Raw ambition

May 28th, 2011
By

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For backup quarterback David Graves, the reward for a day of two summer-session classes and two workouts, including one in the unforgiving heat, is his favorite meal: Brown rice and poke.

"Oh, yeah, I love poke," said Graves, who was raised in Northern California. "We had an introductory session in class, and I put that down as my favorite food. I love fresh fish, uncooked fish. We have a lot of good seafood in Northern California. I loved seafood before I got here. Poke is perfect. Poke is all muscle. It's lean and protein."

As a second-year freshman in 2010, Graves volunteered to serve as the blocking back on kickoff returns and as an emergency safety. This year, he will focus entirely on playing quarterback. Starter Bryant Moniz and Shane Austin are entering their senior seasons.

Graves will stay in Hawaii through the end of June, then train in California for about four weeks. In California, he will work with two coaches — Patrick Gallagher, who teaches speed training, and Troy Taylor, who was a four-year starter at California. Graves said  he also will continue to follow training guidelines set up by UH offensive coordinator Nick Rolovich and conditioning coach Tommy Heffernan.

Gallagher runs Pure Athletics.

"I'll be doing a lot of cone drills, a lot of work on starts and moving laterally," Graves said.

Taylor offers instruction on going through progressions, "just a whole bunch of situational stuff," Graves said. "Playing quarterback is more mental than physical. He helps me with the mental side of the game."

In Hawaii, Graves has been working on his passing and conditioning. For instance, after completing a long pass to a receiver, Graves will sprint down to the other end of the field, then run the ensuing play in the opposite direction. He will end up sprinting as many times as the receivers.

Graves also has spent a couple of hours each day studying football videos. He's gone through UH's 2006 and 2007 seasons —record-setting years for quarterback Colt Brennan — studied all of Moniz's throws, and now is watching Jeremiah Masoli's plays. Masoli, a Saint Louis School graduate, played for Rolovich at City College of San Francisco before going on to Oregon and then Mississippi.

"Masoli attacks the field," Graves said. "He's a good runner, he's quick, he's a playmaker. That's what I want to do. I want to learn how to buy time. I want to be a dual quarterback: Throw from the pocket or on the run. I want to improve in every aspect of my game."

g2

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Happy birthday to Brie Adams, a recent Castle graduate and future Warrior athlete.

388 Responses to “Raw ambition”

  1. al:

    1


  2. ai-eee-soos:

    mornin'


  3. al:

    curt...1st is better than 200


  4. ai-eee-soos:

    way to go David - keep working hard.

    Good Luck to you, and the team, this coming season.


  5. al:

    it is dedication, work ethic, talent, and the ability to incorporate the mental aspect of the game with the physical that makes a great player.


  6. al:

    i hope the season allows david graves to see some meaningful reps in given situations.


  7. ai-eee-soos:

    ST: this part-time student who has 56 credits - is he a "local" prep ?


  8. ai-eee-soos:

    Brenden Daley: Welcome aboard.

    I look forward to seeing you play at middle linebacker.

    I especially enjoy watching our MLB blowing up those plays coming up the middle.

    Good Luck to you, Brenden.


  9. midnight:

    Happy birthday to Brie Adams!

    Good morning to all the Tsaikos! Especially to the early bird posters!


  10. Garret:

    David Graves has a real shot to take over after Moniz leaves and have an excellent career at QB. I'm glad that he's concentrating on just QB this season because he needs to prep for his chance...plus, there is always the chance of injury (see: 2008 for an example) and UH needs to have several QBs ready to go.


  11. midnight:

    Hi Al! I guess I should call you a late bird, instead of an early bird!

    I am football deprived! Can't wait for football to begin!

    Go Warriors!


  12. wafan:

    Good morning, Tsai-kos!


  13. wafan:

    Good start to the three day weekend!


  14. Garret:

    dcwarrior,

    You are of course correct and the anti-trust issue isn't definitively settled on either side of the BCS. Over this past week I've come to think that a variety of issues will result in the MWC getting their petition granted to become an AQ conference in 2012 and 2013...so, UH will be in an AQ conference even though none of its games will have counted for the MWC in that evaluation period.

    Several things that could change the situation:

    1. If the MWC has a horrible year this year in nonconference games, that would seriously hurt the petition. Even more importantly, the public perception would turn against the MWC and the BCS would have cover to deny AQ status then. If the MWC has a great year, I think AQ status is definitely there.

    2. If TCU wins the MWC and is the only MWC school ranked in the top 10 this season, it will be really hard for the MWC to keep AQ status after 2013. Nevada beating BSU last season means that the MWC relied on TCU for the highest ranking school in one BCS criteria. Even worse would be for every MWC school aside from TCU to have at least 2 losses this season...parity would kill the MWC's chances in one BCS criteria.

    3. If the bottom of the MWC improves, the MWC will probably be able to keep AQ status after 2013. Their bottom teams are the reason why the Big East is ahead of them in the average computer ranking category even though TCU counts for the MWC for now--once TCU counts for the Big East, the Big East will *dominate* over the MWC unless UNLV and New Mexico improve. I think that Wyoming will improve--they won a bowl game in 2009 and they have been upgrading their budgets and program (luxury boxes in their football stadium, etc.).

    I think that the prudent play for the BCS would be to admit the MWC as an AQ conference due to the results in the 2008-2011 evaluation period. This evaluation period is *only* for adding new AQ conferences, none of the current AQ conferences are being evaluated during this period. However, when all AQ conferences are evaluated after the 2010-2013 evaluation period, the MWC will need to be in the top 6 in at least 2 of the 3 categories...and highest ranked team, number of top 25 teams, average computer ranking.

    I'm glad that UH's top 25 BCS finish (since bowl games don't count) will count in the 2010-2013 evaluation period. It would be great if UH could supply the team that the MWC needs in the top 10 every year...but if UH doesn't do it, the only team I think could do it for the MWC this season is BSU. TCU winning the MWC this season would be awful for the MWC in terms of the AQ criteria and in public perception.


  15. Garret:

    The other thing that could happen is that the BCS could change its evaluation criteria after the 2013 season, since the current BCS contract expires then. The key to ALL criteria, to public perception, and to gathering fans and TV ratings is simple: win a lot of games on the football field.


  16. wafan:

    Good article today by Ferd.

    Thanks to all our warriors and to Coach Mack.

    Warrior pride!


  17. Garret:

    From what I read, the following schools did not reach the NCAA required 15,000 attendance level for football games last season:

    Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Idaho, San Jose State, Western Kentucky, and Western Michigan

    If the AQ conferences are tired of splitting money with so many non-AQ schools, one thing that they could easily do is have the NCAA enforce the minimum attendance rule. That could end the WAC and MAC and result in less non-AQ conferences to split the BCS money with.

    This would not be creating a new rule, this would be enforcing a rule that the NCAA has been warning schools about for years. If fans don't care enough about their games to go, that limits the upgrading those schools can do and shows a lack of support for the schools.

