Mad skills

September 3rd, 2013
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The Rainbow Warriors are experimenting with different lineups on the offensive line, with Leo Koloamatangi and David Griffin expected to have expanded roles for the road game against Oregon State. Their specific duties have yet to be determined.

Griffin transferred from Mesa Community College in January. Koloamatangi, a second-year freshman, redshirted in 2012. Both are noted for their long arms, effective punches and agile footwork.

UH head coach Norm Chow said another asset is both "are angry." Translation: Both could provide an emotional boost to a line that allowed seven sacks against USC.

The Warriors used seven offensive linemen against USC. Frank Loyd Jr. and Koloamatangi were summoned after left tackle Sean Shigematsu suffered a bone bruise on his right ankle. (Shigematsu practiced yesterday, and should be OK for Saturday's game.)

172 Responses to “Mad skills”

  1. Bugaz:

    Go Warriors!!!


  2. Bugaz:

    Yes sir get angry! Punch um in the mouth and create some holes.


  3. Bugaz:

    Good to hear Shigematsu is doing good.


  4. Bugaz:

    Give TG six seconds in the pocket so jeezy can properly asses his accuracy. J/k


  5. Bugaz:

    First five rows


  6. Bugaz:

    Spam between bugaz for breakfast lol


  7. gobows:

    second...


  8. Kapahulu:

    Top Ten


  9. Bugaz:

    Hopefully the o-line can block so we can see what the young RBs can do in space.


  10. green tea:

    Iosefa is playing saturday right?


  11. Bugaz:

    That what I keep telling the other half and keiki


  12. Shoko:

    Ask this again, is Iosefa is good to go?


  13. Shoko:

    10. I think there is enough blame to go around on offense.


  14. Stephen Tsai:

    Re: Auto correct.
    Excuses, excuses, excuses. Blame auto correct. Blame your middle school typing teacher. Blame your grandfather with the fat thumbs. You can't correct a deficiency if you don't know how to spell deficiency.


  15. The Pillar:

    "I am the smartest one in the room. Facts, Schmacts. Who needs 'em?"

    Sincerely,

    In Depends Making A Stinker a.k.a. Mr. BMW Drivers Own The Road!


  16. Naks8:

    Wrs need to shine. Osu secondary got torched by a team that lost its top 3 wrs.


  17. Inyoface:

    If Graham throws 2 pics in the 1st half, it might be smart to bench him. Hopefully that won't happen but fans don't want to see a scrimmage happening or developing a players skill out there. This isn't preseason, and we want to see a W.


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  19. Warrior Storm Brewin:

    27 point underdogs "and we want to see a W" ???


  20. Warrior Storm Brewin:

    And on the road?


  21. Moocher:

    Me, i don't care if the beavers are coming into this game angry....hey, so are we. I hope the boys get the mindset that that hey, we pissed off too and we gonna take it out on you in your house!

    For my tastes if there is ONE thing Chow MUST teach the boys is to THINK BIG! Chow knows the mindsets and attitudes of a team that is favored, a team that is expected to win. Chow must tell these guys EXPECT TO WIN! nevermind the tiptoe walk softly and if we win great, if we lose at least we tried attitude. EXPECT TO WIN! Play with an attitude, play with a chip on your shoulder!

    If trying is good enough we may as pack it up and submit to being a have not and go down to a lower level to play where hey, maybe then the boys will learn to get the attitude of being expected to win.

    As Chow often says NO EXCUSES! Yes, none, expect to win, dream it vision it, build it in their minds--no more losing, time to win.

    We not trying to create another Phillip Rivers....we trying to win! Start Graham but if its not there, pull him to the sidelines and coach him up while letting shroeder or another QB take the wheel.

    just my opinion...again... bleh :P


  22. tom-warriornation:

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    $55 each for 40 yard sideline seats BEHIND OUR WARRIOR BENCH

    $30 for great endzone seats
    UH ticket office price is $60 (for near endzone seats most likely)

    Sit safely with a 215+ other diehard Hawaii fans all wearing GREEN!

    Email me: tomkitaguchi@yahoo.com


  23. Shoko:

    Hmm, I guess no one knows if Iosefa is playing or not. Seems folks are concerned more about debating the merits, or lack thereof, of Graham and his ability to run the offense.

    Carry on then...


  24. Bigislandkurt:

    "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face" - M. Tyson.

    Go Rainbow Warriors. Punch the beavers in the face.

    BIK


  25. whitey:

    not football related, but deepest sympathies to the Shiraishi family on the passing of Coach Spenser Shiraishi, coach of Maui Swim Club.


  26. Shoko:

    "Show me a fighter that's nothing but heart, and I'll show you a man waiting for a beating."
    -Million Dollar, Baby.


  27. Inyoface:

    Yes WSB, yes. EWS was a 26.5 point underdog.


  28. haka:

    ST @ 16
    Funny!

    As a team, I am sure everyone holds themselves accountable, but no one points a finger and plays the blame game. Team unity is the glue that holds the team together when external forces try to rip them apart.

    As a fan, I am certain not everyone holds themselves accountable and many hold themselves in the highest esteem of authority and expertise. It's easy to place blame and demand changes when there are no consequences to your actions.

    Go Rainbow Warriors!
    Go Team!
    We believe!


  29. Warrior Storm Brewin:

    You don't live in reality. You can hope for a win. Not expect a win.
    Question for IYF? How much did the spread change after the OSU loss?


