Total recall

November 14th, 2012
By

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In baseball, pitchers not in the rotation sometimes are sent to the minors to get some extra work.

At UH, players not on the two-deep chart often are used on scout teams. It's not a demotion, UH coach Norm Chow said. "We don't want people standing around."

Wideout Darius Bright spent a couple of weeks on scout team before being reinstated to the two-deep roster. He started against Boise State this past weekend.

David Graves has been on scout team the past couple of weeks. This week, he portrayed Air Force quarterback Connor Dietz during practices. Graves now has earned a spot on the travel roster for Friday's road game against Air Force.

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Middle linebacker Brenden Daley will not be making the trip after being tardy to today's practice. This is consistent with the punishment safeties Leroy Lutu and Bubba Poueu-Luna received two weeks ago when they were deleted from the travel roster after showing up late for the final practice before the Fresno trip. Lutu is expected to start at safety against Air Force. Poueu-Luna won't make the trip while recovering from concussion-like symptoms.

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Mike Edwards:

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It must be travel day because media relations director Derek Inouchi is rocking his travel jeans:

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278 Responses to “Total recall”

  1. gobows:

    1


  2. MattyBoy:

    2


  3. MattyBoy:

    And 3


  4. Chicken Grease:

    Ohayooooooooooooooooooooooogozaimasu!!!!!!

    That's
    How much I feeeeeeel
    Feel for you baby
    How much I need
    I need your touch
    How much I live
    I live for your lovin'
    THAT's how much - THAT's how much
    That's how muuuuuuuhhhch . . .

    - Ambrosia

    # 238 (A Grease's, eek) from yesterday:

    Chicken Grease:
    November 13th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    # 55 on Flipbooks Hawaii look like . . . Stoudermeyer?

    A Grease meant Standhardinger and not "Stoudermeyer, gomen, heh.

    # # #


  5. MattyBoy:

    Maybe 4?


  6. d1shima:

    Dos!

    Is there a scout team for Tsaikos?


  7. MattyBoy:

    Nope no 4


  8. d1shima:

    :oops:

    off by a bunch!

    Still Top 100! (playin' it safe)


  9. kev-1:

    Glad that Graves will be traveling with the team. Let's hope that he gets in the game somewhere. At least he'll get to see his brother.


  10. d1shima:

    You'd think the message would have been received the first time about punctuality....10% never get the message?


  11. LizKauai:

    GO WARRIORS!


  12. Derek:

    I'm happy for Graves making the travel roster.


  13. Kevin:

    Happy Early Signing Period Day!!!


  14. d1shima:

    :-( to hear negative comments about Hamura's.

    At least Tip Top is still top shape!


  15. kev-1:

    I wonder if Inouchi knows you snapped a shot of his butt?


  16. Leron:

    This is the only blog where people talk football and quote Ambrosia songs. Waiting for Stephen to bust out some Baby Come Back by Player and my day will be complete.


  17. gobows:

    re: football attendance
    in the early 80's UH averaged 40-45k. back then the price of admission to the movies was $6, the price of my tickets in the south end zone $7-$8. today, price of a movie ticket $11-$12, the price of my tickets in the south end zone $32-$40. if the price to see a movie doubled in 30 years, why has the price to see UH more than tripled? PRICE GOUGING THE FANS. if they want more butts in the seats, lower the prices, delay the tv coverage on oahu, and consistently put a winning product on the field.


  18. Leron:

    Not Baby Got Back since we're talking about Derek's butt.


  19. haka:

    We need to build 'em up, not tear 'em down!
    Support the team!
    Go Wahine!
    Go Warriors!

    Aloha & Mahalo to all the soon to be UH athletes!


  20. Stephen Tsai:

    gobows:
    Don't forget the premium fee.


  21. gobows:

    mike edwards should have to wear the orange jersey permanently to avoid a freak accident happening in practice. i hope the afa is dumb enough to kick the ball into the end zone, so that #1 can bring it out. he is UH's best chance at scoring.


  22. gobows:

    #10 larry price says that every saturday morning, 10% never get the message.


  23. Chicken Grease:

    Should we rename the blog Warrior Butt [emphasis a Grease's; but (pardon the pun) not a Grease's a@$ ;) )] just for today?

    Sumimasen.


  24. Chicken Grease:

    A Grease can't stand wearing jeans. Perhaps a Grease and Inouchi have something in common.


  25. SAWARRIOR:

    graves has been on the scout team longer than 2 weeks, or could it be it just seems that way. in any case, im happy for him.

    it sounds like chow is trying to change his overly harsh ways, maybe hearing the grumbling about the unfair treatment of graves by him and his staff.


  26. Stephen Tsai:

    Notice the product placement next to Inouchi?
    This blog really needs to get a Gatorade contract.


  27. SAWARRIOR:

    17. i agree with you, it seems okole backwards teh way the UH does things.


  28. Stephen Tsai:

    Graves contributed to his situation. He wasn't on the field for a drill last week, and the next day he wasn't at practice.
    But he was very focused this week, which was recognized, and he gets to go on the trip.


  29. haka:

    TiqIQ's college football ticket price lists not taking into account premium fees:

    Ten Most Expensive Games By Average Listed Ticket Price
    1. Alabama @ LSU, $632.71
    2. Michigan vs. Bama @ Cowboys Stadium, $595.42
    3. Texas vs. Oklahoma @ Cotton Bowl, $541.39
    4. Michigan @ Notre Dame, $525.39
    5. Auburn @ Alabama, $481.66
    6. Florida vs. Georgia @ Everbank Stadium, $463.82
    7. Notre Dame v Miami @ Soldier Field, $448.69
    8. Notre Dame @ Oklahoma, $419.47
    9. Army vs. Navy @ Lincoln Financial Field, $401.31
    10. Wisconsin @ Nebraska, $397.82

    Ten Most Expensive Teams By Average Listed Ticket Price
    1. Nebraska, $262
    2. Ohio State, $227
    3. Oklahoma, $207
    4. Notre Dame, $206
    5. Alabama, $205
    6. Iowa, $202
    7. Texas A&M, $189
    8. Michigan, $185
    9. West Virginia, $172
    10. LSU, $158

    Most Expensive Conferences By Average Listed Ticket Price
    1. SEC, $139.71
    2. Big Ten, $132.65
    3. Big 12, $115.96
    4. PAC 12, $102.45
    5. ACC, $88.85
    6. Big East, $76.33


  30. papajoe2:

    #29~Holy moly haka. Looks like they don't need the big tv contracts.


  31. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Interesting that Graves plays scout team QB but is "officially" a receiver. At least he takes reps and is making the road trip.


  32. Chicken Grease:

    Stephen Tsai:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Notice the product placement next to Inouchi?
    This blog really needs to get a Gatorade contract.

    Indeed. How 'bout the following motto for that particular pic':

    GATORADE
    . . . because even jeans get thirsty. ;)

    [yes, for any of you wondering -- with the wink.]


  33. Annoddah Dave:

    @#17 gobows: Agree, but movies themselves don't make money...it is the popcorn and drinks. The price of popcorn is ludicrous, they have a higher markup than jewelry! Also, Mike Edwards will have little chance of getting a kickoff return. At 7K foot elevation the ball will fly like the Falcon mascot out of the field of play!


  34. Will-I-Am:

    Go bows.
    I have been saying the same thing. Taking my family (4) to the game is pricey. Over $100 just for tickets. We all know kids can't watch a 3+ hour game without food & drinks. I end up paying over $150 in the stadium.

    Does UH get the money from the ticket sales or is that the Stadium? Who set the price of tickets?


  35. Will-I-Am:

    Annoddah Dave.
    " Agree, but movies themselves don't make money...it is the popcorn and drinks. The price of popcorn is ludicrous"

    I think the stadium prices are ludicrous also. And you have you audience for way longer (more sales). I think that is part of the point.

    Lowering the prices of tickets will equal=
    -More fans at games.
    -More concession sales.
    -Stronger fan base.


  36. mo808:

    Good Morning Folks!

    Is it Friday yet? :)


  37. papajoe2:

    I'm wondering why we don't just play away conference games and 1 or none away, out of conference, then have the rest of the games at home? I thought we changed to have more away games because we get noticed by the rest of the nation and also show everybody that we are not a "homer team" team? We gotta make money with the home games and the travel by our team is not helping with school work and the problems of traveling itself. Some one stated that we may be playing more games on the mainland than games at Aloha Stadium in the near future. I think we will have a better record and people on the mainland will notice it too whether it be at home or not. A 3 pm Saturday game or even 1 pm games once in a while at home sounds good. No "homer" games with mainland referees, but I know the people on the continent will still complain if they lose. Also, the JJ and Mac era brought us publicity, hence the 6 games on national tv this year. Too bad we stunk up the place at all of the games. Only hope left is Friday against Air Force, with an option, no quit, quick, team in altitude.


