UH passes on Tate
By Stephen Tsai
The Warriors have abandoned efforts to recruit Tate Forcier, apparently because the former Michigan quarterback does not project to meet the requirement to enroll at UH this fall, according to people familiar with the situation. UH's fall semester begins Aug. 22.
Forcier had told ESPN and the WB that he would be visiting UH this weekend. He even sent UH his transcripts, the Warriors' requirement for an official recruiting trip.
The Warriors, who were extremely interested in bringing in Forcier for a get-to-know-you meeting, apparently withdrew from the running because it could not be determined when Forcier would be able to join the team. Because Forcier must sit out a season as a condition of transferring, if he had chosen UH, it was hoped he could learn the system this fall and compete for a starting job in the spring.
The Warriors are recruiting two other quarterbacks. If they choose UH, they would be eligible to join the Warriors in January.
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The Warrior Beat
July 20th, 2011 at 12:09 am
I thought he was all set to visit this week. What a turn of events!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:09 am
What.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Oh! By the way, #1 and 2.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Make that #1 and 3.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Just as well I suppose.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:14 am
right on
July 20th, 2011 at 12:15 am
So does this mean we could be entertaining some jc qb's
July 20th, 2011 at 12:17 am
JC recruits ?
" The Warriors are recruiting two other quarterbacks. If they choose UH, they would be eligible to join the Warriors in January. "
July 20th, 2011 at 12:26 am
As I understand it, one is a high school guy who just qualified.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Kinda glad this was cleared up before Fall camp. I also believe the decision is somewhat of a relief and will give peace of mind to a couple of the QBs on the team who have been here for awhile. Go Warriors!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:38 am
aiya. academics!!! no school, no ball. sorry!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:40 am
Hmmm...both bad news and good news.
(Football) life and the Warrior Beat goes on...
July 20th, 2011 at 12:44 am
UH wanted him. It would have waited except there are two prospects it didn't want to lose.
Forcier would have had two seasons to play; others have more.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:47 am
i wonder if that was the reason for miami saying no too.
maybe san jose will take him.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Re: Miami.
Supposedly they reneged on certain promises.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 am
thanks!
nite!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Ok. Now we can move on.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:47 am
I just know there will be some that will weasel blame to Coach Mack and Co or even UH admissions for this.
Facts have no place in arguements when short-sighted sports fans are irate.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 am
das ok. We go into battle with gunz we get!
GOING!!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:15 am
Personally I am glad UH compliance and admissions did their due dilligence and the correct decision was made. This is still COLLEGE athletics and student-athletes are students first.
As fans and supporters let's continue to backup the 400+ student-athletes we have and all those coming in that did what they needed to do in the classroom to represent the GREEN and WHITE.
A lot of parents of future Warriors and Rainbow Wahine from here in Hawaii and across the country and even internationally take the time and steps needed to send their children to a division 1 athletic program and the sacrifices they make, as well as their children, are tremendous. For this, we must remain appreciative and welcoming for them.
No time to "mourn" or even to try to find blame, UH can be a second chance for those needing it, but it goes BOTH ways.
Pau.
Going to bed!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:56 am
link to ST's article in sports section.
" Warriors end courtship of Tate Forcier "
http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/20110720_warriors_end_courtship_of_tate_forcier.html
July 20th, 2011 at 3:47 am
UH will be just fine with regards their qb's for this year; as for 2012, I'm sure they will continue to reload and be ready for the MWC.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:48 am
can't wait to see who the other two(2) qb's are??
July 20th, 2011 at 4:13 am
Academics still comes before athletics, not only in the dictionary but also in a student-athlete's life, but that's why they are called student-athletes......good luck to all, and GO WARRIORS
July 20th, 2011 at 4:35 am
If the Academics weren't there, UH had no use for Forcier. UH didn't end their recruitment of Forcier...he just didn't take care of business in the classroom.
I support UH's decision 100% in this. Maybe this is the reason that Forcier took his time sending the transcripts to UH...
July 20th, 2011 at 4:48 am
Re-stating things:
UH didn't end their recruitment of Forcier...he ended it by not taking care of business in the classroom.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:50 am
Garret,
i agree, it's just like business, letter of intent and followed by conditions of agreement with a clause for lack of performance....it's business baby, but we just call it college athletics, haha
July 20th, 2011 at 5:25 am
Howzit, brothers: Garret and Bulla; yeah you guys hit the nail on da-head.
good morning to all u Tsaiko's tand have a great day.....out4eats.
July 20th, 2011 at 5:29 am
tand???=don't know where dat came from??
July 20th, 2011 at 5:31 am
mc,
knowing first-hand about the NCAA compliance challenges, i am glad that UH's Compliance Dept. has stepped up, in the long run, it is better for UH to toe the line instead of hearing 'i toe you so' from NCAA, (No Clue At All)....
be blessed not stressed my brother, and keep smiling
July 20th, 2011 at 5:38 am
BYU has figured out how to make money from having sports on BYUtv. This furthers their financial incentive to remain indy...and insures that their non-football teams won't be going back to the MWC or joining any conference that doesn't give their schools the right to broadcast games not on national TV.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/52211444-77/byutv-byu-games-espn.html.csp
July 20th, 2011 at 5:39 am
Stephen: I'm assuming the 2 QBs we are recruiting does not include Justin Alo since you mention one just qualified and Alo has not yet. Does this mean that if Alo qualifies we are looking at 3 new potential QBs for the spring? Or are we assuming Alo might not qualify?
July 20th, 2011 at 5:42 am
150 pound ulua got away
line snapped
what can you do about it
nothing ventured nothing gain
go back to the shallow water
hope the small papios grown up to be huge one day
July 20th, 2011 at 5:49 am
It is what it is. Good luck to all and GonWarriors!
July 20th, 2011 at 5:50 am
Go. (space) Warriors!
Have a great day, everyone!
July 20th, 2011 at 5:51 am
Does UH really have a Compliance Department or even a Compliance Office? I thought it was just one person and a helper or assistant.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:09 am
rage,
from our experience a year ago, one person and one assistant due to cutbacks. IMHO, they are way understaffed for what they are responsible for....
July 20th, 2011 at 6:10 am
しかたがない. Move on to the next QB candidates.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:16 am
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Po ho dis guy!
BIK
July 20th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Jim Leahey doing volleyball next season. Which one? Men or women or both. Although I love Mr. Leahey's colorful descriptions, I think volleyball may have gotten just a little too fast for him, especially the men's game. Now baseball.........I'd be disappointed if he doesn't do that. He and Pal talks stories between pitches and trips to the mound by coaches. I love that as it takes away the slow pace of the game.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Its almost time for football and this Forcier thing kept us blogger buzzing. I always trusted the coaches decisions and if he didn't qualify so be it. Better than trying to get him in, then a school that also tried may blow the whistle on UH. Like the WB people always say, "If can, can. No can, no can."