  30. welcome808:

    No matter what, if we don't get quick running backs to hit the hole fast we are in trouble again, since we sure don't have a passing game at the moment......


  31. Warrior Storm Brewin:

    So based on the IYF logic...

    Every ranked team that lost to an unranked team last week will lose again to another unranked team this week.

    Also, every unranked team that beat a ranked team will beat a ranked team again this week.

    Therefore, every unranked team that beat a ranked team will not lose to another unranked team this week.

    So because you're so smart, you must win loads of money betting on college football...must be nice to be that smart.


  32. d1shima:

    Great Morning All!

    Erryboddy mad! Lots o' punches being thrown around.

    No get punchy...


  33. d1shima:

    Oh, btw...

    Top Fitti!


  34. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Happy Tuesday (Monday)!

    ST - #16 - ROFLMAO!
    Haka - #32 - ditto

    GO BOWS!
    GO WAHINE!


  35. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    If we start ST at QB, we will beat Oregon State by 35 points!

    (That's why I am not the coach - wrong pay-level!)


  36. kifi:

    Let me try. deefishent! Short for dee-fish-went, take da bait from my line and went run away.


  37. kifi:

    Plenty angry posters this morning. Look like they neva eat their pancakes.


  38. kifi:

    We need someone to translate the spam. Neva know that spam can talk or understand a foreign language. I thought spam was made in Mankato, Minn.


  39. kifi:

    Speaking as an expert in the field of football. One of four things is going to happen.

    1. Hawaii will win by a lot.
    2. Hawaii will lose by a lot.
    3. Hawaii will win in a close game.
    4 Hawaii will lose in a close game.

    That's my expert opinion. And you can take that to the bank.


  40. Independent Tool (thinker):

    I know how to spell deficenicny, ST. It's spelled "dificiency." Duh. Please do not insult my intelligence because everyone here knows how brilliant I am, both as an individual holding a J.D. as well as a football scholar. Please ignore the fact that I have never played a down of college football or any kind of sports at a high level in my life. I know I am right.

    Look, ST. If you were perceptive in reading my posts, you would understand that I believe Graham is The Worst QB on the Planet. Everything is his fault. The offense, his fault. The defense giving up a few big plays, his fault. The receivers running the wrong routes and the linemen missing blitz pickups? HIS FAULT. What's so hard to understand here? Everyone is saying that Graham is blameless (or at least in MY head they are). People need to understand that unless you put ALL the blame for the offense's performance on Taylor Graham and Norm Chow, you are just making EXCUSES. Oh, the line is giving you no time to throw? Throw the ball sooner. Miscommunication with the receivers? Then why doesn't he just run the ball for 500 yards and 5 tds! stop making excuses for him, everyone!

    I won't be happy until Graham gets his scholarship revoked and Chow is fired. Actually, no, scratch that. I won't be happy until everyone aknowledges that I'm right. Because really, at the end of the day, that's what it's about for me.

    I'm right, everybody. Deal with it.


  41. papajoe2:

    kifi, my prediction is tie, tie. lol


  42. kifi:

    papajoe2:
    September 3rd, 2013 at 8:47 am
    kifi, my prediction is tie, tie. lol

    No get smart papajoe. Bumbye I gotta put alternative #5.


  43. Rodney:

    I stop reading independent.(not getting it)
    Taylor will play better, unfortunately
    Oregon state is better foe this week.
    Play action under center would seem
    to help.Run backs should do better pressing
    the hole and live with what ever yds they get
    Love the Defense!!!!
    Imua warriors!
    Chow is our local boy coach !!
    Support the team!!!


  44. papajoe2:

    Yikes!


  45. Haleakala:

    I'll second what Whitey said about Coach Spencer Shiraishi. He dedicated his time over fifty years in coaching thousands of kids to swim and in becoming good citizens. May Spencer rest in peace.


  46. Jonj:

    Well in my eyes the team would have won against USC if we wouldn't have fired Mack! The team would look something like this.
    Alsmost the same starting OLine with a 3rd yr LT in that Aussie who transfer to Baylor,". David graves as a 3yr starter who can scramble as well. WRs Chris gant and billy ray and slots Scott Harding and idk... Donnie king. With the bull RB in iosefa. But all that's hoping no one gets injured! But since billy and iosefa injured how about Trevor Davis and his boy Jared leaf at RB??
    And basically the same exact starting defense plus we prob would still have Mike Edwards.

    Tell me not that we couldn't have had atleast some offense to put up 21-28pts with the way our D was playing?!?!


  47. papajoe2:

    Jonj, maybe some of the guys we got now wouldn't have come here if Mack was still coaching. Also, Jared Leaf left because UH didn't have his classes to pursue his degree. We just gotta support the only team in town no matter what. Imua Hawaii!!!


  48. Buffoman:

    #57 Would we have been in the Hawaii Bowl this past year if Mack was still here with the folks you listed? What would have been the record? And while you're on it, what would the record have been this season if Mack had not left? Could you show the wins and losses since you already predicted a win over USC to start. Just asking. Thanks.


  49. madeinhawaii:

    Morning....
    Every time I see Ammon Barker's name, I think about baking soda... why is that?


  50. 3-Prong:

    Echoing whitey on Coach Shiraishi. Got to witness him in action at countless swim meets. A Great Man and an institution with the MSC.


  51. eMpTy:

    IT. Wrong..


  52. Na Koa Mike:

    Na Koa lunch report:

    http://www.nakoa.org/2013/09/92-na-koa-lunch-report/

    USC game photos:

    http://www.nakoa.org/2013/09/082913-uh-vs-usc-photos/


  53. (Jesse)James:

    Good morning Tsaikos!!!

