Game day: Fresno State

November 3rd, 2012
By

tunnel

Things to know about today's game:

• The Bulldogs, who enter as 33.5-point favorites, are averaging 50 points and 555 yards at Bulldog Stadium.

• The Warriors have won the last three meetings at Bulldog Stadium.

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Scenes from yesterday's walk-through:

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03Darius Bright

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05Mike Edwards

06Ne'Quan Phillips

412 Responses to “Game day: Fresno State”

  1. J:

    Morning, can't watch the game live today. Being guilted into attending SDAFF gala.


  2. Buffoman:

    Wow, In the top 5!


  3. Chicken Grease:

    TODAY

    THE WARRIOR ["E'oooooooooooooooo!!!!!"]

    THE BULLDOG ["Grrrr!!!!" "Bow-wow!!!"]

    FRESNO (everybody, duck!!!!! And, no, Oregon ain't up in hea!!!!)

    GAME

    TODAY (already said that, $)17, sorry.)

    1:00 PM, Hawaii time!!!!!!!

    Annnnnnnnnd . . . the TV advisement, re: Oceanic digital,
    from Oceanic digital ch. 1:

    UH Warrior Pay Per View

    Sat 11/03/12 Warrior Football:
    UH at Fresno State
    ch 255 and HD1255

    Order your package or event by tuning to channel 254 or calling 643-3333.

    Ch. 254 also lists the bars on Oahu at which you can watch THE GAME (UH vs. Fresno St., not the David Fincher-directed, Michael Douglas-starring film) . . . as of this writing.

    __________________________________________


  4. wth:

    Good luck Warriors.

    Nice picture of Darius Bright who misses 2 practices reportedly AWOL or sick and somehow nobody knew his whereablouts..makes the trip. We trip 4 less players and players working their butts off, that are not ailing dont make the trip?

    Whats the real deal? Only thing real today is GOOD LUCK WARRIORS for the sake of the team, the fans and Hawaii.


  5. Kekoa:

    I feel like FRESNO today. I think I should probably not have any sharp objects in my hands today,


  6. Bugaz:

    Best of luck to our Warriors!


  7. Bugaz:

    Congrats Kahuku!


  8. Bugaz:

    Way to go Softball Wahine!


  9. PurpleMaple:

    Let's see if Warriors can stay in the game with the Bulldogs.


  10. Bugaz:

    Gonna try and make it out for the VB Wahine game tonight


  11. Matt:

    Good morning. Good luck Warriors!


  12. BaddaMo'oMan:

    Good Morning!

    Congrats Kahuku! OIA D1 Football Champions!
    Congrats Radford! OIA D2 Football Champions!
    Congrats Punahou! HHSA D1 Girls V-Ball Champions!
    Congrats St. Francis! HHSA D2 Girls V-Ball Champions!

    Best Of Luck To Our Warriors!


  13. 3-Prong:

    GO WARRIORS!

    Speaking of UH QBs. Steele Jantz and Iowa State playing Oklahoma to 0-0 thus far. Start of 2nd quarter. Pretty good arm strength and quick release.


  14. Calvin From Kona:

    Aloha from Pine Lake, WA


  15. Chicken Grease:

    Good morning to everyone up early (thank you [doomo arigatou gozaimasu for waking up early):
    • 3-Prong
    • BaddaMo'oMan
    • Buffoman
    • Bugaz (4 times "good morning" to you, sheesh)
    • Calvin from Pine Lake, WA (is that near Ponderosa Pines by any chance?)
    • J
    • Kekoa
    • Matt
    • PurpleMaple
    • wth

    . . . and good morning, Mr. Tsai.

    GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!


  16. wafan:

    Good morning, again!


  17. Chicken Grease:

    Wafan!!!! Good morning (ohayooooooogozaimasu) to you!!!!!

    Thanks for waking up . . . early. :D


  18. Chicken Grease:

    Mr. Tsai . . . what's the breakfast today in Fresno? You got fresh eggs? Bwaahahahahahahahahah, get it? Get it? Nah, for reals, what is the Fresno breakfast today, please to tell, onegai.


  19. wafan:

    A Grease . . .

    Glad to have awakened.

    You are up early or is it late.


  20. greenthumb:

    Morning! Trivia for fun, and maybe even ideas that UH could support, on this hopeful game day. Inspired by our host's first photo today....

    Fresno has doggie bones, USC has retired (?) jerseys in the end zone in the Coliseum, etc. What kinds of permanent or semi-permanent stuff could we have at Aloha Stadium? Nothing as obnoxious as Boise's blue field, but what kinds of spirit things can we think of?

    I'll start with ^^^^^ wraps around the goal posts


  21. kkobi425:

    Calvin from Kona thats a nice lake. Went fishing up there twice. You must know somebody rich. Todays Seattle P-I listed Sammamish in the top 5 richest cities.


  22. koakane i5:

    morning 808


  23. Chicken Grease:

    Good morning, greenthumb. Thanks for waking up early.

    How 'bout big, aesthetically enhanced versions of Warrior players' tattoos?[!] aroundt the stadium?

    WHO GOT GOOD FEELING ABOUT A W FOR UH TODAY? A W NOT ONLY BY WAY OF THE NICKNAME WARRIORS?????

    GO WARRIORS!!!!!


  24. Chicken Grease:

    kkobi425 and koakane i5, good morning!!! Thanks for waking up early!!!

    OK. That's it for special "good mornings" to early risers. (read: time has passed already.)


  25. koakane i5:

    congrats to all high school winnas yesterday. did I see correctly? Kahuku put the hurt on Leileihua by 50 damn

    sending best wishes to warrior fballers. go hard and balls to da wall


  26. Slugger:

    Good morning, gang!

    ST ~ Thanks for the pictures! My boys!

    GO WARRIORS!!!

    GO WAHINE!


  27. Bugaz:

    Kahuku put up 50 on Mililani


  28. kkobi425:

    Good morning Grease. Can't wait for the extra hour of sleep tonight.


  29. 3-Prong:

    Kahuku D didn't let them in the game. Impressive win. Are they nationally ranked?


  30. PolyMom:

    Morning Warrior Fans

    If you live in the SoCal area the Hawaii game is on for free.

    TWCSD Channel 403 game starts at 4. This is the Tine Warner Cable Sports HD network. Looks like they have all the MWC games for free.

    GO WARRIORS!


  31. Chicken Grease:

    # 16 Tex' A&M vs. # 15 Mississippi St. goin on right now. Players of Miss' St. got HAIL STATE on the back of their jerseys. Fans doing a white out @ iMss' St.'S stadium.

    Doesn't seem to be working. Aggies 31, "Hail State" zip at this time.

    Enjoy that extra hour tonight, kkobi425.


  32. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    GO WARRIORS!
    GO WAHINE!!


  33. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  34. HiFlyer:

    Good morning to all the early risers and to those to follow.

    Go Warriors


  35. greenthumb:

    23, Mr. Grease, very creative idea to have players' tattoo art showcased. Years in the future, they can point to it and "remember when".... Definitely need to do something to make the stadium more personal and less generic.


  36. Ballpicker:

    Good luck Warriors today. I know u guys can do it. So put the pedal to the metal and don't let up till the end.

    Tsai, ur my hero. You get to live in hawaii, but yet get to travel and what? Play blackjack! Good luck to u.make some $ for the "family". And then you come back to paradise. Now that's living the dream.

    DPK aloha my fellow allumni.

    Go Warriors. Bang Bang!


  37. mo808:

    Great Warrior Football Day Folks!


  38. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Bang Bang right back atcha BP! Good to see you here buddy!


  39. mo808:

    Game Day Ready!


  40. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Mornin' Miss Mo!

    72 hours for a swashbucklin' ittle piratess?! That's devotion!


  41. mo808:

    And theres always Oregon vs USC game to watch too! :)


  42. Ballpicker:

    Yup. Cruising but work later today. Catching up on the wb. All's I say is Imua to the Warriors.

    Go Warriors


  43. WarriorNY:

    Morning all!
    Let's go Warriors!


  44. mo808:

    DPK

    I always wanted to be a theater set designer or costume designer :)

    I still do so vicariously through my keiki's keiki :)


  45. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Don't know if ur lurkin' Gmahoney, but how bout them Saints?!

    Rallyin' back to take it all... sweet! Great day to be an alum of the school whose teams used to be the Troubadours! :)


  46. Ballpicker:

    Does it go something like this? I am the warrior, bang.. Bang . Something la dat!

    Go Warriors


  47. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Kahuku is in the Juggernaut mode. If they keep playin' like this...


  48. Ballpicker:

    Plus watch free football. Darn!


  49. kev-1:

    greenthumb,

    Let's go true warrior style . . . Hawaiian battle spears sticking out of the ground with selected opposing team helmets scewerd on them.


  50. Na Koa Mike:

    We're catching up with Kelly McGill today.

