

    SDSU also had their Ragger's Rail.


  79. d1shima:

    SJSU, 10-3 after 7


  80. Eagle:

    Yes ! ALSO Welcome to Coach Wallace -- AND Thank You for help with the Post-Season -- Although we MAY Be Biased, i'm Sure it took a Good, Legit Argument to get past any Continental Biases ....

    AND then the Team backed it up -- i'm SURE in the Future they won't suffer as many Chicago/OK.City type End-of-Game Collapses and WILL win their share of tight games -- due to Good-to-Great Defense, Options that the other team cannot quickly adjust to AND the ability to
    Score at Will either as a team OR with individual Moxy ...

    those were some of the things i remember Chris Herren (and Danny Ainge -- Arch Villain?) bringing to the court...BTW, when watching UH baseball (Go 'Bows @ WAC Championships!) i was just thankful Danny Ainge Went PRO...) --

    Stephen -- REQUEST that you please forward this (Whole BLOG) to Chris Herren 'cos he really could fill our Arena, as much as A.C. or Yuval and many of us just wished we would one day find a player like him -- SAVO was pretty close (I AM SAVO!); HATE is NOT the Opposite of LOVE -- it's actually pretty close just flipped around --Indifference IS and Hawai'i was never Indifferent to Herren... and i too am gratified that he is finding his way AND passing along the lessons ...

    d1 - Dean -- Thanks for the Updates


  81. seasider:

    #33
    Chris Herron collegiately played at Boston College and Fresno State under Coach Jerry Tarkanian.
    Herren was a 2nd round (33rd overall) of the 1999 NBA Draft. He played for the Nuggets and the Boston Celtics during his NBA career.

    #64 and #66
    Byron Rex, 1992 TE AA. Hawaii, FSU and BYU had identical 6-2 records in the WAC standings; FSU overall was 9-4, and FSU was 8-5. 1992 Thrifty Car Rental Holiday Bowl, Hawaii 27 Illinois 17.

    When Wahine volleyball was in the Big West Conference (1985-1996), Hawaii versus LBSU was the best rivalry in women’s volleyball. That rivalry ended when Hawaii departed the Big West in 1996 for the WAC.

    The rivalry took off in 1989 when Gimmillaro’s team beat Hawaii in the regionals finals, coming back from a 2-1 deficit. The 49ers went on to win the NCAA championship, the first of three. Long Beach would beat Hawaii in the postseason in 1990, 1991, 1993 and 1994. Long Beach won 12 of 14 meetings from that 1989 postseason through 1994.

    Per Gimmillaro, “some of our matches were the best college volleyball of all time. There’s no question in my mind; it’s just that the whole country didn’t see it. The country didn’t get to see both teams because one was always being eliminated in the regionals. The quality of those matches was great for the sport.”

    That rivalry will resume starting 2012.


  82. A-House:

    Chris Herren's dagger came to me when the Celtic's drafted him! Arrrrrrrgh!!!

    Mrs A-House's most unwanted coach is still Al Scates - "sit down al"!!!!!!!


  83. tommui:

    HOWDY DPK!


  84. LizKauai:

    coach Wallace... Welcome to the blog - how wonderful to see your post!


  85. mctruck:

    aoldotcom reports that former WNBA star player, (Margo Dydek), passed away from a heart attack at (37 y.o.). She was the #1 pick in 1998 with the Utah Starzz.
    Considered the tallest in womens pro-ball standing at,(7'2"). She left behind two children and was with a third in pregnacy when she passed away. Her husband was not very tall standing, (5'8").


  86. mctruck:

    Howdy, coach Wallace...hope everythings well with you and family?


  87. rage777:

    kendall:
    May 27th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Paul Nihipali.

    I agree. Everybody hated him and he loved it.


  88. d1shima:

    Reno is out.

    SJSU wins, 11-3 and plays LaTech at noon.


  89. haka:

    If I remember correctly, Nihipali was hated because he flipped the bird to the Stanley crowd during a match. And if I remember right, he regretted it on his return visit the next year as the crowd booed his every touch and the Warriors beat the sulking bears.


  90. Kazz:

    POMAI,

    NEED YOU TO CALL ME ASAP.


  91. chopsueyboy:

    koakane

    Mr. K is on the smallish side
    only know hiim as Mr. K but his initials are M. F.

    He does a lot of shows at exhibition hall.


  92. BleedGreen808:

    SteveM--

    Home.


  93. kruzen:

    Maybe he wasn't hated but Marshall Faulk ran and ran and ran....


