Talking the talk

May 10th, 2013
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Quarterback Andrew Manley, who recently received his requested release from his New Mexico State scholarship, has initiated discussions with UH about the possibility of playing for the Warriors.

The Warriors still are determining if they have an available initial scholarship (they're limited to 25 a year), meaning Manley might have to be a walk-on during the fall semester. He also would need to gain admission into UH. But those are questions that will be answered in the coming weeks. For now, they're talking.

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There is a strong probability that offensive lineman Jordan Loeffler, who faces knee surgery, will medically retire. In any scenario, Loeffler will remain on scholarship.

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Mike Edwards is the only undrafted free-agent cornerback at the New York Jets' rookie minicamp, which started today.

232 Responses to “Talking the talk”

  1. chawan_cut:

    aloha ichi!


  2. wait a minute:

    Good to hear about Manley.
    Sad to hear about Loeffler.
    Good luck to both.


  3. Kekoa:

    Happy Aloha Friday!

    Mom's special weekend getting started. I'll be treating the Queen of the ceded lands to a staycation weekend just down the street at the Aulani. A little relaxing down time for the Tutu keeps my sports activity options wide open for the upcoming season.

    Happy Mother's Day weekend to all the Mom's!


  4. Stephen Tsai:

    Aulani?
    The Queen is going to rule the Magic Kingdom.


  5. d1shima:

    Foa!

    Great Morning All!


  6. d1shima:

    Fine. Fi den!


  7. d1shima:

    Good foa Manley.

    Auwe foa Loeffler. (Wow, spell check no like that whole sentence!)


  8. mo808:

    Good Morning Folks! Happy Friday All!


  9. Stephen Tsai:

    Question: Does anybody know where I can buy a Mongolian sheepskin pillow in Hawaii?


  10. d1shima:

    Good Luck foa Edwards.


  11. d1shima:

    Start at a Mongolian BBQ?


  12. Stephen Tsai:

    d1:
    And that's how the "Buck Foise" shirts came to be.


  13. mo808:

    Sorry to hear about Jordan Loeffler, but at least he'll be able to finish his education. Wish the best for Andre Manley and former Warrior Mike Edwards! HiHo for now!


  14. mo808:

    Andre=Andrew


  15. Stephen Tsai:

    On a positive note, it looks like Dustin Elisara, who missed all of the 2012 season while recovering from knee surgery, should be back.


  16. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Best wishes to Mr. Edwards!


  17. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    Interesting results in yesterday's daily Star-Advertiser's BIG Q (un)scientific poll regarding UH's participation in D-1 athletics.

    YES - Very Important: 45%

    NO - It's a money drain: 28%

    Maybe not -


  18. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    Interesting results in yesterday's daily Star-Advertiser's BIG Q (un)scientific poll regarding UH's participation in D-1 athletics.

    YES - Very Important: 45%

    NO - It's a money drain: 28%

    Maybe not -


  19. J-FORCE:

    Manley will absolutely strengthen our qb situation no doubt about it. Hoping he gets the paper work done and be with the team this year. Go Warriors!


  20. Kekoa:

    ST ~ The Magic Kingdom has been warned that the Princess will be in the travel party. They have gone into a lock down mode as of 7 AM this morning.


  21. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    Sorry - I hit something on the keyboard that sent #18 off

    Interesting results in yesterday's daily Star-Advertiser's BIG Q (un)scientific poll regarding UH's participation in D-1 athletics.

    YES - Very Important: 45%

    NO - It's a money drain: 28%

    MAYBE NOT - Seriously reassess: 27%

    TOTAL VOTES: 2,878

    SOMEHWAT CHANGE OF SUBJECT: The Stadium Facilities Special Fund passed in 2012 and signed into law as ACT 282 - 2012 was administravely attached to the Public Land Development Corporation - although all decisions as to what would be done with the lands were be under the jurisdiction of the Stadium Authority. The PLDC has been repealed so the the SFSF is also now dead. There is an Aloha Stadium operational fund established in the early 1970s to cover everything from purchasing toilet paper to paying for travel exenses which some people think could be used to place CIP funds; however, no one in the Attorney General's Office has been assigned to issue a ruling.


  22. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    Thank you Jordan Loeffler for your contributions to Hawaii!
    Best wishes to Andrew Manley and Mike Edwards.


  23. d1shima:

    Hmmm...

