Snap decision

March 5th, 2013
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A while back, UH coach Bob Wagner gave his final football scholarship to Farrington High coach Skippa Diaz, who then gave it to running back Randall Okiomoto.

Okimoto had a decent career at UH, earned a degree, then went went back to his alma mater to teach and coach.

Okimoto, who is Farrington's head coach,  has been paying it forward ever since.

Farrington's Tyler Liana will be joining the Warriors as a walk-on long-snapper. Liana, who is 6 feet 1 and 240 pounds, is the son of former Farrington quarterback Carl Liana (Okimoto's teammate) and nephew of former UH quarterback Bronson Liana.

Tyler Liana is tough and diligent. He began playing football as a sophomore, and has developed into a good tight end and very good long-snapper.

"He was our most improved player," Okimoto said. "He's a good guy."

Liana was a student intern with the Queen Lili‘uokalani Trust last summer.

320 Responses to “Snap decision”

  1. Rodney:

    Beat USC!


  2. Bugaz:

    I second that


  3. Annoddah Dave:

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:
    Just goes to show that from good deeds come more good.


  4. 3-Prong:

    Good Morning All


  5. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    Still here - but is it a good morning being here at Queens?

    Thank you one and all for your good wishes.


  6. al:

    ...and randall is a good guy.


  7. al:

    hi tomas!

    get well soon.
    a burger is good!


  8. WarriorMojo:

    Beat 'em ALL!


  9. gobows:

    Aaron Zwahlen is coming to town:

    Aaron Zwahlen ‏@aaronzwahlen
    Officially ready for spring break in Hawaii. #lifeproof http://instagr.am/p/WdX-RjNjas/


  10. PurpleMaple:

    Coach Wagner is No. 1. Why? His '92 team beat Illinoi in the Holiday Bowl. No other Hawaii coach has done this - winning a major bowl game on the Mainland. Plus, his teams beat BYU when we were huge underdogs.


  11. Abunai:

    Hey Al. How you been? I third that!! Beat USC!!


  12. Haleakala:

    Tyler Liana sounds like a great young man.


  13. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good Morning Gangeez!

    Liana looks like a good get.

    Tom Mui is a good guy, get better soon Tom.

    Yes, Warrior Mojo, beat them all, starting with USC!

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  14. Abunai:

    Good to hear Aaron Zwahlen is excited to come to Hawaii!! Can't wait to see him play after his mission.


  15. A-House:

    alnbama:

    only a few Tsaikos will be attending the Navy game to the best of my knowledge.

    all tour groups will have their own allotment of tickets and usually junk seats - for example, at West Point, we were in the end zone - some were on the goal line and 5 yard line.

    best to contact UH Athletic Department for tickets with UH supporters.


  16. A-House:

    A-House family continues to pray for the speedy and full recovery for Tom Mui!


  17. A-House:

    Tomorrow, we start the reverse trek back home for MasaBoy - long drive to Long Beach to ship his 4Runner back.

    Currently cleaning up the condo, doing last minute laundry, etc.


  18. lava:

    Okimoto was a tough guy who fought for every extra yard he could get. I'd guess every one of his players develops some extra toughness and competitiveness.


  19. BigWave96744:

    Speaking of Aaron Zwahlen, his 18th birthday was yesterday and he'll start his LDS mission in Baltimore this summer


  20. BigWave96744:

    We now have 3 long snappers (not named Ingram or Yap) to go with 3 place kickers.


  21. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Welcome to the Warrior ohana, Mr. Liana.

    Get well soon, tommui!


  22. ai-eee-soos:

    Welcome aboard, Tyler Liana.

    " ... Liana was a student intern with the Queen Lili‘uokalani Trust last summer. "

    Good going, Tyler.


  23. gobows:

    #10

    much of that credit goes to Paul Johnson, after he left, the UH football team quickly became the worst team in the wac. and fred von appen showed everybody that Hawaii had very little talent by changing the offense.
    de ja vu again with june jones and mack. the difference between coach Chow and fred is the recruiting. if coach Chow is not successful, at least the next coach will have players to work with.
    expect some growing pains again this year with a lot of freshmen and sophomores getting playing time.


  24. Kukui High School:

    ST,

    Any pictures of what the inside of the Ching Complex is supposed to look like?


