Making light

April 16th, 2013
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Question: How many UH maintenance workers does it take to change a lightbulb?

Answer: None. Maintenance workers aren't authorized to change lightbulbs, according to three people familiar with the subject.

It's no joke.

Because of rules, contract languages and several things that fall under "etcetera," custodians and maintenance workers are not permitted to change lightbulbs in the athletic department. It has something to do with job description, liability and ladders. We're told UH restricts certain employees from working on  projects involving use of a ladder higher than 6 feet. Because a worker can stand only as high as the fourth rung without risking falling over, that puts the ceiling out of reach, thus ... well, you can do the math.

Besides, UH custodians don't even have access to lightbulbs, we're told.

A work order requesting a person from the electrical department is required.

* * * * *

The Warriors ran a reverse for today's 10th practice of spring training.

The team drills were first, followed by the position drills.

"We wanted to shake it up a little bit," UH coach Norm Chow said.

It appeared to work, with the Warriors having the liveliest scrimmage-like drills of the spring. Running back Steven Lakalaka, who desperately needed a big play, scored on a 37-yard run to end the period.

* * * * *

There were a couple of switches on defense. Benny Fonua moved to strong-side linebacker, enabling him to align across the tight end.

Kamalani Alo moved to middle linebacker in the base package. He has played in the middle in sub-packages, such as nickel schemes, but not the base defense.

Both Fonua and Alo were impressive in workouts.

* * * * *

Happy birthday, WaFan

465 Responses to “Making light”

  1. rage777:

    Typical labor union rules, what is the story?


  2. rage777:

    And State rules.


  3. AlaWai:

    2. Are all AD employees restricted from climbing the ladder?


  4. Old Diver:

    Hmm, maybe I can use that same excuse at home when my wife wants me to change the lightbulb.


  5. LK:

    Hire Davis Rozitis for the day.


  6. Stephen Tsai:

    I suppose somebody could be a maverick and change the lightbulbs on his/her own.


  7. gobows:

    wahine lead 2-0 after 1


  8. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Restrictions probably has something to do with worker's comp, etc.

    At least the UH buildings (I hope) don't have asbestos like Kinau Hale (DOH). Takes forever to get a light bulb changed in that building.

    GO WAHINE!


  9. Chicken Grease:

    Can ask Abercrombie what they do. He used to do that jo (maybe not w/the state or UH, but, a Grease understands that he did that job).

    Ohayoooooooooogozaimasu!!!!

    Pray for Boston, continue.

    Remember Virginia Tech (6th anniversary of the tragedy, today)

    If there's a short cut I'd have found it
    But there is no easy way around it

    Light of the world, shine on me
    Love is the answer
    Shine on us all
    Set us free
    Love is the answer

    - England Dan and John Ford Coley


  10. PolyMom:

    Was this to make folks mad at unions?


  11. Chicken Grease:

    Whew!!! Grease JUST made top 10 ;) .


  12. Stephen Tsai:

    Actually, the custodians don't mind changing lightbulbs. They used to do that.
    But rules are rules.


  13. madeinhawaii:

    Maybe they should install sconces instead with the bulbs no higher than 7 feet.... Probably save a ton on light bulb replacement... of course, CFL's with their mercury content pose life threatening dangers...


  14. (Jesse) James:

    Happy Birthday Wafan!!!!

    Yep, that is a rule across the board in the State...not just at UH. Governor Cayetano complained about that as well when he wanted a lightbulb changed in his office and ended up doing it himself.


  15. chawan_cut:

    let there be dark (shaded in red.... tape). the question should be, how much paper does it take to change a light bulb?


  16. rage777:

    Any news on the S&C coach?


  17. jm2375:

    :oops: Happy Birthday wafan!! 29 again?


  18. gigi-hawaii:

    Thank goodness my hubby is tall enough to change the ceiling lights in the kitchen!

    But he's good for other things, too. Like vacuuming.


  19. richfromoc:

    I wanted to move my work computer to the other side of the desk but needed to create a work order to do it. I did it myself but was told to not to do it again because it was not my job to do so. I learned my lesson so I move things around without telling anyone.


  20. Chicken Grease:

    madeinhawaii:
    April 16th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Maybe they should install sconces instead

    Think they'd end up EATING those scones instead. A Grease knows HE would (and a Grease no custodian or janitor, mind you, least you know this about a Grease). Love the blueberry/cream cheese ones. One of best inventions ever. ;)


  21. Chicken Grease:

    And yappari tanjoubi*, wafan!!!!

    ______________________________________

    * "happy birthday" in the Japanese language.