  38. jimmy the lock:

    Some people look good in jeans, some don't.

    GO UH STUDENT ATHLETES!


  39. gobows:

    anyone buy any "H" logo items, the athletic department doesn't see that money, concessions at aloha doesn't give anything back to UH either. so realistically, is the athletic department really in the red? people that run UH are a bunch of greedy stinkahs.


  40. lava:

    Another lousy Chow practice. Maybe my expectations are too high -- preparing to win.

    Tough call for Vegas regarding the line if SS sits. Higgins would be an improvement, but even he's limited by his coach.

    Give the points and bet against Chow, regardless of qb, is my guess as to Vegas rationale.

    More national exposure will probably hurt recruiting. The comments from the recruits to date seem unrealistic. "I always liked Hawaii's style of offense." That era has come and gone, unfortunately. It's now Chow time, i.e. we big underdogs, again.


  41. haka:

    Will-I-Am,
    UH sets and gets the ticket revenue, but literally, no "concession" from the stadium.


  42. jimmy the lock:

    @papajoe2

    I must be tired, I tried but couldn't understand your post.


  43. Rodney:

    Good luck to the team and coaches you
    work and practice so hard you deserve
    a win.Come on football gods give us break!!!!
    To who ever starts at Qb go get um!
    I believe the coaches know what's best
    for the team!! If its Jermey, and I believe
    he deserves a shot,Light it up!!!!!!!
    If its SS go get the W!!!!!!!!
    Imua warriors!!!!!!!


  44. gobows:

    now is when the iron is hot, gotta try and get the bcs teams to come here now that the rns is gone. now the threat of losing is not a factor. michigan would never have agreed to a game if jj and the rns was still here. they don't want to pay for a chance at losing.


  45. papajoe2:

    jtl, I don't like the 6 or 7 away games. I like more at home. I remember we used to only have 4 away games, but with conference play, we now have 6. If the MWC "helps" us and the MWC plays more games here, they could take advantage of having another game at their home (13th game). Also,we will be playing 6 national tv games this year counting the Air Force game this Friday on ESPN. Not good that we got blow out in all of them. Hope I made better sense, but I'm tired too. :)


  46. Kevin:

    The Matagiese Family reports on social media Ulu Matagiese sent her LOI to UH softball for the 2014 spring season.


  47. Chicken Grease:

    Man. Too much, # 40.

    Where's that "sock puppet"?


  48. WarriorNY:

    $40 for tickets seems incredibly reasonable to me...

    Does UH have PSLs? If not, THAT is price gouging...


  49. gobows:

    #37 very few teams want to play at hawaii, but many teams will agree to a home and home matchup. the conferences are too big and the conference schedules take up most of the available dates. you only can play 1 game per week. the days of 9 home games will never happen again, not in the fbs. to help make revenue, UH will have to go after the money by playing road games against bcs teams. and hopefully UH can manage to get a few home and home match ups against the junk bcs teams. the alternative is playing more fbs teams, but UH will have to pay them to come here.


  50. gobows:

    the alternative is playing more fcs teams (div 1aa) not fbs.


  51. madeinhawaii:

    It has little to do with ticket prices when everyone can watch for free or almost free at any PPV location (private or public). Half of the games are also available on Cable/Satellite stations in the comfort of one's home. So, why spend your money there when you can spend it on something else? It isn't that Hawaii has less fans.. they have more but less that come to see the games live.


  52. madeinhawaii:

    I wonder what the number is of people who purchase those inexpensive Video streams for each game? For Football, VB and BB?


  53. jimmy the lock:

    @papajoe2

    Seven home games is fine with me. Six is fine too as long as the schedule isn't like this season's schedule.


  54. gobows:

    #48 "personal seat license" not in aloha. you can renew your season tickets, if you don't it's open to the public. my dad traded 2 of his 4 seats for wheelchairs seats, and they resell the two seats he turned in. so aloha can actually sell more the 50k tickets.


  55. RedZone:

    Alright. Ulu is a big time talent.


  56. RedZone:

    Alright. Ulu is a big time talent.


  57. gobows:

    ulu maika?


  58. Stephen Tsai:

    I don't worry about UH's money problems.
    As long as the lights work and the checks don't bounce, what the heck do I care? I'm not UH's CPA. Sometimes I think UH is too transparent when it comes to their money woes.
    Do people care about a newspaper's finances? No. They just want their paper delivered relatively near the doorstep before they take their morning dump. Nothing as irritating as having to take the cheek-squeezing walk to hunt down the paper.


  59. jimmy the lock:

    Good to see Wahine softball picking up local talent.


  60. haka:

    #46 Kevin
    Sweet Ulu!
    Great catch!

    http://thegardenisland.com/sports/hitting-the-world/article_d0a2d478-abb0-11e1-974f-0019bb2963f4.html


  61. papajoe2:

    49 gobows~ I know its too late now, but all teams that play in Hawaii will get the 13th game exemption. This includes the MWC. The teams in the MWC then can have an extra home or a "body bag" road game to take advantage of this rule, to make themselves more money. Yet, we are still are paying them the travel expensives to play here. Like I stated, its too late now, but maybe we should have told them that we would just pay for a night or 2 of their hotel or half of their chartered flight. I wonder if during negotiations, we just came out with the deal or did the MWC ask for those perks? They need more teams too and at that time, Hawaii was very marketable. They ended up getting 2 more WAC teams. If we didn't agree to the current perks, with SDS and BSU leaving, I think Hawaii would be the only choice.


  62. Rodney:

    #40 why did today's practice look bad?
    Who got the reps at Qb?
    How did Jeremy look?
    How did the D look? Is Yap back at de.?
    Tell us !!!!!!!!!!' What's going on?
    S T what did you see???!


  63. jimmy the lock:

    @Stephen Tsai

    No need read newspaper while on toilet nowadays, that's what smartphones are for.


  64. gobows:

    #40 every opponent has covered the line except for USC (1 point short), UH is hot, give the points. UH will come through again. garans.


  65. Stephen Tsai:

    Practice was fine.
    Only person in the stands was Justin Clapp's mom.
    Oh, and Jackson Wheeler's students.


  66. letsgowarriors:

    if Lutu is starting, does that mean JHT is coming off the bench? or is he starting at corner opposite Mikey?


  67. Stephen Tsai:

    Jimmy:
    I've actually dropped pens twice while doing the crossword puzzle on the throne.
    I don't trust myself to take a smart phone in there.


  68. Stephen Tsai:

    JHT is starting, too.


  69. Kevin:

    jimmy the lock:

    November 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    Good to see Wahine softball picking up local talent.

    Coolen's most impactful players in the last decade have been mostly local talent.


  70. gobows:

    does jackson wheeler have a job? i thought he was retired except for that radio show with jeff portnoy.


  71. Stephen Tsai:

    Jackson Wheeler is an instructor at UH.


  72. letsgowarriors:

    so Marrell coming off the bench?

    still believe coaches should move NeQuan to safety and pair him w Marrell.


  73. papajoe2:

    Didn't one the the new programs last night say that Higgins will be the starter?


  74. gobows:

    #69 jessica iwata may be the best player ever to play at UH. But coach bob also got lucky on some of his california recruits (stephanie rickets, kelly majam, melissa gonzalez). recruiting is hit and miss. you never know how they will adjust or if they will continue to improve.


  75. letsgowarriors:

    i guess maybe we'll stickin w 3-3-5, so Lutu JHT and Marrell can be on the field at the same time.


  76. Stephen Tsai:

    MJ is starting, too.


  77. letsgowarriors:

    3-3-5 then.

    hope TK figured out a way to contain the edge or else will be a long night for the D.


  78. jimmy the lock:

    I don't think Coach Coolen recruits players with luck in mind.


  79. Rodney:

    #65 mahalo ST
    Go Warriors!!!!!!!!!!


  80. Shoko:

    3-3-5 worked for SDSU when they beat Air Force this past weekend and BSU couple weeks ago.


  81. Stephen Tsai:

    Not quite a 3-3-5


  82. Kevin:

    There is some luck involved with recruiting and if anything, to minimize that “hit and miss” factor, a coach, in any sport is responsible for their development and adjustment to what D1 athletics brings (i.e. better consistent competition, managing travel with school work, conditioning elements, etc…).

    Majam wasn’t luck. She was one of those rare softball “bluechippers” that got a wide array of offers and opted Hawaii. Hard to find those when you are not UCLA or PAC 12 softball.

    Ricketts was a projected 1st baseman in training and had to been thrust into the pitching role due to injuries from others and their pending ace not returning to UH. Now she is right up there with the icons like Brooke Wilkins and Kelly Gentle.