  94. Stephen Tsai:

    Kruzen:
    Marshall Faulk is still going, I think.
    Even his successor — George Jones (?) — ran all around UH, too.


  95. chopsueyboy:

    How is it that we can stop wishbone rushing teams
    but have trouble with others like Wisconsin and San Diego State


  96. ai-eee-soos:

    in case anyone is interested ........

    The University of Hawaii is talking to Notre Dame and Wisconsin about scheduling home-and-home football packages, officials said.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/20110527_UH_talking_with_Notre_Dame_Wisconsin.html


  97. ai-eee-soos:

    95.chopsueyboy:
    May 27th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    How is it that we can stop wishbone rushing teams
    but have trouble with others like Wisconsin and San Diego State

    In the case of Wisonsin, "Physical superiority cancels out all theory".

    .... Marshall Faulk was just "too good".


  98. Stephen Tsai:

    I think UH was able to stop the triple-option teams — Navy, Army — because neither could pass. It's always had trouble against wishbone teams, particularly those coached by Dennis Franchione.


  99. Hawaiianbod:

    welcome Coach Wallace!


  100. kawika49:

    I remember watching M Faulk run against the, at the time bows. Sure looked like everyone else was jogging.


  101. Hawaiianbod:

    100


  102. d1shima:

    Pacific Tigers' Coach Chester Caddas


  103. Hawaiianbod:

    best wishes to Chris Herren on living the 'clean' life!


  104. d1shima:

    LaTech, 4-2. mid 4th


  105. Hawaiianbod:

    lets go rainBOWS!!!


  106. Hawaiianbod:

    beat fresNECK!!


  107. kruzen:

    Faulk made the bows look like they were jogging but he also did it in the NFL.


  108. Hawaiianbod:

    thanks for sharing your story, Stephen Florino! Wishing you the best wherever work finds you!

    oh, btw great first name! :smile:


  109. kawika49:

    BTW, just got finishing serving 32 homeless vets at our stand down.


  110. LizKauai:

    ST- NICE SHOT!!!!

    GO BOWS!!!!


  111. gigi-hawaii:

    one of the good things about LizK is that she always alerts us to new postings by ST.

    mahalo, huh!


  112. d1shima:

    SJSU takes the lead after 5, 5-4.


  113. RedZone:

    Fisher Deberry teams did a good job against us too.


  114. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    re: BCS antitrust suit

    Unless you are a sitting judge on the Federal bench who has reviewed both sides, I am not going to believe a word someone say about there being or not being a case...especially if its coming from some sports writer.

    The BCS hired the worlds best anti-trust attorney because they are probably going to need one to CYA.


  115. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Great to hear we are in discussion with South Bend and the Badgers about H-H series.

    It sure as hell beats playing the University of the Ozarks and DaWho State College that we have seen.

    Hoping for a Big 12 school to embrace us as well.


  116. Buffoman:

    That was our "Boris" (as in Dudley Doright cartoons), Chris Herron. Everyone's correct, we really hated that guy. What a competitor.

    I had a chance to speak with Marshall Faulk. His comment to me was he could not wait to come to play against UH when he was at SDSU. Whatever was ailing him in running stats were always cured after a game against us. He really like coming here and as a fan, I just hated it everytime he touched the ball.

    The difference between him and Chris was probably that Chris had no facemask so we all saw his smirks and grine everytime he burned us. Marshall probably did the same running for 300 yards and then some.

    Someone mentioned Jim Dietz. I hated that guys too.

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  119. NCAA:

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  120. RedZone:

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  122. NCAA:

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  124. Stephen Tsai:

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  126. Derek:

    Once upon a time, BYU was the mosted hated because we couldn't beat them in football. No that we can regularly, after giant killer Garrett Gabriel and Company annihilated the him I would say the most hated team right now is Boise State, only because that little State and that little university is so good for some reason. Imagine losing to a team from Idaho state, not Idaho St. Univ. We are envious of Boise's success in football and they are everything that we aspire and there is no reason why we can beat them every year. Frankly, I think the reason is because Chris Peterson is just a great coach and knows how to get the most out of his players. Before Peterson, Boise St. was pretty good, but not like they are now. The fact that they lost to Nevada shockingly last year shows there is some hope that maybe things will change in the very near future, like when Kellen Moore leaves after this upcoming season.....hehe, hehe!


  127. Kazz:

    Mark Fox and Margie Wright


  128. NCAA:

    Drinking alcohol?


  129. papajoe2:

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  130. d1shima:

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  134. Kazz:

    Kazz:

    May 27th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
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    NCAA:

    May 27th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
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    more like punching and eating babies.


