Field work

September 16th, 2013
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After two days of rest, the Rainbow Warriors are back in business, with meetings this morning, and a weight-lifting session and practice this afternoon.

They installed outlines of the game plans last week, and will make amendments in practices tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday. They depart Thursday afternoon ahead of Saturday's road game against Nevada.

138 Responses to “Field work”

  1. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!


  2. d1shima:

    Great Morning All!

    IS IT SATURDAY YET?


  3. d1shima:

    Howzit tommui. All the best to you and your Bride! :-)


  4. Stephen Tsai:

    d1:
    Every day is Saturday ... in a house with DVR.


  5. d1shima:

    Hope the team has a great week of game prep.

    Hope The Blog Host has success keeping his secret stash "safe" for his trip to Reno. ;-)


  6. d1shima:

    True. And some who have "Whole House DVR" can have Saturday in every room!


  7. d1shima:

    Bless the Navy Ohana in D.C.


  8. Hank:

    Good Morning Gang!

    Looking forward to the return of Joey, Billy, Kennedy, "Great White", Jordan and Lance.


  9. d1shima:

    Have a great day erryboddy!

    HiHo....


  10. LizKauai (iPad):

    Aloha Kakahiaka!
    Throw and catch... Throw and catch...


  11. haka:

    Go Warriors!
    Go Wahine!
    Go Hawaii!


  12. Stephen Tsai:

    It would be interesting if Aloha Stadium played the "Jaws" music every time Daley made a tackle.


  13. Maddog50:

    Sure hope the theme of the week is great progress and fresh in the teams mind is last years loss and events that occured.....get that OL revved up for some collisions and control.....Go Warriors!!!!


  14. Bugaz:

    Best of luck Warriors! Have a productive week and stay healthy. Hoping we can get some production out of some recovered Warriors.


  15. Former UH Athlete:

    From Scout . com:

    5 of the top 15 local have verbal commits to UH... 4 other top 15 prospects have UH in their top 5 choices.

    --

    From 247sports:

    UH has verbal commits from their top 6 local prospects on their ratings. 247 also has a composite ranking and the composite rankings show 6 of the top 14. Example: Larry Tuileta is #3 on their state ranking, but #6 on their state composite ranking. Dakota Torres is the #1 prospect on the ranking, but #10 on the composite... so no idea how 247sports works their magic.

    --

    Rivals only lists the top 5 recruits and Tuileta is on it. Somehow, Faga Wily is on the 2014 top 5 on Rivals.

    Lamone Williams is still undecided but UH is in the running. Wily and Wa'a hopefully are talking to him.
    I know UH is bound to lose a couple at signing time, which happens everywhere, every year.

    Because of the remoteness of Hawaii, many of the prospects tend to be underrated by the recruiting services. All these mainland schools wouldn't go after so many locals players if they were truly 3 or 2-stars. Just an example is Marcus Mariota, he was a 3 star in the 2011 class. I have Mariota in my top 5 QBs in the country and one of the top NFL QB prospects in a couple years.

    So far, great job by Chow and the staff on the recruiting front.

    I really like Manly Williams' film. He's listed as a LB/S on the recruiting sites, but I see him fitting in at OLB opposite Garcia-Williams. Not sure if he's quite fast enough to play safety, but he's got excellent closing speed for a OLB and shouldn't lose much speed/quickness once Beemer adds some poundage to his frame.


  16. PolyMom:

    Praying for no injuries!

    Go Warriors!!!


  17. boolakanaka:

    This week's game, I think, will be an inflection point for the rest of the season. Obviously over-matched in the first two games from a talent perspective, the Warriors are playing "in their league," so to speak. Win this week, and a potential 7+ win season is palatable. We lose, well, my own gut says it will be about a 4 win season.....but, just my 2 cents.


  18. Rodney:

    What time is practice this afternoon ?
    Imua warriors and lady warriors!!!!


  19. boolakanaka:

    Anyone check out the Seahawks last night....damn, they got some beasts at DB.....Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman, and Kam Chancellor. Plus, they are huge on the back end.....Richard and Kam are 6'3 plus and 220+, they beat all the 49ers WR matchups--impressive.


  20. Former UH Athlete:

    3 names to watch for immediate impact in 2014... Transfers: Kory Rasmussen, Jeremy Castro, and Quinton Pedroza.