    McGill was an offensive lineman on the 1991 to 1994 teams. McGill was an undersized (6-1, 246) starter at right tackle on the 1992 co-WAC championship and Holiday Bowl champion team. He was an honorable mention All-WAC performer in his senior year.

    http://www.nakoa.org/2012/11/football-alumni-kelly-mcgill/


  51. manoa#1:

    man we shud of sent kahuku to fresno this week.


  52. kev-1:

    Agree that Kahuku looked unstoppable last night. Mililani's o-line got battered, which led to some tough QB decisions.


  53. Ballpicker:

    Yes Kev-1 , do it today!!


  54. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    BP -

    Shootin at the walls of heartache - bang bang! I AM THE WARRIOR!!!


  55. kev-1:

    we should send manoa#1 into the UH locker room for some motivation


  56. Ballpicker:

    :) that's the one DPK!

    Where is that Tsai guy? Working ? I don't think so.

    Go Warriors


  57. Ballpicker:

    Kev-1,

    No sacrifices today. Lol


  58. Jack Flash:

    Like Stutz said, "have fun!" GO WARRIORS!!!


  59. Ballpicker:

    16, 17, 18, 19, Stand! Really?

    We all love what u do for us. Break the bank!


  60. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  61. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Dats da faks Jack!!! Just have fun!!!

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  62. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    #55 -

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  63. WarriorNY:

    Na Koa Mike,
    Nice feature on Mr. McGill...


  64. Chicken Grease:

    Final:

    Louisville 45
    Temple 17

    An owl cries . . .


  65. PolyMom:

    Texas A&M WIN!
    My Louisville CARDS a huge WIN!

    Up next Manti Te'o. Starts in ten minutes folks.

    But let me say this, Charlie Strong is one BAD ARZ Coach. Two years ago, he said we would be going to a BCS game. He kept his promise.

    Don't miss the Quack Pack with ST. Louis high school Mariota. And catch the UCLA game. UCLA could win the PAC 12 South. Happy to have the cross town rivalry back. Thank God for DVR.


  66. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    May Buddha have mercy on us today in Fresno.

    Go Warriors.


  67. Moocher:

    let's hope there's no crying and whining on the blog today.
    hahaha :)


  68. Moocher:

    go here for Internet streaming games
    http://www.thefirstrow.eu/sport/american-football.html


  69. Chicken Grease:

    # 65. Hope Warriors can do just as well against owl in "the game who cries wolf."

    # 41 mo808, yeh. Oregon-Trojans should be fighty fight like Takata vs. Kaneshiro on Island Insights earlier this week.


  70. kev-1:

    That site has had the games listed all season but have never actually shown it.


  71. kev-1:

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  72. kev-1:

    Go Manti!


  73. PolyMom:

    NBC folks it's MANTI time!


  74. WarriorNY:

    Mr. Grease,
    How's your morning going?


  75. Chicken Grease:

    iwonderwhytheyhateme:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 am

    May Buddha have mercy on us today in Fresno.

    Would this not contradict Dukkha?


  76. WarriorNY:

    Let's go Manti!


  77. Chicken Grease:

    WarriorNY:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Mr. Grease,
    How's your morning going?

    Quite well, thanks for asking. You folks down East doing a bit better?

    Don't forget to get your free 10 gallons of gasoline (per person?) courtesy of your friendly neighborhood Cuomo. :D

    Can we assume . . . that a lot of New York IS still operational? i.e., mostly Jersey side got the brunt?

    Didn't manage to watch that NBC concert last night. Would've liked to have watched Sting perform.


  78. Capitolist/WassupDoc:

    Get ready for some serious wins by our two basketball and the softball teams. Won't have a heads-up on the baseball and men's volleyball teams until mid-December, but let's make sure that we are in the two Stadiums and The Stan when all of these five teams play in Manoa.

    We'll also be in our seats at the final three home football games (maybe four) at Aloha Stadium.

    Ran into the father of a Warrior football player at a political event Thursday evening. The dad provided some major insights into how the team is reacting to the mutliple issues the Department of Athletics, the Board of Regents, the major boosters, the Manoa and the System administrations face. As a parent, he supports his son emotionally, intellectually, and financially, but he is not going to get involved in addressing what needs to be done unless & until his son requests that Dad take his powerful advocacy skills to make things better for the team, the staff, the faculty, the administrations, fans like the Tsai-kos, and the general public.

    BTW - he agreed with my position that the Legislature and the Abercrombie Administration will not be addressing the semi-autonomous status of the University of Hawai`i in the upcoming legislative session unless things get worse over the next few months.


  79. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #75,

    There are many contradictions in Buddhism. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form.


  80. WarriorNY:

    Haha... 10 free gallons of gas isn't worth the 5 hours of waiting in line... I wish I could show you the lines for gas in NY... I'd say one line for gas was at least 2 miles long. Cops are making sure people don't jump the line... It's crazy. I actually drove up to CT to fill up gas.

    NYC is functioning but lower manhattan is still flooded... Subways aren't running with full functionality.. But we're doing much better than NJ.


  81. markazulu:

    I hope Our Defense is gonna play as well as they did in that 2nd half last week. I hope our Offense comes out clicking. But for me I think beating Fresno St would salvage this season for me!

    Go Warriors


  82. Ao no ho'i:

    #4, you can't see them, but the roughly 25 scholys are in Norm's little house in the top photo. But right, not Bright.


  83. Kekoa:

    WarriorNY ~
    Hope you are doing ok my friend.

    I had this crazy notion that might not be a bad idea. What if the big insurance companies each chartered a cruise ship? For those homeowners who needed temp shelter, and meals for their family, this would be a quick fix until folks got on their feet.


  84. kawika49:

    I going watch this game. I would like to see some Chow Fun, for a change.


  85. kawika49:

    Eh kekoa
    tired watching mattatbi sanin yakuza.


  86. HiFlyer:

    kawika49

    no be disappointed when only see dim sum.


  87. WarriorNY:

    Kekoa,
    Thanks... Im good. There's a lot of people much worse off...

    That's a great idea about the cruise ship. Especially since we got another storm (not nearly as bad but still) coming in this week. NYC does have a lot of shelters up for a lot of those people who are out of their homes.


  88. kawika49:

    #86
    Every once in a while, kukai happens.


  89. Ao no ho'i:

    Read on the plane the other day and thought some fans would enjoy to kill a little time before the game.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/10/29/bob-stitt-fly-sweep-colorado-school-of-mines-college-football-offense/1659819/

    If link doesn't work google Bob Stitt, School of Mines.


  90. Capitolist/WassupDoc:

    Forgot to mention the Wahine volleyball team in my earlier post. Glad to see Jane playing Thursday night. The number of fans was about half the usual attendees.
    Please show up tonight.

    UH has submitted a request to host the first two rounds of the 2012 NCAA tournament November 29 - December 2. I assume the decision will be made within the next two weeks.

    NOTE: Several of the volleyball players were at The Stan last night checking out the men's basketball team.


  91. SteveM:

    A cruise ship is the ultimate, self-sufficient hotel. But I think she is vulnerable tied up in port. The behemoth ships today are much safer out at sea, where she can outrun and out distance storms.

    I think a medium size cruise ship was used as a shelter/hotel in the New Orleans disaster...but weeks after the weather passed. Was it for the relief personnel?


  92. Kekoa:

    Kawika ~ I'm being 'escorted' to a family function at noon today. It might be good thing because I'm feeling so Fresno today.


  93. gigihawaii:

    Namaste from India, folks. It is 2:30 Nov 4 here in New Delhi. Beautiful place.

    GOOD LUCK TO OUR DEAR WARRIORS!!!


  94. PolyMom:

    Regarding Cruise Ships. Just this year when St. Marys had a mold problem at their dorms they moved the kids and they lived on a cruise ship. Just this year I think.

    Best TV shows forgot to include the HBO show Girls. Forgot that one.


  95. Kekoa:

    WNY ~ I saw some of those shelters on TV. I'd opt for the cruise ship.


  96. Chicken Grease:

    Enable the "f" food!

    Heard dim sum already . . . a Grease got:

    • Spicy ahi

    • Porterhouses (because haven't had that for a while)

    Trimmings steamed rice, etc. What YOU got, fair Tsaiko, Tsaikette?

    Irish a bit behind, 3rd quarter.

    Notre Dame HAS lost to Pitt at times when they shouldn't have, no? In the past?


  97. Chicken Grease:

    Oops! Sorry, sorry. Still first half w/Irish-Pitt game.


  98. cocobean:

    Fresno is going to score Chow has to be able to answer. Wish he could find a way to get more weapons on the field. I'd like to see a package with Isosefa, Gregory and Lister. Sometimes I think I'd rather see Lister or Iosefa lined up as an H back than to have a true TE in there.

    Not expecting a win but sure am wishing and hoping.

    Norm get creative.


  99. Chicken Grease:

    Kekoa:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 am

    WNY ~ I saw some of those shelters on TV. I'd opt for the cruise ship.

    Fukushima folks are still in those port-a-shelters.