    If 8-10 D-IA schools dropped to D-IAA, would the added money going to the other schools (since there would be less schools splitting the BCS money) strengthen the rest? If a school has been getting less than 10,000 people to attend its football games, should it have gotten the same amount of BCS money that UH got last season?


  18. Garret:

    One *big* problem with a playoff system to me is that too few games can be played (each team can play just 1 per week instead of 2 like in basketball), which limits the number of spots available. I can easily make the argument that the MWC (and the WAC with BSU/UH/Nev/Fresno) deserved an auto-bid to a playoff, but then the Sun Belt and MAC would require auto-bids also...and they honestly don't deserve spots in place of second or even third place teams from other conferences.

    The MAC could not even exist if the 15,000 minimum attendance was enforced, even though MAC schools get to count anyone in their stadium, even people there with FREE tickets. The TV game (which is how the playoff system makes its money) that involves them will get low ratings, which means that the playoff system's revenue would be crippled by having undeserving MAC and Sun Belt teams there.

    One thing I would do with a playoff system is eliminate conference title games--that would give an extra week for the playoff, which would double the number of teams in the playoff. One format could have:

    Pac-12 North champion
    Pac-12 South champion
    Big 10 division champion
    Big 10 division champion
    ACC Atlantic champion
    ACC Coastal champion
    Big 12 North champion (they would expand to have 12 teams again)
    Big 12 South champion
    SEC East champion
    SEC West champion
    MWC champion
    Big East champion
    C-USA champion
    3 at-large spots (independents, champions of MAC/SB if they are ranked high enough, highly ranked teams that don't win their division)

    When UH faced Georgia in the Sugar Bowl in 2007, Georgia was the second place team in their SEC division and didn't even play in their title game...a playoff system cannot ignore teams like that because I think that Georgia could have won a playoff that year.

    If you *force* the MAC, Sun Belt, and new WAC champions to get auto-bids to the playoff, I don't think that the playoff system works...unless maybe you add a 5th week where you have play-in games so the playoff includes 20 teams instead of 16.


  19. mctruck:

    Garret, ur #17.......

    How much $$ did UH get?


  20. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good Morning Gangeez! :)

    Top Twenny.

    Watched a litle bit of Graves' younger brother Dano on a HS rerun tonight. What an athlete! His team Folsom was pouring it on the 4th quarter and Dano was makig big plays all over the field. The younger Graves will be worth watching at Air Force Academy, a very talented if slightly undersized QB.

    So glad we have David here as a Warrior. He'll be a big contributor down the line, maybe even this season.


  21. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Howdy to all you mainland early birds!

    Love ur breakdowns of the scenarios du jour as usual, Garret.


  22. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Happy Birthday Brie! Had a great time talking story with you and Mama Jam at Wahine Softball senior night.


  23. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    cue coquis...
    back to bed for me.


  24. LizKauai (macbook):

    Aloha Kakahiaka!
    Go David!
    Go BaseBows!


  25. Michigan Warrior:

    Morning, everyone!

    Happy birthday and conGRADulations, Brie!

    Love to hear stories of how our Warriors, Wahine, and 'Bows are working to better themselves!


  26. Lava:

    I think David is our qb of the future, and he needs to see quality time on the field this year at qb. I know that isn't going to be easy, but otherwise we are going to enter next year without an experienced guy in the wings ready to go.


  27. Maverick:

    Go, Go, Go Graves
    Bring that work ethic to the table for competition

    Geronimo!
    USA!


  28. d1shima:

    Great Morning All!

    A lot of work on the road to be a Warrior.

    Looks like David Graves is on his way.


  29. d1shima:

    Happy Birthday Brie!


  30. d1shima:

    We are not alone.


  31. d1shima:

    Have a terrific day erryboddy!

    HiHo...


  32. bigislandkurt:

    Looking good Graves! Keep your head on tight and don't get distracted by all those beautiful sistas chasing after you! Might be a tall order. Keep getting better and keep getting wiser. Along with the mental and physical demands of playing QB, maturity is key also. Keep moving forward brother. You are the future of the position.

    BIK


  33. LizKauai (macbook):

    Hauoli Lahanau, Brie AND JAM!!!!


  34. gigi-hawaii:

    Hi, Tsaikos!

    Happy birthday, Brie!

    Great post about David, ST! Good luck to him.


  35. WWF:

    Nice to see David improving and taking summer as an opportunity to hone his skill set at QB. He looks like he is putting on good weight. I look forward to seeing him on the field with some playing time this season.


  36. BG:

    Good morning folks!

    Liz...Happy birthday for BOTH Brie and JAM? WOW!

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOU TWO!!!


  37. Slugger:

    Good morning, gang!!!

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BRIE!!!


  38. Slugger:

    Nice write-up on Graves.

    GO WARRIORS!


  39. Slugger:

    Congratulations on your graduation, Brie!

    Happy Birthday, JaM!!!


  40. BG:

    I'm ecstatic to have a quality person like David Graves who embraces the Warrior culture and spirit! Having representatives of the program like this will only burnish the program's image in years to come just like "Da Bess" is doing. Sadly, it wasn't too long ago when players' names were appearing on the police blotter. June had a few, but kept improving the quality, and Mack has solidified it. Kudos


  41. wafan:

    Happy birthday to JAM and Brie!

    Whoo-hoo!!!

    Whoo-hoo!!!

    Slick way of celebrating your birthday with another birth day!


  42. wafan:

    The only "cool" things around my birthday is tax day and the day President Lincoln died.

    Yippee-skippee.

    Uhhh, yeah.


  43. BG:

    I'm just having a classic ole fut's moment [shaking head with look of wonderment] and thinking out loud..."It was only the other year that Brie (with JAM) showed up at the t-gate as a fairly new teenager..." Then, of course, the classic's classic..."My, how time flies!"

    Congratulations on your graduation, Brie! and the start of another chapter in your life!


  44. Pomai:

    al I can remember that you and I had said over a year ago that David is the future of UH football and it looks like we were right.


  45. tommui:

    GOOD MORROW HAWAII!

    And congratulations and happy birthdays.

    AL never sleeps!


  46. Stephen Tsai:

    ai-eee...
    The prospect is at a JC. Usually you need 24 credits to transfer (as a qualifier) and 48 (as a non-qualifier). I think he's the former. But he amassed the majority of his 56 credits while enrolled as a part-time student, so his clock only started last year.


  47. warriorsun:

    if graves improves his passing accuracy his attack mode will work in the rns. but he must be colt-like accurate and stay healthy--otherwise opposing teams will come at him full-throttle, force him to unload and beat them with his arm downfield. Grave's passes werent sharp in the spring game so hopefully he throws the ball in 3-digit volume every day in calif. He will be missing voluntary 7 on 7 sessions @ lower manoa during July with warrior receivers....uncommon for a primary backup.