    The 2014 prep recruits look exciting so far, but most won't make an impact until 2015 or 2016. Kory, Castro and Pedroza are dynamite talents that will be eligible in 2014.

    Pedroza committed to Utah while Chow was there and turned down offers from Arizona St (Dennis Erickson), Boise St (Chris Peterson), and Utah St (Gary Anderson). So he's a quality talent if those coaches wanted him.


  21. Former UH Athlete:

    19... yeah... Seatterol looked really good on defense. How bout that crowd noise? The 49ers had all sorts of issues with communication.

    If the Hawks can win home field advantage, I think they get to the Super Bowl. I doubt anybody beats them at CenturyLink Field this year.


  22. boolakanaka:

    21-FUMA I have been to several Hawks games, and that noise has no rival at all. The acoustics just rebound from one side to the next, plus you can actually feel the stadium move--which is always cool. But, that Kam dude is a monster, seriously, he could play will in a second--personally, I think he is closer to 240--that's a lot of DB in the box.


  23. DaveLetterMan:

    ST
    Someone should tell the UH band to play the "Jaws" theme. I know they did before but now they'll have a reason to play it.


  24. Former UH Athlete:

    17... I have UH at 6 wins tops but probably 5. I predicted UH will win 4 of the last 7 (UNLV, CSU, SDSU, & Army). Just a matter of how many of the first 5 they win.

    I chalked up USC and OSU as losses before the season. Nevada is definitely winnable with Nevada's injury issues. I have Fresno and SJSU as losses.

    That puts UH at 5-7... right on schedule for the rebuilding. There's been noticeable progress in upgrading the athletes in the overall roster, only the OLine hasn't improved through recruiting yet.

    The Navy game is the one game that could swing UH to 6 wins. I predicted a loss as it's the 2nd leg of a ridiculous road trip immediately after Utah St (predicted loss).

    At home or with a bye week to prepare, I would have predicted UH to beat Navy most years.


  25. Former UH Athlete:

    That's the reason why Seattle draws the most false-starts/delay of games/premature timeouts in the NFL.


  26. Former UH Athlete:

    I've been to CenturyLink for a college game and at 3/4 full, it's ridiculously loud.


  27. boolakanaka:

    24--I certainly hope that we get to the 6 win mark. For whatever reason, I think, that win total will resonate with next years' recruits, and as the more nuanced football observer would say, season 3, is the much more accurate indicator of how far along we are under the Chow regime, e.g. playing with his own recruits and acclimation to his system. 6-7 wins is ambitious, but a couple snaps here and there in our favor, and it's doable. We lose this week, and well from a psychic level, the kids will be in a very volatile and exposed situation for the rest of the season.


  28. Dan-O:

    #26: Nothing compares to a Seahawk game there. The ENTIRE stadium stands and YELLS when the defense is on the field. I sat way up at the top, and everyone in those sections stand as well. Your only "break" is when the offense has the ball, then you can sit down.

    Hard to imagine, unless you've been there. TV doesnt do it justice. But yesterday, all you needed to see was Kaepernick in the huddle.... YELLING the plays out, as the rest of the team all strained to get their heads somewhere near him.


  29. (Jesse)James:

    Keep on working Warriors!!!

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

    One Game. One Team. One Goal.


  30. Ipu Man:

    Wonder what the weather will be like in Reno Saturday...


  31. Warrior Dave:

    Not good news coming out of Washington Naval Shipyard. 12 dead so far with multiple gunmen. That's got to impact over visit to play Navy in November. Going to be harder to attend visitor attractions.


  32. Capitolist/WassupDoc:

    For those of you who live in urban Honolulu who are interested in providing your positions/concerns to the UH Presidential Selection Committee, there will be a opportunity this week for you to speak to them. Additional opportunities will be scheduled throughout the state as well as more Neighborhood Board meetings over the next several months.

    KAIMUKI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD
    Wednesday, September 18, 2013
    Kaimuki Christian Church Fellowship Hall
    1117 Koko Head Avenue
    7:00 to 9:00 p.m.

    If you are interested in the discussions/decisions about the Capital Improvements Projects at UH-Manoa, then visit the Board of Regents' website - http://www.hawaii.edu/bor - and look at the meeting agendas or call 956-8213 to

    For those of you who are interested in the future of major collegiate and professional sports, go to the Moyers and Company's website - http://www.billmoyers.com - and watch his Friday night program featuring sports journalist and author Dave Zirin talking about "The Collision of Sports and Politics."