    Let's hope East coasters' international reputation for being verbal allows them less time in ANY kind of shelter. Lead the New Jersians, WarriorNY :) .


  100. Chicken Grease:

    * * * YOU OCEANIC DIGITAL SUBSCRIBERS CHECK CHANNEL 218 (TWCSN) . . . CLICK ON YOUR OFFICIAL OCEANIC DIGITAL REMOTE . . . SCROLL TO THE RIGHT . . . * * *

    Most probably a fluke, but, the ribbon the bottom's showing, at 1pm on this channel:

    [NR] New. Hawaii at Fresno State (Football) Live. 3 hour

    !

    Right now, New Mex' vs. UNLV (see a pattern? MWC) game going on.

    Feel like calling Oceanic to confirm . . . but . . . see previous days' complaing of a Grease in calling Oceanic.

    Anyway. Ordered the game already. Will FUME if game shows for free on this channel.


  101. PolyMom:

    Chicken Grease

    You know why ND is losing? So many of their DUMB fans are cheering for USC today. See they think if they win out ND would go to BCS NC game. Never going to happen. The best they would get is the Sugar Bowl. So lots of their DUMB fans want Oregon to lose, USC to win thinking they'll get to the NC game. Never going to happen? So thus creating bad football juju. Football juju is very important. ND looks sloppy today.


  102. Chicken Grease:

    Ah, sugoi!!!!! A Grease kyoo wa hyaku desu!!!!!


  103. Chicken Grease:

    Ahhhhha ahahaa, I hear ya' Polymom! ND better not slack, else penalize 'em like those Chinese and S. Korean female badminton players throwing games on purpose this past 'lympics!!!!! :)


  104. SAWARRIOR:

    75-10 FSU

    tw cable has the game on ch 273 for $16.99


  105. Chicken Grease:

    Starting to look like ND coming 'loha Bowl . . . again.

    I'll (and Toma'll) be home for Christmaaaaaaaas . . .
    - what Manti might end up singing


  106. RedZone:

    Pitt kicking Notre Dames butt so far.


  107. madeinhawaii:

    If ND doesn't get a TD on this possession...


  108. HiFlyer:

    Turnovers hurting ND today.


  109. Chicken Grease:

    Nice 1st down conversion on 4th and 1, Irish!


  110. Chicken Grease:

    Woah. Irish need to challenge the fumble, Mosely-Smith knees down a'eady!


  111. PolyMom:

    And they miss the extra point. Geez these are the things that are so important. Now they need 2 scores. ND not good on 2 point conversions.


  112. madeinhawaii:

    Bad break for ND... intercepted at the goal line.... too predicatable a play.


  113. cee808:

    On Oceanic, TWCHD (1218) has the UH game for free in HD.

    "New. Hawaii and Fresno State." ... hope the "NEW" points to change on the scoring front too. Go Warriors. And what ever happened to the welfare fraud allegations against Fresno State football (or maybe I just haven't been paying attention)?


  114. madeinhawaii:

    Whoa.. big play coming up for ND.... 18-20... they need 2 pts here.


  115. madeinhawaii:

    Whootah! .. TIED!


  116. madeinhawaii:

    whaddayaknow? I got the Fresno game on Channel 23.


  117. AlaWai:

    Aloha Chicken Grease: Mahalo for the research. TWCSN 218 Game On!


  118. Chicken Grease:

    See above, a Grease's post # 100.

    Oceanic digital subscribers whose package includes digital channel 218 (TWCSN), we are gettin' this game for FREE.

    The WARRIOR vs. The BULLDOG LIVE AND AVAILABLE ON digital channel 218.


  119. SAWARRIOR:

    104. sry, it's $6.99


  120. Chicken Grease:

    AlaWai:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Aloha Chicken Grease: Mahalo for the research. TWCSN 218 Game On!

    Indeed, no problem, AlaWai. Enjoy.

    This is too funny. Showing the OCSportsTV LOGO AND ALL . . . Mainland folk (SolCal) seeing all that? Aahahaha!!! Love it! Gonna get my refund :). Watching the channel 218 anyway.


  121. Chicken Grease:

    Oh, wait!!!! A Grease shows he DIDN"T pay for this PPV UH vs. Fresno!!!!

    A day of miracles!!!!! :)


  122. Chicken Grease:

    Mercy, stress!!!!! Switching between The Warrior vs. The Bulldog and Irish-Pitt overtime!!!!


  123. 3-Prong:

    Patience is one thing but......


  124. brad:

    Not sure why you're switching channels, just stay on ND-Pitt game, not missing much on other channel!


  125. brad:

    Unless you've got money on UH game???


  126. markazulu:

    Oh my goodness this game is going just how this season is going.


  127. brad:

    What's the chances of seeing Graves today?


  128. Chicken Grease:

    Oh, no. Irish. Need Leprechaun glue.

    Welcome to the Jungle.


  129. MattyBoy:

    Is Chow being an idiot on purpose? What's wrong with him? Why is he not making any adjustments?


  130. markazulu:

    Good news from this game they are stopping the run game but the passing game is another thing. Our Offense has been playing as it has been this whole season NO RHYTHM!


  131. brad:

    It's a thing called EGO


  132. cee808:

    Well, on the positive side, the defense will get 2+ years of game experience this season.


  133. Chicken Grease:

    God is in the Irish stands.


  134. 3-Prong:

    Picture In Picture is da bomb. Go Warriors and Manti!


  135. markazulu:

    The Chances of seeing david Graves is 0-5% chance because Chow has CLEARLY stated no matter what Sean Schroder will be the started start to finish UNLESS he gets hurt which is sad this offense needs a SPARK and David Graves could lite it but we will never know. Schroder is taking a beating this season and he could get really hurt if this keeps happening.


  136. 3-Prong:

    OK ND up to you now.


  137. markazulu:

    And look now there is technical difficulties! :)


  138. brad:

    is that why gametracker is stuck too, been stuck for 10 minutes!


  139. Matt:

    ND wins.


  140. Chicken Grease:

    Irish wins!


  141. 3-Prong:

    Wow what a game!


  142. brad:

    The betting line for the Boise State game won't be pretty :(


  143. Chicken Grease:

    # 139 beats a Grease!

    Wait!!! Confirming the TD!!!!


  144. Matt:

    It's a TD


  145. markazulu:

    When Chow said our offense would be boring compared to years past i didnt no he meant unaffective.


  146. Chicken Grease:

    TD confirmed!!!! ND wins!!! 3 OTs!


  147. madeinhawaii:

    At least we are consistent!


  148. WarriorNY:

    Wow... Oregon is running it up on USC... 21-3...


  149. 3-Prong:

    SC Oregon heating up.


  150. Matt:

    Comcast Sports Net on the mainland is showing the UH broadcast of the game. Good hearing Kanoa.


  151. 3-Prong:

    Great day of college football action.


  152. markazulu:

    @140 I know it kind've disheartens me Graves was a great player and i honestly think he deserved better but its so irritiating how we are getting BLOWN OUT from every single team we play i wouldnt even mind a losing season if we actually had closer games.

    This game we have only 33 yards and we lead in time of possesion Fresno has 19 plays for 180 yards


  153. 3-Prong:

    Depressing.


  154. Matt:

    Fresno scores again.


  155. brad:

    FSU will cover spread at halftime :(


  156. Chicken Grease:

    Matt:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Comcast Sports Net on the mainland is showing the UH broadcast of the game. Good hearing Kanoa.

    Where are you on the Mainland, Matt?


  157. Matt:

    Northern California.


  158. Chicken Grease:

    Uh, 156, 125?


  159. markazulu:

    its still early though i hope there is a comeback


  160. MattyBoy:

    To the people who really believe Chow needs a couple of years to progress, you're seriously out of touch with reality. Chow is driving Uh football to the ground.


  161. MattyBoy:

    This is the worst football team since Von Appen..


  162. Chicken Grease:

    Matt:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Northern California.

    Great, great San Diego, San Jose side!!!!


  163. obachan:

    #140 anyone know why the "blacklist" - why can't a dedicated player who puts in the time/effort to practice not be allowed to suit up for the games?


  164. SAWARRIOR:

    161. our DC is a big problem too, i tried to tell folks. da bugga's D-philosophy and schemes are off. you eva wonda why we have so much arm tackling? cuz assignment/alignment, da players are out of position, das just one of his problem, and its not the players fault--deh playing hard.


  165. madeinhawaii:

    I'm kind of glad Oceanic blacked out the game. I'd be even more depressed.


  166. Matt:

    49 yd FG by Hadden.


  167. Chicken Grease:

    MattyBoy:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    To the people who really believe Chow needs a couple of years to progress, you're seriously out of touch with reality. Chow is driving Uh football to the ground.

    He deserves to get through his first season as first time head coach.


  168. 3-Prong:

    Yeah points!!!!!!


  169. SAWARRIOR:

    162. von appen's teams for the most part were competitive. chow's teams get blown-out.