  48. mctruck:

    Kawika looks like one LB!? Go for eeet, young man!!


  49. JaM:

    Happy Birthday to Brie!! my football partner!!

    But tis not my bday...

    Off topic: I am doing some research info gathering of Rainbow Relays and previous UH track team, records ....anybody with leads etc please let me know...thanks in advance..


  50. gigi-hawaii:

    So Graves likes poke? Not safe enough for me, so I never eat it.

    After her kidney transplant, singer Natalie Cole was advised by her doctors to NOT eat poke or sashimi because of the parasites and worms.


  51. Brie:

    Thank you for all of the birthday wishes everyone:)

    although I'm not 100% sure about making it onto the Wahine XC team.. I'm gonna try walking on!:)

    ...off to a track meet now.


  52. Stephen Tsai:

    We all have friends and family members with addictive personalities — most pour it out into fantasy football; some get into drugs, alcohol or gambling. I've got a friend who's always chasing the next adrenaline rush; she said skydiving became boring after the second jump.
    Which brings me back to my theory of college football. The big conferences are getting bigger and bigger, earning more and more television money. And TV entities are paying out more and more money. Now, the way it is, the BCS bowls are the big money makers. But as the regular-season contracts become more outrageous — think the Pac-12, Big Ten, Texas, BYU, Notre Dame, etc. — it's going to put more pressure on the BCS bowls to become more lucrative. So where do the BCS bowls/networks turn? Except for the Rose Bowl, the other non-championship BCS games are interesting, but not that outrageous money interesting.
    Thus, as the television payouts grow during the regular season, it's going to force the BCS to advance to the next high ... a playoff system.
    Now will the playoff system be practical for the student-athletes? Of course not. But not sure the BCS really has the students/alumni in mind. Now boosters will mind if they have to move all over the country for playoffs. But, face it, in a playoff, it would be Boise State playing in Florida, not Florida going out of the South.
    It's going to be money doing all of the talking.


  53. Stephen Tsai:

    JaM:
    All I know is that Derek Inouchi has folders of past UH track seasons in his office. They're in binders. The track team is trying to compile records, but Inouchi is releasing the binders one at time — want a binder? Return the first one first.
    Now I know they have detailed records of the resurrected women's track team.
    Not sure of the records during the pre-hiatus years.


  54. gigi-hawaii:

    ST, let's see it happen. I am all for excitement and MORE AND MORE excitement! So much better than babysitting... lol


  55. gigi-hawaii:

    my youngest sister was awarded a track scholarship at UH during the 1970s. Remember her admiring her coach, Duncan MacDonald. Wonder what he's up to these days.


  56. Stephen Tsai:

    DPK:
    Interesting that you mention watching Graves' younger brother.
    Graves said he studies videos of his brother's games, too.
    "He did a lot of good things on film," Graves said.
    That was the interesting thing. Most guys wouldn't admit to trying to learn from a younger sibling. Graves isn't like most guys.


  57. Stephen Tsai:

    Gigi:
    I'm not sure it will happen that way.
    But the MWC wants to be an AQ because it would get a bigger share of the pie.
    But if the BCS schools are getting paid big during the regular season, they're going to want something more from their postseason games.
    There's never a point where people feel they have enough money.


  58. Stephen Tsai:

    Re: 7 on 7:
    Most of the Mainland guys are in the first summer session. Many will be going home for at least a couple of weeks in July.
    Graves graded out well in Hilo and during spring practice, and every play is recorded and rated. He'll be fine.


  59. gigi-hawaii:

    ST, hubby predicted today that more colleges will schedule their games for Sundays because of the lockout.

    But, isn't it too late for that? Aren't schedules already set for the year?


  60. gigi-hawaii:

    Anyway, I predict the lockout will end when the season starts, because the owners stand to lose more money if it doesn't.


  61. A-joe:

    I don't like the idea of small inferior teams being denied playoff entrance simply because of their size or attendance record. If that's the case then that standard should be applied to ALL NCAA sports. Even women! I guarantee you that idea won't fly.

    If an inferior Sunbelt team gets in, so be it. If they get blown out in the first round, tough! But I'll tell you one thing- if the playoff system goes into effect, it will eventually bring parity to the D-1 landscape. You won't have big name programs stacked 3 deep with idle talent anymore. Those would be second and third string talent will instead go to programs that'll give them playing time. Women's athletics have proven this notion to be true. Men's basketball have done the same.

    If revenue is divvied up evenly those inferior programs will have a chance to eventually boost up their programs. It sustains overall survival. Pro leagues have found this practice to be way more profitable.

    All I wanna know is who amongst our Warrior men are committed to preparing themselves to represent Hawaii in the fall season. Who amongst them have the burning desire to bring us a national championship.

    Honestly, if we suck, all this conference movement/BCS gibberish is moot.


  62. al:

    well good morning tom.


  63. al:

    pomai...wooohooo.
    we've finally agreed upon something.
    hahaha. jus jokin.

    great job on leading up the softball booster team!


  64. al:

    ummm. so what qb doesn't need to improve his accuracy?


  65. warriorsun:

    graves will gone for 4-weeks in july. he is a qb, cant compare to others. 7 on 7s are crucial for this position.
    most of his passes he completed in the spring game were short tosses. his passes were not crisp otherwise. i realize this was a spring game, but others across the country threw accurately, especially huskie keith price-- a multi-dimensional qb that likes to run and throw too. as i mentioned, graves needs to improve his velocity and accuracy.


  66. Stephen Tsai:

    I always thought the owners of sports teams were billionaires who just used their extra cash on their teams.
    Then I learned that most of the stadiums owners bought still have mortgages on them. So now I see the motivation for the owners wanting tens of millions more apiece from the revenue pie. And if I were the players I would be sympathetic, EXCEPT .. the owners won't open up their books. Owners know how much the players are getting because they're paying the players. But if there collective-bargaining agreement, it would be helpful to know what the other side is getting.


  67. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!!

    Happy Birthday Brie and congrats!
    Best wishes on your tryout for the Wahine cross-country team.
    Will you be occupying your usual seat or will you be in the student section for football?


  68. al:

    congratulations brie!


  69. gigi-hawaii:

    Re #66 -- hmmm. Reminds me of the newspaper war in Honolulu...


  70. Stephen Tsai:

    You're right in that it was just one event.
    He is very accurate, otherwise. And he graded out high in spring. He's been working out regularly since January. Plus, he'll be throwing a lot in California. He has a good rapport with the receivers having thrown every day last year to Ostrrowski, Bright, Sampson, etc. He'll be fine.


  71. al:

    with two kids in college...it would be tough to fund an extra month away from home.

    uh pays for two summer sessions. i guess graves and others will take advantage of the first session and then the bridge session which takes them right into the fall camp. scholarship monies extend for that period of time.