  22. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Light bulbs.
    I just had a deja vu moment.
    In the 70's I worked for a very large institution...in the subsidiary corp that managed the property and premises throughout the state. The President decided that light bulbs/tubes should be removed throughout to conserve energy. Since I was a science teacher (go figure) I was directed to select which fixtures were to be disabled and have the bulbs removed (around 20 floors in two buildings). A pair of custodians were assigned to me.

    Of course, the custodians inform me that they were not allowed to remove or install light bulbs and that such requests were to go to the building superintendent. After a "my president speaks to your president" discussion, it was agreed that my office had authority and jurisdiction to touch anything in our areas....but not the custodians.

    So, the custodians carried the ladder, climbed up and opened the diffuser panels for me, but I had to physically remove the flourescent tubes. When I handed it down to them, they didn't want to be seen with it, but I told them it was now trash--and they were authorized to remove trash, right? :|


  23. cheepono:

    who enforces these ridiculous rules? and what can be done to change it?


  24. SteveM:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY WAFAN !!!


  25. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    I'm not sure if the contract has changed from the time President McClain was there but there was never a mention of the "6-foot" rule in the contract.

    Professor McClain was a guest lecturer at my class a few weeks ago and told us this story. When requesting to clean some ventilation ducts or something at one of the UHAD gyms, maintenance department gave McClain the same excuse. He had his staffers look into the UPW contract and saw no clause to that effect...It was cleaned.


  26. Last Call:

    Ben Jay was on fire on twitter, not happy,seems frustrated with not being able to get simple things done.


  27. gobows:

    wahine lead 4-0 btm 4th. kayla 2r hr scoring kelly. kelly and kayla both with 2 runs.


  28. Chicken Grease:

    Wow. A Grease would've thunk that in a nice bureaucracy that this place has (bureaucracy that a few [or more?(?)] Just love -- yes, love), "da workahs" would've waited until specific language was put in to do just that cleaning of ducts. Oh, well, maybe it's being worked on now (along with other language to make simple cleaning difficult to request). Preserve the state constitution, now; it's best for growth.


  29. Rodney:

    What's wrong with UH?
    Let me count the ways!!


  30. Chicken Grease:

    Last Call:
    April 16th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Ben Jay was on fire on twitter, not happy,seems frustrated with not being able to get simple things done.

    This is great. If he limits his response to twitter, he'll just end as UHADs o'the past repackaged. He oughtta fire some people. That should start getting things done. Man-in-charge. He oughtta be able to fire people, even just to scare the rest. Another reason why UH athletics better hope a Grease never becomes UHAD.


  31. gobows:

    #27
    it's a shame, wonder if he would still take the job if he new about the "hawaii way"


  32. gobows:

    tweet from @HawaiiManoaAD:

    How can you taste success when you don't aspire to be the best? How many times have I heard "that's Hawaii" or people here don't like change


  33. gobows:

    kelly 2b, kayla rbi single. wahine lead 5-0, 1 out top 6th.


  34. jm2375:

    RIP Pat Summerall.


  35. Stephen Tsai:

    Ben Jay went off about lightbulbs.
    He said he was going to go to Home Depot, buy some lightbulbs, and install them himself.
    Then he confirmed he was in Irvine and that would be a project for another day.


  36. Chicken Grease:

    Heh, gobows, where did a Grease graudate? Not an egg farm. Chicken came before egg (and how, bwwahahahaha).


  37. Last Call:

    This one caught my eye.

    "What do recruit parents think when they see junk lying around, wallpapers falling off, landscaping unkept & overgrown." "They don't care"

    I assume the quote "They don't care" is directed at UH employees .


  38. tom mui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    And a bright day and birthday to WAFAN!


  39. Slugger:

    Hi, gangeez!

    Happy BIRTHDAY, WAFan!


  40. gobows:

    cal's wr keenan allen supposedly came up positive on a drug test at the combine. how far out of the top 10 will he drop?
    http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/04/16/could-cals-keenan-allen-now-be-available-to-the-49ers/


  41. Slugger:

    Oh, oh, oh ...

    I know, I know...

    According to OSHA safety regs, if you are standing on a surface over 6 ft. high, you need a safety harness. Now, I know that applies to roofs, but ladders? HeeHee


  42. Slugger:

    Going to see Curveball on Friday. Send your Aloha.


  43. gobows:

    #35 ST

    thought it was weird how he got back from the big west meetings so quick. 1st home depot, then he wanted to know directions to city mill.

    #36 CG

    near kahuku? home schooled?