    Gonzalez had to deal with so many injuries prior to her junior year and played pitcher and shortstop.

    All deserve credit for getting themselves to All American status, but they had to have been given the right path to do so.


  83. Kevin:

    3-3-5 defenses is why I STOPPED playing NCAA Football video games. I can’t run against that.


  84. Kevin:

    Next one:

    Rainbow Wahine Softball

    Heather Morales 5’9” pitcher/1st base

    EPSN State Player of the Week:

    http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=high-schoolcalifornia&id=1419

    (Click on “all stats” on the bottom to see pitching #s)
    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/vuZjWXLMoU6Ea7eLdWU7bQ/softball-spring-12/profile-heather-morales.htm


  85. Shoko:

    Must be a 3.5-3.5-4 then.


  86. haka:

    Aloha Heather!
    Woo Hoo!


  87. madeinhawaii:

    So what are you guys doing? 3.5-3.5-5 ? Computing Loci of Rank Defects of Linear Matrices?

    What's the answer?


  88. Stephen Tsai:

    Kevin:
    Did you get your Call of Duty game yesterday?


  89. Kevin:

    ST,

    That's not my thing. All my friends are into that Skyrim thing and all that. Im just stuck laying like a lump watching old episodes of "The Office" on DVD.

    Gave up games forever and a day ago. :sad:


  90. RedZone:

    Teams like Air force, Navy, and Army uses odd man fronts. Just saying. Aranda brought up safeties to support the run.


  91. Kevin:

    Haka,

    Get two more to officially name. I thought would have been three more at least, but thats what happens when one assumes.


  92. WarriorMojo:

    ST, any word on Ben Dew? Still around or has he been decommissioned. Didn't see him on the sidelines last week, though I may have missed him.


  93. RedZone:

    I see homerun derby in wahine softball future.


  94. 3-Prong:

    LizKauai: thanks for the lunch tips. Heard the exact same two points made about Hamuras from someone here on Kauai, so will steer clear today. Getting hungry, may try one of your suggestions.


  95. haka:

    Kevin,
    Ulu and Heather are GREAT gets! I can hardly wait for this season to start. Okay, will wait patiently for the other two. Go Wahine!


  96. haka:

    Kevin,
    Noticed Heather's mom's name is Malia. Any possible Hawaii ties there? Just wondering.


  97. Kevin:

    Haka,

    Not that I know of. Wouldn’t rule it out completely since Coolen manages to get Cali girls with some sort of local tie. Just this year, freshman Kristina Akiona from Cali is another example. Her last name obviously, but she was born here but her family moved to Cali when she was real young.


  98. AlaWai:

    Pomai? Pomai?

    Warriors 32 Angry Birds 27


  99. SteveM:

    gobows:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    now is when the iron is hot, gotta try and get the bcs teams to come here now that the rns is gone. now the threat of losing is not a factor. michigan would never have agreed to a game if jj and the rns was still here. they don't want to pay for a chance at losing.

    Yup, unfortunately. Now is the time to line up those games for big $$$ and maybe even get them to come here in September and December at reduced cost.


  100. Chicken Grease:

    # 100!


  101. HiFlyer:

    haka
    #60 thanks for that story, interesting that she will get some international playing experience before coming to UH.


  102. Derek:

    84, Kevin: Thanks about Heather Morales. Looks like a real good one. Coach Coolen is starting to get the program feeling like it's not rebuilding, but it's reloading. Of course, the first thing in softball is always to have great pitchers. At least 1, but hopefully 2.


  103. madeinhawaii:

    At least we get free press out of this...

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom10121114/college-football-auburn-tigers-kentucky-wildcats-tennessee-volunteers-earn-bottom-10-no-5-spot


  104. Na Koa Mike:

    Photos of the Boise game are now up.

    http://www.nakoa.org/2012/11/111012-boise-state-game-photos/


  105. Former UH Athlete:

    Edwards sporting red hair... questionable. he's been on fire with his feet this year, so I guess the hair makes some sense.

    Everybody start hoping/praying Edwards stays for his senior season.... He might declare for draft after this year. To be totally honest, he looks like a NFL caliber CB/KR. He's one of the few quality Mack recruits. (Alex Green and Aaron Brown were also good transfers).


  106. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    I guess Hawaii isn't alone in having it's president decide the fate of a football coach.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jeremy-fowler/20905855/auburn-prez-to-evaluate-chizik-tigers-football-at-end-of-season


  107. Stephen Tsai:

    Ben Dew is still ailing. It's a knee. Got hurt during the bye. He actually got hurt during both bye weeks. I think UH just won't tell him when there's a bye.


  108. Stephen Tsai:

    Winchester-Makainai is back, though, which means Milovale is back at right tackle.


  109. Kevin:

    On the WSN, a poster by the name of "intensity" writes his opinion about Heather Morales. Not sure who he is but in past loose conversations he is familar with coaches in the So Cal area.

    For those who don't follow as much on the softball front....Morales is a big time get, the equivalent of another Majam in a sense that this kid probably had her pick of schools. She played club ball with the Firecrackers, Minor's Gold and most recently Cal Lite....all big time club teams....great job by BC....I got a buddy that coaches with the Minor's Gold 18U and he couldn't say enough good things about her, great in the dugout as well as on the field.

    And Matagiese?.....foget' bout' it....lol

    The kid mashes the ball and I am AMAZED the PAC-12 didn't take a swing at her....this kid will provide some pop in the lineup. Nice job of recruiting by BC...and not only them. BC balanced out this class really well...

    These recent kids definitely play our style of ball....

    He makes a good point about the club teams she played with. The Firecrackers have produced so many top notch PAC 12 players, its a big deal when we are able to get one of them.


  110. Independent Thinker:

    On call the coach last night Curran talked about how Hawaii produces 10 to 15 D1 players each year, roughly. Then chow chimed in with some incoherent thought about statistics indicating that for every 500,000 people, that population will produce one D1 player. Thus, according to chow, hawaii should produce about two D1 players each year.

    I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair.

    Loco?

    Then I thought: ah ha, this explains why chow doesn't go hard for local recruits. he thinks hawaii only produces only two legit D1 prospects each year, based on his stats, and he thinks he can't compete with the other schools recruiting our kids. Kinda makes sense if you following chows thought and try to make sense out of why he would bring up such an asinine statistic after Curran already explained the lay of the land to him.


  111. Former UH Athlete:

    #100... I find that much more original that "first!" LOL


  112. d1shima:

    :roll:


  113. Stephen Tsai:

    The cool thing is we have a first post and 100th.


  114. d1shima:

    Safe travels, Stephen!


  115. haka:

    Ok, just got up and dusted myself off. IT, that is so ironic because I laugh so hard and fall out of my chair every time I read your posts. LOL...darn it...getting up again. ;-)


  116. jeezy33:

    110. That stat is so false its ridiculous. The population of Fresno is roughly 500,000 and I know they pop out over 10 D1 recruits a year. Chow is starting to sound worse and make 0 sense to me.

    Sacramento population is under 1 million and I think Grant High School alone produces multiple D1 recruits a year.


  117. gobows:

    #97 anyone know the name of kristina akiona's dad?


  118. lava:

    According to the Dundie Award Winner (ST knows I mean him), practice was fine, but I see the same team that shows up for the games. Are the games fine too? The players do what Chow tells them to do. If you are measuring obedience, I guess practice was fine. If you are gauging whether you will see a competitive football game on our part come Friday, then it was just like every other practice, although Higgins got his throws.

    Seems like everyone is ready to make the qb change except the one guy's opinion who counts, Chow.

    The fact that my analysis differs from ST's analysis does not reflect the admiration I have for him. He's as good as they come in my book, and we are lucky to have him, whether we agree with him or not. He apparently only includes you in his attendance count if you sit on the metal bleachers in the hot sun. Aloha Stadium should have had him take attendance at the last game.


  119. letsgowarriors:

    yeah Edwards better watch out for the red hair. i heard there was a study done, if you dye your hair a different color, it makes ur hair thinner and your helmet will come off easier.


  120. gobows:

    #110 #116 he was using world population. you take the 85 on scholarship times 124 the number of fbs teams then you divide by the worlds population minus the number of lost scholarship due to ncaa penalties times pi. and then you round to the nearest half million. you may have to fudge a few numbers here or there but it comes out right, yeah, roughly.


  121. haka:

    @gobows
    Parents are Johnen and Mark Akiona of Buena Park, Calif.


  122. cocobean:

    Indy. You missed his point. His point was that HI produces D1 players at a higher rate per capita than most places. He wasn't saying there's only two local prospects per year. It was an off hand compliment to the level of high school play here.


  123. jeezy33:

    120. That's an irrelevant stat though. Why even throw it out there? Some states don't even compete really in football so it doesn't even matter. Obviously states like North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Maine, New Hampshire, etc dont produce football stars consistently.