  72. Stephen Tsai:

    I wouldn't worry about UH quarterbacks.
    I'm pretty sure UH will out-pass Nebraska next year.


  73. gigi-hawaii:

    It would be interesting to know how many scholarship players have part time jobs.

    Moniz quit his pizza job when he got a schollie. But what about other athletes?


  74. Stephen Tsai:

    Al:
    UH has two regular summer sessions. UH only pays for one of them.


  75. Stephen Tsai:

    Gigi:
    Moniz quit his pizza job because he got a better-paying job as a beachboy last year.
    Scholarship players don't have full-time jobs, anymore. They're always training. They don't some temp work, like helping with construction projects or serving as bouncers. But not during the season.


  76. RedZone:

    ST have you got any numbers on seasons ticket holders who are getting bumped from their current seats to make way for students? How many have chose not to renew?


  77. gigi-hawaii:

    Does Timmy Chang still have his Subway franchise in McCully?


  78. Stephen Tsai:

    I think they're going to be releasing ticket info pretty soon.
    Ferd handles that. He likes money stories.


  79. Unkanesson:

    Howzit Tsaiko Nation!

    ST - Thanks for the story on Graves. I didn't see the Spring game, but at the Big Island scrimmage, he impressed me as having the strongest arm among the QB's. His TD pass to Miah was a good 20-25 yards on a rope. He'll need to develop discipline to make his physicality and athleticism an asset as a dual-threat QB. I'm looking forward to seeing him get playing time this season and in the future.


  80. Stephen Tsai:

    Gigi:
    Not sure what Chang is up to these days. I think his wife/girlfriend (?) gave birth last year. She's from Canada, so they both went there for the delivery. At least, that's what I heard from someone.
    He never owned a Subway franchise. I think he was learning to manage one, but he ended up going back to school.
    I like Chang. Friendly guy.


  81. gigi-hawaii:

    and does Ashley Lelie still own a condo in Hawaii Kai?

    funny how I remember trivia...


  82. gigi-hawaii:

    so Chang has 2 kids now? wow, he keeps busy. Anyway, congrats to the Chang ohana.


  83. Stephen Tsai:

    Unkanesson:
    Graves is one of many with unique plans this summer.
    The main thins is that the players try to do something to stay active and reach Heffernan's goals this summer.


  84. warriorsun:

    interesting you should mention nebraska.
    washington travels to lincoln the week after playing hawaii in seattle.
    we will have a valid comparison between qbs. unfortunately for your argument, points win games, not passing yards.


  85. Stephen Tsai:

    Gigi:
    Lelie owns property here and there.
    That was one thing JJ told his players: When you start making money, try to buy property.


  86. Stephen Tsai:

    Interesting that you should mention Nebraska-Washington.
    There are some things I learned about that which relate to Hawaii. I won't report it on the blog, but I'll tell Al, Pride and Stretch so they can verify it.


  87. RedZone:

    I can't wait for the 2013 season. Should be one of the best ever. We will need a bunch of qbs who can get the job done.


  88. al:

    verified.


  89. Stephen Tsai:

    RedZone:
    As of this very moment, UH does not have a head coach signed for 2013.


  90. Stephen Tsai:

    We're in the tentative stages of setting up some small-group sessions with UH coaches.
    Mack gave tentative approval.
    Way it would work, if it does get off the ground, is to bring in five or six readers for a Q&A session with a coach or coordinator. The coaches can provide background on strategy and what to watch.
    Still preliminary because we need more people to sign off on this. But that' one of the near-future projects.


  91. LizKauai -iPad:

    So, having trouble finding motivation to do anything but lay around today... Must be the 5am chauffer job I had.


  92. LizKauai -iPad:

    #89. Tsigh.


  93. Stephen Tsai:

    hawaiiansun:
    I do like your observations. You're a sharp dude.


  94. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Happy Birthday Brie !!!

    ...wow, seems like just recently we were singing "Happy Birthday Sweet 16" to you. Congratulations!


  95. Stephen Tsai:

    UH was in the running for quarterback Jake Rodrigues.
    He recently committed to Oregon.
    Tough to beat Phil Knight's team.


  96. madeinhawaii:

    Hmm... but how many employees of tightly held owner run companies know how much the owner/president makes?


  97. Stephen Tsai:

    MIH:
    The owners, in essence, stopped the game because they want $1 billion more from a $9-billion pie. If they can show why they would rather shut down operations if it can't get a greater slice, they should show some need. I imagine there will be a settlement, but the big losers will be former players. They're the ones with the least leverage.
    Being an old man now, I think it would be better for the players to agree to a back-loaded contract. I'd give up money in salary in exchange for lowering the pension eligibility to three seasons (including time spent on injured reserve) and improving the post-career medical coverage. I think players will find they wished they had more benefits later.


  98. Stephen Tsai:

    There's talk, generated out of the Big Ten, about compensating players beyond the scholarship check.
    I think schools should look into long-term medical coverage for former players. As it turns out, those arthroscopic surgeries aren't lifetime solutions. I know of former players — men and women who played years ago — who are still undergoing procedures for injuries suffered a long time ago.


  99. madeinhawaii:

    Where does one draw the line between professional sports and amateur sports if the players are compensated monthly?


  100. Michigan Warrior:

    100?


  101. Stephen Tsai:

    I don't think college players should be compensated.
    Which also is why I think it's OK for Mainland players to go home for a few weeks.
    NFL players don't train with their teammates 12 months straight.


  102. kawika49:

    #101 how about the military acadamies?


  103. papajoe2:

    Happy birthday Brie!


  104. kawika49:

    They get non-com pay, uniform allowance, free medical, food, year round.


  105. Stephen Tsai:

    The academies have winter and summer breaks. I'm pretty sure they get to go home, if they wish.


  106. Stephen Tsai:

    kawika:
    Oh, compensation.
    That makes sense considering the time commitments.
    They also have to make a commitment to serve after they graduate.


  107. Michigan Warrior:

    #97... ST... I like the forward thinking of your point. After what my family went through recently, we're more inclined to set up coverage plans for our future, (and the future of our kids), and take a bigger hit now on premiums.


  108. Pauoa Boy:

    David Graves definitely looks alot stronger than when he first arrived on campus. Hope Moniz kills it this year on the field so guys like Graves can get some 4th quarter PT and showcase what the future is going to look like.


  109. Stephen Tsai:

    I like this time of year. This is when the real work happens.


  110. Michigan Warrior:

    #71... Al... I always thought there was no tuition to be paid by recruits to the service academies, since they still have the commitment of military service upon graduation.


  111. Pauoa Boy:

    So D.Rose and the Bulls lose to the sellouts Miami CHeat... and Dirk the Dork and the Mavs beat the Durantula and the Thunder, hmm... who to cheer for in the Finals? Guess I'll go with the CHeat since I like D.Wade and I can't stand Dirk the Dork!