July 20th, 2011 at 6:33 am
two weeks of courtship
two weeks of waiting
mix them together
Pop! goes the weasel.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Morning folks!
Well, Warriors already have a nice stable of QBs. Maybe Forcier can get into a solid JC somewheres.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Bulla,
I understand, I was just wondering if you can call it a department or an office if it's just one person and an assistant. Wouldn't that be called a Compliance person. I do agree that they are way understaffed, but you can say that about a lot of positions. What about the video editing people?
July 20th, 2011 at 6:41 am
He probably qualified out of HS, but too many WD's and INC since HS and the always suspect ONLINE classes
July 20th, 2011 at 6:47 am
papajoe:
They haven't announced the full list of announcers.
But word is Jim Leahey would be doing women's volleyball, not men's volleyball.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Garret:
There is an existing BYU channel (one shown in Hawaii).
Is that the same one BYU will use for sports?
If so, it already has the built-in infrastructure.
If the sports channel is a start-up, then that initial sales are very impressive.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:56 am
southbay:
There is the assumption that there will be two new QBs for the 2012 class, with both joining in January and not the summer.
Graves is considered the leading candidate for 2012. Even if Forcier had come to UH, it does not mean he would have beaten out Graves.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:56 am
ST,
The BYU channel that is already distributed across the country will be the one that will show BYU sporting events. That is a nice boost for their exposure and recruiting...and they have figured out a way to make money from it also.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:58 am
Too bad about Tate- Has the ability to up the level of intensity for the QB competition.
Will keep tabs on where he lands, very interested in seeing him play where he can stay grounded.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Could UH offer an "educational" channel like BYU does? That channel could show UH lectures, Hawaii cultural events, and so on and provide worldwide exposure for UH Academics and Athletics. Every TV provider carries Educational channels and those channels cannot accept advertising...but sponsorships (wink, wink) are okay for educational channels.
The HTA would be an obvious sponsor for the channel since it would basically be a 24-hour advertisement for Hawaii.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Olelo shows UH lectures on channel 55 digital.
Pret-ty dry.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Good morning gang! Enjoy the beautiful day! bbl
July 20th, 2011 at 7:38 am
If Tate had made it here...great. He didn't make it...that's OK too. I have great faith in the coaches choosing the best path for Warrior football. Best wishes for Tate in taking the steps to making a second chance come true and taking full advantage of it.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Good morning DPK,
I got ur aloja message from yesterday.. All is well withe the ballpicker.
Almost time for some FOOTBALL!
July 20th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Good Morning Tsai-kos!
July 20th, 2011 at 7:44 am
the tate forcier lap dance only illustrates the depth of need for a quality warrior QB in 2012.
mac showed this angst in joining a nationwide possee of football coaches in hot pursuit of forcier, a franchise talent with as many groans as wows.... and, the red flag that popped-up for most observers is when usc said "no thanks, we are stocked", but invited a migrant cornhusker QB, cody greene, to visit their trojan campus. usc held no reserve in pursuing the embattled mitch mustain from arkansas three years ago.
now, rolo has been a busy little chimpmunk in stashing away QBs in his lower manoa tree. he has graves, shutter, spain, higgins, nielson and alo coming in this spring. SIX! now, according to mac, two more on the way. eight! yikes!
dont get me wrong, give credit to mac and rolo for their perseverance.
still, it does leave one to wonder how many scholies does it take and how many will remain for other areas in need?
better yet, why is our learning curve so costly?
AND as we learned from the JJ era of stocking QBs en masse, the scholie-trickle-down effect does impact other units on the hawaii team. during JJ's tenure it meant our DB unit took a hit.
deja vu?
July 20th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Ok, Where is the Buffalo pic djour ?
The official countdown did begin with the Ralphie pic, yes?
Also, would the rock group, Buffalo Springfield. qualify? Ahh, that was weak. sorry.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:48 am
CoolEthan:
That's good. I'll hunt down a pic. Thanks.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:06 am
The only incentive a company would have to "donate" money to BYU would be the potential of a tax right off.
BYU Athletics has figured out a loophole to fall under a 501c3 umbrella.
Private religious academic institutions will take note and follow suit.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:08 am
I imagine the BYU channel will have a lot of BYU fans and Mormons, but I wonder what the subscription percentage will be for non-LDS members.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:19 am
idk but i'll take the liberty of asking
there are criterias for entrance and admission to school
and there are also Coach Mack's criterias in players being part of the team in the fall
mack has stated emphatically that players adhere to his rules
irregardless of being NCAA elgible for season, or being in good standing with school
mack has his own perameters. mack is very strict. mack has his own guidelines.
we'll probably never know in this case
but if forceir pops up at another D-1 school and is granted admission
then it would seem that macks criterias for admission supercedes the schools admission
mack's standards are written in stone--no grades, no suit up in the fall: have grades be on pace to graduate suit up in the fall.
what value would forceir had been to the team even if he was accepted but didnt pass macks inspection and guidelines to practice in the fall
July 20th, 2011 at 8:20 am
"Rock n Roll Women"- 1967
We need 'em
We love 'em
Can't do without 'em
thx ST. :>
July 20th, 2011 at 8:23 am
#57. et seq.
rolo and mac will need to make a QB scholie re-evaluation following spring 2012 to trim its tree. a routine pruning process coaches exercise to sustain the maintenance for a healthy growing football program.
when it comes to hawaii and it's QBs, latent-talent is like bad-knees.
within two years, cream should rise to the top. otherwise we may become known as back-up-QB-U.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:37 am
huh? #62, re criterias (ur grammer)
criteria (p)
criterion (s).
July 20th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Tate forcier must be an idiot to not qualify and UH is dumb for ending the courtship. Look at ohio state they don't care if there players are ineligible, they still play them!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:40 am
BTW our QB situation better improve fast bc we got some real plugs in the waiting.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:48 am
lets look at ohio state,
their national championship head coach resigned and their heisman QB vacated before his senior year....that's the price you pay for not caring.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Good morning Tsaikos!!
Forcier - whateva. Move on. If no can make da grade, we no like.
ST - BYUtv is standard on some DishNetwork packages (like the one I have). Watched the UH-BYU men's vb games last season. Screecher and I were yelling at the tv.... Stupid gym is a glorified HS gym. Not enough room to serve, too many fans in the way.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Re: UH using an ineligible player - do I need to bring up men's vb NC? NoClueAtAll punishes the havenots much more severely than the haves.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Good Morning Gangeez!
Yeppppp. It is wut it is.
Is there a chance TF could bolster his academics elsewhere and try again here. Not sure how that works, so I'm just askin'.
Meanwhile...
GO WARRIORS!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Good morning, gang!
I believe in the QBs we have on board and that the coaches will bring in the best for the future. GO WARRIORS!!!