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  137. NCAA:

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  143. d1shima:

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  144. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    John L.* Smith = Michigan State coach.


  145. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    RE: Paying for the "true cost" of education for student athletes

    First of all, we should all be skeptical when words like "student athlete" or "helping our scholarship athlete" are spewed from the mouth James Delany...This coming from the man that said "If we had a NFL-style playoff, we would make 3x 4x MORE MONEY than the current system in place"

    If this "idea"...and its just that an IDEA, were to somehow make its way to become the rule, can UH afford an extra $1M a year to keep up?


  146. Kekoa:

    Mauimon ~ One can only imagine the outrage from the parents!


  147. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    RE: Auto AQ bid for 2 years

    I agree that we need to do what we can to ensure we help elevate the MWC by winning our OOC games. We have the perfect opportunity this year to do well since both BCS teams CU and UW combined are part of the weaker half of the PAC12.

    We should also hope (hope hard) that the bottom dwellers of the MWC (read: UNM, UNLV, UW) can step it up and win their OCC games as well. If these teams can do even 20% better than previous years, and the upper crust like Boise St. continue to do well, there is no way the BCS should be able to deny us access.

    It really is in the hands of the bottom of the MWC at this point.


  148. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    This is the article I am referring to in #145...for those that have not read it yet.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15164842/divide-might-be-coming-but-which-leagues-will-conquer


  149. d1shima:

    Dis is not gonna be easy....


  150. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #149,

    Yep...very very hard. UNLV has always been called a "sleeper" program in football etc...well that hasn't developed into anything. I don't know much about the direction of UNM and Wyoming.

    AF is solid...SDSU (with their 1 good season last year) will hopefully hold its own.

    Its a tough fight but if these schools want the money, they better be in it to win it.


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  152. Kazz:

    iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    May 27th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
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    One of many whining little b------- that have fallen on Hawaiian soil to a better team that day.


  153. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #152,

    Amen


  154. Kazz:

    cheepono:

    May 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
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    Doesn't even deserve to be reminisced...


  155. Kazz:

    Little League????

    What a JOKE!!! REALLY?????????? That coach got that upset over a Little League game? REALLY??????? really? REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What's his damage? Got cut from his high school baseball team? Never got a college baseball schollie????

    LOSER!!! Reminds me a lot of some of these parents that get out of hand at youth sporting events.

    Nothing but a bunch of sore losers reliving their own past athletic failures and living vicariously through their kids and teaching them piss poor habits early on.

    I better stop talking now before Da Hui of da fields start talking again...


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    3-8 at the stretch. :-(


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    what would you do for a Klondike bar?


  169. LizKauai -iPad:

    Looks like the basebows are going to need a sweep in rallye scoring to win this tourney. Still alive!
    Let's Go, Bows!


  170. Slugger:

    GO BASEBOWS!!!

    Have to go moe moe...been up too late with friends for the past week. Night!


  171. al:

    hmmm...rally scoring in baseball, eh?


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  173. al:

    klondike bar...hmmm. haven't had one in years.
    what would i do???


  174. al:

    welcome to hawaii brenden daley...i see that you don't adhere to the 2" rule.


  175. al:

    each year as the new recruits roll in to town...one asks.

    who has made it through the academic hurdles?
    who is left behind to complete the requirements?
    who will come in to replace those who didn't make it?
    who will report to the unofficial workouts?
    who won't report to the unofficial workouts, which by the way are as important as the official workouts.
    who will show up in fall camp in shape?
    who of the new recruits will make the biggest impact and become instant heroes?
    who will be the most improved of the returnees?

    ah...the excitement begins.


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  177. al:

    one man's opinion on the mwc/bcs dealings...

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-05-26/bcs-would-have-a-hard-time-denying-mwc-entry?utm_source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral


  178. whitey:

    al, you hire the top attorney(s) for any court preceedings cause you neva know what going happen in court or congress. reporters are paid to write and report stories, but when a reporter tries to insert thier legal decisions or conclusions to the story, he or she loses their creditability. the bcs likes to think that they are not going to lose, but stranger things have happened when congress makes laws. title ix is a very good example.


  179. whitey:

    al, sorry about not having lunch, but there is always the next time.


  180. whitey:

    one of the huge questions is how does the bcs give exemption to the independents and not to all div 1a conferences?? favoritism, preferential treatment, prejudices, disdain, etc are all part of the bcs and they will have to answer all of those question.