    Ignoring the incredible connections between collegiate & professional sports and politics does not make sense. We have the power to influence the future if we are willing to educate & inform ourselves.


  33. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Glad to be back on Saturday game prep schedule!


  34. jeezy33:

    FUHA, If you saw Williams play live, you would see other wise. Highlights are simply highlights and he got simply dominated by Kamehameha. Poor tackling, coverage, and needs to put on a lot of muscle. Not fast enough to play safety, and not sure he has the instincts, and physical ability to play LB.

    I see him grey shirting.


  35. Wes'side Warrior:

    Morning, Gang!

    Good to hear that most injured players will be available for this week's game at Reno. Looking for good things to come from this game.

    Twisted my left foot yesterday while cleaning up and rearranging our living room. I did the one thing I always preach to everyone NOT to do... stand on a folding chair to remove a wire going over the doorway. Can't walk at the moment.

    So, I took the injury so that all of our Warriorz remain injury-free. I think that's how it works, right? Using the reverse-voodoo kine stuff. Let's do this!

    And on a somber note... prayers to those affected by yet another senseless act... out in DC.


  36. jeezy33:

    You have to account that scout.com rivals have not seen any of these kids play and base their rankings solely off offers and those who attended camps. Guys like Brandon Huffman who is in charge of west hasn't even seen Gifford, Williams, or Stubblefield play. So can't pay much attention to those rankings.

    Watching games, Kingston Fernandez and Kalei Meyer would definitely be 2 of the higher ranked guys in the state but maybe just dont fit a need currently.


  37. Former UH Athlete:

    jeezy... true... that's why the Hawaii player rankings vary so much from site to site. If the scouting sites did their homework in Hawaii, or if Mariota had been from California, he would have been no worse than a 4-star.


  38. Independent Thinker:

    Watching Mariota move the Oregon Ducks O reminds me of all St Louis QBs moving the St Louis O. Watched both the Virginia game and the Tennessee game.

    No huddle. Trust the intelligence of the players. Fast paced. St Louis prepared Mariota well for the O run by Oregon. So glad it worked out for Marcus!!! Kalaepohaku is proud of you, Marcus.

    To think Mariota was Higgins back up; wow! Says something about Mariota and Higgins. Sons of Samoa, and sons of Kaleapohaku.


  39. ponojr:

    Polymom - Sorry, I didn't get a chance to reply to your post early this morning, but wanted to let you know that I did not attend Punahou. I graduated from another private school in Honolulu. And yes, Dr. Scott has made it a point to diversify the Punahou student body by awarding scholarships, financial aide, or whatever you want to call it to those with exceptional abilities. I just hope that applies to other areas besides the football field.


  40. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Congrats to Mita Uiato on her BWC POW award!
    Plus, UH moves up to #7!
    GO WAHINE!

    GO WARRIORS!


  41. Derek:

    You have to give some of Mariota's development to Darnell Arceneaux at St. Louis. At Mililani, Arceneaux ran the spread offense with Trent McKinney. And obviously, St. Louis has more athletes than at Mililani. In one year as a starter at St. Louis, he led the Crusaders to the State Title, All-State, and Offensive Player of the Year. The first time I saw him play QB at St. Louis and when he scrambled up the middle he was so fast I couldn't believe it. When I heard he ran the 40 in the 4.4s I said, Whoa! That blazing. For a QB that fast is rare. He is proving that every week at Oregon. I wouldn't be surprised that Mariota is the fastest QB in college football, certainly he's up there with Colin Kaepernick, and Michael Vick as far as being fast.


  42. boolakanaka:

    41--I love me some local boys, as much as the next guy, but while Mariota is elite fast, he is not in the company of Michael Vick, maybe not in even in the same neighborhood. When Vick was in the early stages of his career, he was a legit sub 4.4, and that is insane quick. He has even some sub 4.3 times...see; http://www.statisticbrain.com/fastest-40-yard-dash-times-in-nfl-history/ My locker was two down from the quickest guy in UH history, Mike Akiu, so I know what that looks like close up and everyday, but I hear what your saying, and Mariota has great wheels.