  170. SAWARRIOR:

    too many great games on at the same time. Oregon V USC, LSU V 'Bama, SMU V UCF


  171. SAWARRIOR:

    Oregon's offense is crazy, TD again. lol 34-17


  172. puhi:

    Aloha kakou,

    Let's see, I could spend $65 to watch my team get lickings or I can watch all kinds of other games for FREE!!! It costs more to watch a mainland game on TV than it costs to actually go to the game!

    Now If I was a 16 year old recruit, what games am I watching? Not the UH games. Oh, except for the Lamar game, the recruit can watch that gem 30-50 times if he wants to.

    So what school will he end up going to? Iʻve seen more Notre Dame, USC and Stanford games than Iʻve seen UH games. And I havenʻt missed a home game for 20 years!

    Go figure.

    Thanks for the whine session.

    kden, Puhi


  173. madeinhawaii:

    I'm going to go vote...


  174. markazulu:

    damn Oregon is killing USC right now by the way it looks i think Oregon could possibly score 100 points ;)


  175. BowNatic:

    Wasn't there supposed to be a football game on today?


  176. Matt:

    Trevor Davis injured. Wearing a neck brace.


  177. SAWARRIOR:

    34-24 oregon, USC just scored


  178. SAWARRIOR:

    35-3 FSU, 3 min to go in 1st half


  179. markazulu:

    I love the decisions Chow has made off the field except taking the names off the jersey. But On the field this season has been tough to watch i guess its karma for me because i laughed at when Detroit went 0-18 and miami went 1-17 but ill give Chow 2 years if they arent at the very least COMPETITIVE Losing seasons happen i expected that this year but i DIDNT EXPECT them to be blown out EVERY GAME thats not the players fault thats COACHING Errors i know players are the ones out there but if we are getting blown out every game i think it clearly is Coaching Error. I dont wanna say ive given up on Chow but for this season ive been deflated ill keep cheering for our boys and hoping we win but this season has just been so disheartening.


  180. SAWARRIOR:

    USC game is all offense V offense lol fun game


  181. SAWARRIOR:

    chow deserves what he gets for being so stubborn. i passed on the $6.99 PPV for this game, no sense in watching chow do the same thing no matter what the score.


  182. Matt:

    42-3 Fresno. Yikes.


  183. WarriorNY:

    Alright... This is really depressing... I need a drink...


  184. wth:

    When the announcers are asking WHY??? AND We only have 92 yards of offense in the 1st half :(


  185. SAWARRIOR:

    chow doesn't use the offensive talent he has to the max. the DC.... well, he is what he is.


  186. obachan:

    I know UH players keep competing and don't give up but watching Oregon's offense and Hawaii's is like watching a bullet train compared to a hand car.


  187. 3-Prong:

    Anybody else out dea use the ESPN Score Center App. Set favorite teams and get notifications any time your team(s) play. Frequency depends on your settings. As dey say on Maui "Some Good!"


  188. 3-Prong:

    187 Grandma "Good Analogy". Hehe


  189. SAWARRIOR:

    put a running QB in there, at least he will pick-up 1st downs once in awhile. it will give the O another dimension that we sorely lack.

    our opponent's DC has an easy job scheming against our O. put eight in da box, pin their ears back and come after our QB is all they have to do.


  190. SAWARRIOR:

    21-10 UCF over SMU in da 3rd


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  192. SAWARRIOR:

    188. 3-prong, howzit! yes i use that app, but have to turn off scoring notification for each score. when UH plays, it constantly going off, if u know what i mean. lol


  193. Chicken Grease:

    Uh. Where's kev-1? Heh.

    Keep on being a fan, GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!


  194. SAWARRIOR:

    for those watching UH, is our DC still using man-press?


  195. PurpleMaple:

    I turned off the radio to watch the USC-Oregon game. And wait for Wahine volleyball at 7.


  196. graham:

    Get a new QB. Chow's arrogence is killing this team. He was 3rd string at Duke who sucks


  197. manoa#1:

    Long bus ride back to LAX for da warriors.


  198. Bleed Green and White:

    Wow - this is draining to watch!

    (179 SAWARRIOR)

    I feel your pain, but did you really type that von Appen's teams were competitive...?
    Dang, they lost 18 games in a row...!!!


  199. JV:

    Chow should retire!


  200. Wassup:

    Wow. Blown out every week. I'm eating my shoe for grumbling about Mack and his staff last year. This really sucks.


  201. BowNatic:

    If Hawaii keeps hiring proven failures from the past, and does nothing to infuse any sort of new thinking into the program, this travesty will continue unabated for years. Anyone with talent from Hawaii, Samoa, or the West Coast will sign with any other team then Hawaii.

    You have to spend the money to earn the money.


  202. WWF:

    Former Interim HC Rich Miano with offensive coordinator Nick Rolovich with defensive coordinator Dave Aranda
    sounds like a dream team right now . . .


  203. SAWARRIOR:

    199. hi BGW, yes...competitive, LOL.... as in the score was closer and not a complete blow-out with no hope. that's all i meant. lol

    hey, that USC Oregon game is one for the ages, all offense.


  204. GA Warrior:

    And you didnt think it could get any worse......Chow has to be the only coach who would not make a qb change, it doesnt matter if he thinks they aren't as good, what could it hurt? Pathetic....


  205. Bleed Green and White:

    Oregon / USC rocks...!


  206. Matt:

    Fresno coach already putting in the backups at start of 3rd quarter.


  207. Warrior in Georgia:

    Wait, doesn't Fresno State have a new coach and offensive system??? How dare he actually coach and succeed with another coaches players. According to some of you football genuises, that can't happen because our great coach isn't succeeding with his new team. We are the laughingstock of college football thanks to coach chow. Hey, pass the Kool-Aid!!!!!


  208. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Fresno shows mercy by starting benching Carr to start the 2nd half.


  209. Chicken Grease:

    Jesus was also judged harshly.


  210. GA Warrior:

    Do NOT even compare Norm Chow with Jesus...


  211. WWF:

    #199 What's your point? We lost 5 in a row, today is sixth, next week is seventh . . .


  212. Chicken Grease:

    wonderwhytheyhateme:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Fresno shows mercy by starting benching Carr to start the 2nd half.

    Fresno (vs. Buddha) ended up showing mercy, ehy, iwonderwhy'? Heh.


  213. SAWARRIOR:

    203. WWF...... you got that right, we would of had continuity in the program too, but, sadly i have to say i was not a miano fan for HC.i kick myself now.


  214. Chicken Grease:

    GA Warrior:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Do NOT even compare Norm Chow with Jesus...

    Jesus did not purport to be better than any fellow man.


  215. SAWARRIOR:

    209.. that just shows how little respect FSU coaches have for chow and our DC. pitiful.


  216. 3-Prong:

    What if Shroeder can't come back? Does our #2 give us less of a chance than an injured Shroeder?


  217. GA Warrior:

    agree #216, to start the second half with your backups is already conceding that Hawaii will not even be a threat to come back. Sad, our players deserve better than this....


  218. Whats up:

    Im at another Warriors game in person, not to many Hawaii fans here at Fresno State. But Chow has to put in David Graves already. SS is not cutting it! The defense has been on the field all game, they need help.


  219. Chicken Grease:

    3-Prong:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    What if Shroeder can't come back? Does our #2 give us less of a chance than an injured Shroeder?

    Respectfully 3-Prong -- as a Grease is with all of his counter-arguments -- this is a bit uncharitable. Do we start applying for jobs of those we see in the obituaries?


  220. SAWARRIOR:

    217. if shroeder cant come back, chow will forfeit.


  221. SAWARRIOR:

    219. david graves has been shelved.


  222. Slugger:

    Prayers for our hurt Warriors.

    I'm listening to the game on the rayjio. Sad for the team.


  223. SAWARRIOR:

    45-3 FSU 3rd quater.


  224. 3-Prong:

    No Comment.


  225. cee808:

    Pick on UH ... oh, well.


  226. SAWARRIOR:

    oh, thanks slugger, i forgot about internet radio for UH games.


  227. JV:

    Terrible quarterback, awful head coach. Poor UH.


  228. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    How is it possible that our other QBs are THAT bad to be considered.


  229. WarriorNY:

    Marquis Lee is ridiculous... This Oregon/USC game is so much fun to watch...

    UH game is painful to listen to...


  230. 3-Prong:

    No comment again.


  231. SAWARRIOR:

    fumble, FSU ball.


  232. SAWARRIOR:

    another UH playa hurt, lineman


  233. Old Diver:

    This is a tragedy. No other way to explain it.


  234. SAWARRIOR:

    45-3, FSU with ball on our 1


  235. SAWARRIOR:

    FSU takes out their starter at halftime, what a joke. nice job chow, you hard-headed bugga.


  236. JV:

    stop hiring OLD coaches UH!!!


  237. Slugger:

    I'm listening on AM 1420 in Honolulu...

    Guess I'll walk to the Softball game & take my little radio. Hope Coach puts another QB in.