  112. d1shima (Aria'd):

    The toll on these athletes' bodies is something that few fans will ever hear about. It's not just the injuries; all those hours in the weight room to stay or get competitive come with a "due bill"...the due date is not set but does come.


  113. kawika49:

    #106 see the following re: Caleb Campbell
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/sports/football/29lions.html


  114. gigi-hawaii:

    nah, Dirk will slay Wade. But I wish he would shave every day.


  115. A-joe:

    BTW- Before there was a Tess Witlock, before there was Trevor Ruffin, there was the original BYU killer:

    Clarence "Pop" Dickerson

    I still recall his last second heroics at the Blaisdell against the mighty Cougars. The arena went BUCKWILD!!!

    Think Pop's coaching club basketball down under.


  116. gigi-hawaii:

    not sure about extending insurance coverage for pro or student athletes beyond their playing years. sounds nice, but won't there be an outcry from other people in other professions?

    example: people who get paralyzed when they fall off their horse in a competition.

    Or, surfers who lose a limb to a shark...

    Are they covered by insurance long after their playing days are over?


  117. protector:

    Happy Birthday and Congrats to Brie!

    Greetings everyone.


  118. al:

    okay gigi...i'll bet you lunch that the heat win it all.


  119. kawika49:

    #116 There currently are rules that allow for compensation, if there is a nexus between the injury and prior occupation. Such as TBI (traumatic brain injury [concussion] etc.). These types of rules can be written into contracts.


  120. al:

    the service academy appointees get a full ride.
    my nephew was one. it is a tough "course" and only the strong survive.


  121. kawika49:

    #120 as a former GI, I'm not denegrating the academy grads; Just stating that they, as students, receive benefits not afforded those, with athletic scholarships.


  122. al:

    didn't know that. i thought all service academy students/recruits were treated equally and fairly once they got in.


  123. gigi-hawaii:

    al, you're on. I bet Dallas will win in 5.

    First 2 games, Mavs win.

    3rd game, Heat.

    4-5 games, Dallas.

    Of course, to be contrary minded, hubby predicts Heat will win in 5.

    Where you treating me to lunch?


  124. gigi-hawaii:

    Amendment: to give me chance, I believe Dallas will win in 7.

    lol.


  125. d1shima (Aria'd):

    Tough row to hoe for the BaseBows.

    Billy Hull tweets Almadova and PK out with food poisoning.


  126. Pauoa Boy:

    Hahahahaha Dirk the Dork will get eaten alive by Dwayne Wade! Wade is going to kill the Mavs and prove that their ride to the Finals was a fluke!


  127. d1shima (Aria'd):

    They got "WAC'd" by pizza furnished by he conference!


  128. kawika49:

    #121 Athletic scholars at the acadamies, do not have to meet weight and height requirements, as long as they are on the team.


  129. gigi-hawaii:

    Miami beat Dallas in 2006, right?

    2011 -- pay back time!!!


  130. madeinhawaii:

    Seems like a number of season ticket holders are being bumped from their usual seats to allow the Athletic Department to acquiesce to student demands for better seating... http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39437

    anybody here, as well?


  131. madeinhawaii:

    OOps.. I see Redzone asked the same question, earlier.. my bad.


  132. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #130,

    Every single seat better be filled or else next season they get their old seats back.


  133. madeinhawaii:

    This comment from a previous season ticket holder makes me shake my head.

    We were told we had to relocate from HH to G (!) and up as well, and there was a price increase. Also, no letter. In fact, I was told I had to agree then and there during the surprise phone call and that no letter would come. No time to even think about it, so we are no longer season ticket holders. An unexpected event and one that leaves a very bitter taste.

    Not a good way of approaching the hand the feeds you.


  134. d1shima:

    mih,

    Really unfortunate "collateral damage" in that case. If those 5 rows are in fact filled with loud and proud students then it's a plus but that's a hard one to swallow for those who liked to be front and center as the Warriors take the field.


  135. RupertDaStupert:

    When Scott Caan was cast as Danny Williams on H-50, he was muttering he didn't forsee being on long. He had other projects he wanted to take care of. Even as 1st season ended, Scott muttered he would find it difficult to keep his character from getting boring. As we saw in the season finale, his ex-wife and daughter went back to New Jersey. Maybe Danno will go back too and the end of Danno. So create a new character and lets cast Colt Brennan as Det Colt Williams? Colt loves Hawaii. We won't have to worry a muttering actor wanting to leave. Colts good looking, he's got a effervescent look, it's perfect casting!!! The NFL's loss is Hollywood's gain. Gib's a outstanding recruiter. Traps a outstanding recruiter. So is Charlie Wade. Gib could have a reboot of the fabulous five next season. All great one on one players but playing within team concept. That's what made the fab five great. Team players, no prima donna's. That should fill the Stanley and bring great excitement. We are in the golden age of UH sports. Things are looking up. Book em Colt!!!!


  136. d1shima:

    :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

    :-( :-(

    mid 2


  137. Hawaiianbod:

    ~congrads, good luck and Happy Birthday Brie!~


  138. d1shima:

    No tomorrow (or even later today).

    Bulldogs biting back...Randy Yard warming up already.


  139. d1shima:

    :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

    :-( :-( :-( :-(


  140. Hawaiianbod:

    LET'S GO BOWS!!!


  141. Hawaiianbod:

    David Graves - have a great off-season.

    WARRIOR PRIDE


  142. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Anyone who's seen The Beast's list of recent surgeries can attest: college football takes a toll on an ahtlete's body. Prayers for Ryan (Weber St.) and all others on UH's team who are nursing injuries or recovering from surgery. Agree that long term care and compensation would be a good thing.


  143. kalani:

    #65
    Agree with your comments about Warrior Bowl..Graves was also holding the ball too long and took too many sacks. Thumbs up for Moniz (except for pick) and Shutter performances.


  144. Slugger:

    Let's GO BOWS!!!


  145. d1shima (Aria'd):

    Big play at the plate just now... by Trap.


  146. Grants Pass Realtors:

    You must participate in a contest for the most effective blogs on the web. http://www.kendonleet.com I'll recommend this website!


  147. kawika49:

    One would think, that with all of the various visitor industry dependent companies, that we have; that we could put a bonus package for the bowl participants.


  148. warriorsun:

    Moniz needs to demonstrate more football IQ this season. He has responsibly developed his physical assests, trained hard and matured into a respectable field leader. solid!
    But, his interception over the middle in the spring game was a quick reminder of his performance against tulsa in the hawaii bowl when he repeatedly forced throws into coverage resulting in crucial game-outcome turnovers....ive said this many times, rolo needs to install a perimeter running game like oregon and troy, utilizing slots and wrs on reverses, to keep the D honest and prevent the same from loading up the middle. our rns needs to be modified to meet D adjustments and become less predictable.