  43. Haleakala:

    Go Warriors!! You can gettum this weekend!!


  44. HiFlyer:

    Pomai 23 - 17 Hawaii


  45. madeinhawaii:

    Should Hawaii go on the road even more and play Colorado this year? Ask for a million and an half and then possibly donate 1/2 million back to help the victims of the flooding for some extra PR? http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/23681211/fresno-st-colorado-options-bleak-cal-cant-help


  46. d1shima:

    Coach Vinnie has been doing his QB clinics on weekends for years. The current HC has known this and was a visitor.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Witn9CHIk


  47. d1shima:

    Pomai,

    56 - 14 d1shima

    Jus makin' shua. ;-)


  48. JuneJonesleftusgetoverit:

    You know, if it is hard to get mainland players to come here...Wouldn't it be equally as hard to get local players to go to the mainland?

    What's sad is the overall feeling that UH is a subpar school to any other school in the pac ten or whatever bs BCS school.

    I can see Stanford...but the rest who cares. Do people in Boise tell their kids to move away? Nope...Only happens in Hawaii. Is Boise a better school than UH? Nope...


  49. NotNasti:

    Marcus Mariota: 4.48 sec. 40, Michael Vick: 4.36 40, RG III: 4.41 40, Terrelle Pryor: 4.38 40, Colin Kaepernick: 4.51 40, Mike Akiu: 4.27 40


  50. boolakanaka:

    48--Not true at all. The academic prospects at places like UCLA, CAL and even UW, from a research and academic peer level, are compelling reasons for any young person to consider going away. Both of the UC schools mentioned are on the perennial list of the top 10 public universities in the country, and some of their graduate programs are top ranked. UW has similar accolades, see: http://www.washington.edu/news/2011/09/13/uw-is-top-ten-public-us-news-says/

    So, if your from Honomu or Tallahassee, or any place in between, they make a lucid and cogent appeal to anyone who takes academics seriously.


  51. Independent Thinker:

    K Mark and D1: 10 days late and 50 cents short, but if you want to put more butts in those chairs, then recruit heavily and intensely from Punahou, Kamehameha, St. Louis, Farrington, Kahuku, and Waianae. Alum from these school will attend to watch alums and to cheer on sons, nephews, cousins, etc.

    When those schools play one another, the stadium is packed. If the sons of these schools are playing for UH, and not sitting on the bench, or playing elsewhere, then the stadium will be packed. I bet we win a bunch of games too.


  52. boolakanaka:

    49. You are correct, but let me clarify, that is Marcus', best time, and he several other times in the low 4.5 range, and thus he is probably on a consistent basis a high 4.4 or very low 4.5 guy, still very quick, and appreciable difference and quicker than Johnny Football. Conversely, Vick has consistently, at least his first 2-3 years in the league, ran a 4.3, and as has been documented notched unicorn like times in the 4.28 range.

    My point being, there is quick, and then there is..."where da hell is that mofo now.."


  53. NotNasti:

    Boola, I agree with you, but not 100%. If #48 is comparing UH to the other MWC schools, with the exception of Air Force, I can't think of a compelling reason to leave. Wyoming, Fresno, Boise, San Jose? The examples you use, UC schools, UW, are correct. They are fantastic institutions, and are fully funded research institutions. I have a child who was accepted into all of those schools, but chose to stay home because she needs to have one foot in the ocean . . . at all times.


  54. tommui:

    #39 ponojr

    About 11% of the students at Punahou are on financial aid.

    When St. Louis was at the top of the heap, people would say that the Crusaders must be paying or soliciting athletes. When I was much younger, people used to comment about Roosevelt getting top athletes - probably because of its status of being an English standard school.

    These rumors probably will always be circulating - wait until it's St. Francis' turn!


  55. NotNasti:

    Tommui, if 11% of Punahou's student body is receiving financial aid, what percentage of their football team is receiving financial aid? I would venture a guess that more than 50% of their football team is receiving financial aid. Don't get me wrong, If you can get a first-rate college preparatory education at little or no cost go for it. If you are from an underprivileged and/or underrepresented minority, even better.


  56. boolakanaka:

    53 And I cede to you. My example was based on PAC-12 schools, or those primary on the west coast. So, within the schools of our own conference, yes--we should not give up any ground academically, or for that matter, morally--just thought I would add that to add some confusion to the matter.