  25. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Welcome to the Warriors, Tyler Liana!

    tommui -- get well and get out of sickbay soon! Think of build-your-own burgers, buffets, fine dining, dancing, Azamara... :)


  26. Old School Dave:

    Paul Johnson, Mike Sewak, Ken Niumatalolo, and Chris Smeland left when they saw the writing on the wall with regards to the lack of support from the AD and administration ("You were successful with what you now have") and the implementation of ridiculous admission policies that affected Prop 48 and JUCO transfers to UH ("We're going to be the Stanford of the Pacific"). The other WAC schools pounced on that opportunity in terms of recruiting players from Hawaii, not to mentioned upgraded their facilities. Coach Wagner, basically, had his legs cut out from under him.


  27. TMx808:

    Very excited for the defense this season. The battle for LB is going to be insane. The Bowens kid also looks like he can step in right away and rotate in the Secondary.
    My Pre Defensive Lineup.
    DE: Yap
    DT: Samia
    DT: Friel/ Tepa
    DE: Woodard
    LB: Laurel
    LB: Gener
    LB: Fonua
    CB: Phillips
    CB: Grimes/Pierce
    S: Marrell Jackson
    S: Hill


  28. al:

    yo abunai guy...been busy. pulled in many diections these days. no time for lunch even.

    eh, what a great recruit class?!


  29. Old School Dave:

    Anyway, what's done is done. No sense in dwelling in the past. Time to move forward.


  30. Kekoa:

    So, Col. A-house, MasaBoy is coming home to take charge of the culinary needs of our UH athletes - right?

    We could be looking at even more gourmet grub featured at our tailgates!


  31. al:

    it will be interesting to see where tigi hill lands up, safety, olb, speed rush de. a man of his athletic gifts could go anywhere.

    methinks that iuta tepa will be a de. good depth there now.


  32. al:

    old school dave...always like wags. didn't like the way the ad handled his situation.


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  34. Old School Dave:

    Al: Wagner's firing was probably a low point in UH athletics, along with the firing of Red Rocha. Interesting to see Hugh Yoshida at Norm Chow's welcoming reception at Washington Place when he was hired last year. Small island, gotta make nice.


  35. Jeezy33:

    27. Garcia Williams is going to start before fonua does..


  36. mikey:

    Coach Wagner was a Defensive coach just like Mac

    It was Paul Johnson's Offense that made the team run.
    We should have hired Paul as head coach.

    Once he left the offense became history along with Wagner.

    So in a sence Paul Johnson was #1 in my book


  37. mikey:

    You need a very good Offense minded coach to run any team.
    And surround yourself with great defense minded coach to stop your plays.

    OR vice versa. That’s why both coach Wagner and Jones succeeded at UH.


  38. Kekoa:

    Judge Mui ~ Take it slow 'n easy on the recovery track. I've learned to give it your best effort and strive to push past what the doctors tell you.

    This is the season you'll want to see the Warriors push past usc and attack the rest of teams on the schedule. Think of them as being the team everybody wants to beat...and can't!


  39. BG:

    Top of the morn' Tsaikos and Tsaikettes!!! Ready to slip into lunch!
    Get better Tom...
    With Masaboy in town, cattle calls will take on a new dimension for shur


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  42. mikey:

    Now that we have a very good Offense minded coach to run this team.
    I hope he surrounded himself with great defense minded coach to stop coach Chow plays.

    And practice practice practice over and over to perfection...

    Let the Spring training begin!


  43. mikey:

    We could use more help on the defensive side
    Only can get better


  44. alnbama:

    Hey Mr A-house, that was the ideal situation to sit with other Tsaiko's, but can can, no can no can. At the least maybe get chance to say Hello to everyone before or after the game.


  45. Annoddah Dave:

    @#s, 26, 32, 34 Old School & al: Amen! That is what happens when leadership takes one step forward and 2 steps back. It took UH a long time to recover...HY knows it too or he should.


  46. JaM:

    Tommui speedy recovery!!!


  47. Abunai:

    #28 Al

    Yes it is a great recruiting class on paper. I hope the coaches bring them together. I do really like this recruiting class. Alot of speed and height. I wanted at least one more DT and one more DE.... But in any case what a great class.