    Top fitty....minus the spam....LOL

    One game. One team. One mindset.


  54. Jonj:

    #61 u know when Mack was on the fire table I was saying this year had the possibility for a real special year. DG would have been a 3yr starter along with all his WRs being on the same page.
    But I do realize that they're not here no more but I am trying to make you folks realize that we had a decent-good head coach who surrounded himself with the great coaches to get the job done! It was a shame! The RnS required a QB to get in His 2nd season to be special with the same WRs and to be great like CB a 3rd yr with the same WRs.

    I'm not living in the past but I did fight hard and people made me to look stupid so they could hire this offensive guru who has done nothing special with offense


  55. Jonj:

    What's the point with keeping chow?!? He's gonna retire in a few yrs and who has he groomed to take over this prolific offense?!?


  56. Jonj:

    And what happened to mack leaving us with nothing?!? All but a few players starting on D and almost all his OLine starting minus a real good Aussie who transferred. I give chow credit on his WRs although we had a bunch transfer out.


  57. rocky:

    ST,

    Do you know if chow & staff are in contact with kamehameha grad & former CU DT Kory Rasmussen?


  58. Dino:

    also recall that coach mack had a 10-4 record and a WAC title in 2010.


  59. NotNasti:

    Jonj, Mack was dysfunctional, and according to insiders (@UH), mentally unstable. He's gone, so lets move on. Hindsight is 20-20. Looks like your vision (hindsight) is perfect 20-20.


  60. Stephen Tsai:

    Rasmussen has applied for admission to UH.


  61. Independent Tool (thinker):

    NotNasti: I blame Taylor Graham.


  62. PONO:

    Sometimes you just gotta believe. If the offense can do better the D will be solid. The D will only fall apart if they are on the field too much due to turnovers or 3 n outs.


  63. NotNasti:

    I saw two accidents on the way to work this morning. I heard the motorists' blaming Taylor Graham for causing the accident(s).


  64. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    #57,

    Yeah maybe. And we wouldn't have all the recruits that Chow brought on i.e. Lakalaka, Kirkwood, Barker, etc etc.

    So give and take I guess.


  65. Independent Tool (thinker):

    @65: NotNasti, it's because the cars are driving the wrong routes because Norm Chow sucks as a coach. I also blame Taylor Graham.


  66. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    ...kifi's game predictions are usually accurate, so I'll go with his.


  67. wasabi:

    Chow #8 on coaches hotseat. Karma...


  68. DaveLetterMan:

    Use to be fun lurking but not anymore. Will just read ST's daily post from now on.


  69. Derek:

    I have no problems with the coaches and the players. The recruiting over the last 2 recruiting classes is a step up from the Mack Era. There is no comparison. There's more talent, more FBS caliber players. Like anything else, we need more of them. Coaches have to coach better, players have to play better and execute better. The search for the Holy Grail continues. That's the one player we need to have a better chance to compete for a conference title. We struck out on Corey Nielson, Cayman Shutter, the guy who came from high school in Arizona who was always injured. That set back us about 4 to 5 years after Moniz, and even him came here as a walk-on. On film, I liked what Aaron Zwahlen brings to the table. I think Larry Tuileta is athletic and is obviously multi-talented. We don't need a 6'4" or 6'6" type QB, just someone who is smart, accurate, and mobile. It's hard to get the intangibles, but that's what Chow and Company need to find. It is no different in the NFL. It's a QB league. In college, it's the same thing. I read that at Cincinnati, Tommy Tuberville has 2 pretty good QBs. Now, that's a luxury I would love to have.


  70. SteveM:

    Wow, I have my very own stalker.
    My apologies everyone.
    ...although I appreciate the generous offer to make me more than what I am. :(


  71. Hanaukalele:

    Dass auight. Buggah get pu from da kine ladatt. So go about doing yo da kine. Eat laulau pick opihi terd road delight tree scoops of aloha. Das da winnah!


  72. Jeezy33:

    73. Well said.. Prototype nfl pocket passing qb with big arm is not a huge need anymore in college... I really don't think it would hurt to give ewaliko some spread packages to see what he can do. Don't know if it will work but wouldn't hurt to try


  73. Independent Thinker:

    It is what it is. The truth is hard. It's ok. The world is not ending. There will be a tomorrow.


  74. Inyoface:

    I blame WSB


  75. Independent Thinker:

    St, was that your attempt at a funny? If it was, now that, your attempt at a funny, was funny, in and of itself. Great job, st.


  76. Independent Thinker:

    Just win!! UH!! When that happens, no one will care who plays, who coaches, and who agrees or disagrees. Just win! If we lose, don't make excuses. At halftime, make appropriate adjustments. No excuses. Get it done. If you can't get it done, say so so we can get someone in place who can get it done. If you want to make excuses, go see Johnny or one of his pals. They handle the chow and graham excuse department.


  77. Whats up:

    I think Taylor Graham will be watching film this week about his mistakes and learning from them. Taylor Graham is too much of a football junkie and has the pedigree/bloodline to not study, watch film and learn from his mistakes to improve this next week against Oregon State. I'm convinced that Taylor Graham is the QB for the Hawaii Warriors. The coaches will get the young WR's and New QB play cleaned up and on the same page. The Oline is a work in progress again this season. But hopefully Coach Naole works some the kinks out because 7 sacks a game is going to killing whoever we have at QB. I expect a slight improvement from the Warrior Offense against Oregon State, but sadly, I don't expect the Warriors to win.