    If he weren't a local HS grad would there "absolutely" be any enthusiasm for a 1 for 1 QB who went 1-11 with an 18-11 TD/INT ratio and an average of 230 yards passing per game last season? :roll:


  24. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Good luck to Jordan Loeffler!


  25. PolyMom:

    Happy Aloha Friday!

    Mothers Day weekend. Hmmm...taking my Mama and Aunty for Brunch. Nice to have my hub here in Hilo for the weekend.

    GO WARRIORS!


  26. kawika49:

    ST by the way; if you were Hawaiian or Samoan, prior to 1969 the military rated you as Mongolian.


  27. itsayoungthing:

    Mike Edwards predicted to make 53 man roster.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1629653-early-prediction-for-the-new-york-jets-final-53-man-roster/page/10


  28. jimmy the lock:

    d1shima, no qualifying enthusiasm from me.

    Well wishes Jordan.

    Work hard Mike.

    GO SOFTBOWS!


  29. jimmy the lock:

    Mongolian sheepskin pillow? They had at Costco but not sure if they still do.


  30. Rodney:

    Hope Manly makes it.A Big get for us.
    It would be like Having another Taylor
    only with game experience !!!! Huge
    Get for the Warriors!!!!!


  31. Warrior Dave:

    Great to have a Hawaii boy return home and decide to come to UH. But I think they all need to come back as a walk-on and earn a scholarship. There are always consequences for decisions made. Any open/un-used scholarships should be used to reward walk ons. But its just my opinion.


  32. al:

    perhaps mr. tom mui would know where in chinatown one could find such a pillow.

    i am guessing it is for mother's day, therefore, amazon.com would be too late again for yet a mother's day piece.


  33. ai-eee-soos:

    How many schools offered AM ?

    UH and NaMaSu - that's all I can think of.

    Why only 2 ???

    As I posted previously, AM can walk on, and mebbe earn a scholarship for his last year.


  34. A-House:

    If there is a single scholarship left, what will the "other" local boys from BCS schools who have initiated discussions with UH to return home and play for the Warriors?

    I understood that Coach Chow had a policy for local boys coming home that they would walk-on and then be able to garner a scholarship. This would hold true for any transfer to Hawaii.

    If this is true, then should not Manley be in this category? Am I miss reading comments - as usual!

    Is Dustin Elisera a Dline player? Me forget already.


  35. A-House:

    I should really "proof read" my comments before pressing the submit button cause my first sentence makes little or no sense.

    need to delete "what will the" and then "add", what will happen to".


  36. al:

    ahouse...no worry brah. i completely understood what you were saying.


  37. ai-eee-soos:

    New Zealand sheepskin products, including medical kine, avail in Honolulu.

    Maybe you can sew one up into a pillow.

    go to google.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    9.Stephen Tsai:
    May 10th, 2013 at 7:09 am

    Question: Does anybody know where I can buy a Mongolian sheepskin pillow in Hawaii?
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------


  38. jimmy the lock:

    Trojan makes a sheepskin product.


  39. Warrior Dave:

    #39 Haha good one.


  40. A-House:

    al:

    you have truly made my day - mucho arigato!!!!!!!!


  41. papajoe2:

    d1shima, At least AM played in Div. 1 compared to last years qbs. I also agree that he should walk on and, if worthy, then a scholarship earned.


  42. tommui:

    ST #9 = Mongolian pillow.

    Google it - lots of places such as Amazon, Overstock.com etc. But if it was for Mother's Day, you should have asked last Monday!

    AL's suggestion about Chinatown: they probably have the NZ product but for you, they'll probably tell you that it came from Mongolia.


  43. jimmy the lock:

    Did Graham walk-on and then earned a schollie?


  44. A-House:

    I do hope that Apple and Jay are on the same page when it comes to UH athletics for dropping Football is the "death knife" for all sports as none of the others can generate the income that football can.

    Is the Kaleo situation a "window" to how Apple will do things as Chancellor - going public before close door discussions? Dave Reardon seems to follow Apple's train of thought or did I miss read or misunderstand what Reardon wrote?

    Yes, there is always the possibility to "down grading" football, but can Hawaii support a D1 football program with the limited support from "upper campus" or the legislature or the general public?

    I recall my speech professor telling our class that if many, many, many more people lived and spoke "pidgin" in Hawaii, then it would be classified as a dialect like the "south", Bronx or New England.

    Similar to TV rating or viewership, it's all about the number of people. On my last trip to Kona, I envisioned the entire area from the Kona airport to and including Kamuela as a vast city of 5 to 9 million people. Same could be said for the Hamakua coastline. Only the Big Island can accommodate the population.