Happy birthday, Hi'ilani Beaudet!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:54 am
ncaamisfractions? haves and havesnots? whateva. move on.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:00 am
no can wait for tate to improve his report card. maybe if he had more than two years to play. therefore, next.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Recruiting involves 2 Parties...If one side doesn't hold up their end of the bargain theres not much the other side can do...Best of Luck to Mr.Forcier where ever he may land...
July 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The only way to get the looks is to hit the books!
The only one's that count are the one's you can count on!
Remember..."there are 380,000 student-athletes and just about every one of them will go pro in something other than sports."
Go Warriors!
Go Wahine!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The UFL commissioner tried to put the best spin on his league's future as possible, but it sounds like Colt, RGM, Patek and the rest of the UFL players need to find somewhere else to play.
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/07/20/qampa-commissioner-michael-huyghue-faces-reality-of-ufls-future/
July 20th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I was never confident that Forcier would show up and join the program. Coach Mack and Co. made the right decision. We want good football players, but school is just as important and I'm sure Mack's goal is that every UH football player get their degree. Simple as that.
Plus, UH is the most difficult school to get into in the WAC and the second most in the MWC, aside from Air Force. Thus, the search for the "Holy Grail" continues. We have to have a good QB in 2012. The first game that year is @ USC. The second game that year is @ BYU. Can you say, "Holy Big Time!" Can you remember when was the last time a UH football team beat a BCS conference team "ON THE ROAD." Was it the Holiday Bowl against Illinois in 1992 or do we call it a game on a neutral field? Or was it at Oregon when Darrack Branch scored the winning touchdown? That that back, it wasn't that long ago. I was at the game in 2009 when UH beat Wash St. in Seattle, but is that also on a neutral field? To go into someone's backyard and win is very, very difficult. This is why the game on Sept. 10 against the Huskies in Seattle is so tough. Sarkisian has the Huskies improving with every year. And he has even gotten some Hawaii players. I feel we will be 2 touchdowns underdogs for that game. It is imperative that we beat the Colorado Tatonkas on Sept. 3 otherwise we will be looking at potentially an 0-2 start with @ UNLV the following week on Sept. 17. Ideally, we want to be 2-1 after 3 games and that would would be a good start.
Going 3-0 would be unbelievable, but I would like that right now. So, for me, the most important game is Colorado as far as setting up the season to be a successful one.
My vote for men's volleyball play by play on OC16 is Scott Robbs. "Crush the coconut"!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Good morning everyone!
Happy Birthday to (Pink-sider) Mama Mia!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Mama Mia, as we all know, is quite a singer.
And an MMA fan.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:28 am
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July 20th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Forcier WHO??...
Nothing to look at here...can we move on please?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:44 am
the tate forcier pursuit raises more questions than it answers on the second-floor.
OK, his uh admission is nixed and recruitment thereby rendered moot. agreed.
but as i laid out in #57, et seq, recruiting QBs en masse is hardly irrelevant.
somewhere along the line, it will create sholie shortages on other units.
i cant say if rolo is blind, shot-gunning or needs a mob to keep him company at practice.
perhaps. all three. this we know, we are soon-to-be-looking at 8-QBs on the roster....and, not one stands out for a critical 2012 debut in the mwc.....move on? i believe this QB crisis deserves more thought...and discussion.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:54 am
#65
tks, serious. ive made that mistake for ever. nice catch.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: #32
Hello Southbay -- long time! Still in Torrance?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:58 am
The effort to improve should never end and the balance of positional numbers is always dynamic.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:01 am
huh? what's the meaning of irregardless?
warriorsun. do you see any qb's changing positions? is UH stocking the shelves with luncheon meat or spam? curious to see who the 2 qb's Rolo is looking at. hey al, any messages from the courier pigeons?
July 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
#57
lapdance, little chimpmunk hiding his cache in lower manoa tree, too funny. i like it. hiarious.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
or is that carrier pigeons? lol
July 20th, 2011 at 10:07 am
hmmpft?...perameters...cerealysly...cryteria...diereah...for ever...fiesta...all night long...
July 20th, 2011 at 10:10 am
'dis is hiarious
but of course, it was done intentionally...phat fingahs u no!
aloha, gotta go golphing now...
July 20th, 2011 at 10:10 am
damn haka, now i got that lionel ritchie song in my head. lol
July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 am
#87. couch potato. great questions.
i always try to answer questions through the acts of others. it's subtle, yet informative if you can reason. as an example. mac said he is recruiting two-QBs. one for now, and the later for the future. that should furnish a clue. we have enuff-back-ups dont we? so, mac is looking frontline stater. there you go. hope i answered one question.
#2. david graves is the only current QB on our roster i see with deep talent to play multi-positions on eitherside of the ball. jmo.
#3 as far as rolo is concerned--he has to be looking at graves, cayman and higgins....maybe in that pecking order. for me, i'd be looking southpaw, then the other two. i saw cayman and graves in the spring game--higgins needs a long look.
#4 luncheon meat or spam? what's the difference? the warrior program needs certfied usda prime rib-eye steak.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
No qb dramas in the offseason makes for a good qb situation during the season. Tate got his shot and did not make the grade. I still wish him the best of luck but there are thousands who are trying to find a place on a college football team.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:41 am
warriorsun, thanks for your input! ahhh, would be nice to have that usda prime rib-eye.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:50 am
I would not want to be on a field where this buffalo has been. Is Ralphie like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZhRynqoAzI
July 20th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Players need to watch what they do off the field too. Remember that drunk USC running back on TMZ? Well he is being suspended from the season opener.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/18/marc-tyler-suspended-for-uscs-season-opener-at-least/related/
July 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
MCTRUCK #28 & #29
Thank you for your kind wishes - and I will have a nice day.
I came from Alabamy with a banjo on my knee.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Morning to all you Tsai-kos
Trying to catch up on readings and see that many of you Tsai-kos are disappointed in Tate's situation.
I recall meeting Mr. Gouveia when he was first hired as Compliance Officer;
he and coach mack as very stand up moral character guys. They have helped many athletics to qualify at UH Manoa either thru gray shirt, red shirt, white shirt; they create a approach to build NCAA and UH Manoa qualifying standard for Warrior roster year after year.
And I believe they’ve done the research and Tate was not a Warrior qualifying athlete period.
Same as two other Gibs basketball recruits who failed to qualify.
And I believe as many of you were looking forward to these athletes coming to Manoa campus wearing a Warrior uniform.
And no doubt they would have upgraded both football and basketball program for all of us faithful Warrior fans.
But we don’t need to be like other big BCS program to lower our standard to become a Winning Program.
And Best of Luck to Mr.Forcier where ever he may land. There is always Division II Program. And still make it to NFL
July 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
USC loses dlineman due to academic issues. May need to keep an eye on this one.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/academic-issues-have-d-lineman-looking-to-be-released-from-usc/
July 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
stay grounded Warriors!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
100
July 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
darn...i need to wake up earlier.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Garret:
July 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am
UFL players need to find somewhere else to play.