  78. Stephen Tsai:

    David LetterMan:
    I don't read a lot of the posts, either.


  79. Whats up:

    http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/09/01/2737538/vanilla-playbook-leaves-bland.html

    I'm posting this again because some of you want to change the offensive scheme should read what happened to Boise State!

    Chris Peterson changed the offense a to a wide open spread attack with no TE and got beat down by UW last night. He is now going back to the bread and butter pro style offense and bring back the TE. Norm Chow is sticking with the pro style offense and opening it up with more WR's. Similar to the Boise State of before last nights debacle. The RnS/spread offense doesn't work unless you really know how to coach it. Boise found that out last night.

    Sometimes when you try to fix what your not very familiar with and its not broken, you brake it! And Peterson and his young OC tried just that and now he back pedaling to the staple Pro Style, trick play, hodge podge of plays and schemes Boise Offense with a Tight End. And getting away from the spread/read option no TE offensive scheme similar to the RnS. This is why you can add a little here and there but when you change the whole offense playbook it usually leads to growing pains and losses. The Boise defense can only do so much, if your spread/read option offense cannot put up points, your done. Hawaii is had the similar issues last season and lets see what happens this season.


  80. Independent Thinker:

    Did I misspell deficiency? Or deficient? Is that what all this hooting and hollering is all about?

    My auto correct comment was directed at the extra words inserted by my iphone, i.e., whereas the original post read as follows:

    "Excuse, excuse, excuse. Blame the o line. Blame the receivers. Blame everyone except the graham and chow, the two people who really should be blamed. That sure is a winning formula.

    You can't correct a deficiency if you do not admit your are deficient on that area."

    Without autocorrect it would have read as:

    Excuse, excuse, excuse. Blame the o line. Blame the receivers. Blame everyone except the (strike "the") graham and chow, the two people who really should be blamed. That sure is a winning formula.

    You can't correct a deficiency if you do not admit your (strike "your", insert "you") are deficient on (strike "on", insert "in") that area.

    ...auto correct inserted the wrong words in the original post, substituting "your" for "you," and "on" for "in", etc. That is what I talked about when I said damn autocorrect. Autocorrect had nothing to do with the word deficient or the word deficiency, which is what ST latched on to and found humorous.

    Dude, if I post from my phone, which i sometimes do, it is highly likely words will be left out or extra words will be included, or some words might be misspelled. If that is the source of your attempt at making a funny and for insinuating I don't know how to spell, then that is truly funny, but I understand.

    That being said, it's all good.


  81. jimmy the lock:

    From my perspective, the source of funny is making excuses.


  82. NotNasti:

    Today's blog title should be "Mud Skills", as in the mudslinging going on today.


  83. Old School Dave:

    Missed the bus this morning going to work. Damn you Norm Chow and Taylor Graham!! Was their fault!! :-)


  84. Old School Dave:

    Saw a guy sitting in a booth at Zippy's looking flustered. Suddenly, he yells out, CHOWWWWWWWWWW!! Just like George Costanza in Seinfeld.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3xopNvnyps


  85. Independent Thinker:

    I have no problem old school dave, if you like to putt from the rough and if you like to cover up for whoever you want to cover up for. Not a problem. To each his own and do what makes you happy, dude.

    I calls um as I sees um.

    Doesn't sit well with some. That's ok. I have already accepted this will be a two win season, at best, for the reasons previously stated. That's ok.

    Could change, if changes are made.

    Things left as they are, two wins tops.

    As an alum (undergrad only), it pains me to see my school do poorly. It can do better. It must do better.


  86. Shoko:

    I think if Chow didn't let go Aaron Price some of the blame going around might be deflected towards him. I wonder what he thought of last week's game. If I had to guess it would probably be relief.


  87. Independent Thinker:

    jimmy, you are in a 8 ft dinghy, five miles offshore, in 12 foot swells; best to turn your dinghy around and head for shore, putt around in the harbor, dude.


  88. whitey:

    3 prong and col A house, Yahoo, it is back to the north country soon for some serious hand to hand combat with cohos.


  89. haka:

    Teams are constantly making changes. You game plan according to your opponent. Graham has played one game. ONE. If everyone here was evaluated on their job in one day we'd all be benched. In fact, if you are working right now and blogging, you should be replaced.


  90. Boolakanka:

    Aloha -- in da islands !


  91. jimmy the lock:

    Funny joke comprehension should be a prerequisite. Whoosh.


  92. tom-warriornation:

    this Sat. OSU road game--Sept. 7

    $42 each for eight (8) 10 yard sideline seats BEHIND OUR WARRIOR BENCH

    $UH ticket office price is $60 (for endzone seats)

    Email me: tomkitaguchi@yahoo.com


  93. jimmy the lock:

    Warm welcome to Wendy Anae to Wahine Basketball!


  94. d1shima:

    *burp*

    :oops:


  95. bowwar:

    It's only the first game...Things will take time to improve and the team could use our support rather than being part of the adversity. We may not win as many games as we'd like, but as long as the effort is there, I'm proud of the team. The offense being "out of sorts" is a reflection on Chow and his lack of an OC...Too bad, if he didn't like Price, he should have gotten rid of him sooner and found a replacement.