  238. 3-Prong:

    220 Grease: no hidden message on my part. Coach said there was a drop off on #2. Just questioning if the space between the two disappears when #1 is injured.


  239. longdistance808:

    McMackin must be laughin' his a$$ off at UH admin and fans but very sad for his former players. Wonder if Rolo can be hired by next weekend to take over.


  240. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    CAYMAN SHUTTER IN!!!!


  241. JV:

    Mcmakin laughing?? He sucked too.


  242. puhi:

    Hand Off, Hand Off, Hand Off!!!!

    I want a coach who wants to win the game even when weʻre losing bad. Not just run out the clock to end it.

    Frick, letʻs just run out the clock to end the season then!!

    June Jones! E ho'i mai!!!!


  243. Chicken Grease:

    # 240, 3-Prong. A Grease knows what you are saying, 3-Prong. A Grease didn't think you had any hidden message. :D


  244. SAWARRIOR:

    something is wrong with the website. weird stuff happening


  245. SAWARRIOR:

    chow should run the pistol as his bread n butter offense with shutter as QB. screw that 2 back set as his base.


  246. SAWARRIOR:

    higgins is in now


  247. Matt:

    Higgins now in.


  248. subdued:

    #219, 222 and 223. He's been shelved like many others!


  249. 3-Prong:

    Spark from Higgins. Das how!


  250. AlaWai:

    2nd Stringers in against shock troops. Higgins looks the best so far. Dr. Chow giving in to fans. Will see how it translates to reps at practice and in future games.


  251. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    Go Higgins!


  252. Matt:

    Higgins looking pretty decent. Throws a decent ball.


  253. Matt:

    TD Higgins


  254. 3-Prong:

    Against da subs but ereting clickin! TD!!


  255. SAWARRIOR:

    higgins looking good so far, td


  256. somedude:

    Higgins!!!!


  257. SAWARRIOR:

    at least higgins can run.


  258. wth:

    $500 Donation from McDonalds!! Woohoo. Thank you Warriors!


  259. Matt:

    He might be playing against the reserve defense, but he's playing with reserve WRs too.


  260. WarriorNY:

    Has Darius Bright been in the whole game? Why isn't he targeted more?


  261. 3-Prong:

    Quick release. Spins da ball pretty good.


  262. manoa#1:

    chow is an IDIOT.


  263. Matt:

    Come on D. Get the ball back so we can see if the offense can drive it again.


  264. 702WarriorFan:

    Hey I thought Chow didn't bring any extra QBs, thats why he only played SS. We had 2(Shutter & Higgins) QBs sitting on the bench?


  265. Warrior in Georgia:

    Yea a td against Fresno State's 3rd and 4th team walk-ons. Cue Kool and the Gang!!!!


  266. wth:

    The $500 Donation from McDonalds to UH is because we scored a TD, per the radio announcers. :)


  267. markazulu:

    Jeremy Higgins 4 starter!!!!!!!


  268. WarriorNY:

    It seems like Shutter didn't really get a shot to prove what he can do... He just handed the ball off every time...


  269. markazulu:

    I hope Higgins gets more reps darn it. This offense NEEDS a Spark and he might do it


  270. SAWARRIOR:

    yup, u never know what you have unless you give them a chance to play when the lights are on. higgins td was against back-ups but so what. higgins showed another dimension for our O in running the football in.

    that is all some of us called for was to give another QB a shot when the game got out of hand and see what u have.

    some posters here will have to eat some crow. and you know who you are.


  271. Manoa:

    Sad to see Chow get his first chance as a head coach, and this happens to him.

    He has made a lot of money and is set for life. I think he could fight on and maybe improve things a little next year. But he should do himself a favor and retire at the end of the season. Hire an interim coach. Then look again for a coach.


  272. SAWARRIOR:

    45-10. would have been closer to 75-10 is FSU didnt pull their starters at the half.


  273. SAWARRIOR:

    chow did it to himself, hard-headed bugga.


  274. Bugaz:

    Best of luck next week. I will be there to support our Warriors


  275. markazulu:

    If I hear Norm Chow in the post game saying "No doubt about it Sean Schroder is my QB" im gonna be upset! hahaha at least make it seem like your WILLING to look at your other options. Higgins despite playing against reserves lead your team to a quick score he was efficent, Give Shutter more look Schroder is tough ill give him that he takes a lickin but im afraid for his health and i dont see a spark when he is out there we NEED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW What better time to do it than when Boise Comes down.


  276. SAWARRIOR:

    55-45 oregon, 4min to play Oregon ball


  277. Bugaz:

    The worst part of it is that, I am not so confident that Schroeder could have scored the touchdown if he stayed in.


  278. SAWARRIOR:

    mobile QBs give the offense another dimension the opposing DC has to account for. the offensive guru is a joke for not giving his team a chance to be competitive.


  279. Bugaz:

    Lack of faith, but who ever is in, see ya at the Aloha


  280. AlaWai:

    Watched Texas A&M and now Oregon. Traditional Offenses and Defenses cannot keep up with Speed. Only superior strength and skill teams like Bama and LSU can stall them. Power football may be tried and true but Speed Kills. BTW, Oregon white unis are futuristic like Apple vs old school IBM.


  281. SAWARRIOR:

    62-45 oregon


  282. markazulu:

    Schroder is a tough guy but if he keeps getting hit like this im afraid we might get a Greg Alexander situation on us again were he has to go outta there comfort zone and gets wacked crazy an get hurt. I wouldnt mind seeing someone more mobile especially since we have a young o line. Higgins gives us that extra dimension and i feel shutter does to schroder i think has tunnel vision and seems to lock on a reciever i really feel bad for the kid i know hes trying hard but if its not working on the field as i said we need a spark and i think a switch at qb.


  283. Chicken Grease:

    Chow deserves to complete his first season.


  284. SAWARRIOR:

    chow deserves a slap in da head to wake him up. ;-)


  285. SAWARRIOR:

    lsu making there comeback


  286. westwind:

    IMO, Coach Chow would have considered B Moniz, I Funake, T Graunke, and C Brennan as unacceptable as quarterbacks. But, the proof is that they could make plays. They could win games. As a UH grad, a longtime season ticket holder, PPV subscriber and supporter of UH Athletics I am quite frustrated with the coaching. "SS is our best chance for being successful." SS got pounded by the Fresno Bulldogs all through the first half. Finally, into the third quarter with SS nursing a sore shoulder/arm, he's finally replaced by C Schutter and then J Higgins. It is Higgins who finally scores (against the second team defense). Wasn't he another quarterback who didn't measure up.


  287. madeinhawaii:

    Thank god Fresno called off the Dogs in the second half. I thought after having been beaten in their own house for three straight seasons they would keep pouring it on. Then I remembered, they have a 1st year coach... what does he know, eh? Phew... !


  288. tommui:

    #288 westwind. SS may be our best QB - but sometimes it is better to be lucky than be good.

    And maybe Matt Barkley should have gone to the NFL last year when his stock was high!


  289. madeinhawaii:

    Higgins completed 4 out of 5 passes... What happened? Did the receivers suddenly run the right patterns and get open? Or was it because Fresno was simply playing their third stringers?


  290. JV:

    I wish UH hired Fresno's coach instead of Chow :(
    Cant believe we are stuck with a has been over the hill old coach.


  291. westwind:

    SS does not make reads. He tends to focus on one receiver thereby negating a possible open one. He throws into coverage. And if the receiver is open overthrows him. And then if he threads the needle, the receiver drops/misses the ball. There doesn't appear to be any chemistry.


  292. SAWARRIOR:

    291. fresneck had 2-3rd stringers in according to da radio guys, but they did say higgins passes came out on time and were on the mark. that's good enough for me. lol


  293. jonj:

    All i gotta say is you can see how the team feels about SS when no one talks to him and you can also see the disconnect when no one on the sidelines are talking with Chow! not even his assistants. theres an obvious disconnect and they dont wanna play for those 2. its not necessarily SS fault that chows favoring him so hard. But chow is doing him a injustice. The players obviously backed the other 2 (shutter n higgins) its ashame chow didnt really give shutter a chance, but you could see the quicker release and ability to avoid the rush. Yeah maybe it was against the 2nd n 3rd team, but SS in the 3rd went up against the same guys and when they threw in the other 2 guys he also put in the rest of the 2nd team. there for it was 2nd n 3rds vs 2nd n 3rds!


  294. cocobean:

    Didn't see or hear the game. What happened?

    Really thought Chow would get creative to give his team a chance to score. He should know by now that what he's been trying to do isn't working. He's tried the pro set, shotgun, four wide, five wide and no huddle but all with the underlying theme of trying to move the ball in small increments and controling the clock. This team has shown that a missed block, dropped pass or a penalty is all it takes to stymie any type of sustained drive. And that's not even taking into account how formidible the opposing defense is.

    Even Dick Tomey recognized years ago that the game is changing. When he was a commentor in JJ's early years he did say that now offenses need to get yards in "chunks." That's the first time I heard anyone use the term getting yards in chunks and this was from Dick "run the ball and give yourself a chance to win it in the 4th" Tomey.