It’s too bad UFL didn’t materialize. With a dead month of July/August for sports would have been great reason to watch the up and coming NFL qualifiers play.
What ever happen to the European World League NFL use to send players and sanction? That’s what UFL needed to survive.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Good Morning - or is it g'day?
The Compliance Office at UH has two full-time employees and one part-timer -
one having a JD degree.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:11 am
warriorsun,
"the tate forcier pursuit raises more questions than it answers on the second-floor."
I never got the impression Coach Mack was in pursuit of Forcier. It was my impression Forcier is in pursuit of UH. I have no idea what questions have been raised by Forcier's pursuit of UH.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:18 am
al
U losing yo touch.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:22 am
the coaches offices are located on the third floor. what's on the second floor?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am
The SEC's Commissioner laid out the changes that they have been discussing with other conferences and hopes to get approved by the NCAA. The SEC is working with other conferences to make widespread changes to the NCAA rules, against the wishes of their football coaches in some cases (like the higher GPA requirement). Quick summary:
1. Increase scholarships to the "true value" of attendance. We discussed this earlier and it would cost about $1 mil/year for UH to adhere to this assuming that all scholarship athletes (men and women) would be covered.
2. Make scholarships for multiple years instead of year-to-year. This would prevent schools from oversigning one year and then cutting scholarship players to make room. SEC coaches are the biggest example of the need for this rule since they cut so many players due to their oversigning.
3. Some financial aid to be made available for former student-athletes to get their undergraduate degrees outside of the current 6-year window. I like this rule and wish that all student-athletes could get their degree.
4. Work with the NFL to restrict agents from contacting college players.
5. Increase the minimum high school GPA for incoming freshmen from 2.0 to 2.5 in the 16 required core courses. An athlete can still get a scholarship if he/she doesn't have a 2.5 high school GPA, but they can't play as a freshman. This would exclude a lot of the recruits that the SEC takes now but might not be as harsh for UH due to UH's higher admission standards.
6. Extend the APR to high schools, so if an athlete doesn't meet annual GPA and class progress standards they cannot play as a freshman. I don't see how this would work since it would require a lot of work for the high schools.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/SEC-commish-Let-s-make-it-significantly-harder-?urn=ncaaf-wp3927
July 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am
tommui,
Wow...when did the Compliance office at UH expand 150%? That's good news, though.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am
#106, old diver,
your're being rhetorical and splitting hairs...but, i get ur point.
#108, good morn mr al...thanx for providing me the floor directory at uh, my reference was strickly "figurative", funny-stuff.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:46 am
i wonder how the gigi-hawaii and the dolphins are getting along? hope the dolphins don't go rabid or have temper tantrums and make like Flipper and jab her with its nose.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
#109
I wonder if the SEC's Commissioner will put the same guy in charge of compliance with current rules that nobody in the SEC follows.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am
#111
I was just getting that off my chest. A few weeks ago Coach Mack was getting slammed for not aggressively pursuing Forcier while at the same time getting slammed for pursuing Forcier with both sides wondering if Mack had a clue about recruiting. All the while Coach Mack was unable to say a word about the situation. This must have been a maddening time for him.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
couch potato...how many qb's do we have...really?
the early assessment does list a top three for 2012 and yes, higgins is opening many eyes during the unsupervised workouts.
the staff wanted to add at least one guy with more game experience. is that a catch-22? the former michigan guy would have fit the bill, meanwhile on the horizon are two qb's eligible to enroll/transfer by january.
one is a jc dude who has his academics in order who could enroll in january and participate in spring ball and summer workouts prior to entering the fall camp of 2012.
the second is a hs guy with great academics obviously who could also enroll in january in the same way that billy ray did. (this is becoming more and more the case with many recruits across the country, the early qualifier.)
come january we will have 5 carry over qb's from our current roster:
one has to show that his surgically repaired shoulder can toss the rock 50x per game.
another, should seek a transfer.
one, is the currently projected number one next year.
another, is the currently projected number two for next year.
a new transfer, once recruited by hawaii has returned and is opening eyes.
then there is a recruited january greyshirt who has yet to become eligible.
the two new guys, well they could be replacing one who may not even get here and then one to add to the immediate mix of potential starters.
i believe this is what they are thinking, well, at least this what that little majiro has been tweeting.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
When we had the chat with Coach Mack, it was very clear that he's an academics - first kind of a coach. UH Football has one of the better graduation rates rates around and Coach is proactive in that regard. That's a big plus for him and the players. Coach and others describe this year's team as being very smart collectively. Have to trust Mack's policies, as we see the results. There will be other QB candidates to ponder.
Currently , we have another version of the "holy grail" starting at QB. Before he became a starter, no one predicted the success Moniz has come to enjoy. Who's to say we don't have another HG waiting in the wings?
Further, with its current offense and a string of great coaches over the years, who's to say UH isn't partially responsible for "building" its own "holy grails" ala Chang, Brennan, and Moniz?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:58 am
If I recall correctly, the second floor has two dance studios, a snack bar, 2 practice gyms...and a partridge in a pear tree.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Garret, interesting proposals by the SEC commissioner. It almost makes you wonder if this is a pre-emptive move intended to draw some of the spotlight away from further revelations of NCAA violations by SEC schools.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
i believe that mack takes the forcier situation with a grain of salt. he's been in this recruit game long enough to know that you'll experience many of these hit and miss episodes.
but, you still need to go up to bat. relavent to baseball getting a hit in one of three tries is awesome numbers. i would imagine that in football recruiting the average is way below that.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
111...was all in fun. sorry about that one.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
curt...true that sometimes the birdie is on the second floor in that pear tree.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
So sad...=(
July 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
al,
I thought the birdie in the pear tree left with JJ and crew?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
why do we need 6-8 qb's on this team?
13 wr's
7 sb's
7 rb's
just to facilitate enough reps in practice we need a bevy of arms.
also, at least one qb to run the scout team.
if anything we have too many rb's right now as well. we could use another lineman or two. but, it is what it is.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
al
#121 Okay. I'll look for that lil birdie. Here birdie birdie.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
mih...got plenty birdies in hawaii.
mynah birds, sparrows, majiro, etc.
my neighbor got almost fifty by himself.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
So we pass on him. San Jose State University will pass on him too right?
I can't see how he could get in there but not here.
Looks like no more football for the kid unless he fixes his grades first and reapplies to some program next year or something.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
curt...no forget the birdie don't like seeds.
bring poke, sashimi, crab legs, la dat.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
iwwthm
Cheer up iwwthm. Ebby ting goin bee allryte.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
iwwthm...a good example of one needing to take care of business before he starts looking elsewhere.
hope he lands on his two feet.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Small bit of early info for those SoCal drivers planning to be here for the UNLV game.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Curt,
Thanks.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Wow. Dat birdie got sum appetite.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
#130 Al,
Yeah good luck to him. At least he isn't going to Nevada.