    Does Hawaii have a nice pool of talent? yes. But so does every other big city in the United States.


  124. haka:

    Looks like VB Wahine signed Higgins, Taylor & Shinn as expected.


  125. Former UH Athlete:

    110... Hawaii has the highest % D1 players per XXX,XXX people. I've heard of this stat a few years ago, so what Chow speaks of is true, but sounds like he didn't articulate very well...

    The reality is that UH will have a hard time keeping the best players because every major program spends time looking at Hawaii prep players now. It wasn't like that 10-15 years ago. Hawaii is actually a convenient place for recruiters because 90% of Hawaii D1 prospects are located in one metro area so it's easy to view them in one recruiting trip. Also with the evolution of social media and youtube, it's easier than ever for Hawaii recruits to send video links to coaches across the country. Recruiting beyond your geographical location is much easier for coaches now.

    The only way UH keeps the top talent is if there are family ties (eg Correa family) or maybe their grades aren't good enough to qualify for the mainland school that's their 1st choice. The best Chow (or any UH coach) can do is maintain as much permissible communication and make a scholarship offer. The way to keep the top local talent is by building relationships with the parents/family of the player, but that takes years to develop and Chow just arrived.

    Assuming the prep players will go to mainland and not pursuing them at all during recruiting is impermissible. Many local people get homesick after a year on the mainland and if they don't get the desired playing time, or don't get along with coaches, there's always a chance UH can catch transfers back home. Jordan Pu'u Robinson is the most recent local boy to return home from mainland school. (he's been injured his whole career, but UH always has a chance to catch top recruits that are homesick).

    I know for a fact Mack didn't go after several top local recruits when he heard they were taking an official visit to a mainland school ... I actually ran into an article by SB Nation/MWConnection that perfectly backs up my argument that McMackin was a horrible recruiter and sums up all my points on this season regarding the lack of talent...

    http://www.mwcconnection.com/2012/9/29/3427988/hawaii-warriors-looks-like-a-repeat-of-the-1998-season


  126. haka:

    @cocobean
    you made me fall off my chair again.


  127. gobows:

    #118 from the words i heard coming out of the coaches press conference, it sounds like the players are not quite listening to the coaches. because many players are making mistakes and those mistakes are making ss look real bad. but the fans don't see that. if you not one of the current coaches, you don't have the specific level of eye vision to correctly assess the plays. good thing for us, the coaching staff has that specific level of eye vision and they can see clearly what everyone else cannot. the coaches are like neo from the matrix. they can see, better than you and me.


  128. letsgowarriors:

    haha using SBNation to back up your argument. thats hilarious. SBNation is just a blog. Mack might have recruited terribly, but Chow COACHES TERRIBLY!


  129. Former UH Athlete:

    Excerpt from article I just posted:

    -- "We need to realize that Hawai'i recruiting talent has dropped significantly after June Jones left for SMU. Jones' successor Greg McMackin tried to ride the last wave of talent from the remarkable 2007 Sugar Bowl season Hawai'i had. After that, it was all downhill and local talents like a Manti Te'o decided to go elsewhere. Hawai'i coaches made little efforts to keep the talented local kids at home just because they "heard" a top school on the mainland flew them in for a visit." --

    I've been saying this as early as Mack's 2nd year as coach.

    And no, I did not write the article in case anybody was suspecting that.


  130. Kevin:

    Next up.

    Rainbow Wahine Softball recruiting Class of 2013, to play spring 2014.

    Brittany Hitchcock 5’10” pitcher/1st base:

    (Click on “all stats” at the bottom to see pitching #s)

    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/RqrKmMaXbE2XFxskCYvhTA/softball-spring-12/stats-brittany-hitchcock.htm

    ESPN: http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=high-schoolcalifornia&id=1451&tag=brittany-hitchcock


  131. gobows:

    #125 and manti teo opened the floodgates for all the upper tier bcs schools to take a serious look at hawaii high school football. good for hawaii, not good for UH. coach kale said he's getting calls from many of the top schools, even from the sec.


  132. letsgowarriors:

    who cares how crappy mack recruited. chow is pretty out a crap product on the field. i dont care how hard chow recruits, if he doesnt make changes to his staff and himself, he will kill the program.

    he should be like romeo crennel and fire himself as coordinator.


  133. letsgowarriors:

    putting* out


  134. gobows:

    #128 you get proof?


  135. Tom Clarke:

    #118 I agree with you "lucky to have him". I am so thankful for him and all (well maybe most) of the contributors to this blog.


  136. letsgowarriors:

    proof for what?


  137. Kevin:

    Dave Shoji Announces his early signees.

    http://www.hawaiiathletics.com/news/2012/11/14/WVB_1114122040.aspx?path=wvball

    HONOLULU – University of Hawai'i Rainbow Wahine volleyball head coach Dave Shoji announced the signing of Hawai'i prep stars Tayler Higgins and Nikki Taylor for the 2013 season.

    Higgins comes to UH as a true freshman from Punahou School. The 5-10 setter had a stellar career for the Buff 'N Blue, guiding the team to state titles in 2011 and '12.


  138. gobows:

    #136 "but Chow COACHES TERRIBLY!"
    how can you tell? i believe if they were to play kalani, damien, or waialua UH would blow them out like lamar.


  139. haka:

    Aloha Brittany!
    Physical trio of Wahine!


  140. letsgowarriors:

    im not sure if TK's scheme can stop Nanakuli's option attack!


  141. gobows:

    #124 #137 i saw that, but who is shinn?


  142. gobows:

    #140 the option is kryptonite to the UH defense this year.


  143. koakane:

    :cool:


  144. haka:

    I believe Sydney Shinn is a sand recruit.


  145. gobows:

    #130 is hitchcock a slapper? .411 avg 30 hits 27 singles.


  146. Bryson:

    To shed some light on the recruiting front a school normally sends out a letter to a player during their soph/jun years in HS basically saying hey our university is interested in you if you are interested in our university let us know and we can provide you with more info....So if these letters were sent to the top local recruits and they didn't respond or said no then as a coach with limited scholarships why would you continue to pursue someone who has stated they have no interest? Also Manti was never coming to UH no way we were even on the radar for him...Manti is a once in every 10 yrs type of player who has the ability to change the game by himself...


  147. gobows:

    sydney shinn wore a size 11 shoe when she was 16.

    http://www.ncsasports.org/womens-volleyball-recruiting/fl/wellington/wellington--high-school/sydney-shinn


  148. gobows:

    #146 in the past, those letters either were lost in the mail, or never sent by the hawaii football coaches. more than likely the latter. the truth is not always what people want to hear.


  149. Former UH Athlete:

    #128, Since Jones went 1-11 at SMU his first year and 3-9 his 2nd year at UH, I guess that makes him a terrible coach too??? Nick Saban went 6-6 in the reg season in his 1st year as Alabama head coach.. I guess he's average? Les Miles 1st year as a HC went 4-7 at Ok St. Jim Tressel went 2-9 his 1st year as HC at Youngstown St. The great Bill Belichick only had 1 winning season in 5 years at Cleveland before winning 3 Super Bowls with New England.

    I'm certain fans were calling them terrible and a bad hire when they were struggling through their 1st year.

    The point is, 99% of head coaches don't perform well their 1st season with a new program because there's a tremendous amount of change that takes place. Schemes, personnel, coaching styles, practice schedule & rhythm, and habits all change with a new coaching staff and it's a big task for 100+ 18-22 year-olds to adapt.

    It's way too early to tell if Chow is a bad head coach... once he gets a couple recruiting classes in, we'll all get a fair chance to assess him. I waited until McMackin's 3rd season before I regarded him as a terrible coach (based off of recruiting, play calling, clock management and on-field decisions).

    My friend close to the program and a few boosters I know were mentioning that Mack was not even contacting top locals back in 2009-2010.


  150. Bryson:

    #148:
    At what point do you as a recruiter move on? Hawaii may never land the top local blue chippers but for every local blue chipper that leaves we have a whole continent to recruit someone to take their place...


  151. letsgowarriors:

    im not only looking at record. im looking at the product hes putting out.

    chow can become a good head coach but hes going to have to make changes to his style/scheme and adapt. so far this year, i havent seen much. a little tweak here and there, but for the most part hes stubborn.

    99% is stretching it. i mean guys like DeRuyter, Bob Davie, Kevin Sumlin, Dino Babers, etc at least have their teams playing better in their first season. u can see progress. even w team's like LaTech a few years ago and ASU and UA this season. w Chow, we're regressing every game.


  152. Stephen Tsai:

    It's kind of funny that somebody is having a conversation with himself.


  153. indylavasockpuppet:

    I like talking to myself!!