    Look at Tomey's tenure at San Jose. With the talent he had he got very "creative" with his O. Remember the last time he played here? The SJSU O was nothing like a Tomey type O. SJSU was talent deficient but still gave us a good scare.

    Coach Chow I'm not asking you to change personell or scrap what you belive in. Just get out of your comfort zone and get more creative. We need points we need to yards in "chunks." We got to get competitive.


  295. kawika49:

    'Sheesh, let's get over this season already.


  296. madeinhawaii:

    kawika49

    Are you kidding? The way our Warriors are playing, they need all the practice they can get!


  297. madeinhawaii:

    The includes the coaches!


  298. cocobean:

    BTW. I know most people believe we don't have the right type of athletes to play his system. Most are willing to give Chow 2-3 years more to get "his" tyoe of players. So am I.

    BUT. Most of the type of athletes that Coach needs to run his O are playing in the SEC. Coach go through your volumes of playbooks and find plays that fit the athletes you are likely to get rather than the type of athletes you hope to get.


  299. westwind:

    I for one don't buy the idea that the cupboard was left empty by Coach Mac. I think alot of us have more respect for the talents of our young men than Coach Chow. Example, when in recent memory have our coaches told our players not to suit up for a game. If you practice all week, you suit for the game. If thiis is BCS, bigboy football, I don't want it. Additionally, playing Iz's "Country Home", don't make what is being done acceptable. In other words, talk Ohana and yet act mainland cutthroat.


  300. PeteJek:

    Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic every single week.

    )-:


  301. SAWARRIOR:

    296. cocobean. at the half it was 42-3. FSU pulled their starters at the half. shutter replaced SS for 1 series and then Higgins replaced shutter and scored for us against FSU's 2-3rd stringers. the game ended 45-10


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  303. SAWARRIOR:

    300. an offensive guru would adjust the system to the players strength. you can't wait 2-3 years to win, this is D1 football. this is where chow is messing up IMO.


  304. cocobean:

    42-3 at the half? I guess we were over matched from the beginning. I knew we would give up points but was hoping we could keep within two possessions going into the half.

    To be down by 6 possessions going into the locker room must have been deflating to the coaches and players. Not even close to a moral victory to win the second half 7-3.


  305. SAWARRIOR:

    306. FSU was playing guys not even on the depth chart according to the radio guys. pretty pathetic.

    being spanked that bad is being out-coached.


  306. WarriorNY:

    Am I just delirious or did I hear one of the guys on the radio on that post game show just say Shroeder reminds him a bit of Eli Manning? (when they were talking about offenses) Sorry I actually like Shroeder and think if he had some time, he'd perform much better... But comparing the guy to Eli Manning. The most clutch player in the NFL... SMH...

    The guy also said the NY Giants (and Packers) run a precision offense like the West Coast Offense when really the Giants actually run an offense that's more like the run n shoot than anything. They just pound it to establish the run with a TE and lining up under center. But in their passing game, receiver routes are similar to the R&S. Thanks in large part to Kevin Gilbride... I still wonder what would have happened in 2008, if the Giants didn't go on their Super Bowl run if Kevin Gilbride would've be our head coach...


  307. Not an Expert:

    This path has cometh because of our leaders. Why? When a coach takes a football team to a BCS bowl that should of been a stepping stone for greater things to happen. Leaders whoever they are or were messed up not securing Jones. Jones feeling no support of what he had accomplished does not give a hoot anymore. He is looking to moving on. Thus he let his team have a great time at the Sugar Bowl and had no desire in showing well or winning the game. He felt let down and so he himself did the same to his team. His statement to the team about you guys are already winners and the game is like a bonus. (Something to that nature) He knew that the potential to parlay the success was no where to be found. Don't blame him to looking out for himself after that. Sad in a way that many players in my opinion lost some respect for him.

    Fast forward that is why we are where we are for UH football. We have gone backwards since 2007 when we should of been moving on up. Lame and now we are fighting another uphill climb and are being left behind the college football landscape.

    Thus it is not our coaches that are to blame but our leaders who had and have no vision or desire to have UH be a top notch division one team.


  308. Chicken Grease:

    cocobean:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    BTW. I know most people believe we don't have the right type of athletes to play his system. Most are willing to give Chow 2-3 years more to get "his" tyoe of players. So am I.

    A Grease is with cocobean here. Bravo. Well said.

    You '80s people . . . remember what Frankie said: relax don't do it / when you wanna get to it / RELAX / don't do it / when you wanna . . . [emphasis mine.]

    Chow knows the stakes; and he deserves his first season.

    # # #.


  309. Ao no ho'i:

    Here's the box score from last year's Hawaii, Fresno State game. We lost by 3. The difference is not the players. It's not really "the system." It's Chow. No Moniz in that game, only David Graves enterinig in second quarter and bringing the team back. Kid demoted to WR scout team only and scored 5 touchdowns against the #1 D this week in one practice. Team leader, good grades, graduating early. So why is that Chow and asst coaches top priority with Graves is trying to get him to quit? There is mining for scholarships, which is a shame, and then there is outright stupidity.
    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313230062


  310. Not an Expert:

    I mentioned many years back that if UH is going to be successful they need leaders who has the vision and the commitment to support the program to become a top notch division one team. They have received exactly what they wanted, for the results today is exactly what their unspoken intent is.


  311. Not an Expert:

    Ranting and raving about players and coaches will continue and may get worse until the day the commitment comes from the top and money and facilities are invested into the program.


  312. WarriorNY:

    Coach Chow is doing what he can with the players he has. It's just a really hard year but people need to look forward... I really think Coach Chow will get the players he needs to run his system... Coach Demerest will open up a recruiting pipeline to places we've never had a shot... (Florida--Phillips and Jackson are prime examples)

    My only issue this year is Kaumeyer... I don't know if it's because of the injuries or what but I thought our defense would be good this year... I don't know why we can't stop anyone...


  313. WarriorNY:

    Ao no ho'i,
    Fresno is a much better team this year running a much more explosive offense... Their defense is much better as well...

    We all like Graves and feel really bad for what has happened to him but unfortunately he just doesn't fit Coach Chow's system... He was the heir apparent in a system that is no longer at Hawaii...

    Square pegs into round holes... Imagine Graves in Nevada's or Oregon's offense... He'd be great... I think all of us on this blog feel for the kid and hope the best for him...


  314. obachan:

    #314 One of the distinguishing marks of a good coach is that he creates his playbook based on the talents and characteristics of existing players. Don't know if Chow flexed his system enough in his 1st year of being head coach -tried to force to many circles in square pukas.


  315. westwi.d:

    I would like to see Coach Chow win. But, he has to figure this out himself. Hawaii is not USC, BYU, or UTAH. What was in the past is past history. A person/coach cannot be rigid to what exsists in the college environment. And this is not the NFL. Don't make it more difficult than it needs to be. Example, take advantage of your player's talents. Not just the ones you recruited. If you continue to do what youv'e been doing, then there can be no happy ending. People and the media will continue to say give him 2-3 years to get the players he needs to run his system. IMO we'll have a hard time achieving this. So do we continue losing in big embarrassing blowouts? How long can this be sustained? And why would any local young man want to play for UH knowing how some of the athletes are be treated.


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  317. cocobean:

    The defense is broken. The DT rotation is way out of whack and it's affecting other positions on the D line. That's why I feel it's up to the offense to answer scores by the opposition to give us a chance to win it in the end.

    When the D is giving up points and the O not producing the game is basiclly over by half time. Boise has a similar offensive philosophy as us. Establish the run pass off of play action. But Boise has shown to be more creative in thier play calling when creativity is called for.

    BTW. Whoever saw the game. How many running plays did we have out of the gun? Noticing more Pro teams calling running plays out of the gun. We do run a Pro style O , right?


  318. 3-Prong:

    Higgins=Hope. Nice quick release. Spins the ball well and gets it into the hands of the receivers early for better RAC. I know, against 2nd and 3rd stringers and success on just 1 drive but isn't it worth another look coach?


  319. Ao no ho'i:

    Sorry WarriorNY, I know you are a true fan and I agree Graves could excel there, but I don't buy that he couldn't here. Chow got angry with Graves, Higgins, basically all the QBs for checking down to the run in the Spring when the pocket collapsed, which pretty much happened every play because the O line was in miserable shape in the Spring. I think the disconnect was, a checkdown against a run normally makes sense when no one is open, especially against Man D when everyone's back is to you, but Chow wanted to see plays develop. As crazy as it sounds, Chow got so angry with Graves and others that he made some decisions at that point, including a 3 year back up at Duke...

    To say a QB who has the talent to play RNS doesn't fit in pro-style is non sensical. What part doesn't fit? Because he has the talent to run? Crazy. Of course not. Arm strength? Nope. Schroeder lobs it nicely, but unfortunately does it every play. Accuracy? Graves completion percentages last year were higher than Schroeders, more yards per pass, and what did he have, one INT? Most of those passes came from the pocket, when there was one. Plus, RNS a way more complex system than Chows, where a single pass play might have up to 24 options on receiver reads, etc. A RNS QB easily picks up this old school system.