    My opinion if you have the chance to go to a great academic institution, please avail yourself--unless you are wedded to nalu!!!!


  57. NotNasti:

    52, Boola, I suspect Mariota's 40 time would be much slower on Lucas Oil Field in Indy, which hosts the NFL combine. It's known as a slow track. Mariota's a good athlete, but he is not freakish, like Mike Vick, RGIII and Terrelle Pryor.


  58. NotNasti:

    56, Boola, as parents, we were a little disappointed that our youngest did not "avail" herself. She worked so hard in high school to get her 4.3 gpa and perfect score on one of the SAT exams. She really could have gone anywhere she wanted. But we have gotten over it. The "full-ride" from UH helped to ease the pain.


  59. Leron:

    #57 financial aid rumors are fun for conspiracy theorists. Like when AOP made the state hoops semis two years ago.AOP?!?! Then the team disbanded, the school went kaput, and you wonder how they even got there.


  60. A-House:

    Hello, Hello to all the USC Tsaiko tailgaters - did you find a "red" bottle/can holder?

    It belongs to our good friend Ethel M who comes with us. Please bring it to the Fresno game.

    Speaking of Fresno, we have 2 tickets available @ $15 each. Let me know if you want it/them. Cash only!


  61. gobows:

    mita uiato selected big west player of the week

    http://www.bigwest.org/story.asp?SPORT_ID=8&STORY_ID=17214&utm_source=http://BigWest.org&utm_medium=twitter


  62. NotNasti:

    Good for Mita! I wasn't huge fan of hers until I went and saw a few matches in person this season. She has been all over the court this year, and has put up some really good sets from not so good passes. The honor was well-deserved.


  63. gobows:

    #49
    got a feeling mariota is faster than his 40 times. kinda like colin kaepernick. once kap gets rolling, no one in the nfl can catch him. noooobody.


  64. PolyMom:

    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/20130916pac-12-reprimanding-officials-asu-wisconsin-controversial-ending.html?nclick_check=1

    Here you go PAC 12 messed up,


  65. gobows:

    as a freshman, mita was a better setter than dani mafua. and dani was really good. coach shoji calls mita the best setter in the country. the junior national team thought so too.


  66. Former UH Athlete:

    40 times are overrated. Have no clue why they aren't measured in full pads and gear. Fast is fast, but some guys definitely lose speed once they are on the field.

    Example: Dave Reardon reported that Ryan Grice-Mullen ran a 4.33s during his pro day. RG-M never appeared to have anywhere close to that speed during his UH career. A 4.33s pro day (4.46s @ the combine) WR almost always gets drafted, even if the WR isn't polished in other areas. RG-M was a good route runner and had good hands to boot, but still went undrafted and never made a NFL roster. Which was surprising.

    The 3 cone drill and shuttle are more important as it measures quickness and explosiveness. I know the good scouts measure for 10y and 20y times, but it's too bad the major publications almost never post them.


  67. Former UH Athlete:

    63, Kaep's 40 time is only in the 4.5's because he has such long legs. Takes time to get those legs churning....

    Same thing applies to Usain Bolt. He's a really tall sprinter and it takes him some time to get going, but once he gets to top gear, it's amazing. If you watch his races, he's rarely leading after 20 meters.


  68. boolakanaka:

    58--Again I defer to both you sage mana'o and your current status of seer. On the topic of speed, many folks many not realize how fast Mike Akiu was back in the day--I proffer two vivid examples: Mike actually has documented races in which he beat Ron Brown, formerly of the Rams, but more to the point, Ron Brown was a member of the 4 X 100 team in the 84 Olympics that won the gold medal, Mike beat him a couple of times in the 60, before his transfer from Washington State; and many years after his last NFL game, I am thinking 94 or 95, Mike for sh*st and giggles went to the NFL pro day being held at Cooke, now he was not anywhere in football shape, probably near 34 or so---story goes he broke two 40s under 4.5, and was the quickest recorded guy there, and then got a couple inquiries about coming out as a free agent that summer.....he declined, stevedores have good benefits.


  69. Former UH Athlete:

    You know what would be a fun measurement.... If scouts would laser gun players at top speed, like the po-po gunning you down the Moanalua Freeway say about 8pm or so.

