What's next for Manley?

May 8th, 2013
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Because of what's reported as a family situation, former Leilehua quarterback Andrew Manley has requested — and received — a release from his New Mexico State scholarship.

What's next for Manley, who will be a fourth-year junior this fall but might be eligible for an exemption allowing him to transfer without redshirting?

And do those plans involve UH?

* * * * *

While the search initiates for a successor to UH president MRC Greenwood, it is important to remember that her boss' job will be vacated first.

Eric Martinson's term as chairman of the Board of Regents expires next month. Unlike the president's search, the chair is selected from among the current regents by the current regents. With three departing, the pool contains 12 candidates. But there doesn't appear to be much jousting. While the chair is the most influential position in the UH system, it probably is the most thankless job. Here's the abbreviated specs: Long hours, no pay, lots of scrutiny. Any takers?

* * * * *

UH's football summer camps will be coming to a campus near you.

The $20 entry fee includes four hours of instruction, a T-shirt, lunch and insurance coverage.

Here are the camps for those entering grades 9-12:

• June 6 — Kamehameha Schools-Maui

• June 9 — Mililani High

• June 13 — Castle High

• June 14 — Hawaii Prep Academy

• June 15 — McKinley High

There will be a youth camp (grades K-8) on the UH campus on June 18-19. That camp's fee is $40 ($20 per day).

The itinerary for each camp is: Registration at 9 a.m., session from 10 a.m. to noon, lunch from noon to 1 p.m., session from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m.

For details, call (808) 956-6508.

* * * * *

Add running back Diocemy Saint Juste to the list of recruits who have met the requirements to play for the Warriors this season. Saint Juste arrives this summer.

A reminder: Saint Juste video

* * * * *

Remember former UH cornerback Lewis Walker?

After leaving UH, he attended Utah to be closer to his family in Salt Lake City.

He earned a degree there, and now he's on the move again — to play pro football in Sweden. The answer to many questions — there's football in Sweden? — can be found in Walker's journal, which can be found here: Journal.

320 Responses to “What's next for Manley?”

  1. Ron:

    Top 10!


  2. RichfromOC:

    I nominate retired State Auditor Marion Higa or retired City Auditor Les Tanaka.


  3. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    I don't think Mark Takai would want the job - but he apparently knows the in-and-outs of that UH maze.


  4. Stephen Tsai:

    Two-set process: First you have to become a Regent, then you get to be the chair.
    The next chair can only come from the current group.
    I do like the idea of a former auditor becoming a Regent.


  5. Abunai:

    Top five... I'm glad DSJ is coming here to play. I can't wait....


  6. mo808:

    Good Morning Folks!

    Happy to know that running back Diocemy Saint Juste will be joining the Warriors!

    Cool news ablout Lewis Walker!

    Have a good day everyone!


  7. Na Koa Mike:

    The Kauai Meet the Coach event is set for June 7th. Coaches Chow, Price and Naeole will be there. Click on the link for more info:

    http://www.nakoa.org/2013/05/kauai-meet-the-coach-set-for-june-7th/


  8. papajoe2:

    Good morning! Top 10?


  9. Stephen Tsai:

    Thanks for the update, Na Koa Mike.


  10. papajoe2:

    Good news about DSJ.


  11. tom-warriornation:

    Hawaii's first road game this year: need tickets for Oregon St. Sept. 7? trying to get sideline seats behind our team. email me at: tomkitaguchi@yahoo.com
    so far, only a small group going compared to USC last year.


  12. rage777:

    It would be funny if they nominated the UH student representative for the chairmanship. Was the BoR nominated by the legislature, or is that an elected position, or something else? Are there term limits, and Eric was termed out, or is he just retiring?

    That's some travel for the coaches, June 6 - Maui, June 7 - Kauai, June 9 Oahu.

    Why not some camps at Punahou or Kahuku? Do they just rotate schools?

    Too many questions today.


  13. green tea:

    we got a Marshall Faulk!!!!