  149. Pauoa Boy:

    aunty gigi,

    no worries I just making trouble...but although I hate Lebron, I love D.Wade and would like to see him and Udonis Haslem win another ring. Dallas is okay cause I like Jason Kidd and think he's one of the best point guards but Dirk is just one of them dudes I can't stand. We'll see what happens but I like Miami better...


  150. Pauoa Boy:

    Our offense can kill and score quickly but at times it becomes too predictable and also gets exposed. I mean we go undefeated only to have Georgia rip us apart... then we win a co-WAC Championship only to have Tulsa whoop our arse! Every year our offense should be evolving into more innovative and creative ways to score and get points. Case in point is why I give props to Coach Petersen and Boise State. Always on your toes when playing these guys cause you don't know what kind of play they'll pull next. It's what keeps them at the top of their game. I mean seriously, they don't have the 4 or 5 star athletes wanting to play in Bronco Blue, but they do so well with the players they have that you always have to bring your best playing these guys. I know Coach Rolo was in his first full year as offensive coordinator and has a plethora of plays to implement in the playbook, but with Moniz in his final year, it's time to let him make it rain and light up the scoreboards! Funny though how we were killers in offense last year... a 5,000+yds. passer, a 1,000+yds. rusher, two 1,000+yds. receivers, and too many TD's to count, but we still want more...


  151. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #150,

    I don't want more yards, more TD, more receptions etc...I want us to win our bowl game.

    Wait, let me rephrase...I could give a flying *bleep* about yards, TD, numbers on the ground etc....what I want is to start strong and finisher stronger (read: win bowl games).

    I'm pretty sure most fans feel the same way.


  152. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    I am pretty confident that Rolovich will create his own type of RnS where the run game and variety of plays will be incorporated.

    When that happens is another question.

    I was happy to see us utilize the pistol formation. Giving our running backs a couple extra yards to "get into gear" is something that Jackson could have possibly used while he was here.

    I don't know how/if we could utilize various formations like Urban Meyer or Peterson employs with our RnS....I want to say its probably not as easy to do?

    Finally, I have always liked Mike Leach's "Air Raid" offense at TTech...RnS at its core but he utilized different formations at times too.


  153. kawika49:

    All things being equal, I think next year will depend on our defense being able to hold.


  154. Brie:

    Hi Gigi:

    Duncan still coaches at Punahou.


  155. JaM:

    Oops...previous was not Brie...


  156. Hawaiianbod:

    finish strong!


  157. gigi-hawaii:

    Thanks, JaM!


  158. Hawaiianbod:

    2 more outs


  159. gigi-hawaii:

    In the Hawaii bowl game last year, the newspapers mentioned that our offense's predictability led to our loss.

    But because of school work, there was so little time to prepare new schemes. What can be done about that?


  160. gigi-hawaii:

    mmmm. Fudge Brownies now out of the oven and cooling. Want some? lol.


  161. Hawaiianbod:

    1 down, 1 more to go....today.


  162. d1shima:

    WooHoo!


  163. Slugger:

    Whew! What a looong game. FB friends: I posted some pics of Hohokam Stadium if you want to see where the BaseBows are playing.

    Is ESPN 1420 broadcasting the next game?


  164. Hawaiianbod:

    LETS GO BOWS!

    .....beat fresneck!


  165. d1shima:

    GO BASEBOWS!

    Beat the Bulldogs!

    ...the other ones!

    ...twice!


  166. Hawaiianbod:

    next game app 4:30 p.m. HST


  167. Slugger:

    Yay, Bows!

    Let's GO BOWS!!!


  168. madeinhawaii:

    When Pilares went down, the predictability doubled.


  169. d1shima:

    Billy Hull tweets:

    Jesse Moore will start Game 2 for UH; Pi'ikea Kitamura is in the lineup playing at short #uhbsb


  170. al:

    hawaii bowl...28 first downs, 550 yards, and 35 pts are usually enough offense to win.

    it was the turnovers that killed us.


  171. d1shima:

    I hope wacky.tv picks up Don Robbs' call for the game; those Fresneck guys get irritating

    "Gotta POUND this, gotta POUND that" :roll:


  172. kalani:

    #159 In our offense, our receivers and QB read and react to what the defense is doing, so it shouldn't be predictable. But if they don't execute, it results in picks, sacks and incompletions. As you mentioned, there was a lack of practice, which led to poor execution, picks, sacks and incompletions and a blow out.


  173. d1shima:

    ...and too much speed on the other sideline.


  174. d1shima:

    Oh well.


  175. d1shima:

    I thought Hawaii had chance when that Johnson kid started tossing cookies on the sideline but he "gutted" it out.


  176. gigi-hawaii:

    yeah, gotta admit when we lost the bowl game, I felt so deflated and depressed. what a terrible way to end the season. really reminded me of the sugar bowl -- the feelings, I mean.


  177. gigi-hawaii:

    I don't usually watch baseball, but sounds like you guys had a good time.


  178. al:

    4:45 is the start time.


  179. d1shima:

    The Former Coach changes a fourth of his offense every year but remains true to R&S principles.

    The challenge for DC Aranda is anticipating what will be new for his charges.

    How many of the upcoming opponents will adopt the Ducks' 20-second tempo, I wonder?


  180. d1shima:

    I don't think that 1st base ump gets too many arguments on his calls!


  181. d1shima:

    National Anthem....ceremonial 1st pitch....

    Come on 'Bows...fuel for the fire!


  182. al:

    early start...


  183. d1shima:

    Moore looks sharp! Good start...


  184. d1shima:

    Wac'd by the WAC POY.


  185. Derek:

    By the time Scott Harding enrolls into UH he'll be close 26 years old. If anything, he'll be mature. If hasn't played American football so I figure he wil redshirt the first year and learn some more as a reshirt freshman. By a third year sophomore he might get better. Heck, by the time he's a senior he'll be close to 30 or 31. And I thought the Mormons who played college football were old!!!! Is Harding a Mormon? Just asking. But, he looks like he has a good body and he's got some speed. Athletic ability and football instincts? We'll have to wait and see.


  186. d1shima:

    :-( :-(

    Gotta hit...


  187. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #159

    re: What can be done about the school work and game prep.

    1) Move the bowl game back.
    2) Start the season earlier.
    3) Figure out an internal schedule that would allow UH students to get their work done on time.

    ESPN, NCAA, UH has to be convinced to change...with ESPN being the main entity you need to convince...All others follow the high lord ESPN


  188. kawika49:

    Anyone ready to hit without pads and with speed, is good enuf for me.


  189. d1shima:

    Ask Tulsa.

    They seemed to nail it down pretty good.


  190. kawika49:

    Go Harding.


  191. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    I wonder if Rolovich would ever try out a "pro-set" type of formation like the Air Raid has utilized.

    WR...X X X X X...SB....WR

    .......HB.QB.FB.....


  192. kawika49:

    How about a slot that willing to hit?