Maybe he can enter the supplemental draft. =p
July 20th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
iwonderwhytheyhateme:
He might end up in an FCS program and drift into anonymity... Maybe he should have tried to rectify his academics at Michigan while sitting on the bench for a season.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
al
I agree with you that one QB should probably transfer. At the chat, I think Mack indicated that he doesn't pull schollies if...
July 20th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tand, ur #98....my x-wife was from, (Forence, Alabama). who wood have thought that a minor error by my finger would lure in a Tand?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
For some reason I saw the picture of RK on the main page and for whatever reason I thought it was like a memorial/obit looking picture...Was like "oh no!" for a second.
Oh and congrats to RK...I am going to miss hearing his comments on 1420 while I am at the game.
Whoever is following him has big shoes to fill..literally.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Was that the "real" Guava that posted the other day? I still wonder who he is and what he's up to.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
ooops, sorry....florence, alabama.....here we go again, bwaaaahahaha!!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
al
Tiger Woods looking for a new caddie. Let Stevie go. Get #2 to apply.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
here's a guy that we haven't heard much from that i am excited to see on the field.
justin vele, farrington hs.
during his junior year all the talk was about that fehoko kid (remember him...i didn't think so), but all the while his coaches and teammates knew who the "man" was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZiJz-80dNQ
yup, really looking forward to his arrival.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
duffer...maybe. i'll tell #2.
(will somebody give him a job already)
July 20th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
hey, duffer...is it true that phil mickleson was interested in that position?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
*Cody Green Not Going To USC*
Ok bye bye Tate...Can we bring in the Mean Green Machine for a visit?
Hellooooo =). We can offer more than Tulsa can right? And Baylor? lol...Baylor.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/30714839
July 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
al,
strange u shud mention qb-Higgins....I wuz thinking bout him while taking my afternoon nap; I thought he might be the next starter in 2012, as his high school ran a variation of the run and shoot, right??...local kid who might fit right in.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Buffalo Springfield--Top 33 album of all time.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
re: Cody Green.
I know he said that Tulsa and Baylor are on his final list. But the kid looks like he is big on high flyin big scorin offenses.
Bring him here, let the white sands and the warm waters of our beaches..and he gets to play USC (the school that may have passed on him) in 2012 etc...
Worth a shot...never up never in.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
146...yah jeremy has great dna. dad played on the oline for hawaii. mom was a great athlete at sacred hearts. eldest brother was an all american qb at weber state. second eldest brother is a stellar safety for weber state. kid sister, taylor (punahou) is being recruited by dave shoji as a future setter. baby brother should follow in dad's footsteps.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
wouldn't this be a good time for higgins to try to hook up with timmy chang?, or cannot do?
I figure if that was possible, it would advance his game skills tremendously, after all, they are both St. Louis grads.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Wow lau lau, lose money deez guys... All hype but no promise. Coach Gib taking academic casualties in DeShawn Mitchell and Ronnie Stevens... possibly Gerry Blakes and Dillon Biggs too, that's 3/4's of that recruiting class for basketball. Sad. Tate Forcier as much hype as this guy is getting for being a big time football player, sad cannot make the grades.
High School guys is half their fault and half the parents, counselors fault at their school. Most high school kids don't know what it takes to academically qualify for a D1 college. Most think making good grades is it but little do they know certain classes are required such as Algebra 2, decent ACT or SAT score, etc... Parents and Counselors should be helping these athletes get the right classes and tutors, etc... Granted the kids themselves need to put in the work and make the grade but still some are left to fend for themselves and then what happens, they end up going the juco route and most times don't make it back into D1 level. There is so much wasted talent out there due to athletes not qualifying. Shute over here at AWC alone I think we got 5-6 All State football players that should be at UH right now. Most kids don't get the help or push to make it...so sad if you ask me!
Regardless, I never really care about the whole Tate Forcier situation, if he came good, if not, I wasn't losing any sleep over it. I think we have quarterbacks on the roster who will develop into something great, just takes some game reps. Think about it when Coach Rolo played, did anyone think he was gonna put up ridiculous numbers right away??? Nope. Did anyone think Colt Brennan when he walked on was going to be a Heisman candidate??? Nope. Did anyone think Bryant Moniz was going to be a Heisman candidate??? Nope. So I not worried, we got come ballers at the position, and garrans Coach Rolo gonna unleash one of the boys waiting in the stable behind Moniz for next year. We just gonna keep on rolling!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
jeremy works out with vinnie passas the qb guru of st louis.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
chow-time....laters.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
current roster of qb underclassmen (5)--graves, shutter, spain, nielson. higgins is listed but has not been assigned a number....justin alo, a grayshirt, expected to enroll in january (6).
mac wants two-more, that makes 8.
ok. after spring--which has no roster restrictions, mac will need to re-evaluate his qb scholies. imo, cory nielson is at-risk. he will have had three-years to make an impression and @ the 2012 mark will enter his 4th year. in year-4, a qb is no longer embellished with the word potential, unless you are a solid back-up. entering summer camp 2011, nielson is not on the top-4 on the depth chart.
kevin spain.
warrior qbs may pass 50 times a game but haw qbs literally toss hundreds in a single practice, thousands in-a-hurry.
that is the test. jmo. dont count on spain for 2011 and 2012 is anybody's guess or until he can rip-off thousands of tosses in a week without flinching. we havent discussed qb-IQ, accuracy or other qb-mean testing. spain gets his second mulligan this season--how many are rolo and mac willing to give kevin?
justin alo will be skating on his first year. unless he bombs--he remains.
the other two to-be-named--speculative at best.
we have had two big juco recruits that have paid high dividends in the past. rolo and colt.
but both needed a year to get their house in order, although colt finished strong as a starter in his first year.
unless, rolo is looking at another cam newton from blinn college, we cannot expect the talent bar to be raised above cayman or david.....that brings me to 6-2, jeremy higgins, he could be the sleeper?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
tate can still go the sjsu. i'm betting they are more willing to let him get his academics in order. UH grooms their qb's and would love to have had tate on the practice field but since he no can concentrate in the classroom then aloha means goodbye, in tate's case.
thank you al for the synopsis. majiro's are good targets for bb gun practice.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
jc = moniz
July 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
buffalo break...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY&feature=related
July 20th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
like dpk said...once a scholie athlete always on scholie. per mack.
unless of course academic blowup or legal problems interfere.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Maybe I missed this...but has UH already talked with and passed on Cody Green?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
or death or quits.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
you missed it.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
MMM... fish soup for lunch. Almost as good as the act of fishing and catching...
I prefer hand poles, dunking and spinning.
Got no time for trollers.
HiHo!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
ps.
If Tate really wants to be a Warrior, let him go to a JC, work hard on both sides of the brain and body, and present himself humbly and prepared. I think our coaches would give him a look. There is precedence for that.
He's a young man and there is always an opportunity to learn from the past to improve the future.