  14. laulau head:

    St Juste!!!

    BEAT USC!!


  15. TMx701:

    Can Apple....Hire Rockne


  16. papajoe2:

    I mostly agree with moocher's #124 post on the old blog (which is still open, ST), about MCR Greenwood and RF overstepping JD's plan for UH's future in football by joining the MWC. UH already had a deficit and we negotiated to pay travel fees in the MWC. I personally wanted UH to go indy in football (I know scheduling would be a major problem but it can be worked out) so that we could set our own terms. We seem to be treated as low class citizens there.


  17. kkobi425:

    Any word on Kennedy T. meeting the requirements?


  18. Stephen Tsai:

    Martinson termed out as chair.
    He's got another year left on the board, but there are indications he might retire from the board, too.
    I think the televised hearings on the Wonder Blunder give people pause to serve as the unpaid leader of the university.


  19. Jesse(James):

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

    Top Twenty Five...Woo Hoo.


  20. Inyoface:

    Dang that boy can book it! I'm glad his video didn't have some Lil Wayne type soundtrack.


  21. Jesse(James):

    ST...So, maybe I should apply for the regents position....sounds like my job now....MWAAHAHAHAHAHA


  22. jeezy33:

    Demo compared St Juste style to Ray Rice this morning.


  23. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Welcome to Mr. Saint Juste.


  24. Otto:

    RE: Greenwood's retirement. For an interesting parallel, read the commentary into today's Tizer about the Univ of North Carolina president. He is leaving the school after having built up the research funding, new student applications, all kind of good academic stuff, etc. However, he is being forced out because of corruption in the athletics dept.


  25. BigWave96744:

    I wonder if the Sweden team is in the same league as Tyler Graunke's German Team.


  26. 3-Prong:

    DSJ, DSJ!!!!


  27. Ahouse:

    ST:

    Your opening remarks struck a cord with me.

    I applied for and was soundly rejected as a BOR candidate.

    I think my earlier remarks that if the committee was looking for a high profile, well placed executive running a big enterprise, then disregard my application.

    And. look who were selected to till the 3 openings - individuals who are CEO of an influential enterprise.

    Oh well, back to the drawing board.


  28. jimmy the lock:

    Geez, when Apple was first hired he make big body and wants to make Hawaii athletics like the big boys. Now less than a year later he suggests playing lower than today. My, my, my. Maybe he should go work at Pyongyang University.


  29. Ahouse:

    I read with interest Dave Reardon's dissertation this morning and wondered where would UH athletics be without a football team revenue to support the non-income sports.

    Before Title IX, it would have been possible to sit as a lower than mid-major team with smaller expenses and little, if any, high profile athletes for football.

    Will Hawaii step up and bring glory to the State? Bashing by Apple is not the Hawaii way of getting individuals and/or businesses looking for ways to support. Yes, such statements belong in a closed room; not in the press!!!!!!!


  30. jimmy the lock:

    Too late. It's already in the press. Apple should have bit his tongue but too late, he took a bite and now is left with half a worm.


  31. jimmy the lock:

    Better news: Can't wait to see what Diocemy Saint Juste brings to the playing field!


  32. Moocher:

    reason why i asked if anyone knew if athletics operated in the black for 1999, 2006, 2007 was because in recent times those were some of the best years.

    curious to know because if we were still in the red in those years, what did we do and what do we need to do different get a productive year in the black.

    first of all, we won. Second, what did UH marketing do? Third, how did those productive years benefit sponsors, students, the community?

    maybe i'm misunderstanding things?


  33. Shoko:

    Regarding Manley, if its a family situation here in Hawaii and since UH is the only game in town, I would say UH is in a fine position to pick him up. That's if he wants to continue playing college ball.


  34. jimmy the lock:

    Moocher, Here's a Ferd article in 2010.

    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2010/Feb/18/ln/hawaii2180335.html


  35. Shoko:

    I think the Sugar Bowl year was money in the bank for UH. What followed after was red, red and more red.