  154. Stephen Tsai:

    OK, here's a little homework assignment for some of you.
    Let's say you were UH's coach. What would your recruiting pitch be?
    I'm curious because some of you don't come across as being, well, charming.
    Now, obviously, I'd be a kick-ass recruiter because all of you guys decided to come here.
    But turn on the charm. I would like to hear your pitch.


  155. Stephen Tsai:

    I'm not saying if Chow is right or wrong. Not saying McMackin or Jones were right or wrong.
    I'd just like to hear how some of you would approach it.


  156. letsgowarriors:

    ill give Chow this, its his first year coaching as a HC. hes learning a lot of new things. can he make changes from year 1 to year 2 and continue to evolve and adapt in future seasons? make the most of his personnel?

    next season, we'll see.


  157. WWF:

    David Graves should portray UH's wildcat at Friday's game against AF. With the AF blitz's
    UH would do well with his skill set.


  158. Stephen Tsai:

    Hmm. I haven't heard a pitch yet. I guess I'm going to San Diego State.


  159. d1shima:

    HC NC said on the last Inside Access that the approach he uses with the Hawaii players is "it's an opportunity to build something" for Hawaii.


  160. gobows:

    #150 even though 90% of the top recruits in hawaii go away, an effort should be made to each top player, and let the player scratch the school off of his list. all coaches at hawaii (including tomey) seem to disregard local players for whatever reason, and essentially take UH out of the running. if coaches are recruiting, they should reach out to every player that could help the team. hawaii should just flat out offer each top recruit, cause what the hell, 90% going go away anyway. but maybe with a little luck some years that 90% could be only 80%. it's worth the trouble to keep a top recruit at home. family will be in the seats too.


  161. Annoddah Dave:

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:

    My pitch would be to moms'. Whether from a two parent family or single parent, chances are there are moms. Nothing comforts a mother than knowing a coach will look after the well being of her child when he is thousands of miles away. Mothers' cannot help but consider the well being of their son...they sweated and slaved for the kid more than dad. If mom likes what the coach is saying, that is nearly half the battle. Maybe we need to get Brad Pitt to do a commercial for Warrior "cologne". LOL


  162. manoa#1:

    does'nt matter what defense they play or who the have at safety the warriors will get murdered on friday. chow and his staff sucks.

    Falcons - 56 Warriors - 10


  163. d1shima:

    Te'o and Mariota are fueling a firestorm in Hawaii recruiting.

    How does a mainland school get a leg up on others in Hawaii? Hire a guy on staff who is trusted and known here and who has actively been recruiting Hawaii recently; who can legitimately say that he chose to stay home and play when not many others were even considering it.

    There's such a guy now who HC NC might do well to consider for his staff. He's gonna be an asset for somebody.


  164. gobows:

    st:
    you will be able to play right away, hot chicks at the beach, all home games are televised, hot chicks at the beach, you can get a great education (cough, cough), hot chicks at the beach everyday, you can be a part of history, hot chicks at the beach every day all year long, and it's an opportunity to build something, plus hot chicks at the beach every day all year long.


  165. Annoddah Dave:

    @#163, d1: Does coach know this person?


  166. d1shima:

    He knows his brother!

    (and, according to the Blog Host, his father and grandfather)


  167. Former UH Athlete:

    #142... good description!

    Inexperienced defenses typically don't do well with the option. Especially when the DE gets sucked in on the fake dive (which Yap and Falemalu fell trap to several times vs UNM and UNR). It's all about assignment football (so cliche!) but it takes discipline... and discipline comes from experienced.

    Weather forecast at Colorado Springs... not bad... Partly Cloudy, High of 55 and a little breezy. Should be in the 40's by kickoff and most of game.


  168. Stephen Tsai:

    Gobows:
    I like the intent, although I'm pretty sure you can't be using "hot chicks" in a spiel.


  169. Stephen Tsai:

    Also, you can't make promises you can't keep.
    That's how you get disgruntled players.


  170. Stephen Tsai:

    d1:
    And he's got a pretty good foot.


  171. 3-Prong:

    LizKauai: thanks for the tips on lunch. Heard the same thing about Hamuras from another local. Ended up at BBQ Inn, pretty good, reminds me of Flamingos with the complete meals. Ooooh, but kanak attack setting in. Hehe. Thanks again.


  172. indylavamanoa#1sockpuppet:

    I really like to talk to myself!!!!


  173. Kevin:

    http://www.hawaii.edu/offices/bor/tempdocs/UHM_Athletics_Report_Exhibits_110712.pdf


  174. lava:

    I think for recruiting you carefully and strategically elicit from the player his view of his strengths and how he sees himself contributing, then you as coach share your vision of the program, and then you make the pitch by suggesting how this player might be employed in the system to make both the team, and the player, improved.

    Since Chow is not warm and fuzzy, he really needs to delegate recruiting to someone to but everything together except the coaches smile and handshake. It is ok is Chow is not the best spokesperson, but he needs to know that and delegate accordingly.


  175. gobows:

    isn't all home games televised?


  176. Moocher:

    for the recruiting pitch?
    definitely can't say hawaii is a small town where people will recognize you and treat you and even take you in as family anymore.


  177. Kevin:

    'why is everyone giving me the silent treatment today?' -Hellen Keller.


  178. mauiboy159:

    Talk about recruiting. Oregon tripped Baldwin's 6'4 LB Jordan Hoeim, kid was excited from his trip to Oregon.
    The Ducks looks like a favorite for him. UH did offer him this summer. Hear Navy has been talking to Baldwin QB Keelan Ewaliko.


  179. Former UH Athlete:

    Seriously... Spam on our Warrior Beat?? C'Mon man


  180. tommui:

    Kevin #180

    Well, if you don't know ...


  181. Phatboy:

    110... I think Norm Chow was talking about top tier D1 prospects, 5 star athletes. Florida roughly has a population of 20 million people and Scout.com shows about 40 prospects with a 5 star rating. Which is about the correct ratio according to Chow's statement. How many 5 star prospects does Hawaii produce each year? Usually none...maybe one or two players in a good year. However, year after year the Hawaii boys show that they can play with anybody. Which is why many BCS school are coming after our local boys.


  182. NYUHTX:

    Glad to hear ST has such good morning habit. He is a keeper after all.

    I'm just glad to have two game experienced QBs. Well, three.


  183. papajoe2:

    Good thing about Chow's staff is that everybody recruits. Not everybody on the former 2 coach's staff recruited.


  184. d1shima:

    ...speaking of UofO. Good article on Kelly's offense.

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8631595/the-success-chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-offense-more-familiar-seems


  185. WarriorNY:

    Recruiting Pitch...
    You'll have fans that will support you through good times and bad (see our Boise St. attendance numbers...)
    oh wait....
    I mean you'll have the backing of the state especially if you are our QB... (See Sean Schroeder...)
    oh wait...
    You won't have to deal with fan(s)on beat blogs claiming they attend closed practices and complain about the same thing everyday...
    Oh wait...


  186. haka:

    In short, to the recruit:
    The University of Hawaii is in need of your services. What can the University do for you to secure your future and how can we be a postive impact on you and your family? How can we help you become the person you dream to be. Hawaii is the most isolated spot on earth which makes for a very unique experience. It doesn't matter where you are in this world though to realize your dreams because it is through commitment, dedication and hard work that dreams come true. We at the University of Hawaii have a dream too. We are striving to bring the best people from around the globe to help build an institution and a program that we all can be proud of. We believe in your abilities as an athlete and a person and we need your help to tear down the walls of limitation and help build the halls of traditon.


  187. Kevin:

    Before you tear down the walls of limitation, has a bid been put out to find out who wins the contract to build the halls of tradition?

    Has the CIP funds been approved and who will make sure they dont get lost in the shuffle?

    Also, has a committee been formed to select who will have photo ops during the ground breaking 15 years later?

    (sorry, couldnt resist)


  188. Kevin:

    Call the recruit back a month later.

    “umm.. they found iwi near the site where the new Hall of Tradition will be so…. Like walk on?”

    Sorry… too easy.

    But seriously though, good pitch Haka. Better than just a pitch fo pull chicks…


  189. madeinhawaii:

    I'd start my pitch with.. "I know football's important, but if you didn't have football. What do you see yourself doing? Where would you like to be doing that?" If the answer is "Hawaii" ... I'd then sell 'em on the "celebrity" status of being a local player. Go down a list of names, male and female of former players who are doing well on the islands thanks to local connections they nurtured as players.


  190. haka:

    ha! just throwing dust in the wind. hey, who's the 4th recruit?


  191. Kevin:

    Haka,

    I know of two names which is why I thought would have 5 to sign, but appears to be only four.

    One is like a utility type athlete, the other is a speedy outfielder. Dunno what is happening at the moment. Perhaps the offical press release comes out later tonight.