  48. Former UH Athlete:

    #34, I think the trio of Herman Frazier hires was the low point in UH Athletics. Greg McMackin, Bob Nash and Jim Bolla.

    #35, I love Garcia-Williams... He was the starter for most of last year and if he puts on some weight he's going to be really good. On film, he's got nice speed. I have no idea what his 40 is but he plays fast. Just needs some bulk.

    I also love the safeties. Jackson and Hill are going to be laying the lumber. UH just needs to avoid the injury bug this year. Not sure if Art Laurel will keep his starting job. The returning freshman (now sophomores) have higher ceilings and the new guys are quicker on paper.

    Can't wait to see who wins the LB position battles. UH is going to improve greatly with the competition.


  49. Former UH Athlete:

    #47, UH had more DL recruits but Tua'au, and Ekuale de-committed and went elsewhere last minute. They where going to be two of the highlight recruits but were poached.

    That's the recruiting game for ya. Schools similar to UH's stature are always at risk of the big boy schools luring away the top commits. It's just the way it is. Just have to give better suitcases... ;-P


  50. papajoe2:

    I thought UH, during Wagner's years, went downhill once Coach Johnson lost or his playbook was stolen. I heard that his plays were being passed around to the WAC coaches. But that was a long time ago.


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  52. rexie:

    Always nice to see another gov get into uh. Why not give him a scholly? Maybe if he came out of Kahuku ah, wat u tink? How u figah? I'm joking. In my eyes, Okimoto will be a great hs coach when he wakes up and gets da molokai donkey of his back an wins the big games. He also needs to help get more of his athletes qualified. I mean his star athletes. Over the years I can recall stand out last names like Fatu, Faumui, Lesu, Silva, Iuta, Kealoha, Isumu, So'oalo, Tuilepa, Noga, Siliga, Tauefa, Sula, Sua, Taolelagi, Latu, Masalosalo, this years Sataraka, Taumua, A'mo Silva, Anakolea, Tavae, and the list goes on and on. What will it take to get these guys qualified along with some exposure to get some offers? Da Kilihi people is looking fo some answers. Any recommendations? LOL.


  53. Pukashell #5:

    Welcome Tyler Liana to Warrior Nation!


  54. Philosoraptor:

    How can one hire someone when he is not present to do so?


  55. BigWave96744:

    Herman didn't hire Mack...
    Neither did Donovan


  56. Philosoraptor:

    A former athlete should be more abreast to the happenings and details at his/her alma mater.


  57. Bowwar:

    Speedy recovery to Tom Mui...Optimism is high based on the recruiting, but it will take good coaching to ensure you get the most out of your players.


  58. Lorretta Beegle:

    After being on probation now for close to five years my probation was nearing an end. I have paid all fees, completed my community service, and live a drug free life! However, I was in route to the hospital to admit my sick father several months ago. At the time, I was pulled over by a NC State Trooper that had absolutely no compassion for the situation. The court date was set one month and three days from the alleged speeding violation. The ticket was dismissed on the court date. To my astonishment, I received an additional two and a half months to my probation sentence-For a SPEEDING TICKET! Now, if that is not being "guilty until proven innocent," I do not know what is... The system, although having a shortage of officers, does everything within it's power to keep you "locked in the system forever!" I am still in shock about this... Does Tolling really apply to a traffic violation, as well? Jamie, thanks for letting me vent about this matter and I appreciate, in advance, your response.


  59. Bowwar:

    Wags was a good coach...It's too bad he was treated so terribly when they decided to fire him. Definitely a low point in UH athletics along with the Rocha fiasco. The Wonder Blunder isn't too far behind either.


  60. Bowwar:

    I also think that given time, McMackin will be seen in a positive light...He didn't leave the cupboard bare and probably would have won more games than Chow in his final year. Just bad karma with the ND gay thing, the huge $$$ contract, and lots of injuries (especially to QBs) during his tenure short-circuited his stay. I really thought that McMackin would have done better had he "cleaned-house" like Chow did and brought in his "own" coaches. However, Mac tried to be "politically correct" and kept some assistants that should have been discarded. Also, it should be noted that Mac was a genuinely "nice-guy" and a "players coach" maybe to a fault.