  36. jm2375:

    Carl Carlson and James Lee are the current BOR vice-chairs. Would stand to reason that they are the front-runners. I would vote for Chuck Gee, former dean of TIM.


  37. jm2375:

    Shoko - hard to tell about the Sugar Bowl year books, since the Fumbler was probably doing some creative accounting.


  38. Shoko:

    I think 2010-2011 fiscal year showed a little profit as I do recall the deficit dropped a little. Could be wrong, tho.


  39. Haleakala:

    I think it would be interesting to see a historical breakdown of revenue and costs of the football team versus that of the other sports. Has the football team been supporting the athletic department though the water cup has a leak in it?


  40. Shoko:

    37. Well, I will agree that Frazier dropped the ball after that unbelievable season. UH had a lot of momentum going into the following year.


  41. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Looks like the blog server was down for a while this morning. Seems to be going down more frequently nowadays.

    Welcome Diocemy Saint Juste!


  42. Shoko:

    Posted this website before which itemizes expenses and revenues of all sports for the recent fiscal year (2011-2012).

    Just click on UH-Manoa link to get to the next page the hit Revenues and Expenses tab.
    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.aspx


  43. Ahouse:

    tom #11:

    Hope we are included in your list!


  44. Derek:

    The one word that describes St. Juste is "electric".


  45. Ahouse:

    wafan & izzy:

    any plans to attend the Oregon St game on 7/7/13?

    any other Washington State Tsaikos interested?


  46. SteveM:

    RE: #24
    OTTO -- I think for Greenwood, corruption in the Athletic Department was not the major issue... nor the money lost in the Wonder scam. Greenwood demonstrated that she would throw people under the bus to advance her agenda and throw away a lot more money in lawyers and cover-up $200K positions if exposed.

    The official media story focused on UH procedures and the Wonder scam loss-- but that was the only leverage the legislators had to pin Greenwood down. As some stories noted, certain legislators with UH jurisdiction answered the public outcry over Greenwood's no-Aloha actions. Today's SA poll about hiring a new president "from within" is an indicator of that.

    The loss of autonomy stuff was just a smokescreen when the attention turned to the Board of Regents over her actions.


  47. Dan-O:

    Will who?


  48. Former UH Athlete:

    Can't wait for DSJ to hit the field. That kid can fly. Will be a perfect tandem with Lakalaka doing the pounding and DSJ as the speedy change of pace.

    Lakalaka looks like he's ready to burst on the scene. Not the fastest straight line runner, but he's got great vision and nice burst.


  49. Ahouse:

    Manley situation:

    would he consider "walking-on" to UH if Coach Chow grants permission?

    This would create an interesting QB situation.

    first things first is getting accepted at UH.


  50. Shoko:

    USA Today came out with a nifty chart that reports the schools athletic budget at the Division I.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/

    Breakdown of MWC schools.
    (revenues, expenses, subsidies)

    UNLV
    ($58,806,533, $58,691,671, $32,596,860)
    Boise State
    ($43,440,905, $43,172,225, $10,841,023)
    Air Force
    ($44,490,055, $43,156,740, $27,503,590)
    New Mexico
    ($43,284,573, $44,321,779, $18,082,317)
    San Diego State
    ($38,003,291, $39,017,254, $16,879,161)
    Hawaii
    ($37,879,740, $40,319,775, $13,647,381)
    Colorado State
    ($30,802,879, $30,161,147, $14,922,242)
    Fresno State
    ($30,724,143, $30,174,803, $13,041,439)
    Wyoming
    ($30,266,873, $30,476,152, $15,229,766)
    San Jose State
    ($23,918,785, $23,505,166, $15,907,844)
    Nevada
    ($21,531,926, $22,177,509, $8,849,585)
    Utah State
    ($21,061,242, $21,565,777, $12,789,831)


  51. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    I read all of Tsai's post and everybody else's comments. Then I watched the DSJ highlights, and that's all I can think about! Can't wait to see him play!