  44. Stephen Tsai:

    It seems there are a lot of wink-wink rules.
    For instance, there are signs posted against climbing "Stairway to Heaven." But if they really wanted to prohibit its use, they could simply dismantle it. But they don't.


  45. Stephen Tsai:

    gobows:
    It's like a Hawaii Five-O episode: McGarrett is on Kalauaka, he makes a left and he's on Kamehameha Highway.


  46. Stephen Tsai:

    It threw me off when his original tweet said: "Walking around ..."
    I'm like, darn, that guy puts in some late hours.


  47. Kevin:

    They won't dismantle the Haiku Stairs... they spent over $800,000.00 to renovate it several years ago..


  48. Rodney:

    Maybe they could raise the floor then use ladder!!!


  49. midnight:

    Happy birthday, Wafan!


  50. Steve P:

    Its what I've suspected all along. Morons are in charge of the University of Hawaii....


  51. Otto:

    Depending on the type of light bulbs, once you remove the old ones, they become hazardous waste and must be stored and disposed of properly. So institutions as waste generators need to track it. Thonk about that the next time you break a CFL bulb in your kid's bedroom and contaminate it with mercury vapor...


  52. A-House:

    "grease":

    how easy is it to "fire" a union worker in Hawaii?

    besides, you need tons of backup paper work identifying counseling and setting goals/objectives and getting said employee to "sign" on the dotted line, etc. to meet Fed requirements

    the "good ole days" are long gone!


  53. Independent Thinker:

    Looking forward to Lakalaka carrying the rock this year. Should be exciting.

    Hope Jeremy will continue to making positive strides whenever he is given reps. Happy to hear he has more zip in his passes.


  54. RedZone:

    maybe he is tweet walking?


  55. A-House:

    We used to live near the "stairs to heaven" and it was a parking mess during weekends and not to mention the rubbish left behind by folks and their breaking up fences, trees, etc.

    Yes, it's easy to talk about people using the "steps", but like so many projects - "not in my back yard"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  56. A-House:

    Poor Mr. Jay who is only starting to learn how things are done in Hawaii.

    Let's see how long this battle lasts - fight the unions, eh?


  57. lowtone123:

    How many state workers does it take to change a lightbulb in a state facility? Too many. In other news, Steven Wright was called up to the Red Sox today.


  58. Stephen Tsai:

    Al Noga has been serving as an "observer" this spring.
    He can answer questions, if asked. It's nice when UH's defensive linemen can receive free advice from a former All-America player.


  59. gobows:

    kristina homers in 7th, wahine win 8-1. kaia 6 inn, 5 h, 1 er, 9 k, 0 w, 1 hbp. not sure if loie kesterson pitched the 7th.


  60. Chicken Grease:

    jm2375:
    April 16th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    RIP Pat Summerall.

    Holy cannoli. Didn't realize her condition was so bad.

    Greatness runs the risk of burning itslef out; but, what a sacrifice. Great wins brokered by that great woman.

    Heh, A-House. They CAN get fired and someone like Ben Jay better be primed to do it. Gotta implement the "Eliot Ness" effect, stir the $#17storm ("X" in JFK). No be scared. This state's gonna need someone like that lest we sink ourselves into the ocean before it physically happens.


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  62. gobows:

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  63. gobows:

    #60 CG

    summerall not summit. football announcer, not basketball coach. oops.


  64. greased chicken:

    oops


  65. Philosoraptor:

    dont do drugs people.


  66. Stephen Tsai:

    No. 61:
    There's a fee to read this blog? Heeeey. Where's my cut?


  67. Philosoraptor:

    If Ben Jay comes from a public, NOT PRIVATE, institution in Ohio and comes across another public, NOT PRIVATE, institution in Hawaii and gets frustrated.. what does that say?

    Seriously. what does that say?


  68. Pacheco:

    Sadly, I often see UH maintenance people with their bags in hand, ready to go, waiting for the clock to hit 2:30 M-F.

    I knew someone who once taught at Manoa, who actually had to get down and shovel mud out of his classrooms after the Manoa Stream flooded the campus back in 2004. Maintenance people stood by and watched.


  69. Mangoman:

    If Kamalani Alo is moved to the middle, then where does Brenden Daley play? 2nd string middle or moves to WSLB?


  70. Stephen Tsai:

    Daley is still in the middle.
    They're giving people different looks.
    Jerrol Garcia-Williams had a terrific scrimmage the other day. Then today, he was doing rolls. He'll be back, of course, but that gave Benny Fonua work at strong.