  61. BonDancr:

    ---if anything, the skilled players can dance the Harlem Shake
    (seeYouTube) very well. Hopefully their football skills are up there too.


  62. Hawfan:

    Just heard that will gregory will not b on team anymore or enrolled at uh,that sucks its something legal


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  64. Old School Dave:

    I don't think anyone would question Coach Mac's ability as a DC. I think he will resurface as a DC somewhere. Probably at a BCS school. His UH defenses in 99 and in 07 were pretty good.


  65. gobows:

    #52
    practice, practice, and more practice. meaning read, read, and read some more. you want better grades in school, the students need to read more. talking all da kine is fine, but they need to be able to read and write in english. and that might be getting more difficult with todays youth relying so heavily on electronics and videos.
    like anything else, if you do the work, you will get results.


  66. gobows:

    #60

    do you mean george lumpkin?

    dave aranda may end up being the greatest Hawaii football coach in history. he'll end up in the nfl.


  67. oldtimer808:

    Rexie#52 I hope that was a misspelling but it is not Kilihi but Kalihi. Number one thing is no misspell our Hawaiian names please.


  68. al:

    #49...one was "stolen" because all along his heart wasn't with us, we were only a safety valve for him.

    the other was lolo and a victim of his own consequences.


  69. Buffoman:

    # 68 seems like both seemed to have the same affliction: "Starintheyetis". They may be cured by actually realizing their dream and become the star status they seek. Or they could suffer the ignoble fate of then contracting the even worse affliction: "Beingforgottenforeveritis".


  70. Old School Dave:

    Funny story from the late Bo Schembelchler:

    Initial contact with recruit: "Oh my god, Coach Schembelchler? It's an honor to meet you sir."

    A few months along the recruiting process: "Hey Bo, how ya doing?"


  71. G (China):

    Mack was more than a good guy. He was a winner. He won two WAC titles. He had great wins. He produced NFL talent. The success he saw in 2010 had a direct impact on being able to be in the MWC.

    Mack was more than a player's coach. He had the appreciation and loyalty of those he coached previously. He was staunchly supported by his contemporaries.

    Mack was more than fair. He was gracious. He took a voluntary pay cut even though the writing was on the wall. When the rug was pulled under him, he didn't say anything bad. If anything you never heard how he felt things were unfair.

    Mack was more than pc. He was an innovator. He brought in Jr. Days. Gave a voice for women to be involved. He brought bright young minds in Aranda and what's his name. He always gave them credit publicly.

    Having said that, this is Coach Chow's time. What he is doing in my opinion is changing the culture that took 13 years to establish. It takes time and having the right people to do it is going to be hard. 13 years of run and shoot days are behind us. In front of us is a lot of possibility. Chow will have his time to develop a culture that recruits Hawaii first, recruits year round, so that his approach of chasing championships can be realized.


  72. Ipu Man:

    ...but if the qb can't run and dodge onrushing linemen, all hope is lost.
    Period.


  73. Ipu Man:

    Why do you think the 49ers are so in love with humperdink...


  74. wasabi:

    UH- Mac never went 3-9 at UH....this coach has yet to prove he can do better than that.


  75. turfwar:

    Well said G!


  76. Abunai:

    #49

    I know we had those but should've could've would've but we didnt. That's my point. Had and we got them is two different things. Like I said I wanted one more DT and DE.


  77. Abunai:

    Wasabi

    If I'm not mistaken JJ went 3-9. And people here are saying he's the most successful coach at UH. Give coach Chow a chance.


  78. Philosoraptor:

    iF pEOplE aRe so concerNeD abouT WhaT the cOach NOw haS to proVe in the PreseNt, tHen why keeP comparing to paSt coacHes of YesTerdAy?


  79. Madie Macanas:

    This is a very nice article. Thanks for sharing it. How long have you been running this blog?


  80. wasabi:

    77- that was directed toward UH who always bashes Mac while pumping up Chow. If and when he proves Chow more successful than Mac, I might believe it. Hoping Chow can hold together a cohesive team. That will be a huge key to his success. I hope he pulls it off.