  193. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #179,

    The Duck's tempo thing would be a challenge for our Defense. I too am interested to see how many schools employ it.


  194. kawika49:

    What a sweep that would be.


  195. d1shima:

    Dang, these 'Dogs hit as good as their NC team


  196. d1shima:

    Does Mouse come back from Lake Oswego (and leave the wifey behind...again) to teach an Aussie how to block a DE/LB for a sweep?

    Or does he come back to create another Bess/Salas/Pilares?


  197. d1shima:

    see post #89


  198. d1shima:

    Come on PK!


  199. Stephen Tsai:

    I think I need to see the UH baseball game on TV.
    I'm sorry, but this isn't the 1950s, and I have ADD, so I can't just sit and listen to the radio.


  200. d1shima:

    Uhhh...you may not wanna watch right now.


  201. gigi-hawaii:

    you guys must all have your laptop on your laps while watching the game, eh?

    I can't see myself going from the TV room to the desk top room to type a comment. lol.


  202. d1shima:

    I mean PK did come thru but then ran into the CSUF dugout because he's still battling food poisoning. Eeuuuuwww....


  203. d1shima:

    Some computers nowadays can actually run multiple windows simultaneously.


  204. Stephen Tsai:

    d1:
    I guess not. I just woke up.
    I'm reading UH's tweets.
    And d1's comments.


  205. d1shima:

    Try follow billyhull, too


  206. gigi-hawaii:

    thanks for your responses to my comment #159, guys.

    I agree that the Bowl should be moved back -- maybe even to January -- to give time to practice new schemes.


  207. d1shima:

    ...he's not Brand X anymore


  208. d1shima:

    ?

    And move Christmas back, too?


  209. d1shima:

    :-) :-)

    :-( :-( :-(

    Gotta keep hitting!


  210. gigi-hawaii:

    eh, maybe not move to January. Wasn't the Sugar Bowl on Jan 1? Lost anyhow.


  211. d1shima:

    speaking of Brand X

    Remind me to tell you about the scoldings I got :-P


  212. gigi-hawaii:

    some of you mentioned that our offense reacts to the defense so is not predictable.

    well, how do you explain the picks and sacks, then?


  213. d1shima:

    We giving 'em chance!


  214. gigi-hawaii:

    haha! d1, you make me laugh. what a wiseacre!


  215. Hawaiianbod:

    condolences to Shawn Ching and his family for the passing of his father.


  216. d1shima:

    gigi,

    Watch this and then understand that in UW's offense the receiver routes are determined in the huddle.
    In Hawaii's offense, the routes are adjusted based on what happens at the line of scrimmage and then often changed again after the snap.

    This is what the QB sees and how much time everyone has to make it all fit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr6oEvOY1Mk


  217. d1shima:

    Fighting back.

    New game!

    :-) :-) :-)

    :-( :-( :-(


  218. gigi-hawaii:

    d1,

    great vid! shot from the QB's helmet, I guess.


  219. d1shima:

    :evil:


  220. gigi-hawaii:

    What struck me about that video is being on ground level -- something you can't see while being a spectator in the stands or in front of the TV.

    I came away believing that the QB has got to be tall -- like 6'5" tall -- just so he can see the action better.


  221. RedZone:

    Tulsa had a really good defensive minded coach. The kind that can get the most out of his players. After watching their game with Notre Dame I knew they would be trouble. Before the bowl game I remember telling one of their fans that if they won the game they would lose their coach. He is now the coach at Pittsburgh.


  222. wafan:

    Go BaseBows!


  223. d1shima:

    Bases Juiced....

    you know who at bat!


  224. Hawaiianbod:

    c'mon BOWS!


  225. gigi-hawaii:

    RedZone, at first I thought you meant the Steelers.


  226. d1shima:

    Grrr...

    at least I figured out how to do this.

    Silenced the Fresneck yakkers and listen to Don Robbs who is two pitches ahead. Now I know when to watch! :lol:

    GO BASEBOWS!

    p.s.- comes in handy for shishi breaks


  227. d1shima:

    gigi,

    That's the point that a lot of fans miss; from the stands a lot can seem really obvious but doing it at field level with 6'4" guys trying to get to you and 6'6" guys trying to get in their way makes it all pretty difficult.

    I recall pride. making that point several times during the past season and it's well taken.


  228. gigi-hawaii:

    d1, Moniz is 5'11" -- geez!


  229. gigi-hawaii:

    yet, isnt Shane Austin much taller than Moniz, yet he is backup QB?

    Coach must have some reason for preferring Moniz.


  230. gigi-hawaii:

    Drank a Corona, ate 3 brownies -- yes, that's dinner.


  231. RedZone:

    Colt said that the R&S is a difficult passing offense for a qb. You need to get the ball to receivers who maybe running from 15 to 17 diiferent routes on one play.

    I also think that you need to have receivers who will be in the right spot on any given play otherwise bad things will happen.


  232. d1shima:

    Speaking of which, I was wondering at some point after the new field went in if it mattered to any QB's that there was no "crown" anymore. Of course, now that so many years have passed there are no more players who would be able to draw a comparison.


  233. hubby:

    Yahoo, i'm getting busy tonight!


  234. d1shima:

    The Fat Lady may be near... :-(


  235. gigi-hawaii:

    RedZone, haha! I still remember Timmy Chang throwing the ball to the left while two receivers turned to the right.

    After that play, JJ looked irritated and I heard him (on TV) say to the receivers who approached him, "Hey! What were you doing? What were you doing?"

    I guess they didn't know what they were doing.


  236. gigi-hawaii:

    is it safe to turn off the a/c now?


  237. kawika49:

    Rhythm and the fog of action predict your movements. Although Moniz may not be able to see where his receivers are; their (his players) movements will influence his decision.


  238. d1shima:

    Turning to misery...


  239. d1shima:

    ...at 3-15, Don Robbs declares it's starting to look like a rout. That's optimism!


  240. gigi-hawaii:

    sounds like UH is simply exhausted.

    too much to handle, eh?


  241. Garret:

    Happy Birthday Brie!

    I'm sorry I didn't say that earlier, but I was saving that for after I finished my long posts...but my family woke up so I got off the blog.


  242. Garret:

    I still remember bowling with Brie at gigi's home...can't believe she is going to go to college soon.


  243. d1shima:

    Probably so but I hope Fresno gets all the pizza they deserve after this is over! :twisted:


  244. Garret:

    Article about how it is a "done deal" that the MWC will get AQ status in 2012...UH would benefit from this even without contributing to the earning of it. Thank you to TCU for leaving their BCS points behind in this BCS cycle and for BSU for earning so many points too.

    The article does mention what I've been saying--it will be hard to hold on to AQ status after TCU leaves.

    http://www.lvrj.com/sports/mountain-west-gaining-ground-for-bcs-waiver-122766663.html


  245. gigi-hawaii:

    Garret, sorry but Brie wasn't at my home back then.