  71. Old School Dave:

    Is Benny Fonua going to delay going on his church mission? Could definitely use him at linebacker. You can always go serve on a mission after graduating from college.


  72. duffer:

    @ CG

    Her?


  73. Chicken Grease:

    gobows:
    April 16th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    #60 CG

    summerall not summit. football announcer, not basketball coach. oops.

    Holy God. Apologies.

    I am humbled. I will say a prayer. Especially for myself.


  74. Chicken Grease:

    But. Despite all.


  75. Chicken Grease:

    A Grease is # 75.


  76. Chicken Grease:

    :)


  77. rage777:

    It's the mangoman!!! I haven't seen you in a long time. The question I always wanted to ask you is, how heavy is your hair? It looks solid, but hard to tell.


  78. Buffoman:

    The way to resolve the light bulb changing situation is to have UH hire two lawyers to give contrary advice to the light bulb changer. Bring cameras to record the entire effort. This way when the light bulb changer or union decides the sue the UH all parties would be ready for trial and thus save tons of unnecessary funds in delays to prepare for the trial.

    Now that would expedite things. Again, another brilliant suggestion for a more efficiently run system. How hard is that?


  79. Mr Buttermaker:

    Public school light bulb replacement...I've got that beat.

    I'm a Jr High PE teacher in California. About a month ago, I wanted to replace two basketball nets on our outdoor courts. So I grab the six foot ladder before school and climb my up to the 10ft rims and replace both nets in about a total of 5 minutes without incident or injury.

    Later the same day (no joke) one of our district work trucks pulling a cherry picker behind it shows up to campus. They back the cherry picker up towards the boys locker room building, which took about 3-4 tries to get the cherry picker positioned just right. Apparently they were there to change a light bulb on the outside of the locker room building which is about 10ft high. They start to lower the outriggers to stabilize the cherry picker and I noticed that one of the outriggers landed on top of a plastic sprinkler valve cover. I'm watching this as my PE class is playing basketball. One of the workers gets in the cherry picker harnesses himself to the basket for safety and starts to raise the basket. About 3 seconds later, the outrigger busts through the plastic valve cover and the whole unit lurched to the right at an angle and almost tipped the worker out of the basket! He was only like six feet off the ground but I'm sure he was happy he was tethered to the basket. The kicker was they couldn't raise the outrigger cuz it got wedged in there really good. They had to call out additional district personnel, equipment and resources to get the cherry picker un-stuck about two hours later!!! I couldn't help but shake my head and laugh my okole off thinking that if they just asked me to do it with my 6ft ladder it all would've been done in about 5 minutes...just precious!


  80. soljah808:

    That is so silly to hear regarding the changing of lightbulbs. Thank you for inquiring about it though.

    You should have asked......Does the Electrical Department monitor the lights and change them out........or they only act upon something when a work order is generated?

    Apparently those burnt out lights that Ben Jay was mentioning via twitter has been like that for quite a while. So I'm guessing they don't budge until a work order is generated. Which in that case.............what the hell do they do for the rest of the time they are on the clock?


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  82. stinky tree:

    the tree in front of Hamilton's entrance is in full bloom. if you want to see it,
    go there now, it won't last much longer.

    after that, you will be able to smell the tree.


  83. state non-worker:

    80.soljah808:
    April 16th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    That is so silly to hear regarding the changing of lightbulbs.

    ....what the hell do they do for the rest of the time they are on the clock?

    .
    .
    .

    eh, soljah808: we do what we do .....

    heh heh heh


  84. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    A quick glance at the light bulb graphic, and I assumed someone in the UH system had come up with a bright idea... *tsigh*


  85. d1shima:

    SMH


  86. d1shima:

    DPK,

    Someone did.

    The Unions...


  87. d1shima:

    Homecoming Game announced!

    http://www.hawaiiathletics.com/news/2013/4/16/FB_0416135429.aspx?path=football&hq_e=el&hq_m=459289&hq_l=9&hq_v=71241a5450

    Retro Night vs San Diego State? As long as no one dresses up like Marshall Faulk!

    :evil: :shock: :twisted:


  88. primo123:

    60. Chicken Grease......Pat Summerall is a guy.

    are you thinking about Pat Summit? She's still alive.....


  89. Rodney:

    One word unions!!!!!!!!!!!
    I'm a member,but what can I say!!!


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  91. Mangoman:

    ST, thank you for the update.


  92. Chicken Grease:

    primo123:
    April 16th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    60. Chicken Grease......Pat Summerall is a guy.

    are you thinking about Pat Summit? She's still alive.....