A Hui Ho!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
MadeinHawaii #110 - that's what I was told by he-who-is-not-to-be-named but works at the Lower Campus.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Will the Vaunted SEC fall to the investigative graces of the NCAA? Hope so, you arrogant ....!
Is this why the SEC commish is making an effort to "clean his house"? Stop a scratch from becoming gangreen!
Is this why the SEC has been "The football coonference" the past decade? By ignoring NCAA or conference "rules" so they can have many, many winning seasons and go to umpteen BCS bowl games and win national titles?
My pick for SEC upstart in 2011 is Mississippi State!!! Win it all, baby!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
tom mui:
do we have a Voldermot in the lower campus? where is our Harry Potter?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
The great thing I like about the quarterback position this year is Shane Austin. If something happens to Moniz this year, I really believe that Shane Austin can still win football games for us. Remember in 2007 when Colt got rocked, we still had Tyler Graunke to win games. We need that this year just in case. It is a long season and it will be crucial that our #2 starter can still be effective and win games for us. I really like Shane Austin's confidence when he steps on the field and flings it all over the field. We need that in our #2 just in case we need to call on him.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
#165,
Miss St eh?...At least you never pick Vanderbilt. lol.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Justin Vele hits like a Mack Truck. When he hits people, they are apt to fumble. On top of that he defends the pass well and has made a lot of interceptions from his LB position. He as great football instincts. He's a stud.
Nothing wrong with JC players and I'm not only talking about QBs. The Juice, O.J. Simpson, went to San Francisco City College and transferrd to USC. Alex Green is also a fine example.
Tank Hopkins too. The bottom line is, if you can play on the DI level somebody will find you.
Of course, Cam Newton is the latest great story out of JC. And dont forget, Aaron Rodgers went to the same JC as Alex Green, Butte CC, before he went to Cal.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
The courtship sounded one-sided because only the player's side is allowed to make public comments.
But UH really, really was interested in Forcier. Here's why:
• UH is opening 2012 with road games at USC and BYU.
• While the Warriors are high on Graves, he has not taken a meaningful snap in a game yet. They want an experienced player to challenge him. Higgins is an unknown. Spain hasn't made enough throws. Alo, if he were to get admitted, would be a down-the-road guy.
• UH really likes Forcier's arm strength and technique.
• UH is entering the MWC in 2012.
• Somebody is signed only through 2012.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Vele appears to be very talented.
There are a lot of good pass-rushers on the d-line.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
#170,
Great reasons to have been pursuing someone like Forcier. Having played in the Big 10, I think the road games at USC and BYU would not affect him (screaming 70k-100k fans, hostility etc).
Some people on other forums are saying he is going to sign with SJSU but I think that's impossible? If his academics can't cut it here, how can it cut it at another Div 1 school?
I am pretty sure he goes to a CC and then makes it to a D1AA school in a year or whatever.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
ST,
Has a "source" at UHAD discussed Cody Green with you before? The guy seems to like teams who throw the ball all over.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Vele and Leaf are two recruits that I'm very high on!
One thing I like about Higgins is that he is a LEFTY! That could be huge!
BIK
July 20th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
#116 I agree. Both Colt and Mo were 1 star or no star recruits coming out of high school and both ended up running this offense at a very high level. Shutter was a 3 star recruit and Graves a 2 star but Graves did not play QB as a junior or he would have been rated higher. Both of them have the potential to be as good or better than Mo or Colt and we got two of them in case one gets hurt. I think Mack did his homework in putting us in good shape after Mo graduates.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
SEC Media Days
I guess because I have only seen Will Muschamp screaming and yelling on the field that I am surprised he is actually a very articulate speaker.
Haven't heard a single "um, uh, oh"
July 20th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Stephen, great write up this morning. Question, you mentioned Graves, Shutter, Spain, Higgins and even Alo who is not enrolled yet.. Why no mention of Corey Nielsen?
July 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
#177,
I can't say I know enough about Nielsen to say he is or isn't a good prospect. I did hear some talk about him on 1420 but they weren't giving him stellar reviews.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
you win some, you lose some.... hope Tate all the best!! Can't evaluate the talent unless they get into school, so really there's nothing that we gain or lose.
I'm disappointed though at our basketball recruiting, seems like we Biggs and Blakes won't be here.... that's tough. Hopefully Coach can get to them in early in 8th or 9th grade and focus them to get in school here.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Nielsen's a good guy and a hard worker. He just isn't high enough on the depth chart, at the moment.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I have not heard Cody Green mentioned.
UH was in talks with a high-profile guy until recently. But it appears he won't be able to enroll at UH this fall. That puts him on the open market, and bigger schools will be making a push for him.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
#181,
Interesting. Since we aren't recruiting him anymore, maybe the coaches will leak the name. =)
How come he is unable to enroll in the fall at UH but other bigger schools can push for him?
July 20th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Al - #157
Funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same. That song was about the turbulent political and social scene of the 60s, flash forward to summer 2011 and look at the mess in Washington.
Like the songs says, "Battle lines being drawn, nobody's right if everybody's wrong"...
July 20th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
OKay...time to get back in the mix. Looking forward to the season opener and confirmed for the UH-UNLV game in Vegas!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
While we're at it, here's another oldie but newbie.
"The Same Old Wine"
By Loggins and Messina
Well we give them the election
They keep filling our heads full of lies
Can we trust in new directons
When their promises are in disquise
Well someday the truth will catch up
I just hope it don't catch us all by surprise
They preach this thing, religion
But we show no faith at all
Follow suit on Sunday
But on Monday, forget it all
If the times should find us needing Him
Then my friends, Lord have mercy on our soul
It's the same old wine
In a brand new bottle
It's the same old wine
In a brand new bottle
Teach our children virture
Then we send'em off to war
Then we ask ourselves the question
What and the hell are we fighting for
If you should find a reason
Well don't be afraid to open the door
Well don't be afraid
Same old wine
From a brand new bottle
Same old wine
From a brand new bottle
The same old wine
From a brand new bottle
***
Pray for our country. Pray for the "leaders" of our country.
Sorry for going off topic. I'm off the soap box now.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
IWWTHM re #182. UH standards are higher than most schools in the WAC - need higher GPAs, test scores etc.
UH is regarded as one of the top 200 universities in the nation. It becomes a matter of prestige for the faculty - most of whom don't give a rip about athletics. So if upper campus lowers its standards to allow people with lower scores, GPAs etc, the Academic types fear that the academic prestige we now have will drop.
It's unfortunate as we lose out on many players we would want to recruit.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
With all these Dreaming of going into MWC with Tate would've been slam dunk coming up two years maybe even dream of another Sugar Bowl....
But ahh we can still dream on and thanks to:
al: July 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm buffalo break...
That feeling called Nostalgia, thanks for great Time out
checking out and going home to watch "Damages" Aloja...
July 20th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
#186,
Ahhh ic ic.