  96. gobows:

    dont expect the same osu team this week. eastern washington had their own johnny football playing qb. vernon adams was the leading rusher going for 107 yards on 16 carries and 2 td's and consistently bought time with his feet.

    not to mention he threw for 411 yards on 23-30 passing, with 4 td's, 0 int's. he was sacked 3 times for 26 yards.

    eastern washington converted 50% on 3rd downs and had 31 1st downs.

    hawaii would have a better chance with a more mobile qb...does ewaliko really need to be redshirted?


  97. Independent Tool (thinker):

    hey guys! did you see that tl;dr post I made making grammatical corrections and musing about the proper ways to spell the word "deficiency" on my iphone? Also entertaining was my thinly veiled jab at ST for not making a funny funny enough, but the joke's on me, because I completely missed the point of ST's jab at me. Namely, me knee jerk replying that any updates on the line practicing harder and lineup shuffles are just "excuses excuses excuses" covering up Taylor Graham being the worst qb on the planet and Norm Chow being a senile old coach.

    But really, I only do this because I care. As a UH alumni (undergrad only, mind you, becuase this is extremely important to point out), it causes me great sorrow and pain to see the UH football team do poorly because of one person and one person only: Taylor Graham. I'm sorry you guys don't see it that way, but I call it as I see it. Because I'm always right.


  98. Independanttrollloser:

    Why don't we ease up a bit on expectations. Expectations from everyone else in the world is that we lose by 4 touchdowns. Expectations before the season was we may lose the first 3-4 games.

    What changed? A defense? It was great but remember the USC quarterbacks sucked. It wont be like that this week. Also with the quarterbacks sucking we could go all out blitz style. Wont be like that this week.

    We will lose, but I will still go to the games and hope for a better end of the year.


  99. hightide:

    Maybe Aaron Price's offensive strategy was to change the personal at the QB position if it was not working out and maybe that is why he got fired. SC came in with 2 QBs and won. We had 1 who the coach selected from the end of last season as the number 1.
    There was no competition at that position. I guess that is how you develop Heisman candidates.


  100. Independent Tool (thinker):

    lol hightide: maybe aaron price was released because he forgot to put extra cream in norm chow's coffee that morning, and because of that, he got the axe. I mean, as long as we're wildly speculating what happened and then concluding that he's a bad coach, might as well go all the way, right?


  101. gobows:

    newest wahine: angelina sunye smith, 6-0, 200, 18" vertical, 110 max bench???

    "I have fully recovered from my acl/meniscus injury and have lost 8% of my body fat."

    http://new.berecruited.com/athletes/1320291


  102. Independanttrollloser:

    Whats with thinking Higgins is any good? Give me a break. I have watched practice. He is not that fast and does not have a good arm. He barely made the 2 point conversion.

    OUR OTHER QB's SUCK...Get over it.


  103. papajoe2:

    Just got back from a CC with Rainbow Cliff, his wife and his mother-in law. Had a great time with many of Tsaikos that were there. Mahalo, Kekoa for setting this up and to all the Tsaikos that help celebrate RC's homecoming.


  104. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal:

    Hightide: USC didn't win because they played two qbs. The only reason they played both was because Lane Kiffin has no idea who to start, Wittek or Kessler. He used the Hawaii game as a tryout and hoped that one of them would distinguish themselves from the pack but it blew up in his face when both of them stank up aloha stadium. Almost all successful winning teams (and unsuccessful losing ones) at any level, from high school to college to the NFL have one established starter at quarterback and they roll with him unless he starts flaming out after several games and isn't getting any better.

    As far as the offense goes, having a mobile quarterback to run a funky zone-read blur oregon ducks offense is in vogue now, but that doesn't mean it's necessary to succeed. There are always trends in football, and right now mobile quarterbacks are the trend, but if you run a pro-style offense, and you recruit for a pro-style offense, then sure, you'll incorporate some zone read concepts, but ultimately you stick to what you're supposed to be good at. Oregon runs the blur. Alabama runs pro-style. June Jones still runs the run and shoot, regardless of how mobile or immobile his quarterback is. You have a base offensive philosophy and you run it and make adjustments during the course of the season.

    Give it some time to develop.


  105. NotNasti:

    I think Ikaika Woolsey made the 2pt. conversion.


  106. NotNasti:

    Re: Aaron Price, the word about him was lack of work ethic. He should have been fired for cause.


  107. Former UH Athlete:

    The OLine shake up is 100% necessary. After re-watching game, only two of the seven sacks were due to Graham holding the ball too long...the other five were unblocked blitzers or whiffed blocks.

    Time for Griffen to step in and step up.


  108. (Jesse)James:

    #92....Boo....are you back home for a visit???


  109. Independent Tool (thinker):

    NotNasti: I blame Taylor Graham.


  110. dannyp:

    113

    If Graham gets sacked by an unblocked blitzer its on him for not hitting his hot read...


  111. NotNasti:

    Apparently, he (Price) did too.


  112. Independanttrollloser:

    who cares, all the back ups are bad. bad. bad.


  113. Independanttrollloser:

    Guys we allowed 40 sacks last year. We are on pace to almost double that with our 7 sacks already.

    ITS NOT the qb its the line. IT IS HORRIBAD....


  114. NotNasti:

    The game was moving too fast for Graham on Thursday. With each game snap and film review, it will slow down for him. Unfortunately for him (and Chow), there are a lot of impatient people out there (and on this blog).


  115. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal:

    Dannyp: not necessarily. The communication between the receiver and the qb may be bad so the receiver didnt' break his route in anticipation of the blitz. Maybe the blitz was supposed to have been picked up by the linemen or the running back but they just whiffed on their blocks or got confused and didn't even put a man on him. The entire offense needs to get it together, especially the line, and also the quarterback. They're working on it. We'll see the how the progression goes in the next few games.