    If they measured top speed, I'm sure Kaepernick would be up there.


  70. (Jesse)James:

    Just to jump into the discussion a bit....A lot of parents and counselors, especially those from the college prep schools like St. Louis, Punahou, Iolani, Damien, etc. push their students/kids to get off of the island and explore the world and then return and make a difference. At least from my experience, a lot of my classmates went to mainland schools (about 88% of my class and 98% of us went on to 4 year institutions) simply to have the experience of living on their own and experiencing a whole new culture, not because they didn't think UH was a decent school. While most of them came back to Hawaii years later, some stayed on the mainland and put down roots there, especially if their major was more conducive to the mainland job market.

    Same thing goes for a lot of the top athletes in Hawaii. Many want to have that mainland experience, some have never left Oahu. Others feel that the "Bigger" schools give them more of an advantage with exposure to NFL scouts....but then again, you have guys like Jerry Rice who came from a very small school....LOL


  71. boolakanaka:

    67..Thats true, but he also has superior turnover once he gets going. So, the 100 is based on area covered per stride, and how quickly that stride is repeated. He is a freak in both areas....or the high muckty muck analysis:

    According to the Daily News, the researchers say that their model explains the power and energy he had to expend to overcome drag caused by air resistance, made stronger by his frame of 6ft 5in. The model begins by analyzing the record Berlin run. The model explains that Bolt's time of 9.58 seconds in Berlin was achieved by reaching a speed of 12.2 metres per second, equivalent to about 27 miles per hour.
    From this, the scientists explained that: Bolt's maximum power occurred when he was less than one second into the race and was only at half his maximum speed (Bolt had a maximum power of 2619.5 watts after only 0.89 seconds of the race). This demonstrates the near immediate effect of drag, which is where air resistance slows moving objects.
    The researchers also discovered less than 8% of the energy his muscles produced was used for motion, with the rest absorbed by drag. When comparing Bolt's body mass, the altitude of the track and the air temperature, they found out that his drag coefficient - which is a measure of the drag per unit area of mass - was actually less aerodynamic than that of the average person.
    Jorge Hernandez, co-author of the study told the Daily Mail that: "Our calculated drag coefficient highlights the outstanding ability of Bolt. He has been able to break several records despite not being as aerodynamic as a human can be. The enormous amount of work that Bolt developed in 2009, and the amount that was absorbed by drag, is truly extraordinary.

    Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/355343#ixzz2f6EURE3M


  72. boolakanaka:

    58--the full ride and the ever present nalu.


  73. Former UH Athlete:

    64... The Pac 12 refs are jealous that the Big 12 and Big Ten refs are getting too much headlines for poor officiating. So they decide to completely botch the end of the Wisc vs ASU game.

    The Pac12 won the worst officiated conference last year, but the Big 12 and Big Ten put in good entries this past week.

    Nothing is going to top the TCU vs Texas Tech officiating last week. That was unbelievably bad.


  74. Derek:

    You want better athletes and recruits? Would help if we get some great facilities to go along with that. You want something to sell the program, it's not enough to say great weather, and it's Hawaii. Let's get real. Athletes want to go where they have at least very good facilities to be competitive, i.e. weight rooms, locker rooms, academic study area, technology stuff, lounge areas, equipment, etc. etc. etc.

    Credit Boise State for really upgrading their stadium and the facilities around it. Obviously, Chris Peterson should take the lions share of the credit for it. I am still amazed how they are winning at this ungodly rate, year after year at the place like that. Peterson's all time winning percentage at Boise is well over 80%, more like 86% the best in college football, by a mile.


  75. (Jesse)James:

    #74...True dat. If you watched the Boise St. v. Air Force game, they showed the locker room facilities at BSU. They looked like a lot of NFL facilities, logo embossed carpeting, stainless lockers, 42 inch LED TVs, leather recliners....and so on.....


  76. boolakanaka:

    66...great point. Walter 'sweet pea" Murray, was a sub 4.4 guy and ran away from folks while in college. But, suddenly his arms grew much shorter, (aka croc arms) and his once smooth glide and steps became choppy and hesitant. On the other hand, it was the advent of the Kenny Easely and Ronnie Lott era of NFL safeties, and footsteps became far more audible.