  81. Derek:

    In my opinion, I don't think McMackin's recruits were top shelf. Many of his recruits were not Division IA (FBS) talent. One QB from Arizona left after 2 years due to injuries and when healthy he didn't smell a game. Corey Nielson, bless his heart, stayed 3 years, hardly played and then went to a Divsion II or Division III school, St. Francis, somewhere. David Graves didn't even play last year and likely won't play much this season either. His best recruit probably is Alex Green. But, it's all moot at this point. I met Greg McMackin a couple of times and he's a genuine nice person, easy to talk too. It's just too bad, in this business it's all about getting good recruits to help the team be successful. What do you think, Jeezy33 and Al? I think Chow's staff is doing a lot better in getting more good players for the program. I am encouraged to see how the young guys do on the field. USC is for the talking this year at home. We will see how far we are after that game.


  82. wasabi:

    81- a few of those Mac recruits were immediately picked up by D-1 programs. I guess we'll get to see their talent playing against UH...


  83. G (China):

    78. I agree. However, I can smell stink a mile away and there is stink on the blog that I use to love coming to.


  84. NotNasti:

    Mac may have been a nice guy, but he was not head coach material. His disorganization showed. His coaches were near mutiny during his last year. And he was nuts, literally.


  85. hightide:

    If coaches coached to prevent injuries the team will win. Chow's first year all the Oline and Dline players were injured not to mention Line Bs and receivers. It is as simple as that.


  86. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    What happened to Tom Mui? Haven't been around for several days so I am not aware of what's going on. In any case, good luck, Tom, and look forward to seeing you again.

    CHANGE OF SUBJECT #1: We have two tickets for this Saturday's baseball game - we'll be at the Wahine basketball game's Senior Night. If you would like the tickets, please send me an e-mail with your (real) name and a daytime phone number to swood at hoku dot com.

    CHANGE OF SUBJECT #2: I purchased a Mac desktop nearly two months ago but it is still sitting in the box because I have not been able to find anyone who can help me transfer my word processing and e-mail files (WordPerfect and Eudora) from the PC to the Mac. I cannot just dump them because I am still using them - especially the WordPerfect - aand have been for over 20 years.

    I've tried to find someone at the Apple Store in Ala Moana and at Mac Made Easy, but they are not able to help me out. If you have any recommendations, please send me the information to the above e-mail address. Mahalo.

    CHANGE OF SUBJECT #3: I am going through the first draft of the State Budget bill - HB 200 - which will be heard for the first time before the House Finance Committee at 2 pm tomorrow. It's over 150 pages long.

    However, I have not yet found a single proposed item to address the Capital Improvement Project upgrades at either Aloha Stadium or the Department of Athletics at UH-Manoa.

    With respect to the Stadium Facilities Special Fund which was passed in 2012, it is very likely to die unless someone steps in to address the issue of removing it from the about-2-b-repealed Public Land Development Corporation to another state department. The Stadium Fund was administratively attached to the PLDC although all the decisions were kept with the Stadium Authority.


  87. Moocher:

    77
    correct.....

    but you will never hear "those people" say that JJ went 3-9 in his second year, chow went 3-9 in his first...which means we can bring forth the argument that chow is a year ahead of JJ.

    Coach Mac had an inherited plug-n-play system which in my opinion was on the border of making leaps and bounds with aranda and rolo or would fall off a cliff. we will never know.

    Despite all of this, it goes to show wins are not enough, only a part of it. you need to have a sellable, marketable program. JJ sold the program with the offense, wins, excitement, color changes, name changes, vili, etc. and espn and the nation bought it....and right now we are reeling all that back.

    chow has said time and time again this is not an exciting offense. color changes are no more, vili is no more, the only things left are the name warriors and wins are no guarantee. where's all the other extras to make the program sellable and marketable? it cannot be on wins alone.


  88. Bowwar:

    84: Pretty bold comments...I hope you have supporting evidence to back it up.

    I didn't see much improvement in "organization" in Chow's first year either and he didn't have to "inherit" a staff like Mac did. In fact, until Chow can show that he can "coach" kids to play up to their potential, then the jury remains out on him.


  89. Bowwar:

    71: Very well stated China...It's all said and done, I just wish people would leave Mac alone and not compare him to Chow. Mac was a "decent" person who really tried his best to maintain and elevate the program. He didn't do it to everyone's satisfaction, so he was let go...

    Let Chow show what he can/cannot do. Again, Chow needs to "coach up" if he expects to see his players perform and chase championships.