    A Grease knows, I know, I know. gobows corrected me (search for a Grease's "Holy God" mea culpa post, above). I stand corrected. OK? :) . God bless.


  93. Chicken Grease:

    Oh, we reaching post # 100.


  94. alleyezonme808:

    Not unions, a liability issue.


  95. Chicken Grease:

    Can a Grease procure post #s 75 AND 100 ON THE SAME DAY?!?!?


  96. Chicken Grease:

    Oh, yes.


  97. Chicken Grease:

    E'ryone in traffic?


  98. Chicken Grease:

    Late 90s.


  99. Chicken Grease:

    Hyaku


  100. Chicken Grease:

    Got 100.


  101. Chicken Grease:

    A Grease is the man.


  102. Chicken Grease:

    A Grease in union, too. Just think . . . it's a bubble ready to burst.

    100. AND 75. Give it up for a Grease.

    Go WARRIORS!!!!!!!


  103. primo123:

    gREASE YOUR ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE TODAY..............


  104. primo123:

    GREASE...TOO bad you missed 103....that's the BESTEST!...WOOHOO!


  105. Chicken Grease:

    Heh. A pun. For future reference, it is "you're" and not "your" for your intended usage above, primo123.

    - your friendly neighborhood Grease


  106. Chicken Grease:

    "103" IS a good #, "odd number good luck" and all, silly local colloquialisms, but mystically effective at times. Doesn't beat getting post # 100, though. :) . "There's always tomorrow" as li'l orphan Annie would say . . . or she said something like that. Getting all specifics regarding orange-redhead womens incorrect nowadays, please forgive. Honest mistake(s).

    I wish it were Warrior football season a'eady.


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  108. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Meanwhile, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BROTHER WAFAN!!!


  109. Philosoraptor:

    Dont do drugs, people.

    The symptoms of crack/cocaine abuse:

    There may be hallucinations and confusion. He will probably have trouble concentrating.

    If a person consumes too much crack, they can get into an overly-stimulated state.


  110. SteveM:

    Mr Buttermaker -- please share your city of residence with us... for classification as a No-Cal or Lo-Cal Tsai-ko. :) See

    http://home.roadrunner.com/~smurashi/tsai-kos/mainintpost.html

    Also, everyone.... with schedule known, who is planning to attend any of the road games this year? The Tsai-ko Away Game logistics and pah-tay planner is updated and posted at:

    http://home.roadrunner.com/~smurashi/tsai-kos/away13.html

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  112. Kekoa:

    So they should lay off the 'Maintenance Workers' and change the job titles to 'The Fix-it Folks'

    Out with the old State restrictions! The fresh new job description would include all those bulb and life changing duties originally intended for them to perform. Thus making room for real changes to be made.

    Pay incentives could be based on such items as the number of bulbs and other work orders successfully completed on a specified schedule.

    ...and for some reason, that reminds me to wish my Compadre - Wafan - a very Happy 29th Birthday!


  113. wafan:

    Good evening!


  114. wafan:

    Question: How many State of Hawai'i custodians/maintenance/ . . . workers does it take to change a light bulb?

    Answer 1: Ask BJ the AD.

    Answer 2: None. It is not their job.


  115. wafan:

    Thank you for the birthday wishes.

    It was a super day. The kids actually behaved!

    What a nice birthday present.

    Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!


  116. wafan:

    Kekoa . . .

    Give the Princess and Queen a hug for me, please.

    Remember to duck and watch out for the slippah!


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    Now if the Chancellor will only get on the same page as Mr. Jay, perhaps something finally can be done on the UH campus and in the Athletic facilities!


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  128. al:

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    on another note...#13

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    like a house is not a home.

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  129. Chicken Grease:

    al . . . um . . . unlike my "Pat Sum" mess up, a Grease, uh, knew the joke he was making, uh . . . with the, uh . . . "sconces" vs. "scones." Thanks for playing though.

    Also . . . don't make a Grease sing a karaoke-ist Vandross' A House is Not a Home ;) .


  130. Chicken Grease:

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  131. kapakahi:

    Finally.....Benny gets to play the position he's most familiar with.....and played throughout high school.


  132. Former UH Athlete:

    So maintenance can't change lightbulbs... can they at least refill the toilet paper once in a while?

    I can still re-call two instances in the ground floor bathroom, outside the lecture hall, where I dropped the Cosby kids off at the pool and no okole paper.

    --

    Getting back to the subject... what's stopping UH from providing those extender clamps (usually intended for elderly people that can't bend over to pick things up) to change the bulbs???

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