    Sorry to ramble, but SO tired of the "doesn't fit system" argument. Does that mean Higgins doesn't fit the system? Chow is mining for scholarships, and Graves and about 25 others are on that list.


  320. WarriorMojo:

    Post game conference.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sp-Epzzcgs&feature=g-high-u

    For the record, and you can look it up, I was in favor of giving Rolo a shot.


  321. cocobean:

    From what I gather the Dawgs called off the dogs early?

    from what


  322. madeinhawaii:

    WarriorMojo:

    You and me both, but when Rolo wasn't invited, I wanted George Rush because I knew he'd keep Rolo as his OC.


  323. madeinhawaii:

    Actually i wanted to keep the RnS alive and well in Hawaii.


  324. cocobean:

    To run the Pro set the QB should have all the traditional skills QBs had when they started taking snaps from under center. Starts with surveying the D, taking the snap and the proper footwork on the retreat whether it's a running or pass play. Ballhanding - handing it off or faking.

    In JJ's R&S the QB had no check downs and involved very little ball handling duties. Rolo did add a little ball fakes. In both R&S footwork on passes 2-3 steps - pro set 3 - 5 -7 step drops which must be prcticed to precision,

    To Chow's trained eyes he saw Schroeder as possessing the most traditional QB skills. Arm strenght and escapability has little importance in his decision on who starts.


  325. WarriorNY:

    Ao no ho'i,
    I understand your argument and frustrations. I think there's a lot more difficulty than people realize in this new offense like taking snaps under center, play action, or just a complete understanding of his playbook...

    I feel horrible for Graves. But I also feel horrible for Shroeder because he has had an O-Line that's been horrible and receivers that aren't great...


  326. Matt:

    Boise down to SDSU by 2 points with just over 5 minutes left in the game.


  327. WarriorNY:

    Cocobean...
    Thanks for stating your knowledge much better than I can articulate...


  328. madeinhawaii:

    If we are going to excuse Chow because our Oline is horrible... then we should have just kept Coach Mack... we had as many injuries or more to our Oline last season as well and only returned on Offensive starter..


  329. madeinhawaii:

    Or was it two?


  330. WarriorNY:

    MIH,
    I never complained about Coach Mack...


  331. SAWARRIOR:

    321. i agree with you brah.


  332. westwind:

    It would be hard to imagine HAWAII being like a USC or OHIO STATE. THEY and the SEC have an over abundance of talent. On the other hand HAWAII has been rather lucky with the athletes it has recruited. WHAT makes you think all of a sudden your'e going to get a lot of talented athletes that wev'e never had before? You say Demerest has a pipeline to Florida. You don't think our previous coaches had connections? Reality sometime sucks. But it was it is.


  333. Matt:

    SDSU is in victory formation about to beat Boise 21-19.


  334. Ao no ho'i:

    Except for Pollard we have the same receivers as last year. We had O-line issues last year. But no sense going back and forth. Forget QB. Graves is one of many but perhaps the most visible poster child of bad mojo that this staff has inflicted. Graves was on travel team and making plays on special teams two years ago. So, what's different now? From what I hear, he is more than willing to play anywhere, has been a receiver since first week of Aug and has excelled there at practice. So what exactly motivates the coaches to blacklist kids like Graves?


  335. cocobean:

    I feel for Graves. A lot of people feel for Graves. Looks like to Chow he is the Anti-QB.

    Chow was smart to move Graves to another position. He nipped any sentiment to give Graves a shot in the bud. He didn't want a Sanchez/Tebow type situation on his hands.

    But then again he may have outsmarted himself but not fully exploring what he do with Graves.


  336. cocobean:

    should read - what he do with Graves.


  337. WarriorNY:

    westwind,
    Can you name a recruit we had from the East Coast that wasn't a JC transfer?


  338. Ao no ho'i:

    Cocobean, I think when Chow said "We need Graves outside" 4 or 5 weeks ago, he meant outside the bus, outside the plane, outside the stadium.


  339. SAWARRIOR:

    andruw pearman
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  340. SAWARRIOR:

    if chow really needs graves outside, he wouldn't b on the scout team and not suited up for games.


  341. WarriorNY:

    @341,
    Well we had twice as many in last year's class than any of those years you refer to...


  342. WarriorNY:

    Anyway, I'm going to sleep... Goodnight folks...


  343. SAWARRIOR:

    theres more, i just named a few of them


  344. imuagrad:

    how dare a first year head coach (fresno) succeed in his first year. Norm Chow said it cant happen!!! Hawaii fans are in denial. von chow


  345. SAWARRIOR:

    346. i agree with you. a lot of "wait till he gets his players in" BS.


  346. WarriorNY:

    Whoa,
    Don't call my opinion BS...


  347. SAWARRIOR:

    fall back one hour, in one hour.


  348. SAWARRIOR:

    348. oh did u say that? a lot of folks say that, wasn't singling u out. sry.


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  350. cocobean:

    Boise lost. Does that bode well for the Warriors?


  351. SAWARRIOR:

    Boise will be pizzed and take it out on our team. :-(

    there's this other website that keeps popping up when i refresh. wtf


  352. cocobean:

    The team knows this is their last shot against Boise. Hope this gives the team some pep in their practices leading up to the game.

    Coach Chow, please find a way to put points on the board. Give the team a chance to win it in the 4th.


  353. Chee!:

    I just hope the team can compete against D1 mid-major talent next season (managing expectations).

    In Chow we trust.....


  354. obachan:

    In Chow we trust...if you trust that much, I get some land covered with lava in South Point if you like buy.


  355. Kevin:

    Obviously off topic:

    As of tonight, over 107,000 people have watched the Rainbow Wahine Volleyball team this season live at the Stan Sheriff Center.

    Granted that is tickets issues so give or take 1,000 - 1,500 on any given night, but still...

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  356. SAWARRIOR:

    what's the average attendance for home wahine games?


  357. cocobean:

    The Rainbow Wahine....Hawaii's most beloved team. A team Hawaii sports fans can hang their fandom esteem on.


  358. Kevin:

    Anywhere between lowest turnstile I saw reported this year was less than 2500 but it was a exhibition style general admission game. Highest turnstile I saw was just over 7,000.

    I think the arena has maybe 8,500 seats in normal basketball / volleyball configuration. 10,000 if you fill up the floor... Maybe...


  359. kev-1:

    Boy, that was a tough game to watch . . . again. I will try to hold my tongue, but must ask . . . was that Shutter's chance? Bring him in and run, run, run, etc.? Then you bring in Higgins and pass, pass, pass, etc.? For those that are hopeful that one of them will will start next week, don't hold your breath. IMO, the reason he didn't give just one guy a chance to show his stuff was so he could stick with Schroeder.

    While Higgins brought a spark (if you can call a score against Fresno's 4th stringers a spark), he seems like Schroeder 2.0 in terms of his release, arm strength, and velocity. I was really hoping to see more of Shutter. I'll roll with whoever at this point. Just improve.


  360. kev-1:

    Well, looks like SDSU is legit.


  361. Buffoman:

    For those who use Graves as an example, well it seems that Steel Jantz did not fit in Rolo's/Mack's system but is excelling in ISU's. And according to what was stated, UH under Mack and Rolo did not pursue Marriota. Okay, so it is what it is. Hey, we may not like SS but he may have fit in Chow's system. I remember folks bemoaning the fact that UH did not give Steel Jantz a chance under Rolo and Mack.

    Everyone has an opinion. Coach's call and like he said last week, if his bosses don't like the results they can always fire him.

    I'm like Kev-1 I'll be a fan, be frustrated and I'll roll with whoever.

    BTW, it seemed that Carr had all day and tomorrow to look for his receivers and we seemed to have less time (although SS does hold the ball too long).


  362. PurpleMaple:

    If the program continues to lose fans at the gate, they may have to. Next year will be critical.


  363. kev-1:

    Carr also throws a really nice deep pass. I don't think he should go pro yet, like they keep talking about. Unfortunately, scouts will worry because his brother was an NFL semi-bust.


  364. PurpleMaple:

    Besides the Wahine attendance/ticket revenue, UH keeps the parking and concession money. At Aloha Stadium, they get none of that. Wahine volleyball is a real money-maker.


  365. madeinhawaii:

    Quote of the day..

    "It wasn't scheme-wise, it was just our guys getting beat"


  366. cocobean:

    Replay on OC16 at 10. Curious what the play by play guys and the in studio analyst had to say.

    Want to see if we were physically overmatched. Want to see how Chow called the game.


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  368. kev-1:

    Just hard to understand how this team looks so overmatched by teams that we have recently been competetive against.


  369. Chicken Grease:

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    UH Warriors vs. Fresno St. Bulldogs gane going on NOW on OC16. Repeat, yes?