    It was Joje, jojo's 10 yr old daughter, who won the grand championship and $30.


  246. gigi-hawaii:

    To see a picture of BRIE taken in 2007, click on this link:

    http://gigihawaii.wordpress.com/2007/04/28/ohana-football-festival/


  247. gigi-hawaii:

    To see a picture of JOJE taken at my wii bowling party in 2008, click on this link:

    http://gigihawaii.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/wii-bowling-party/


  248. Garret:

    A-Joe,

    I understand the desire for having all conferences getting an auto-bid. But football is very different than basketball since you can only get 1 game per week instead of 2. A 16-team football playoff would already take 1 more week than a 64-team basketball tournament. In a perfect world, we'd have a 32-team football playoff, but that simply wouldn't be feasible given the number of weeks that would take, the travel during the Holidays (it is a lot easier to fly in March/April than it is in December during the Holidays with the bad weather in much of the country).

    If you have 100 teams fighting for playoff spots or if you have 140 teams, you make the same amount of money (when you consider how little those teams draw in terms of fan interest). That means that each of those 100 teams have to voluntarily give up money to subsidize the 40 teams that cannot. That is a hard argument to make to the big schools that are bringing in almost all of the money. It is also a hard argument to UH to tell it to give up money so that Sun Belt and MAC schools can have it instead.

    I'm looking at things solely in terms of what benefits UH, I don't care about those other schools. I'm also looking for what can realistically be done given the 1 game per week and holiday/travel limitations for a playoff system, plus it has to be something that makes sense for the other schools also. If we hold out for an ideal playoff system, we'll never get anything. If a playoff system starts that makes sense for everyone, it should be able to be extended later just like the NCAA tournament (which is why I mentioned 20 teams in an expansion, which would give autobids for Sun Belt/MAC/WAC).

    Again, when I judge everything my ultimate deciding factor is simple: what is best for UH.


  249. Garret:

    gigi,

    My mistake. I don't know how I mixed that up because I feel like I've been following news about JaM and Brie for years!


  250. gigi-hawaii:

    Fun times, huh?

    I just love the power of the Internet and the pics we have at our fingertips!


  251. Garret:

    One thing that should be noted is that to qualify for D-IA, an athletic department has to meet certain rules--number of scholarships, etc. One of those rules is to have a certain minimum attendance. Schools that aren't meeting that rule are violating the requirements of being in D-IA. Enforcing that rule has been threatened for a long, long time...and those schools do not care or do not have the ability to get people to care enough to attend the games even if they give the tickets away for free.

    So, teams that do not qualify for D-IA are currently getting the same share of BCS money as UH is. That means it costs UH money for those schools to be allowed to slide on the rules.


  252. d1shima:

    D3 has a 32-team tournament that concludes with the Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl on the Saturday before Christmas.

    Most D3 teams play 9 regular season games.

    As Garret mentioned travel during that time of year (the second round is during Thanksgiving week) is interesting, to say the least. Not knowing where you need to go until 5 days beforehand (assuming you want to get to the game city ahead of time) is a real challenge without even considering the weather.

    And that's all for, at most, a few hundred fans following the teams.


  253. Garret:

    Nobody cared about the short time between finals and the Hawaii Bowl when UH faced a Pac-10 team in 2006.

    Moving the bowl back isn't feasible because the sponsors and ESPN don't care! If they cared, the Hawaii Bowl would pay more than the minimum! If they cared, the Pac-12 would still be involved with the Hawaii Bowl. If they cared, C-USA wouldn't have to *lose* money to send a team to the Hawaii Bowl--between the minimum payout, high travel cost, and 10,000 tickets to the game, C-USA loses money every year on the Hawaii Bowl.

    The whole reason ESPN wants the Hawaii Bowl is to have a game on a night when there are no other games. ESPN has no interest in moving the game back to nights when higher-paying bowls (with teams that will get higher TV ratings) are already scheduled.


  254. Garret:

    d1shima,

    D3 schools only need to travel a small amount of fans, and that fan travel isn't needed for the games to make it financially.

    D-IA playoffs would need fans to fly across the country every week and pack every stadium on short notice. Throughout the Christmas travel season.


  255. Garret:

    One other side effect of the playoff system would be for the lower-paying bowls to eventually be eliminated. ESPN keeps the Hawaii Bowl going because they need TV inventory...the playoff games would be more inventory than they could ever want.

    If a playoff game is on against the Hawaii Bowl or the other low-profile bowls, the ratings for the low profile bowls would be hit hard. That would make the bowl game not as worthwhile for ESPN.

    Remember, ESPN and UH have consistently said that the Hawaii Bowl is successful because it is the only game on TV that day. That may not be the case in a playoff system.


  256. Garret:

    Our houseguests left so I had some blog time...but time for Lori time.


  257. hubby:

    I'm getting busy, too. :shock:


  258. gigi-hawaii:

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    I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said.
    Additionally, and someone like PowderPuff, would know better but I can't imagine hotels blocking enough rooms for the possibility of thousands of fans who may, or may not be coming to town.


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    So, Garret please clarify what is Lori time?


  263. al:

    hats off to fresno state's baseball team.
    loads of talent and they brought it to the tournament.

    never saw a college team with a 6'7" leftfielder who runs like he does. he ran down a liner to the gap and he stole a base. no wonder he is the freshman of the year.

    the fresno/san joaquin valley is known for producing baseball talent.


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    I like what Trap has done in the past coupla years recruiting-wise. Certainly it's helped re-kindle the local fanbase but watching the size of that Judge kid....


  265. gigi-hawaii:

    too bad he's not a QB for UH...


  266. d1shima:

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    ...further, I wouldn't want to be the one who tells half of the Autzen faithful that they aren't getting tickets for next Saturday's play-off game and "oh, by the way, where's a good place to stay in Eugene?"


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    he's a baseball player with mlb potential.


  269. al:

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  270. gigi-hawaii:

    he could be a QB with NFL potential.


  271. gigi-hawaii:

    well, what do you expect from a school that won 5 WAC tournaments?


  272. al:

    yah today's game was critical for us. win today and we probably get in the dance regardless of sunday.

    however, without the opportunity available to us with this loss we may seen the end of this season.


  273. gigi-hawaii:

    sometimes I wonder what makes a kid choose a particular sport. Is it the father pushing him in that direction, or the availability of the sport to youngsters, or opportunities...


  274. al:

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    the biggest thing was getting kolten wong to stay home.
    and then, getting almadova and kitamura and now arakawa to play for the home team along with some solid mainland talent has packed the les.


  275. gigi-hawaii:

    g'nite, all.


  276. al:

    gigi...if i am not mistaken we have won 7 wac tournaments.


  277. d1shima:

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    not demeaning Trap in any way but recent stories seem to indicate that getting Wong to play at home was all but a slam dunk once the math exercise was done on the initial offer from MLB.


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