  90. Whats up:

    McMackin was a great person and great Defensive Coordinator without a doubt. He was just left a lot to be desired (Game Mismanagements, calling timeouts at the wrong time, losing to powerhouse programs in 2011 like UNLV, SJSU, Utah State (at home), blow out losses to Notre dame, Wisconsin, Tulsa on national TV, I could go on and on) for a $1.2 million dollar a year head coach that made just as much or more than Boise State's Chris Peterson from 2008 to 2011. Add the fact the Hawaii was having Furlough's during the period and Mack didn't take a significant paycut to help the State/University but rather a really minor one that was more like a small charitible donation. Plus, Mack followed in the foot steps of a 2007 Sugar Bowl season head coach June Jones and didn't have change much of anything but had the luxury of recruiting off of that 2007 Sugar Bowl nation lime light seasons success. But McMackin did alot of good things at the University of Hawaii as well, just was not a successful $1.2 million a year and over the past 4 years he made $4.4 million plus the retirement agreement of $550,000 to equal $5 million total D1 level head coach. Hawaii came from a 2007 Sugar Bowl head coach to a head coach with 1 shared WAC championship in 2010 and 3 disappointing seasons 2008, 2009, 2011 with blowout losses and only paid $5 million for those 4 years. It's time to move on from the soft, cookies and milk days of over paid McMackin. McMackin never had the pedigree, National Name recognition, national media respect of a June Jones or Norm Chow. Chow is a Hawaii native "Local Boy" that cares about Hawaii and is not taking Hawaii to the bank for all he has to offer.

    For example, Chow is getting paid $550,000 (which in 5 years will total around $2.5 million and thats half of what McMackin made in a only 4 years as head coach) with incentives and is recruiting with a 2011 6-7 team and 2012 3-9 team. The recruits mainland and local boys that Chow and his staff are bringing in are outstanding. The recruits are commiting early, I mean very early now and that the type of recruits (Marrel Jackson, Nequan Phillips, Jerol Garcia Williams, Steven Lakalaka, Kiha Sai, Kennedy Tuilimaseali, Afoga Wily, Aaron Zwahlen, John Wa'a (Very early commit) to name a few that have commited already and the 2014 very early commits Manly Williams, Daniel Lewis and (soft verbal) Fitou Fishiiahi add transfers like Taylor Graham and I impressed. Chow hired some quality coaches that can recruit, he kept Tony Tuioti which was smart. Now I know a lot of folks are going to say that not keeping Aranda and Rolo was crazy and I tend to agree with those of you. But that was Chow's call and we will see how that plays out in the future. But lets keep in mind that Chow is overhauling the entire program and this past season he had to use the holdover players that where recruited for the RnS offense, not the Prostyle offense. Now the hold over defensive players are still studs McMackin and Aranda knew how to recruit defensive players and Chow, Kaumeyer, Demo, Tuioti are just adding or even upping the talent level on defense with there own recruits. New coaches, AD, Conference (MWC), new recruits, new offense, defense and special teams systems, new no nonsense discplinary system, it's alot! It's going to take a few years for everything to work and the Warriors get back to winning a lot of games again.

    Next season 2013 I expect another not so great season with maybe 4-5 wins (No Bowl Game) with the defense leading the charge and the offense still needing to mesh a little more with a possible QB change to Taylor Graham. And it is comforting to know that we have the tough heart of a champion Sean Schoreder in the QB mix as well. But with Mike Edwards gone the CB play is going to be huge with this type of defense. I'm hopeful but not expecting much next season, if they do better than I expect then awesome, if not, only Chow's 2nd season and are still going to have some grown pains. In my opinion the 2014 season will be much better with the players and recruits in the 3rd year and really starting to grasp the new offensive and defensive systems. They should be playing faster and not thinking/second guessing themselves by 2014 and beyond. Plus, QB Taylor Graham and the O line should be improved by 2014, I hope the injury bug goes away too! It's way too early to tell if Norm Chow is the man to take Hawaii football back to the Sugar Bowl glory days but I'm hopeful and excited for the future of Hawaii Warrior Football.