  192. haka:

    shootz, gotta go. mahalo. will check 'um out latah.


  193. Otto:

    Everyone knocks Macks' recruiting, but he started Junior Day and had more summer camps than during JJ's era. At least Mack could get in to see Torres at Kahuku. JJ and Livai had the feud, and UH was shut out.


  194. gobows:

    #190 you forgot the environmental impact statement, nothing in hawaii can get done without it.


  195. Kevin:

    Well apparently you can try to book a conc... nevermind.


  196. d1shima:

    Assistant Coaches run camps (as reported to the Legislature).

    Junior Day means walking out of your office into the hallway once to greet players from all the schools.

    Recruiting is tedious, tough and time-consuming.


  197. 3-Prong:

    Hangin at JJ Brioiler overlooking the bay over some Coronas. Found my beach. Aaaah! Liz, Nice island you got here.


  198. d1shima:

    :-)

    Beats being in Muncie, IN watching this DC's nightmare of a game where it is 31 degrees and clear.


  199. WarriorMojo:

    Recruiting pitch:

    What do you want in a school? Do you want gold plated bathroom faucets? Do you want uniforms that glow in the dark? Do you want all the latest toys and gadgets that money can buy? Do you want a place where people will cheer for you even though they can't pronounce your name and don't know how to cook the food you like?

    Because if that's what you want, if those are the things that MATTER to you in picking a school – if that’s what you value in life for that matter -- then by all means Hawaii is not for you. You should go to sc, or udub, or oregon or notre dame or wherever so you can have those things that you value. The path has been paved. The road is clear. If that is what matters in your life, if shiny things and toys and gadgets are so important to you, then you are not a good fit for UH.

    Because at UH we don't have gold plated plumbing. In fact some of our faucets don't work at all, and the ones that do may not have any soap to wash with anyway. That’s just how it is. We are a public school in a State where everybody is struggling. Your family is struggling. My family is struggling. Your aunty and uncle are struggling. My nephews and nieces are struggling. Times are hard for ALL of us and, honestly, I’m worried about the future, not just of the team or of the university. I’m worried about Hawaii, about our lifestyle and our people. It’s hard to see what the future holds for us.

    But I’m not a politician. I don’t have all this clout with the high muckamucks. I’m just a football coach. That’s all I do. I can’t make a billion dollars out of some internet site. (Because if I could, you better believe I’d be doing it).

    Nope, all I can do is coach a little ball, but that’s okay because that’s what I love. I love coaching my players. I don’t know if I can actually explain how good it feels when I see the team succeed. That those are my guys doing good things and those people cheering are cheering for them. It’s an incredible feeling.

    And you know what else? Call me nuts, but when the team is doing well, when we are winning, I actually believe the team makes a difference, makes things better. People seem happier. I know it sounds kind of silly, right, but I remember the Sugar Bowl days. EVERYBODY wanted to support the team then. People stood in line to buy tshirts! Everybody was full of PRIDE back then.

    Well, why can’t it be like that all the time? Every year? People say that was a once in a generation thing, but I don’t believe that for a second. Hawaii can be great again. Hawaii WILL be great again. That is my goal. That is my plan. That is my expectation. This WILL happen.

    And you, son, could be a big help in getting there sooner rather than later. We need to change people’s perceptions of UH, but so many of the top kids just go away to the mainland for the bells and whistles. I guess it’s really important to them to play for people in South Bend or Eugene or Westwood, to make those people happy. Whatever, that’s their choice.

    But you could help change that. If you were on board, I could tell the next guy that you were here. And that gets him excited and he commits. And then I tell the third kid that you two guys are already here and he gets excited. People would follow you. And pretty soon Hawaii is a national powerhouse. You could help blaze that trail instead of following a path cut by someone else before you.

    Think about this for a second. Remember how manti teo made such a big deal about his college choice? He kept milking that thing over and over and then he made his decision on television? Well, imagine if he had gone on camera with an sc cap and a notre dame cap, but then he says, “I love the tradition and history of these schools and it has been a great honor to be recruited by them. But after thinking about it, I realized that there are things that are more important than tradition and history. People. Culture. Family. Those things matter even more. I love Hawaii. It’s where I was born and raised and where my family lives. It’s where I want to live and raise my own family. I want to make a difference there in the place that I call home. So that’s why I choose to be… a WARRIOR for the UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII!” Gosh, chicken skin just thinking about it. If manti had said something like that, game over. He’s set for life. Manti for governor.

    And yeah, I’m a bit sad when I think about teo. Tried to recruit him to Hawaii, but he wasn’t interested. Tried to tell him he could help people RIGHT HERE, but he wasn’t interested. So now all that publicity and all that money go pouring into the richest school in the country. What’s another million bucks or two to notre dame, seriously? He’s happy, so I guess it worked out for him, but if you can make things better for people, why not make things better for people right HERE at home?

    So, what about you, son? What matters to you? They always say that if the top Hawaii recruits stayed home every year, we’d be a perennial Top Ten team. And I think that’s true. We can't afford to give you an IPad. You won’t have an electronic koa locker with a flashing neon nameplate and you won't be flying on charters for most road games. But you know what? If you come to UH, you can make a difference. You can help make things better, for the team, yes, but more importantly for the school and the State and the people of Hawaii. Is that important to you? Does that matter?


  200. Chicken Grease:

    Former UH Athlete:
    November 14th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    #100... I find that much more original that "first!" LOL

    Thank you, Former UH Athlete! :)

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Hey!!!! Sock puppet is here!!!!


  201. Kevin:

    Good people at JJ's Broiler. :cool:

    Anyone visiting Kauai must stop over.


  202. WarriorMojo:

    Damn, that was long.


  203. d1shima:

    OK. You win, WMojo.

    Pick up your "Visit List" from the RC on your way out.


  204. d1shima:

    Mean TD run by Ball St. RB!

    ScoreFest in session....


  205. Chicken Grease:

    # 202 WarriorMojo, bravo. A Grease don't agree with every single thing in that, but, the best so far. A Great read is never "too long" if you're worried about that.

    Good one about Manti. We all need to be reminded, yes, of the whole "big deal" he made out of choosing on signing day. Big whoops. He's Mormon, right? Walking condradiction (with apologies to . . . is it Green Day? Ironic a Grease use that expression. Can't stand Green Day. Oh, well. Maybe appropriate -- can't stand Manti either) him going to ND.

    He'll always be a bull$#177er in a Grease's eyes. Let him have what comes his way.


  206. Chicken Grease:

    Should've mentioned "# 199" in addition to mentioning "# 202." Good going, WarriorMojo.


  207. Kevin:

    #4.

    Rainbow Wahine Softball.

    5'8" infielder Lindsey Willmon.

    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/bcVw2NOqykWEGdNuQRb5-g/softball-spring-12/stats-lindsey-willmon.htm


  208. Kapahulukine:

    I miss Rolo and Aranda. Aranda, showing his war movies to the players to get them pysched up. Haha! Was it "Saving Private Ryan" or "300"? And Rolo with his nicknames for all the players. Talking about connecting with your boys on the personal level. I remember when Moniz was complaining on KGBH that Rolo called him "Sandbox". Moniz mentioned Rolo saved a really slick moniker for himself. Too funny. I'll bet TS remembers most of those nicknames.

    I guess it would really suck to be 0-8 with Aranda and Rolo in charge. But for some reason I would understand the situation a little better. Not feel like an intruder on somebody elses corporate property. I think Chow has spent many hours in skyboxes. Silence by any coaching staff during tough times brews a toxic stew. I mean, does this guy view any kind of communication with the public a threat? We are just writing words. He has a guaranteed contract for two years. Take a lesson from Shoji, coach. Passion for the game and ease of communication with both players and fans. Yeah, fans are critical. Maybe its because you've never actually spoken to them.

    Rolo as HC would at least face the angry crowds without a mummified expression and say something funny or disarming to neutralize all this tension. And I sure as hell know both would be mixing everything up, and not sticking with the same damn strategy that is failing miserably every game. Whether or not he had Mack's lousy recruiting leftovers. Give me Rolo with this set of talent, and I'll bet we have a better team than what we are fielding now. And Rolo was kind of a interesting, intense kinda guy, who understood young people. I think he would have made a hell of a recuiter.


  209. cocobean:

    CG. If you were Manti's parent what advice would you have given him?

    The only thing I have to say about him is he represents Hawaii well.

    Recruiting pitch. Use Ohio State's old one, son what kind of car do you want.


  210. Bleed Green and White:

    (#193 - Otto)

    One time, one trip to see Torres @ Kahuku, that's not called recruiting, that's called just visiting.
    Recruiting takes effort.
    One good recruit during Mack's era, Alex Green.