  116. 3-Prong:

    whitey: remembered you said you were heading up in September. Good luck up there...Load Em Up! Never had the pleasure of catching a silver, only reds and kings. Looks like they jump more than the other types. Best tasting IMO.


  117. gobows:

    how did ben clarke grade out? from what i could see, he did pretty good when #90 was lined up over him.


  118. dannyp:

    And if they keep blitzing effectively its on Chow for not building in constraint plays to make them pay. Whether it be a simple HB screen to St Juste or a packaged concept like Zone Read/Bubble screen. Knowing you have a rookie QB and that your line is the most likely deficiency on your O and not compensating for it is baffling. Hope they fix it.


  119. Boolakanka:

    114 yups, anyone want to do a sidestreet night, let me know ... I gotta an expense account that needs spending..lol


  120. Former UH Athlete:

    109... Kiffen isn't going to survive past this year. At this point, the only reason he's not fired yet is that the AD has his back. The boosters don't like Kiffen, the vast majority of fans and alumni I know all hate Kiffen. Once USC has another middling year, the boosters will get more vocal.

    Lane isn't a good game manager proven again by him wasting TOs all throughout the game vs Hawaii. That's going to cost USC a game or two down the road.

    I can see why USC was such a power when Kiffen and Chow were there. Both of these guys can really recruit.


  121. dannyp:

    122

    True, I saw some missed blocking assignments by the RB's. Thats where losing Iosefa really hurts. Best RB Pass-Pro wise and we don't give away the play like we do with Langkilde. Hopefully we see improvement this week.


  122. (Jesse)James:

    #126 Boo...e-mail me at jgo8464822@aol.com with contact info....We may be setting something up on Friday....if you're still here.


  123. RedZone:

    Welcome home Wendy Anae. Coach Beeman does not disappoint when it comes to the hiring of assistants.


  124. RedZone:

    They don't recruit at SC. They evaluate. Then they pick and choose. When Chow was up there I remember him saying something about how they recruited dlinemen and turned them into olinemen.


  125. gobows:

    the coaching staff has a new name for brenden daley...great white. as in great white shark.


  126. d1shima:

    It seemed to me that there were a few attempts to slow down the pass rush by calling a few screens and swing passes to the RB's but whether it was the speed of SC's defense or lack of speed because of inexperience by the offense, 2 or more of those ended up with passes to the dirt (field turf) so that the RB wouldn't get blown up.


  127. d1shima:

    Echoing ppj2's post. Nice seeing erryboddy and welcoming Rainbow Cliff and Mrs. Rainbow Cliff and Mom.


  128. Wes'side Warrior:

    Howzit, Gang!

    Echoing PPJ2 and d1... I love getting together with all you guys! Love talking story and crack up at all the jokes and everything!

    So good to have finally met Rainbow Cliff & 'ohana!

    Mahalo to Kekoa for putting it all together too! Glad that it was in an area that my car could reach! Wish I could join you all this Saturday, but my car definitely won't make it that far... unless they allow me to plug in my battery charger while we're there! Hahaha!


  129. Independent Thinker:

    The O line did fine. Go back to the tape and check. If an O line can give a qb at least three seconds to throw, which is what the O line did for most of the game, then that is a decent O line. We have a decent O line. Any time an O line can give you more than three seconds consistently, then you have -- in the words of a former client who is currently an NFL O lineman -- an all-american O line.

    We don't have an all-american O line and that is ok. At most, our current O line will give you three seconds to pass, assuming no blitz. That is pretty darn good, last time I checked. If blitz, then you have one to two seconds to get rid of the ball.

    This being what it is, norm has to plan for this truth and limitation. Graham has to plan for this too. The failure to plan for this truth and eventuality is the cause for UH's woes.

    I agree with the poster who said norm is running plays where routes take 5 seconds to execute, where the line is capable of only giving you 3 seconds to pass. This is not a failure of the O line. It is giving you what it can. A Tundra will never outrun a M3. A Tundra is a truck; a M3 was made for the autobahn. As coach and as QB, you have to plan around this. Seems like norm wants the the team to operate like a M3, but he is driving a pick up truck. It's a pick up truck, norm, and no matter what you do to it - headers, exhaust, chip, etc. - it will not keep up with or beat a M3.

    Accept this truth and then plan around it. You stand a better chance.

    Just win!

    Otherwise, voluntarily step aside and let someone else step up.


  130. Former UH Athlete:

    #117, The RB is suppose to pick up blitzers the Line doesnt account for post snap... and they missed several. A lot of it is inexperience. Pretty sure Wily didnt do much pass blocking/blitz pickup work at Kahuku. QBs rely in the RBs to get a piece of blitzers to give an extra 1/2 second to read/react.

    The OLine and RBs all have blocking schemes/assignments that adjusts as the defense aligns. To make it work properly, everybody need to be on the same page and read and make the proper adjustments. They just have to execute better. Again, it was game 1 and a ton of players saw their first D1 action.

    If the rush gets to the QB in less than 1.5 seconds at the college level, there's not a lot a QB can do. You just hope they don't get careless and turn it over.

    All QBs wish they could have the protection Florida St gave their new QB Winston. Not sure if Pitt even touched him more than 3 times all game. That was ridiculous in a good way.