That being said, I give a lot of credit to schools like Cal, USC, Stanford, UCLA, Notre Dame etc....Those kids not only play ball but they must all be excellent students.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Oh well life goes on, personally I think UH will be just fine. Looking forward to David Graves and Shutter getting a chance to BALL!!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Eh what the hell….
Here's a newbie, but still a newbie.
(enter bouncy reggae rhythm with FAT bass line as smooth as a stroll... GOOD reggae kine, no Steinlager double-fisting allowed.)
If I could just only ask of one more thing I'd want from you
Well it would go like this
Would you open up and accept me for the way I am to you,
Get a clue
And if you tell me "boy I love you but you gotta change your ways",
Well I would say any day
My love's afraid
That we have crashed and burned, there ain't no sign of repair,
Girl, tell me this isn't fair
Oh and still I wonder why
We're always buzzing by
And each and every night
You know I come home to you
We're at the same old situation
We're at the same old loss of words
We're at the same old situation,
Here it goes once again
We're at the same old situation
We're at the same old loss of words
We're at the same old situation,
Here it goes
And there could be, girl I just want to walk with you hand in hand,
Back when I was your man
And you hold me, hold me like the world was promising and then
Tell me this I pretend
And lift me up and you shot me down, you took me out the sky,
And now I'm wondering why
Yeah I'm struggling on, how you got me singing like a sing along
Tell me I'm not aside, I'm out of mind
And still I wonder why
We're always buzzing by
And each and every night
You know I come home to you.
We're at the same old situation
We're at the same old loss of words
We're at the same old situation,
Here it goes once again
We're at the same old situation
We're at the same old loss of words
We're at the same old situation,
Here it goes once again
And I know, and you know
We would be broken but this is not the end
And we both know that it's our last show
Nowhere left to go.
We're at the same old situation
We're at the same old loss of words
We're at the same old situation,
Here it goes once again
We're at the same old situation
We're at the same old loss of words
We're at the same old situation,
Here it goes once again
I don't want anymore,
It's the same old situation
No, I don't want anymore
No more.
-"Same Old Situation" written and performed by Sublime with Rome.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
"808Rude"
I like dat name.
Not one "rudeboy" yeah? No need dat kine.
Yesterday had one "rudie" ova hea. Still get but maybe stay happy hour in Kalihi right now.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
mama mia!
happy birthday girl!
July 20th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Hey Kev. Like dat name too.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Not to mention da buggah is right. We gonna be fine.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
189...are you related to that wrestler rick rude?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
SteveM .... yup. Do I know you? or do you know me?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
some old guys might remember more buffalo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBQ2HbowaZo&feature=related
July 20th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
for old guys like stevem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIPan-rEQJA&feature=related
July 20th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Who woke up al?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
curt
July 20th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Boom...200!
July 20th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
200
July 20th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
got you
July 20th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Doggonnit. He boned me...again.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
going for the trifecta later tonight
July 20th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
curt...you really should use another word.
boned sounds kind of gay.
its embarrassing to me.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Aiyah. Da sensei beats up da pupil.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
here curt just for you...turn up the volume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXdXI_P3B21HQwGMgiUNjn8T
July 20th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
You're right. I don't mind embarrassing you but it does sound little...
July 20th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
... nevermind.
(too easy)
July 20th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
see what i mean?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
We all could use a little Creedence Clearwater Revival here and there.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
curt...i'll be back for the third century. gonna do something nice for some folks.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Okay. I'm recalling #204.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
al's going for the hat trick tonight.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
AH! The late/great Rick Rude...
Hated dat guy when I was a kid so he did his job well.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
al
Did you hear ST on ESPN1420 about 20-30 minutes ago? Apparently, he knows the identity of the two QBs joining us in January. He says one of them is well known or something to that effect. I'm thinking the JC recruit must be Alo. The well known one must be the high school player. Who could that be?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
aiyah.. Credence Clearwater Revival as in... "I see a bad moon rising.. "...? Before the football season?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
It came out as I was returning to the world.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Could the celebrated one be the JC QB? I don't think so as I believe Alo is an under-the-radar recruit. Unless ST was talking about another JC QB?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
When I hear "bad moon rising," I think of the movie, American Werewolf in London.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Where's gigi? Did the dolphins have her for lunch?
July 20th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Those dolphins must love Korean food.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
alo is a guy we recruited last year. he is a targeted greyshirt, however, he still needs to qualify.
he would be an interesting get if he gets through the wringer. his wr in hs is a soft usc commit and wanted to trip hawaii cuz his qb will be here.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Are you saying Tsai stumbles alot?
July 20th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
stumbles, bumbles, rumbles, touchdown
July 20th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
33. The 150 pounda had ciguatera anyway. If we ate um, we would get sick.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I will say this once again, QB for 2012, it is Graves to lose.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Jake Rodrigues is planning to graduate early and start college in January 2012. We must have been able get him to decommit from Oregon and play for us. Just moving on to the next dream catch...
July 20th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
And the Beat goes on... Warrior Beat that is!
Happy Birthday to Mia! Wow! She was my son's kindergarten teacher. Small world, huh?!
Go Warriors!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
ST,
Dunno if you got my text, but thanks for da kine for da kid!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
al,
2,000 rings of No Ka Oi sold out in 45 minutes. Gotta wait for the last batch next week.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
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you want to talk about lets go
again you dont know when to keep your mouth shout
today i wouldnt have thrown any darts at you
but there you go again
i wouldnve let by gones been bygone on my side
but not you obv.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Hi folks!
To see pics of me and hubby playing with the dolphins, please click on my name.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Curt, I LOVE Your sense of humor.
Korean food indeed.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
#235 gigi wow I clicked (bad internet habit) and I really enjoyed the pictures. Thanks and nice job.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
al,
saw your list of what positions the warriors need to recruit and fill
would the warrirors need to start looking for a punter, long snapper
July 20th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Instead of getting mad, people should step away from the computer for a bit. Fourteen consecutive hours logged on isn't healthy.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
ST, #239, what would you say if someone is logged on for 48 hours?
July 20th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Btw, is ST changing, normally he lives at the UHAD, at least, that is what I have been told. But lately you could actually find him at his desk next to Ferd.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
it's pretty dead right now.
just got back from dinner.
Curt, fyi I ordered Korean crispy chicken, namasu and rice.
not bad for hotel food.
there was a duo who performed Sinatra music.
2 people got up and danced the fox trot.
terrific!
when are we going to dance at the hale koa, Curt?
July 20th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Laura, ST is still on vacation.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
hey duffer, maybe that's the way to do business. tell everyone this is the last week, then say ok, extended one more week. hahahahahahaaa
July 20th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I discovered it is best to shut down the computer each night to allow updates.
Don't just put it to sleep.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Gigi, were you able to hold onto the dolphins dorsal fin and have it drag you around the lagoon?
July 20th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
no.
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July 20th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Hey, CCR is not old. Now this is more our speed...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg4FvOi-N18
...dust off the boards (the 10' and 30-lb ones).