    OK, Rambling Rose, get off the bucket and get some water!! gunfunit!!!!!!!!!!


  45. A-House:

    #44:

    I believe so.


  46. fshnpoi:

    Manley, Leilehua, Walk-on, Pizza delivery, Starting QB, Scholarship..


  47. jimmy the lock:

    After further thought, I think Graham didn't walk-on and was given a schollie. Seeing that he was granted a release from OSU, counted as a 2012 recruit, enrolled in Jan. 2012, and Chow tried to recruit him out of high school...yeah I think he didn't walk-on.


  48. Stephen Tsai:

    Graham did not walk on.
    Schroeder walked on, but was awarded a scholarship at the end of training camp.
    Justin Alo and Ikaika Woolsey are on scholarship.
    Jeremy Higgins is not on scholarship.


  49. jimmy the lock:

    Thank you ST.
    Following the Tsaiko-path.

    GO WAHINE! Game time is soon!


  50. dedicatedfan:

    If Andrew Manley truly wants to play for the Warriors, and there is no scholarship available, he should pay his dues and walk-on for one semester. He can always get a student loan for the fall semester, then have 3 years to pay it off, while on scholarship.


  51. Stephen Tsai:

    My take:
    At next week's BOR meetings, there's a possible vote on whether to forgive the athletic department's accumulated deficit.
    Apple's comments were a pre-emptive strike. If the debt is going to be forgiven, there needs to be assurances the athletic department will not incur additional deficits. It's like if your parents agree to pay off your charge-card bills, there needs to be assurances you're not going to rack 'em up again.
    So, yes, we all know what Apple is trying to say.
    But the problem is that we're always saying: "We know what Apple is trying to say ..."
    Why, oh, why, can't he just say what he means to say?
    That's so puzzling. But that's also why the leader of the Manoa campus is not being lobbied as the successor to the leader of the UH system.
    He's a smart man. He has good intentions. But, dammit, just say what you mean.
    Grrrrr.


  52. Stephen Tsai:

    As many of you know, Manley's brother is seriously ill. There are a lot of medical bills, so money might not be as readily available.
    There are several fund-raisers for the brother's medical care. I'll try to post some links.


  53. al:

    andrew manley should be awarded a scholie if one is available. that could happen if one of the 2013 recruits doesn't get in.

    he would be deserving i would think based upon the fact that we need another capable qb in the fold.

    so we have taylor "made" graham looking more and more like the solid choice.
    behind him we have schroeder who is iffy because of his bad back and he is a senior.
    then there is higgins who has yet to prove himself as having the d1 arm and the rather green ikaika woolsley who could otherwise end up the #2 qb.

    we all know how important it is to have a more than capable backup qb. therefore, if one's available then it is very logical to award manley a full ride.


  54. 3-Prong:

    Getting Tirsty! Pau Hana Time Coming Soon!


  55. 3-Prong:

    Go Rainbows. In da pool and on da diamonds!


  56. RB:

    Mike Edwards is #43. here's a picture of him at mini camp.

    http://www.newyorkjets.com/photos-and-videos/photo-gallery/510-Rookie-Camp-Photos/0f6e2989-aa03-4d23-99de-94320a50d87e#178f7362-f064-41f5-a74c-61fb2bff9ea2


  57. jimmy the lock:

    If Manly isn't given an exemption to be eligible to play this year then he wouldn't be a factor for this year.


  58. A-House:

    al:

    please do not forget Zwahlen (sp) who will be here for the 2015 season after a 2 year mission with very little time to work out and probably out of shape

    but with Manley, would he not be in the same "back-up" mode as the others and leaving the same time as Graham?

    did Chow get a commitment for a QB in 2014? I know he offered a Florida player and another player from Georgia who remains committed to USC.


  59. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good luck to Mike and Manley! Hope both are able to make their respective teams.

    Very sorry about Loeffler. Watched practice the day he was injured. Best of luck to him.

    GO RAINBOW WAHINE!!!


  60. Irse:

    Isn't the 25 scholarships per year initials? Meaning hs grad and JC transfers. I don't think it includes transfers from other 4 year schools


  61. Stephen Tsai:

    Irse:
    I was under the impression initials meant HS and JC. But I was told otherwise. That's why UH has cap problems.


  62. WarriorMojo:

    Softball score anyone?

    3-1 UH topadda 6th.