  52. Ahouse:

    Will Afoga Wily redshirt 2013? or vice versa with St Juste or both redshirt?


  53. Shoko:

    Word on the street is that UNLV's athletic director Jim Livengood is stepping down.


  54. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Oh yeah - now I remember! Good luck to Manley, what ever he does!


  55. ai-eee-soos:

    didn't AM burn his bridges to Manoa ?

    .... he can walk on, if he wants to, then maybe "earn" a scholarship for 1 year.

    ...IM(not so)HO...


  56. A-House:

    Shoko #50:

    what is included or makes up subsidies?

    Surprising to see UNLV leading the "revenues" parade as locals say average crowd is 12-15,000 for games except against Hawaii and Wisconsin when its sold out.

    I will presume TV revenues for Hawaii is included in the $37,879,740.


  57. Shoko:

    Too early for Bowl predictions? Probably, but its something to read and ponder.
    CBS Sports came out with their 2013-14 Bowl predictions.
    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

    Maaco Bowl Boise State vs. Arizona State
    New Mexico Bowl Air Force vs. Utah
    Famous Idaho Potato Bowl Nevada vs. Ohio
    Hawaii Bowl Utah State vs. Rice
    Poinsettia Bowl Fresno State vs. Arkansas State
    Armed Forces Bowl San Diego State vs. Navy


  58. Shoko:

    56. Good question. I think its state subsidies and/or student fees.


  59. Shoko:

    Its official. Livengood forced to retire.
    http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv-rebels/booster-livengood-forced-retire-unlv-athletic-director-post

    Well, that's all for today folks!


  60. Shoko:

    One last thing. On that USA Today link, you can click on the school and it will show you the revenues and expenses for the last eight year (2008-2012).


  61. jimmy the lock:

    When Manley shows interest in being a Warrior and Chow shows interest in Manley then I'll wonder what's next for Manley.

    Otherwise, here's hoping for positive results in his family situation.


  62. Bigislandkurt:

    Can't wait to see Diocemy!
    If he can do what he did in his highlight real, we will be in for some great moments in the years to come. Speed kills.

    BIK


  63. al:

    ahouse...even if manley were to find his way home. i am not sure how interesting it will be. graham without a doubt is #1, a healthy schroeder would still be tough to displace at #2". then there's Higgins and woolsley. be quite an uphill climb.


  64. hightide:

    Sen. DONNA MERCADO KIM should be UH president. She has the legislative process down. She knows how to ask questions. That is the most important quality in a leader.


  65. al:

    lakalaka and st, juste could be the thunder and lightning.
    but, aofaga wiley will be there to compete for time, too.

    nice trifecta...
    boom lakalaka
    the juice
    and the wily coyote.


  66. SteveM:

    Diocemy Saint Juste looks like he might be an exciting kickoff returner too. Any projections on this?


  67. RedZone:

    Manley has D1 experience.


  68. d1shima:

    Yep. 1-11 last season experience.


  69. Shoko:

    Unless Manley gets a hardship waiver he would have to sit out a year. I read at least half of hardship waiver request are denied.

    Anyway, it sounds like he's transferring because he doesn't fit into the new system the new head coach is implementing. Family situation might be a secondary reason for leaving, which might make it more difficult to get that waiver approved. Wait and see...

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/22218460/new-mexico-state-qb-andrew-manley-released-from-scholarship


  70. wafan:

    70, and nytal!


  71. jm2375 (iPad):

    People need to be careful of what they wish for. Many UH faculty/admin are afflicted with the Ivory Tower Syndrome and may not necessarily be good for the school and community.

    Donna Kim is not qualified. I'm sure minimum qualifications include a doctoral degree and experience in university level administration at the VP/chancellor level. And for those quibbling about the salary, you get what you pay for.


  72. Shoko:

    None too many Rebel fans are happy that Livengood is being forced out. In fact, there are folks that are blaming Smatresk for the present state of affairs of the athletic department. If the powers that be at the university ever decide to terminate Smatresk, he could always apply at the UH. After all he does have ties to UH.