  91. Abunai:

    #87

    This is a very different offense then the RnS. Which I know you know. Chow and company doesn't have what it takes to make the offense run smooth. But in year one and two in recruiting you are seeing more of the recruits that is needed to run this offense. Bigger taller WR, TEs and OL. In the RnS offense that we had in 2011 we had smaller WRs no TEs and more pass blocking OL. We need that grind and pound type of offensive lineman. That big and tall WR. And we didn't have a TE period. Defense did good enough to win games but it's hard to win games when your offense goes three and out as much as we did. At times you could see what this offense can do if we had the correct recruits and teach them well to get the job done. And I firmly believe it will be either Chows third year or fourth.


  92. SteveM:

    alnbama:
    March 5th, 2013 at 10:47 am
    Hey Mr A-house, that was the ideal situation to sit with other Tsaiko's, but can can, no can no can. At the least maybe get chance to say Hello to everyone before or after the game.

    As usual, I'm tracking the away-game Tsai-kos at:
    http://home.roadrunner.com/~smurashi/tsai-kos/away13.html

    Data is scant without the MWC dates known yet , but whatever is posted here on the blog or emailed to me will be added to the above page. I will email the attendees prior to each game to ensure that everyone can establish their own game site comms net as desired.


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  99. RB:

    Funny how after Kwamane Bowens commits to Hawaii all these schools are after him. Just hope he is true to his word and signs with Hawaii.

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  104. al:

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  105. al:

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    he chose to keep and hire whom he wished to keep.


  106. Bleed Green:

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  107. al:

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  108. al:

    what i do like about chow is that he is unafraid to make the tough call in spite of critical public opinion from the arm chair quarterbacks and expert pundits regarding player evaluations and coach-shuffling.


  109. jeezy33:

    81. I think you got it right. Offensively, Chow is bringing in guys that Mack couldn't. How he develops them is key. Most of our assistant coaches were graduate assistants with Chow at UCLA so its real hard to know how good they are at developing guys. I think Powell and Tuioti are solid guys for the defense. I wasn't pleased with O line but we brought in Naeole so thats good news.

    Talent is definitely a lot better thought in recruiting. No disrespect to Mack recruits but don't really know if they were D1 caliber. Thomas Olds, Ijumaa Armstrong, Kendrick Van Ackeran, Afusia were all under sized tweeners. I thought Olds was going to be good but I got too caught up into his highlight film without really knowing how small he was. We also recruited slow O linemen under Mack. The QB recruits were definitely questionable. Top 3 QBs at Hawaii were walk ons. Moniz, Austin, Jantz.


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    if you got ahi-great, you win. if you got seasonings to go along with that ahi, you still win, but now more people will come, follow, and join. all i'm saying is what can the marketing department do to spice things up?

    #91
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    otherwise you can easily argue in year 2 of JJ he went 3-9 with 2 recruiting classes. Chow went 3-9 in his first year with 1 year of recruiting. the point is, give it time before comparing and live in the now because this can be an incredible time for the program if we back it up. we all backed up jj in year 1, that was easy to do after 0-12 the year before and jj produced in the years ahead...and so will chow-in the years ahead.
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  115. Philosoraptor:

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  117. kapakahi:

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    Must've forgot about these former Govs who are now Warriors.....OLB #51 Lancelot "Keke" Williams & FB #48 Justin Vele.....along with Class of 2014 early verbal commit OLB/S Manly "Pumba" Williams (Keke's younger bro).

    Other potential Class of 2014 Governor prospects.....
    - RB/OLB Syndreck Dsio (Farrington)
    - DT Nolan Eseroma (Farrington)
    - DL Moto Heimuli (Farrington)
    - WR/CB Jacob McEnroe (Farrington)
    - OT/DL Mason Semisi (Farrington)


  118. Aaron:

    LOL... any time someone mentions Mack's mental capacity in or the morale of the coaching staff during Mack's last season, someone will say "I hope you have proof..." Well, who's gonna have "proof" ? No one is going to come out publicly and confirm this (other than the Graves interview, which was disregarded by those who didn't want to hear it), but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen. This is a small island, and people talk. Those who don't believe that this is the biggest reason that UH struggled in 2011 just need to look at the successes of Mack's former assistants at their new jobs (Rolo, Aranda, and even Miano). There were great coaches on that staff, but they had to work around Mack in 2011 instead of working with him.