  63. jimmy the lock:

    Close your eyes time.

    UH 3 UOP 1 heading to the bottom of the 6th

    ok, you can open your eyes now.


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  65. jimmy the lock:

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  73. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    JTL, WM -

    where ya guys following the game at? The bigwest.tv stream is horrendous!


  74. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    NOTICE OF BOARD OF REGENTS’ MEETING

    Board business not completed on this day will be taken up on another
    day and time announced at the conclusion of the meeting.

    Date: Thursday, May 16, 2013
    Time: 9:15 a.m.
    Place: University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa
    2465 Campus Road
    Campus Center Ballroom
    Honolulu, Hawai‘i 96822

    AGENDA

    I. Call Meeting to Order

    II. Approval of Minutes of the April 18, 2013 Meeting

    III. Public Comment Period: Individuals may orally testify on items on this agenda during the Public Comment Period. Please call the Board office prior to the meeting or notify the Secretary of the Board at the meeting site. Written testimony is also accepted. Testifiers are requested to limit their testimony to three (3) minutes.

    IV. Election of Board Officers

    V. Report of the President

    VI. Report of the University of Hawai‘i Foundation

    VII. Items for Board Action – Part A

    Board of Regents
    1. Approval of Recommendations by the Task Group on Intercollegiate Athletics regarding Proposed Amendments to Board of Regents’ Policy, Chapter 7, Section 7-8: Intercollegiate Athletics; Board of Regents’ Bylaws regarding a new Committee on Intercollegiate Athletics; and Board of Regents’ Policy, Chapter 6, Section 6-8b, related to Board Exemptions to Non-Resident Tuition, and Report on a Proposed Process to Reconcile the Athletics Department’s Accumulated Deficit

    2. Status Report on Operational and Financial Controls Improvement Advisory Task Group’s Operational Assessment Phase (Information Only)

    3. Recap of Legislative Session>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    VIII. Executive Session (closed to the public):

    Personnel Actions Related to the Following Positions: (To discuss the following personnel matters pursuant to HRS §92-5(a)(2))
    a. President of the University of Hawaiʻi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    XI. Announcements
    Next Meeting:
    July 18, 2013 at the University of Hawaiʻi Cancer Center’s Sullivan Conference Room


  75. B-KEKOA (9th isle):

    ALOHA! BEAUTIFUL DAY IN LAS VEGAS TODAY. GO WARRIORS!!!


  76. dedicatedfan:

    The Softbows win, 3-1, on Jazmine Zamora's 2 run Home Run, in the top of the 6th inning. BWC CHAMPIONS!!!! On to the Regionals.


  77. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Congrats to da Wahine!!!! 2013 Big West Champions!!!


  78. WarriorMojo:

    DPK:

    I was just relaying the twitter feed from UH.

    The Big West stream was indeed horrible.


  79. gobows:

    wahine beats pacific 3-1 in game 1. jazmine 2 run hr, kaia 7inn, 1r, 6h, 5k, 0w.


  80. jimmy the lock:

    I was on the phone with a person who was at the game.


  81. gobows:

    wahine wp up 13-3 with 4 minutes left. win and they face #1 seed usc.


  82. gobows:

    wahine wp wins 13-6 over ucsd


  83. gobows:

    Changes for 2nd game #HawaiiSB vs Pacific: Kesterson to pitch & Villalpando at 3rd. Video/audio/stats http://pacifictigers.com #HawaiiSB


  84. Rite80:

    #53

    Not one QB on the UH roster is a proven DIV 1 player.


  85. Derek:

    IMO, Andrew Manley is NOT the Holy Grail QB that UH is looking for. That's not saying he shouldn't be on scholarship. It's up to Norm Chow. Me personally, I'd like to see our QB be able to move and mobile. Keelan Ewaliko has speed, Zwahlen has speed, Alo can run. Schroeder is slow. Need some turbo boosting. Tape a cheetah to his back.

    Congratulations to the Rainbow Wahine softball and water polo teams. Great job. The softball player that really came on this year is Jasmine Zamora. She,Keiki Carlos, Leisha Liilii, Kayla Wartner, and Sharla Klibenstein will be the strength of the team next year. We need to find the new ACE of the staff for next year.


  86. d1shima:

    ppj2,

    At least AM played in Div. 1 compared to last years qbs

    At the very least.
    Losing to Texas-San Antonio and Texas St. by a combined 42-101...4 TDs vs 3 Int's?