  73. 3-Prong:

    66 stevem: Agree with your assessment on DSJ. Seems to anticipate well and has a knack at finding the seam.


  74. Shoko:

    Alrighty then. I'm done babbling. G'night!!


  75. mo808:

    I really wanted to see Manley at UH four years ago, I guess it wasn't meant to be then. I'm not so sure it will be this time either. I do wish him the best either way though! I am so looking forward to seeing Taylor in as number one this season! And--after just viewing Diocemy's video link above...I can't wait for Warrior Football! Go Warriors!!!


  76. oneseason:

    Good commentary on Leahy & Leahy


  77. Yojimbo:

    24' Otto, so what??? Mrc was also forced out from the uc system, and we were lolo enough to hire her she came to uh under a cloud, and is leaving with a golden parachute, thanks to idiots like martinson and the uh bor.


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  79. BG:

    After reading Reardon's article this morning, I am reminded that he does have a tendency to have binders on. The main point seems to be, "Why not consider D11?". Problem is, he only focuses on football and forgets the other sports. If football goes D11 (and I don't think it's possible without having to pay huge travel subsidies), what will happen with basketball, volleyball, etc.? How can we possibly support these teams at the D11 level without the $$ that football brings in? When the athletic dept runs a deficit, it's not all attributed to the football program...even with the nutty revenue arrangements they have.

    OK, got it out of my system...back to writing my paper.


  80. RB:

    Manley said he would return to his native state of Hawaii for the time being to spend time with his family. He said he could look to continue playing football in that state, but had some thinking to do in terms of what his next move would be. He added if he could transfer to the University of Hawaii, a hardship waiver could be a possibility, which would allow him to take the field immediately.

    http://www.currentargus.com/ci_23198788/new-mexico-state-quarterback-andrew-manley-will-transfer?source=most_viewed


  81. J.V. Sr.:

    Talofa everyone,

    Always a blessing to have local players return home to play. We wish the best for Andrew and will continue to be a fan of his.

    As for the MRC Greenwood issue, I'll plead the 5th on that one.

    Always nice to see our warriors out in the community getting involved and sharing what means to be a warrior football athlete. The camps at various locations around the state is a great way to get the communities support with uh athletics.

    Awsome news, can't wait to see, Diocemy Saint Juste perform in fall camp. Great athlete.

    Nice to also see that American Football has made its way too, Sweden. Best of luck to Lewis Walker on his continued career as a pro.

    Aloha everyone, have a good nite. Don't forget your prayers, stay blessed.

    Gooo Rainbow Warriors!!!


  82. ai-eee-soos:

    on Rob DeMello's sports ---

    Chancellor Apple will waive the $12m debt, so that the new AD can start "fresh".


  83. 3-Prong:

    Ai-eee-soo: That waiver also came with a three year clause. Basically, if we don't find a way to stay in the black in the 3 year time frame, he would consider getting out of D1. I hope the apple does fall,........and land far away from the base of our tree.


  84. 3-Prong:

    Ai-eee-soo: That waiver also came with a three year clause. Basically, if we don't find a way to stay in the black in the 3 year time frame, he would consider getting out of D1. I hope the apple does fall,........and land far away from the base of our tree.


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  93. Wes'side Warrior:

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    Hope you all have been in good health.

    I see lots going on "UP" at UH. Got my head spinning. First, we get all this positive talk about the Athletic Department as they come in. Now, we get an about-face on athletics? Man! What's up with people?

    And speaking of a job... we fly back home on 04June... too bad I'm not some beeeeg, high-makamaka CEO, or I would put my application for BOR. Gonna have to find a job when we get back home. Anyone know of any openings? Hate going to a "new" place with no job.

    Our car gets picked up around 18May, and our HHG gets "Podded" on 23-24May. It'll be at least a month before I get this old computer back. I'll borrow computers in the interim to check emails, facebook, etc. Call me if you guys need to get a hold of me. My number won't change to a local one just yet.

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