  77. bowwar:

    Kapernick is fast, but definitely not lightning quick...I have a quick chuckle whenever I think about the play the ex-Castle LB (forgot his name) playing at UH caught up with Kapernick and knocked the ball of his hands as he tried to "style-it" over the goal line...

    As for Mariota, he's just so darn impressive...He's got it all: size, speed, and a live arm...Just a late bloomer who made a good impression at the mainland college camps with his measurables.


  78. UH_Fan_In_SD:

    Guys.. I grew up in Boise, ID and chose to go to UH... Parents in Boise know BSU has a terrible academic reputation and most of the kids who can afford to go elsewhere do.. I've never regretted going to UH over Boise.. Even in Idaho UH has a better academic reputation than BSU.


  79. NotNasti:

    I like Mariota, but we must keep things in perspective. He has so many weapons. He is making throws to receivers that are so wide open, the defenders are barely in the viewing area on the television, and his o-line gives him so much time to throw, he is never in any real danger of being sacked. In three games, Mariota has only been sacked twice. By comparison UH has given up 10 sacks, in two games.


  80. Buffoman:

    #78 That being said, then you can cross off "academic study area" as being a major piece (an after thought, maybe?)of the recruiting puzzle. Great lockers, big screen television, video games (technology) and the other things mentioned are probably major parts to how to get the athletic recruit.

    Thanks for the heads up on that one.


  81. Inyoface:

    Is Mariota from Nuuanu Valley?


  82. gobows:

    bowwar

    corey paredes. a walk-on.

    i remember watching a fight break out during practice back in 2007, john estes had false cracked the face of a scout team defender well after the play was over, seems like john messed with the wrong guy. had to look at the roster to find out who it was: corey parades, a true frosh.

    corey paredes pre-game meal: nothing. maybe that's the trick to playing fast. literally be hungry.

    john estes was a beast as a true freshman guard. overrated at center. kind of hard to give up a sack when you got nobody to block. estes was the leader of the oline that set the ncaa record for sacks.


  83. (Jesse)James:

    Well, I know that Jm####s is going to kill me but watching the Redskins playing the Packers yesterday and one stat that popped out at me was that RGIII and the offense was 2 for 17 on third down conversions in 2 games....that was stated during the 3rd quarter of yesterday's game. That's roughly a 29% conversion rate....My God, Shanahan should be fired for putting together such an unproductive offense.....LOL


  84. bowwar:

    Gobows: Yes, Corey Paredes...I couldn't believe he caught up with Kapernick and knocked the ball out of his hands...

    What ever happened to Estes...His time in the NFL was very short.


  85. jm2375:

    (J)J - I didn't watch the game, but the first game, the 'Skins offense looked like UH's. Don't know why Shanahan isn't starting Cousins for a least the first few games. RGIII didn't play at all during preseason.

    As for staying/going away for college - depends on the kid. I wanted to get off the rock and so did Screecher. One of my sisters went away and another stayed home. Screecher got into all the schools she applied to, but the amount of the merit scholarships some of the schools gave, relative to their cost, was not enough for us to give the school any serious consideration. It was just as bad as not being accepted.


  86. madeinhawaii:

    Polymom,

    So Wisconsin could have won if the refs did their job, eh? That's going to make a lot of people unhappy.


  87. PolyMom:

    Yup, I'm very unhappy. Don't they review plays? Now they are going to reprimand the officials? Give me a break. I could see his knee down on my DVR. I've been crazy about it. Even wrote to NCAA President. Are they on they on the come or what?

    Also FYI, just got off the phone with Punahou and 15-16 percent of the student body is on financial aide. So there you go folks! So 15-16 kids on the football team get help. Sorry we are not buying players. They said that back in my day with Tatupu, Uperesa boys. Get over it.


  88. jimmy the lock:

    Back in football mode, GO WARRIORS!


  89. jimmy the lock:

    PolyMom,

    How you figure that if 15-16% of the student body is on financial aid then 15-16 players on the football team are receiving FA? Math 2.0?


  90. jimmy the lock:

    Congrats to Mita Uiato! Kalei Adolpho played lights out too!


  91. Papololoco:

    With Fajardo hurt, do anyone think we got a chance in Reno on Saturday?


  92. (Jesse)James:

    #89....True. But I guess, just by averages, if 15 - 16 students for every 100 students are on financial aid....if the football team had 100 players, you'd be good to guess that 15 or so would be on financial aid. However, that doesn't mean that all 100 players are on financial aid....which could be 15 - 16 percent of 1000 or so students in total.