  211. Moocher:

    one day johnny recruit-we just might put you in our circle of honor.....
    oh wait.

    kinda hard, in my opinion i think it's easier to get a kid to come here from CONUS then it is to keep a kid from here home. like they say the ducks i mean the grass is always greener.


  212. jiminy cricket:

    I'm writing off football already. Chow doesn't have what it takes; time has passed him by. The program was pretty strong. Mcmakin would have gone to a bowl game last year if Moniz did not get hurt. Chow didn't have to rebuild the program, he had a strong foundation. Now he is absolutely destroying the program. Can tell, bc the team is not improving game to game. Even when JJ went 1-11 at SMU his first year, his team was improving game to game. Not so with Chow.

    Pray for JJ's return.

    So, to relieve the gloom from football, look at UH baseball recruiting. It looks like they might have their best recruiting for the 2014 season in history. This morning's paper said two local products who are in the Top 100 nationally, several other local guys in the next 50 nationally. Trapasso doing a fabulous job recruting; going to the Big WEst really helps.


  213. Stephen Tsai:

    Moocher:
    Now that's pretty funny about the circle.


  214. cocobean:

    An off the wall take on why more top level recruits don't stay at home. This aside from all the advantages the BSC level schools have in terms of facilities, TV exposure and week in week out competition.

    I trace Hawaii's recruiting problems to a rise in financial aid given by private schools. If you go back 5-10 years and make a list of the top 100 recruits see how many attended a private school on financial aid. We all know the mission of private schools are college prep. An off shoot of this mission is go away and broaden your horizons. Going away for school is part of every private school's mantra to their students.

    I contend that private school financial aid to athletes is the root of UH's recruiting woes. Someone should find a way to require any athlete getting financial aid must sign with UH if offered. That'll solve most of UH's local recruiting woes.

    Again, for people like Sheldon. This is sarcasm.


  215. 3-Prong:

    201 Kevin: yup good service, and friendly laid back employees. One Longboard at the airport bar for da road..... Ok Hawn Air pilot, take me home safe gunfunnit! Hehe. Feelin good. Go Warriors!


  216. madeinhawaii:

    Let's go look for the potential recruit's girlfriend and offer them scholarships of one sort or another first along with on campus housing. AND if that doesn't get 'em... we tell em his #1 rival for the girl applied.


  217. Believe It!:

    Jordan Wynn former Utah QB joining staff in January.
    Sounds like the staff will change a little.
    Footballscoop.com


  218. oldtimer808:

    Well said WarriorMojo


  219. Bleed Green and White:

    (#217 Believe It!)

    Jordan Wynn will be a graduate assistant. Pretty close to staff I guess.


  220. Moocher:

    ST...thanks i try

    i think maybe MAYBE, it's about time the NCAA let mid-majors "pay" athletes. since there is no way many mid-majors can upgrade facilities to attract athletes-pay them to perhaps level off the playing field?

    or is it just UH that seems to have way too hard of a time to get the slippahs on the correct feet (Upgrade)?

    imagine telling johnny recruit, we don't got soap, but we'll pay you n you can by soap and lots of other things.


  221. lava:

    Recruiting and Miano seem to go together. Anyone else think, at least in hindsight, leaving Miano out was a mistake?


  222. obachan:

    In real estate, it's location, location, location. In recruiting, it's relationship, relationship, relationship. You build on your base - building relationships with local coaches & players - then spread out. I like the way coach Arnold has gone about assembling his coaching staff partly based upon the strength of their recruiting connections in various parts of the world.


  223. kapakahi:

    #221,

    Definitely a mistake leaving Miano off the staff.....'cuz now other FBS (mostly Pac-12) programs are in contact with him....to get his insights on the talents of the top local HS prospects.....beyond just Kaiser HS.


  224. kapakahi:

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsutahsports/55280349-59/wynn-chow-coach-quarterbacks.html.csp

    Might be more than just 1 change on the coaching staff....just on the offensive side of the ball alone.

    Looking probable.....especially if there aren't improvements on O the last 3 games.

    Coaching is not just about Xs and Os.....or even about motivation....but primarily about teaching and developing the players to realize their fullest potential.

    Hmmmm.......


  225. Kevin:

    3-Prong:
    November 14th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
    201 Kevin: yup good service, and friendly laid back employees. One Longboard at the airport bar for da road..... Ok Hawn Air pilot, take me home safe gunfunnit! Hehe. Feelin good. Go Warriors!

    My first time on Kauai was on Sunday and had dinner there. A great atmosphere for Kauai residents and visitors to relax, enjoy good food, and catch a game.

    Former Warrior Jett Jasper and current Rainbow Wahine (softball) player Jori Jasper's family runs the place. So... even better! :cool:


  226. kapakahi:

    #225,

    Gotta go check out JJ's Broiler at Nawiliwili Harbor too!


  227. kapakahi:

    #226,

    Oops! Didn't read #201 beforehand.


  228. kapakahi:

    Congrats to David Graves....for steadfast preseverence.


  229. obachan:

    Good report from Keoki Kerr tonight on Greenwood's $2 million dollar demand which her lawyer has withdrawn. Donna Kim refers to as extortion. Hope that MRC has cooked her own goose - something to be thankful for come Thanksgiving.


  230. kev-1:

    Interesting to read the recruiting pitches. I guess mine would be based in the standard premise that the athlete, local or not, is needed to help build this program. Point at the losing season as proof that their talent is needed.

    For the mainland boys, sell them Hawaii - the weather, the off season fun; sell them the education - despite what many say, UH does offer a diverse range of majors with decent reputations; sell them the concept of "ohana."

    For the local boys, sell them the pride they would feel for playing at home, the name they could make for themselves here, the legacy they could leave behind. And remind them how lonely the mainland is. Remind them how far away they will be. But lastly, wish them well should they choose to go somewhere else. I often feel that local recruits sense more of a burden to play at home, compared to the excitement they get from a mainland school.

    It is probably not aggressive enough of a pitch as others would make, and I would probably have a poor recruiting class, thus not holding on to my job very long.


  231. kev-1:

    BTW . . . I wish people would leave kids like Manti alone in terms of decisions these kids make to play elsewhere. How dare we as fans demand that local kids deny themselves an opportunity much greater than many ourselves have had, just so we can watch them play for the home team.

    I am very proud of every Hawaii athlete that has success elsewhere. While I would love to see them stay, I would never hold it against them for taking better opportunities.


  232. madeinhawaii:

    Looks like JD is a finalist for the Cal Fullerton AD position.

    http://www.fullerton.edu/ADsearch/

    If this is what he wants, I wish him all the best!
    Go get em JD!


  233. niho mano:

    I'm glad David Graves is on the travel roster.


  234. kapakahi:

    #232,

    Would be....going back home for JD.....to the OC.


  235. kapakahi:

    http://www.ocvarsity.com/sections/article/gallery/?pic=1&id=34547

    See slide #87 of 102 for UH Wahine softball signee Brittany Hitchcock (Ocean View HS).


  236. madeinhawaii:

    New QB Coach to be has no degree, yet. Is he really coming as a QB coach or a grad assistant?


  237. Kevin:

    kev-1:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
    BTW . . . I wish people would leave kids like Manti alone in terms of decisions these kids make to play elsewhere. How dare we as fans demand that local kids deny themselves an opportunity much greater than many ourselves have had, just so we can watch them play for the home team.

    Some people are a-holes. Always cute to see men rag on student-athletes young enough to be their own sons or daughters. Gotta love the FACELESS internet access.

    And that is my opinion.


  238. kapakahi:

    Even with the poor economy in Cali, Cal-State Fullerton has been upgrading its facilities and the whole campus giving it an overall facelift over the past 10 years or so.


  239. kev-1:

    mih . . . what you talking bout? QB coach?


  240. gobows:

    #236 according to willingham, he's going to be the qb coach, replacing that norm chow dude.
    no degree necessary.
    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsutahsports/55280349-59/wynn-chow-coach-quarterbacks.html.csp


  241. kapakahi:

    Home of the Titans!


  242. gobows:

    wonder why the hawaii media didn't break the story...


  243. 3-Prong:

    Help Nissan cast its official Heisman vote for Manti Te'o.

    Google: Nissan Heisman House


  244. 3-Prong:

    Max one vote per day.


  245. kev-1:

    Kevin #237,

    In terms of ragging on student athletes . . .

    I am generally okay with discussions and criticisms about what players are doing on the field in terms of their performance, etc. I think for the most part (at least for me), it is simply fan banter that should not cross a certain line. I would be lying if I said I have never spoken out about a player. But to have a sense of entitlement over what student athletes "owe" the fans is ridiculous.


  246. Old School Dave:

    Kaimuki High School is a stones throw from UH, yet no one recruited Chester Sua back in 2010. Sua is now starting at linebacker for Washington State. I understand that no UH coaches even visited Sua, which is hard to believe.