    In the OLine and freshmen RB's defense...
    USC's new DC, Clancy Pendergast, did throw the full gauntlet of blitz packages at them. They used all different types of blitzes. Safety, LB, delayed, stunts and zone blitzes. UH isn't likely to see that much talent and that complex of blitz scheme the rest of the year. Pendergast has a very impressive résumé of the years (DC at Houston Oilers, Dallas Cowboys, Arizona Cardinals, KC Chiefs)


  131. Former UH Athlete:

    The OLine did do a better job after halftime. Graham had more time to throw and made some quality throws. Too bad there were a handful of drops and one interference no-call on a perfect deep ball.

    Pretty obvious there were nerves and USC's front 7 are really good.

    Work in progress and I have full confidence it will get better. The sky isn't falling. Some folks need to relax.


  132. Independent Tool (thinker):

    If you guys didn't notice, post #134, I mean, really. This just betrays how ignorant I actually am about football, offensive line play, and coaching in general. I mean, to say that the offensive line has NO issues and it's all on the quarterback, regardless of what more knowledgeable posters, analysts, sports writers, former athletes, and also, coaches, can clearly see and point out to, but wait. wait wait. what am I talking about. I'm always right!

    All offenses need to run their plays in three seconds. I specifically sat there with a stopwatch and timed the plays against USC, and there was at least three seconds to throw. And the amount of seconds is the only metric of measurement for line play. It's all Taylor Graham's fault. So really, there are ZERO problems with the line. ZERO.

    Get over it. I'm right. Just win, baby.


  133. Independent Tool (thinker):

    Going off my stopwatch and revised sabermetrics and my uncanny football instincts and scholarship, as well as my deep pool of caring and tenderness I have for the UH football team, I predict with Graham and Chow at the helm, Hawaii will have a -12 win season. It'll be so bad, they will retroactively revoke some of UH's past wins in other seasons. Anyone who disagrees with me putts from the rough and are just making excuses for their deviciciencies.

    I mean, "deficiencies." Goshdarn iphone. Goshdarn rough-putters. Just win.


  134. gobows:

    why did they go 5 wide and take the sack, twice? no evidence of a hot route either.


  135. Independent Tool (thinker):

    Come to think of it, the fact that my phone sometimes autocorrects incorrectly... man, how can that be? It's Taylor Graham's fault. It just HAS to be. First singlehandedly losing the USC game, now this??? We need to stop making excuses for him.


  136. turfwar:

    #116 Totally agree Notnasti. Thanks.


  137. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal:

    I don't get it. Why are we accusing others of being gay or gay advocates? Is that even an insult anymore? What are we, in third grade?


  138. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal:

    actually, on second thought, don't answer that. I'm gonna take Independent Thunker's advice (#143) and not feed the troll.


  139. rocky:

    ST,

    Mahalo nui! Hope he gets accepted! If he's accepted, would he be eligible by next fall?


  140. NotNasti:

    146. I agree w/Johnny. When you stoop that low, that means you are incapable of a thoughtful, insightful, lancer-like comeback. I have higher expectations for IT.


  141. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal:

    uh.. okay. Established by you, I guess. I'm not shoko. Shoko has probably been posting here for longer than I've even been aware of this blog. I have no idea who Independent Thunker is, but he's entertaining. And I'm pretty sure all of us don't have the same IP, or if we do, that's weird. But maybe we're going through the same proxy? Those exist too. There are a lot of explanations for that kind of stuff. I suggest you google them.

    But that's okay, IT. You're always right. *pats on shoulder


  142. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Great to see braddah Rainbow Cliff and the 'ohana! Love to all of you! :) :) :) :) :) :)


  143. Tofuzuke:

    ST Can we have a delete key? IT, has no clue that we're tired oh his BS. Brah, get a life!


  144. Ipu Man:

    This blog sort of reminds me of the coyote and road runner cartoons...
    beep-beep!


  145. Hilo Moon:

    Today's Warrior Beat ... huh?


  146. madeinhawaii:

    next Sunday we can all input our theories again... can't wait.


  147. Former UH Athlete:

    Oh snap.... Oregon St opened at (-27) over Hawaii. Total opened at 54.

    86% of the early tickets being punched for Hawaii.

    Too early to make a score prediction as I need time to digest the numbers. Although I'm leaning to the under and Hawaii to cover again. The under will look good until the OLine sorts itself out.


  148. AllG:

    David Lefotu had a very poor performance. I had high hopes for him this year and I watched the tape again and he was getting beat on almost every play and was getting pushed back in the run game. I can see why now he was demoted early in camp. I criticized Loyd's performance, but he actually did an ok job. He got beat a few times but not as often as I originally thought. Lefotu on the other hand was barely even slowing his guy down. We need to move Milovale and Afusia to guard and Koloamatangi or Griffin to the spot opposite Shigematsu.


  149. observation only:

    i think chow has recruited well this year. has not coached well yet. i still have faith ;(
    d coordinator has shown improvement. o-coordinator has not.
    graham will get better. receivers need to do a better job at catching and route running. They showed a lot of inexperience and make him look worse then he is. i really dont care how big and fast they are. potential means nothing at game time
    .o-line needs to mesh. but will certainly improve.
    i like the kick off return kid. and harding will get his returns at punting.
    i love hardings punts!
    defense looked real good. we will see how good they really are saturday. the samia kid on dline impressed me. although i watch on t.v.
    lets go BOWS!


  150. lava:

    Let's run for 1.5 yards every play. If Chow reads that we know his secret weapon, maybe he'll move on to something more exciting, like slow-developing screen plays well behind the line of scrimmage, where the qb throws behind the intended receiver to make the play more difficult.