  181. whitey:

    with usc on probation and not allowed to participate in bowls for 2 years, will their win lost count?? they are crooks along with ohio state. so the bcs rewards conferences for schools on ncaa probation or those who violate ncaa rules. what a joke!!!


  182. al:

    4bottom line is the bottom line = $$$


  183. whitey:

    tennessee is another crook who got caught.


  184. al:

    btw, your pickling skills should go commercial.


  185. al:

    i think that the buckeyes will soon change their names to blackeyes.


  186. al:

    but, tennessee has a very big cookie jar.


  187. whitey:

    the money is what got the men's sports in trouble a few years back and that is what created title ix. the major argument was that men's sports brought in money to cover the programs, so they should not be penalized, but lo and behold, they got their butts whipped. ao they still no learn and this time, they going get one bigger ass kicking.


  188. whitey:

    nah, it is much more fun to make something good, give it away and watch them smile.


  189. whitey:

    blackeyes is appropriate


  190. al:

    the boss is smiling.
    she kapu the bottles.


  191. whitey:

    will be making another batch tomorrow, so got to rest.


  192. whitey:

    ok, just was checking and the top of the small mountain is just around the corner, so going to contiue to climb.


  193. whitey:

    dang, started this batch with 10 gallons, but after curing and drying, now get less than 5. like you say, practice makes mo bettah.


  194. whitey:

    going do another mango delight and that one is guaran to broke da mouth.


  195. whitey:

    hope the basebows get back their hitting tomorrow.


  196. whitey:

    this daley appears to look like a player. welcome to da warriors.


  197. whitey:

    what mauimom wrote about little league on maui, this is not the first time and it won't be the last time something like this happens. when i was asked to coach the little kids, i refused at first because of how the parents and coaches act at the games.


  198. whitey:

    couple more and al will fill in the frosting


  199. whitey:

    ok, good night


  200. Curt:

    200


  201. Curt:

    Thanks whitey. Al must be snoozing...again.


  202. Curt:

    I guess al needs his beauty sleep more than I thought. In that case, I guess he gets up in about 10 years. :)


  203. Curt:

    I'm surprised about the Aussie recruit. I thought the eligibility clock starts right after high school.


  204. Curt:

    Getting a kick watching "River Monsters" on Animal Planet.


  205. al:

    curt...i was away in the kitchen. all that talk about whitey's now famous pickled mango made me ono for one...so,i did.


  206. al:

    hate to say this, but, that coach should be banned from coaching in the little league association.

    more than one punch indicates some anger management issues.


  207. Stephen Tsai:

    Curt:
    The eligibility clock starts once a person is a full-time student.
    UH is going after a guy who was a part-time student for a few years. The guy already has accumulated 56 credits, even though he has been a full-time student for only two semesters. He has four years to play three seasons.


  208. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    I have my doubts about Congress intervening and the DOJ making a winning argument that would put an end to the BCS. I am one who believes that when it comes to a word like "antitrust"...us common folk and even most attorneys or those with legal training do not understand the complexities. Therefore we (the common folk) can throw around that word all we want because it seems, feels, and looks like an antitrust violation but it may in fact not be. It's like discrimination...so many times it may seem, feel, and look like discrimination, but in eyes of the law it is not.

    The fact that the BCS has retained the worlds top attorney on antitrust says everything and absolutely nothing. What did it mean when OJ hired arguably the best defense attorneys in the world like F Lee Bailey, Alan Dershowitz, and Barry Scheck?


  209. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Being the slow thinker, I just realized the huge difference between billion dollar TV deals and BCS bowl payouts...While the payouts are nice, they are the coins jingling in ones pocket compared to media deals.

    Pac-12 TV deal is like 2 billion dollars...PLUS there are secondary media rights that Larry Scott has claimed is worth another billion or so. That is anywhere between $20,000,000-$40,000,000+ per school!

    The BCS distributes something like $150,000,000 to ALL BIG SIX CONFERENCES...If we were given the same payout as the PAC-12, we are talking like an additional $1M per school in the MWC...Nice but not impressive right?

    BCS AQ status is the "ultimate goal" that the MWC wants...but what they really want is a fat mofo TV deal. And unfortunately...viewership, TV sets, and a pretty name is what drives these deals...The MWC lacks that from what I can tell.

    The MWC can get its BCS status...but putting lipstick on a pig wont make it worth $200,000,000/year.

    It comes down to what we want and what we can reasonably expect. If MWC gets the AQ status, there will be a lot of people out there that will think we are now on equal playing field with PAC12 or Big 10 when that will simply not be the case.


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