    Mack's biggest crimes were simply getting older and having too good of an agent.


  119. Derek:

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  120. kapakahi:

    #81,

    Don't forget the Andrew Manley recruiting fiasco was mishandled.

    Kinda ironic that Chow (then as the UCLA OC) contacted then NMSU Aggie HC (and former UCLA DC) DeWayne Walker about Manley.


  121. kapakahi:

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  122. kapakahi:

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    2.Larry Tuileta QB - Punahou
    3.Kanawai Noa WR - Punahou
    4.PJ Luia TB - Kahuku
    5.Kahoalii Karratti QB - Konawaena
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    8.Dayton Furuta RB - Mililani
    9.Chazz Troutman QB - Nanakuli
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  132. gobows:

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  133. TMx808:

    2012 Final High School Player Overall Rankings:

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    2. Abraham Silva RB - Farrington
    3. Larry Tuileta QB - Punahou
    4. Jarrin Morikawa QB - Mililani
    5. Kanawai Noa WR - Punahou
    6. Tyler Taumua RB - Farrington
    7. Reece Foy QB - Iolani
    8. Ekolu Ramos WR - Mililani
    9.John Kamoku RB - Konawaena
    10.Adam Noga RB - Saint Louis
    Top OL:
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    Reeve Koehler - St Louis
    Charles Sataraka - Farrington
    Semisi Uluave - Punahou
    Mitchell Boyd - Farrington

    Top Defense Overall:
    1.Kennedy Tulimasealii DT - Waianae
    2.Kawehena Johnson S - Kahuku
    3.Kuj Tapusoa LB - Kahuku
    4.Issac Savaiinaea LB - Punahou
    5.Solomon Leano LB - Campbell
    6.Shaun Kagawa DB - KSK-Big Island
    7.Ualesi Sale DE - Aiea
    8.Dakota Turner DL - Mililani
    9.Toiva Tufaga DL - Kahuku
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  135. gobows:

    #133

    you left off scott pagano from moanalua, a clemson recruit. he's probably #1 or #2 defensively. he had one of the more impressive highlight tapes. exceptional quickness.


  136. gobows:

    #133

    you left off jeremy tabuyo from st louis, he was good enough for texas a&m.


  137. gobows:

    #133

    i also thought jeremiah taleni of kailua was one of the top defensive linemen in the state.

    wish charles sataraka would end up at the UH, he was really impressive, especially against waianae.


  138. SteveM:

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    #92...gee whiz stevem...almost sounds like you are stalking.

    Whatever is posted on a blog (any blog) is public information. Some compilations are helpful--especially to the attendees. Been doing this since the first Tsai-ko UH-UNLV game in 2007.

    Don't worry Al, I'm a pro stalker and have my standards. :)

    This reminds me of the well-known Tsai-ko who posts here often who was at a UH road game and was waving frantically at mainland Tsai-kos in the same section--but was ignored. He was bummed. I had to politely remind him since he requested absolutely no photo of him from Blog Parties or Karaoke Calls be posted, how would the mainland Tsai-kos he was waving at know who he was? :|

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    2013=0
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    2011=1 LB Justin Vele (Hawaii)
    2010=1 DL VJ Fehoko (Utah)
    2009=0
    2008=0
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  145. Former UH Athlete:

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  148. Shoko:

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    Appears Wisconsin head coach Gary Anderson (former Utah State HC) has lost his ST/TE coach after only two months on the job.

    Anderson's reaction to his departure?

    "It’s disappointing. It’s upsetting, I brought the wrong guy in here. We’ll be better off as we move forward. It is my responsibility to get the coaches in here. I don’t like the timing of it. I don’t like the situation that we’re in at all."

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    He steals Nevada's ST/RB coach who has been on the job for two months...lol!

    http://blogs.rgj.com/packblog/2013/03/05/report-wolf-pack-loses-special-teamsrunning-backs-coach-to-wisconsin/


  149. Shoko:

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  152. gobows:

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  153. gobows:

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    how come football players from farrington lack ambition to further their education?


  154. gobows:

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    why did you limit your list to only FBS schools. your list is misleading. get many football players from hawaii schools going to college, and had a few from farrington. why you no acknowledge the guys from farrington that earned a football scholarship? why you only care about D1? you part of the problem, not the solution.


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