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  371. spisskyhrad:

    College football is no longer anything resembling what is was 20 years ago. It is now moneyball. Coaches look at their rosters like executives taking over a company. Loyalty to the school is myth. Seniors and juniors or the concept of upper classmen is a vanishing idea. Now Division 1 programs are committing to 8th graders.

    NCAA scholarships are one year renewable at the coaches option. UH used to honor an athlete's scholarship regardless of the coach if the player made grades and was not a felon. They no longer do that. They have adopted the Chow mainland approach to football. Screw the player, we gotta make some money. Dead wood is cut and cut quickly.

    Chow has been doing a lot of cutting since January. But he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

    Also please don't reference Chow to Jesus - it is perverted and stupid.


  372. imuagrad:

    if we all say start higgens, chow will say NO. so we should all say keep shroder in.

    CHOW KEEP SS IN!!!!!!!!!


  373. cocobean:

    First two UH possessions new look to the O. But still trying to eek out yards rather than going for chunks.

    First two FSU possessions UH not blitzing playing coverage.


  374. Chicken Grease:

    # 368 -- cocobean saw Of OC16 replay first :)

    spisskyhrad:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    Also please don't reference Chow to Jesus - it is perverted and stupid.

    I think Jesus wanted man to recognize unbridled accusation of others. We should not use "perverted" and "stupid" in the same sentence that states Jesus (see 2nd Commandment).

    Here's to a strengthening angel to Chow the same way one was sent to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.

    Let the Divine Will (a Grease uses a general expression in consideration of all spiritual, religious, and faith-believers) take place.


  375. Kevin:

    This is not the wahine volleyball replay I was waiting for....


  376. westwind:

    Sometimes, a coach does not mesh with a school/team. The net result is the destruction and total makeover unto something we don't recognize or even want. For those of you who have enjoyed Warrior Football in the past, you know what I mean. Just the transformation of our defensively line this season is troubling. Yes we have been racked by a lot of injuries. But as others have said before, "Are we improving or going backwards." Kinda makes you wonder if the coaches really know what there're doing. 40-3 just in the first half!


  377. SAWARRIOR:

    we have good players to be competitive but chow's and kaumeyer's schemes and/or philosophies are crap. IMO


  378. cocobean:

    Third UH possession fumble, Fourth three and out. Shank punt leaving short field. Poor blocking at heart of the problem in these two possessions.

    FSU third possess, trick play TD. Fourth short field mixing run and pass. UH blitz on 3rd D got burned with short pass/long run to RB. Wildcat their way in for 3rd TD.


  379. westwind:

    Just like in the NFL, an offensive coordinators might not be a successful headcoach. So the same must be true in the col"'


  380. cocobean:

    Seen enough to surmise we're physically over matched. Carr has time to pass, Rouse has holes to run through.

    Schroeder is risking physical injury evry time he passes, Joey has to make his own holes to gain yardage. FSU has more speed on both sides of the ball.


  381. Derek:

    I don't like the pro set offense. To me, for college, the best offense is the spread offense.
    You need an athletic QB ala Mariota, Manziel, Fajardo, Golston, Bridgewater, Klein etc. There are a lot of QBs who can throw well and who are also mobile. Unfortunately, Chow is old school and is stubborn and as such the game is passing him by. The younger coaches like Chip Kelly, Chris Peterson, and others are opening up the offense and are very imaginative and creative and are more willing to take risks. At least in the run and shoot UH was a good bet to score around 30 points or more. Now, under Chow's offense we are hard pressed to even get to 20 points. We scored 23 points against New Mexico and 27 points against Colorado St. yet we lost by 12 against New Mexico and 15 to Colorado State.
    Every other loss was a blowout against USC, BYU, Nevada, San Diego St., and Fresno St.
    Since Boise St. lost at home against SD St. the Broncos will be in a foul mood this coming Saturday and will take it out on our poor Warriors. Another wipeout for sure. It's sad, but at the same time, laughable. I had Fresno St. 66-10. I didn't anticipate the Fresno St. starters would be pulled after halftime. I think the Fresno St. coach showed some pity.
    Thankfully, UH basketball is on tap this coming weekend which is more encouraging.


  382. cocobean:

    I don't know about this year but Boise has always been a QB under center run first team. Defense has always been their calling card.

    Their O does get creative when the situation calls for it and they'll mix in option much like how JJ did to change things up.


  383. cocobean:

    The O only scored 16 against New Mexico if you take out the 100yd KO return. And 20 if you take out the fumble return for a TD. Of the 20 seven came on a one yard drive after the on side kickoff return by Lister.

    Chow has to dig deep into his play books or draw up new plays to put points on the board.


  384. cocobean:

    Damn FSU did start their reserves in the third.


  385. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    There was chatter on this blog during the preseason that UH had enough talent on the team to be competitive even with the new system. Not great, but competitive.

    I believed the above. I did not think the pro style offense was going to be this fricken hard for us to implement. It really looks like the players are moving mountains just to get positive yards. Tooth and nail to get a first down. Dang =(. Very frustrating to watch as it brings back some memories of another dark period of UH football.

    I guess the positive from this game is that none of our guys had a season ending injury.


  386. cocobean:

    Asked earlier if UH ran out of the gun. Glad to see them doing so. With the state of our blocking thought it might be easier to create creases.


  387. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    In addition to hanging on to the ball for a little too long, SS has a Tebow-esque like windup. Higgins seems to have a much quicker release.


  388. cocobean:

    Schroeder might stay on the spot too long because he's not very mobile. His throwing motion is better than Tebow but his arm strenght is lacking.


  389. 3-Prong:

    IWWTHM: 389: Agree. The windup telegraphs the pass to defender and delays the balls arrival. Agree also with Arcineaux's assessment that this now creates controversy.


  390. cocobean:

    Liked what I saw in Higgins. Reminds me of Kellen Moore. Not the biggest player, lefty with so-so arm strenght but knows how to make plays.


  391. 3-Prong:

    Unfortunately, I can hear the coach say that Shroeder is still his quarterback. Wonder if Kelaula will press him on possible change on Inside Access.


  392. 3-Prong:

    Even the post game analysis with Dash, Nasty, and Lafaele recognize the spark provided and seem to recommend a change.


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  394. Garret:

    I think that whoever is updating UH Athletics' website (SID?) needs to check things a little better. I think they got a name wrong in Coach Chow's answer to the question about who will start at QB for UH:

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  395. Shoko:

    MWC standings in week 11 along with upcoming games:
    Fresno State 5-1 7-3 (@Nevada, Air Force)
    San Diego State 5-1 7-3 (Air Force, @Wyoming)
    Boise State 4-1 7-2 (@Hawaii, Colorado State, @Nevada)
    Air Force 4-1 5-4 (@San Diego State, Hawaii, @Fresno State)
    Nevada 3-2 6-3 (Fresno State, @New Mexico, Boise State)
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    New Mexico 1-4 4-6 (Wyoming, Nevada, @Colorado State)
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    Hawaii 0-5 1-7 (Boise State, @Air Force, UNLV, South Alabama, Temple)


  396. Garret:

    Sagarin rankings for the MWC and other UH opponents.

    51 Boise State
    57 SDSU
    65 Fresno State
    89 Nevada
    107 Air Force
    124 UNLV
    126 New Mexico
    139 Wyoming
    146 Colorado State
    170 UH

    20 USC
    56 BYU
    163 South Alabama (last in the Sun Belt)
    190 Lamar (Last in the Southland)

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm


  397. Shoko:

    Guess Schroeder continues to be Chow's guy.


  398. Garret:

    Temple is #104


  399. Shoko:

    "Derek Carr … he’s probably a number one draft pick, I told him that after the game."

    I don't know about that. He's good, but to say number one draft pick?

    "I don’t know what else to do, I don’t think our young people know what else to do as well. I don’t know where we are headed."

    I wish he would stop saying things like this.


  400. Pauoa Boy:

    "Schramm put together a nice offensive scheme," Kaumeyer said. "If you take away the pass, they'll run the ball. If you try to load the box, they'll throw it."

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    Thank you Coach Chow for putting the other QB's in the game an actually giving well Higgins a chance to throw the ball. It's all we've asked is to give another QB a look and thanks for that. It may have been against the bench of Fresno, but seemed like Higgins was doing what he needed to do and holy crap the QB actually ran the ball for a TD? If Sean Schroeder would use his instincts and run when he needs to, it would be another element to his game to help the offense out. Okay Coach says sit in the pocket don't run, but frikk if I'm in the game and I see I'm about to get trucked, best believe I'm hauling ass out of the pocket and gaining some yards. Coach isn't playing the game and I'm pretty sure he will give you a harp on the sidelines but if you are gaining positive yards and moving the offense forward instead of backward, he will bite his lip a little bit. Oh well, you all have said enough but again thanks Coach for giving Higgins and Shutter a little PT. Now you see what you can build upon with what little Higgins proved to you. Schroeder is still the guy but you do have ballers right behind him Coach, hint hint???


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