  151. AlaWai:

    RW's 24 Brazilian Landing Zone 17


  152. AlaWai:

    Oh if we lose, I'm blaming George's Bush.


  153. Jeezy33:

    163. He's been terrible every game... Been trying to say it..
    Glad finally throwing new recruits into the fire like griffin


  154. Former UH Athlete:

    163... Spot on. I too was surprised Lefotu had such a bad game. I really like the RBs but they had no holes to run through.

    I think its important to get the RBs running vs OSU. Based off what I saw in their loss to EWU, their D line is thin on talent and depth. If UH has any shot at pulling the upset, UH needs to wear out the OSU DL with a healthy serving of Iosefa, Wily, Lakalaka, Langklide and St Juste... that will slow down their already shaky pass rush. Establishing the run game with open up the passing lanes off play action.

    Keeping things in perspective, UH is a bigger underdog to OSU than USC. I've calculated this as a loss on my season predictions. OSU does have two rock solid QBs. They won't blow you away with talent or arm, but they are very smart with the ball and don't make many mistakes. I thought ghe UsC QBs would give UH's D 4-5 opportunities and they delivered (UH got a safety and an INT, but failed to turn that into points). UH likely wont see that many mistakes from Mannion. Smart QBs might only make 2 bad throws/decisions per game, UH hopefully UH can take advantage.

    Mike Riley usually likes a balance offensive calling so that bodes well for UH's defense. OSU got caught in a surprise shoot out and threw much more than what they normally do. EWU didn't put up any resistance so why not stop throwing?


  155. Former UH Athlete:

    I hope Tavita Woodard can continue to disrupt the passing game. 3 tipped passed is awesome for a lineman. At some point UH is going to turn those tips into turnovers.

    NeQuan, Maggitt, Jackson and JH-T need to keep their swagger! These 4 are playing with great confidence and need to keep it up.

    I see Kaumeyer is comfortable with leaving NeQuan or Maggitt on an island from time to time. They did quite well containing Marqise Lee and Nelson Agholor. Lee only got yards once the defense started to wear down. Kessler's lone TD pass was a perfect pass and Agholor was covered very well. Just have to tip your hat on that one.


  156. Former UH Athlete:

    Excerpts from OsU article...
    --
    The Beavers' defense had several problems on Saturday: broken coverages, bad positions and angles, sloppy downfield tackling and an inability to stop the Eagles on third down.

    Injuries led coach Mike Riley to decide against holding live scrimmages during fall camp, which led to speculation that the players might have been rusty.

    "Until we fix it there is major concern," Riley said.
    --

    Riley's quote at the end isn't a rousing shot of confidence for Beaver fans. I saw some of the replay and EWU had receivers running wide open in the secondary. So wide open even Tim Te ow would have hit a few of them for TDs. EWU was doing a nice job of using half rollouts to protect QB V. Adams, anticipating they couldn't handle OSU's line straight up. OSU didnt get close to Adams on most plays I saw.


  157. Derek:

    Just me, but I'm not buying USC. I wouldn't be surprised if Wazzu give them a lot of problems, even in LA. On the other hand, Oregon St. just had a bad day against a mobile and hot QB. Not likely to happen this week.


  158. slenzi:

    #54. NaKoa Mike, thanks for the great links. Really good stuff.
    Angry Beavers??? Is that going to be suitable for children?


  159. UH4eva:

    Get that running game going! Go Warriors.


  160. cocobean:

    Getting off on the wrong foot.

    I was at the game but haven't seen the replay. On the first offensive snap we went empty. This was one of the few formatitions that USC had film on from last year. It looked like USC had a set play to attack this formation. The rush was in Graham's face before he had time to react. Without the benefit of seeing the replay can't really say it was a blitz or just the front five but I'm pretty sure the sack was from the middle and not from the ends.

    No better way to dent the confidence of a QB who is taking his first meanful snap in four years than to put him on his back. Quickly at that.


  161. Warrior Dave:

    IMHO, it all starts with the oline. It they can't protect the QB, he will get sacked, hit, be inaccurate and throw interceptions. If the oline can't open holes our running backs can't gain positive yards.

    If the oline was not a problem, then the coaches and fans could make a better accessment of the QB and running back plan. So to nit pick now is not possible for me so I will shut my trap as to not offend anyone.


  162. Dateline:

    Independent Thinker, Lava and Jeezy are creeps which obssess on college guys. Gross.


  163. Konoman1:

    Well whoever you are Hana.. Hope your nephew Marcus writes better than you!!!


  164. gobows:

    i would take the over. hawaii is good for 16 points, osu probably will get their average.


  165. Leron:

    #157 agree with NeQuan's coverage on the TD. the pass was perfect. NeQuan almost got his hand on the ball and was right with the receiver.


  166. al:

    sorry I missed the rainbowcliff cc today.
    of all days, I had the laser blast in the right eye.


  167. al:

    glad to see griffin climb out of the doghouse.


  168. al:

    and the aaron price thing had nothing to do with coaching philosophy, style, or anything to do on the field.

    it was off the field activities that caused his ruin.


  169. NotNasti:

    Re: Aaron Price, Chip off the old block?


  170. Inyoface:

    The defense got a little help from Lee dropping a 4 down pass that would've been a 1st down and a dropped td pass.


  171. Konoman1:

    I agree with just ignoring the trolls....


  172. kev-1:

    Any word on Kennedy today?