  247. kapakahi:

    #242,

    Probably 'cuz the team....and the local football media....left today to fly to Colorado for the AF game.


  248. kev-1:

    thanks gobows

    Hmmm, there goes the part in the recruiting pitch about Chow being the QB coach.


  249. Bugaz:

    Shouldn't we as fans want our best to stay and play for the home team? We want to have a great product to cheer for and be "big time", but we should praise our best athletes to go away and seek greener pastures. I don't think so. Just as they choose to go away, we as fans can choose to support them or not. Now I would never hassle that player in his/her choice to go elsewhere, but I am a Warrior fan and I choose to support those who choose to be here. I cannot see fans of other States such as Texas saying to their top blue chippers "we would love to cheer for you at Alabama", I just don't see it. Perhaps it's the "ohana" or "aloha" concept that people here expect all fans of Hawaii to be nice. No disrespect, I just would love for all top athletes to stay home and build a great program. Will it ever happen...I SURE HOPE SO! Protect da ʻāina!


  250. kev-1:

    Gosh, is experience not a requirement for a QB coaching position? Does this concern anyone else? I mean, I don't know the guy at all, but . . .


  251. kev-1:

    Bugaz . . . your point about not hassling a player who chooses to go away is the key. That's all that matters IMO. I don't expect everyone to cheer for kids that go away, that's just my preference. And, yes of course we want them to stay. But if they go, they go. That is their decision.


  252. Bugaz:

    Yes no hassling if they choose to leave.


  253. Chicken Grease:

    HI News [not] Now reporting ;M Donovan in running for Ath' Director @ one of the Cal State campuses. No?


  254. madeinhawaii:

    As long as dey no talk steenk about our beloved Warriors! ...


  255. jm2375:

    Gee what an exciting game. Not. 39-30 (That's not a half-time score)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fresno-state-defeats-uc-riverside-055442713--ncaab.html


  256. Chicken Grease:

    Uh. That's J Donovan. Dunno wha's up w/a Grease's typing skills lately (well. Intermediate school WAS hundreds of years ago ;) ).


  257. hightide:

    199 where did I sign. good job.bro


  258. kapakahi:

    #246,

    Unfortunately, the same recruiting error and/or misjudgement happened this past 2012 Signing Class when UH (both past and current staffs) decided not to visit Kaimuki HS to actively recruit FB/LB Siaosi Hala'api'api....who's now starting at MLB for the Wyoming Comboys.....as a true frosh. The current Warrior coaching staff had counted on landing LB Poly MLB Salamo Fiso....who instead ended up signing with Arizona State.
    http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wyo/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/depth_chart_event/depth_chart.pdf

    With the coaching change, the Warriors also missed out on signing Santa Ana JC LB Dylan Reda.....who's now starting for Southern Miss. From South OC (San Clemente HS), Reda was being recruited by Brian Smith.
    http://www.southernmiss.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/reda_dylan00.html

    The worst part is....that the MLB was widely understood to be a Warrior recruiting need position....with Corey Paredes now gone. Meanwhile, the Warriors have obviously struggled to settle on an established starter at the MIKE 'backer position.....initially going with TJ Taimatuia, then since flip-flopping between Brendan Daley & Benny Fonua.....when none (TJ, Daley, Fonua) have ever played MLB before this season.

    "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."


  259. Chicken Grease:

    Heh, 232 is first.

    JD. What is all this JJ, etc., these guys ain't five year-olds, hahahah.


  260. gobows:

    #248 it was kapakahi that provided the link to the salt lake article


  261. WWF:

    #221 I was hoping Miano would get the HC position, from being the Interim HC. Just having Mack retire would have been the fix, with Rolo and Aranda as OC and DC.


  262. Chicken Grease:

    Bugaz:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Just as they choose to go away, we as fans can choose to support them or not. Now I would never hassle that player in his/her choice to go elsewhere, but I am a Warrior fan and I choose to support those who choose to be here.

    An A+ for this comment by Bugaz.

    We don't have to cheer for that ilk.

    And the ones unfortunate enough to play against the Warriors and/or Rainbow Wahine and/or Rainbows and/or Rainbow Warriors on UH athlete senior night? When they"re not getting the high school graduation-class leis up to their own eyebrows at the end of the game win or lose? They realize.

    Or heck, on their OWN senior nights. When they're left staring at a grateful crown NOT Hawaiian [insert chee-hoo here: ______]. They realize.

    GO WARRIORS.

    :D


  263. WarriorNY:

    Sorry for comment earlier... I just get frustrated with all the negativity...


  264. kev-1:

    If you are a local athlete who went away and happen to play against a Warrior or Wahine team, I guarantee your friends and family are there cheering for you too . . . lei and all. Heck, even get guys like me who may have been on the Hawaii sideline cheering for the home team, but was still hoping you at least had a good game.

    You are not a "type" to not be thought of anymore. Some people may not cheer for you, but those who matter to you still do.

    :P

    And yes, I still get to say GO WARRIORS.


  265. PurpleMaple:

    Chester Sua committed to Washington St. on May 21, 2010 for the 2011 recruiting class. He was an early commit as Washington St's 4th commit as a 4-Star OLB. I don't believe he had any intention of playing for the Warriors.


  266. RedZone:

    Negative waves.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ&feature=fvwrel


  267. Old School Dave:

    Sounds like Chris Tormey, Wyoming DC, found a gem in Bulldog Siaosi Hala'api'api. Tormey will be back, if not already, to sign more local players. Going to school in Pullman, WA and Laramie, WY can only be described as for the "hardy" and adventurous type of person. Not much to do there, but at the same time, not many distractions like here, so players can stay focused.


  268. PurpleMaple:

    Mac's staff recruited MLB Tyler Gray, MLB, but just before leaving for Hawaii as a grey-shirt recruit, Boise St. called him. He never got on that plane to Hawaii


  269. cocobean:

    Going over the list of early signees noticed there was a lot of girls getting scholies for VB and SB. Imagine most of their little girl dreams was one day suiting up for one of the Wahine teams.
    Made me think there's more than one side to where or why an athlete ends up where they end up.

    There are athletes the home team wants to sign who end up going elsewhere and there are those that want to sign with the home team but don't get offered. Behind each signee there's a story, a personal one.

    As fans we've become too callaous about the recruitment process. We only focus on the athletes that can help us and disregard the ones that can't. We exult the ones that sign and often times cold shoulder the ones that don't.

    I'll never disrespect a local kid that comes home to play on a visiting team. That kid has a story to tell why she/he is playing for that team and not the home team.


  270. WarriorNY:

    RedZone,
    I like that Negative Waves...I'm gonna have to start using that!


  271. Bleed Green and White:

    (#231 kev-1)

    Brother, I agree 100% with you regarding "local boys" and "local girls" that go away. God bless them all. I still cheer for them no matter where they go!

    Hey all:
    Jordan Wynn will be a Graduate Assistant and NOT a full time coach!


  272. Manoa#1:

    David graves made the travel roster cause he did a good job running the scout team offense this week plus he's brother plays for Air Force.


  273. manoa#1:

    jordan wynn was a terrible qb at utah. what da hell is he gonna do for the qb's. shud of just hired darnell. and if we need a receiver coach wat da hell ashley Lelie stink he'
    s at practice everyday chow shud just hire him.


  274. Moocher:

    so can we read between the lines yet about the times chow did not fill the travel roster?
    looks like guys were on it, screwed up and then taken off it.

    this seres as a kuleana notice that the players let their teammates down on both sides on the pond...they let down the players that traveled and surely the ones that stayed back and didnt travel felt they wasted a spot that perhaps woldve opened up a spot for one of them to go.

    ..at least that's what i got from it.

    i think one thing is clear. if chow didnt get a young man a win on the field, he will give him life lessons that he can use to win off the field later on.


  275. Shoko:

    Jordan Wynn wasn't terrible, in my opinion. His college career was filled with injuries, but his numbers as a QB was decent enough to start when he was healthy.

    Looks like Chow is taking the direct route and hiring Wynn as the QB coach and not as a GA, similar to what Wittingham did with Brian Johnson. Possible next OC in two years, too?


  276. ai-eee-soos:

    mornin

    As widely expected, Hawaii’s Jeremy Higgins will start at quarterback for Friday’s game at Air Force.

    “He deserves a chance, and he’s had a good week of practice,” UH coach Norm Chow said. Login for more...

    As widely expected, Hawaii’s Jeremy Higgins will start at quarterback for Friday’s game at Air Force.

    “He deserves a chance, and he’s had a good week of practice,” UH coach Norm Chow said. Login for more...

    mornin'

    Higgins named starter.


  277. ai-eee-soos:

    ,,, kope time


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