July 20th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
I have been waiting for 3 years to see Justin in a warrior uniform. Vele will impress.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Everytime I hear KFC I think of korean fried chicken.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
So does this mean it is better to cheat???
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15312728/major-ncaa-violations-yield-relatively-minor-consequences/rss
July 20th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
gigi
Nice photos. Looks like you're having a great time on the Big Island. I'm jealous.
Dancing? How's hubby's foot doing? Is he ready to shake a leg? I don't know if wifey can handle it though as everytime she boogies, her achilles heel/ankle acts up on her. We can try sometime soon if you'd like. Of course SteveM wants to participate in the karaoke part so we'll have to include him.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Looks like Karl Benson is going to the NCAA presidents retreat.
http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/30714155
July 20th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Curt,
hubby says he'll be ready in a couple weeks.
That haole couple we watched dance tonight were terrific.
good rhythm.
and she was wearing sandles, too, as I plan to do.
maybe, Meg should wear sandles instead of high heels.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Shark bait hoo ha ha.
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Who the heck bought hubby's board shorts? lol
July 20th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIA!
Arm bar! C'mon tap out!
July 20th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
homey, they are swimming trunks, not shorts.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
You say toe-mah-toe I say board shorts.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
At least they aren't like the speedos SteveM wears. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
July 20th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
gigi
Sinatra music and the dance floor sounds like fun. Maybe we'll plan for a Hale Koa visit in Aug. I'll check back with you later on this. It'll be our pre-season football warm up.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
al
We're still quite a ways from 300. Hopefully, you'll get your trifecta.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
I don't think Laura is really a Laura.
She can prove me wrong by stopping by the p-t-gate in August.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
All of a sudden, it feels like the QB position at the University of Hawaii has jumped up a few notches on the national football meter. Even the brief mentions of Tate's courtship on ESPN, yahoo sports, etc....priceless! Future recruiting is going to be interesting. Go Rolo!
BIK
July 20th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
homey, who cares?
leave Laura alone.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Why gigi. Just because he befriends you? Sucker! LOL
July 20th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
There are about 5,000 new football players in FBS and FCS every year, coming in from high schools and junior colleges. That makes me more concerned about what the Hawaii coaches do to identify which of those 5,000 players they want to add to the Warrior football team each year, and keeps me from getting too excited when a Tate Forcier or Cody Green wants to transfer from their current school.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Curt, August sounds cool. I am all for it.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Yeah al, who's the backup long snapper? Man, I gotta go to the fall practices and check out the speed this year.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
SteveM wears speedos? He must've found out my secret technique to attract the babes. Of course, it didn't work too well for me; all it attracted was hungry mosquitos.
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July 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Whatever floats your boat Curt. Must be cute seeing them on the clothesline.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
You're right homey; they're cuter on the clothes line.
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July 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Homey...he's gonna be a backup qb of course.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
#230,
Jake Rodrigues?
Hah...I love your sense of humor or imagination or both.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Steve Spurrier wasn't too thrilled about Slive's commitment to raise academic standards for student athletes in the SEC.
Wonder how that will affect recruiting in a conference which relies so heavily on getting top talent.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Curt - I guess wearing speedos is better than wearing the Spiderman bvds. Well either way, you'll still look cute in them. lol
al - Hard to get accustomed to your uppercase.
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Wanna go to a certain college, then meet the minimum academic standard for that college. If no can then go elsewhere.
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homey
In speedos, I look as cute as a gorilla wearing one.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
They should play this song when colorado takes the field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSujn5K2lS8
July 20th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
BYU v. SDSU on BYUTV.
The tv formatting sucks...hope they get a grip on it before the start of the season.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
RedZone - LOL, I had to bust out the ukulele and play along.
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July 20th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Justin Alo and Jeremy Higgins are the two QB's ST was talking about earlier today.
C'mon folks...get with the program!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Is Jake Rodrigues the hs QB coming to Hawaii? I know we were recruiting him at one time and that he had committed to Oregon. Has there been a change of heart?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Curt - You hairy as a gorilla?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
al
Get ready!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
No can be Higgins. He's here already.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Boom!
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July 20th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Sorry al. Even tho u mah friend, I had to take u down.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
After all, what r good friends 4?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Sorry homey...next time.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Homey...using an iPad. It has a mind of it's own. It picks up the uppercase automatically. I don't know to circumvent the override.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I guess speedos keeps you alert.
Boxers rule!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
I mean if you were to wear something, boxers rule!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Doesn't the iPad have a settings app for the keyboard? Like a general settings where you can turm off auto cap...What happens if you need to enter a password and your password is all lower case? Do you do the reverse and hold the shift key so the caps becomes lower case?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
al - newbie...
July 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Interesting if the hs QB is Rodrigues. Could it be related to the NCAA violations that caused a possible change of heart? Oregon is also where St. Louis QB Marcus Mariota is going to. Hmmm. I wonder what the birdie says?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
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right homey
July 20th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Curt...I was watching the l & l show.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
huh? You are correct. He already slipped.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
DVD time. Goodnight all!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Homey...I tried. But, I know it's here somewhere..
July 20th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
homey did you slip
July 20th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
homey i have to say you one cool cuucumber
July 20th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
thanks homey.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Jake Rodrigues...I doubt it...but oh joy if it were true.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
In my dreams, I would hope that the hs recruit is Mariota. He's a stud with great stats. But, he's already headed to Oregon...with their possible NCAA violation(s).
July 20th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Hawaiian...not so.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
curt....you get one birdie, too?
July 20th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
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Sorry al. I got no birdie. Periodically, I make educated guesses.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Awww...I missed homey tonight.
Shhhhh...yeah, nothing like mine....
July 20th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Nitey nite and Tsweet Warrior Dreams!
July 21st, 2011 at 12:00 am
Al is using an iPad?
I was wondering when he learned to use the shift key...
July 21st, 2011 at 12:12 am
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July 21st, 2011 at 12:47 am
This published on July 20th pretty much puts Rodrigues with Oregon no matter what.
http://usc.scout.com/a.z?s=15&p=2&c=1088024&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fusc.scout.com%2f2%2f1088024.html
July 21st, 2011 at 1:10 am
Night all!
July 21st, 2011 at 1:35 am
Geee, thanks, eh! I may not have the courage to do either-- but I'm in!
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Who was the celefrated JC-AA who scoutdotcom mentioned was headed for UH?? unfortunately, they were fishing for too many specific$.
July 21st, 2011 at 2:31 am
celefrated=celebrated
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According to, jcscoutdotcom; UH has offered, (wideout, Jordan Calhoun)from College of the Desert. As freshman in 2010, his stats: 68 receptions, for over 1,100 yds. and-11 tds.
(6' 205lbs., 4.4/40)
so far, offered by UH/Oregon St.
after 2011, will have 3 to play 2., unless he's the one who's headed to UH this year???
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