    At least Wile E. Coyote has experience doing roadwork with a real Road Runner....


  87. BG:

    d1

    You have a compelling argument...


  88. BG:

    The highest praise to Na Wahine for taking of business. Had the good fortune of sitting across from Jazmine at the SB banquet. Asked her what was the difference for her from the beginning of the season to now. She said the opportunity to play and get comfortable. She always felt she could hit. Was all dressed up and looking great, but I wouldn't arm wrestle with her...she's spent her time in the weight room!


  89. 3-Prong:

    Das da how Rainbow Wahine Polo and Softballers! Mo Tirsty now!


  90. Kevin:

    Zamora, pound for pound is the strongest player on the team and probably the most "pure athlete" on the team. Her first sport is basketball and she’s come around full circle to being a damn fine softball player. She’s putting herself in serious contention to be leadoff next season.


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  92. BG:

    Na Wahine win 2nd game 5-2. Way to go!


  93. 3-Prong:

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  94. WarriorMojo:

    I like see Zamora arm wrestle ... A-House!


  95. gobows:

    ...tape a cheetah to his back. classic.
    his footwork in the pocket needs lots of work, he doesn't have good throwing mechanics. bad footwork=poor passes.


  96. tommui:

    Congratulations to the Rainbow Wahine water polo team. BEAT USC!

    And the Na Wahine softballers - good going!


  97. 3-Prong:

    ...............burp...(hehe) Go Bows!


  98. Shoko:

    I think Manley was the most sacked and hurried QB in the country. If he wasn't, then that title might have to Schroeder. Poor pass protection (O-line) and coaching (DeWayne Walker) can make any QB look bad. However, having only one year left of eligibility, I'm not sure how much he can contribute to the program. Can't think of any other position he would fit given his skill set. Maybe as a signal caller?


  99. Pomai:

    19-4 in conference, 42-11 overall. Tell me again why we shouldn't host a regional? No Clue At ALL!!!!!!!


  100. 100.:

    100.


  101. dedicatedfan:

    Hey Pomai, I will give you 3 letters why the Softbows will not host a Regional, S.E.C. The SEC will probably have 8-10 teams hosting regionals. I do not agree with it, but that is the way it is.


  102. wafan:

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  106. Rodney:

    We need a gun slinger aka Brett Farve
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  108. markazulu:

    manley is a good sizes qb and he has a strong arm plus he hasd1 experience the win-lose collum dont matter to me because it was new mexico state but he did lead them to beat minnesota i believe. Personally ive seen manly throw he is accurate and has a strong arm and i know for a fact his family are big uh supporters regular season ticket holders.


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  110. Slugger:

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    Congratulations to Na Wahine SB!!!

    Hope everything works out for Manley. Prayers for his brother.

    GO Mikey! Edwards, that is.


  111. A-House:

    Mr Jay:

    I do hope your "coffers" have a fund to pay for championship whatever for the Wahine waterpolo and softball teams for they are deserving of a ring or bracelet.

    If not, will the Tsaikos step up for the softball team? Pomai & Kevin, what say you?


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  115. jm2375 (iPad):

    Congrats to both Wahine teams!

    Go Wahine!
    Go Bows!

    Go Owls!


  116. kitsunegari:

    Steve needs to go to bed or find friends.


  117. Willie:

    Don't understand all the excitement about manly. He's not that accurate and take a look at his foot work, got slow in cement foot speed & below average agility. Despite one former blog host's annointment of manly being the best Hawaii HS QB ever, he is not the Warrior saviour.


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  119. wafan:

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  121. d1shima:

    Great Morning All!

    Congratulations to the BWC Champions!


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  124. RedZone:

    Taylor being groomed to be the starter it would be good to have a backup with D1 game experience. The more the better. As to whether Manley can play or not will be up to the coaches. They can find video of the games he played in.


  125. Slugger:

    Good morning, gang!

    Congratulations to the UH Women Water Polo team! Good luck in today's match!

    Congratulations to the student-athletes who are graduating today!


  126. 3-Prong:

    2 wins away from being crowned National Champions.
    BEAT USC GUNFUNNIT!


  127. Hilo Moon:

    GO POLO BOWS! BEAT USC!


  128. Willie:

    RedZone, take a look at the St. Louis versus Leilehua game; Higgins versus Manly match up.


  129. Inyoface:

    It's nice to have a starter named and have a lot of reps during spring. Last year this time we had no starter. We're going into fall full steam ahead. Go Graham! Go warriors!


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