    Damien makes it easier...I believe just more than 50% of the student body is receiving some form of financial aid.....LOL


  93. jimmy the lock:

    (Jesse)James,

    If we going by averages then say 50% of the population is female then that could mean 50% of the football players are female? :lol:


  94. cocobean:

    I like our chances against Reno better than Wyoming or Navy. Road games are a bitch. We've been pretty competitive against Reno in Reno.


  95. WarriorMojo:

    Anyone who thinks Punahou doesn't recruit is probably not paying attention. Punahou always had a history of "recruiting" athletes. That came to a stop one year after one of their most accomplished athletes got into recurring legal problems off the field, prompting the administration to end most if, not all, recruiting efforts. Those efforts have of course since resumed.

    Look, if you really think Punahou doesn't recruit, please explain how Manti's dad ended up on staff.


  96. ponojr:

    I don't mind that kids and their families are awarded financial aid. But to solicit families to bring their kids to Punahou for athletics is just wrong!


  97. NotNasti:

    Ponojr: do you have something against Punahou in particular? Or are you against any school that recruits (offers financial aid to athletes)? Not judging you here, just a question I have. Because I think you are making a general statement, and not specifically condemning Punahou.


  98. boolakanaka:

    95...I think the question is not whether Punahou recruits, but whether those kids meet the broad band of admission criteria relative to other students accepted? All of us that played HS sports and then college, had our elementary and middle school coaches some how influence our decisions as Hawai'i is such a tight knit community, and at that point, my opinion-no harm--no foul.

    Thus, again, are high schools with fairly strident admission standards dipping below such criteria to meet laudable goals of underrepresented groups in Hawai'i, say Samoan, or under the guise of obtaining potential elite athletes? I can't say definitively, but I will throw this out there for whatever its worth--it's not like I see a bunch of micronesian kids getting recruited to Punahou; and back in my day, I know people, good friends of mines, who were really good athletes in either elementary or intermediate school, who were accepted into Punahou and their scores were not nearly close to mine. That said, there could have been other ancillary reasons, totally legitimate, but did they receive a little bump or nudge--sure they did, and they told me so....

    I place no umbridge on them or Punahou, there lives were hopefully made better, and at the end of the day, I think we all turn-out how it was suppose to be....


  99. PolyMom:

    100 players on the roster. That would be the average. Call Punahou they hide nothing,


  100. d1shima:

    ...the alumni and boosters though ;-)


  101. PolyMom:

    Let me say this having had a kid at Punahou, I went there, my Dad went there, his Dad went there and so did my Tutu. No one gets slack at Punahou. If you don't get the grades, you are OUT! I had several classmates asked to leave. Some came back after a year at other schools. No grades...you are out! Heck, my kid was almost kicked out for 1 F. Let me say this, he studied. Grounded until he could pull it together.

    Hey if you really want to know, call the AD. I'm still very involved. I'm on the SoCal BOD. We work very hard to keep close. Annual luau, mixers for and networking for the younger alumni. We pay for the lcal college kids to attend the lusu. give them free transportation to the event. Football weekend every other year. Jim Scott is a fantastic President. I have lunches and get together at my house every three months with my Punahou girlfriends. Heck one of the gals works in the front office for the Angels...we get excellent seats and have so much fun! We are Ohana. I'm so grateful to ave gone to Punahou, and yes I also received financial aide. I've tried to pay it forward.


  102. boolakanaka:

    A point of clarification on my post above...to be clear, what I was saying, is that any kid, public and/or private school, who has an athletic reputation prior to HS, gets recruited in some way or another. It may be a nudge to move to a school district, or it may be an encouragement to take just the test for private school. Shoots, just on my little 3-4 block radius growing up, I can count 4 all state football players that got DIV1 scholarships, (all private schools, and urged to go to particular ILH schools), a gal who played on two national championship v-ball teams, and a fellow who played triple-a ball--it's Hawai'i, and everyone wants to help out, and further they all have an alma mater.

    The possible perplexing moral Q, is whether a kid, who may not have had the same scores of Harold Kaneshiro (fictional) whose folks just worked at Daiei and played no sports, and took his possible spot at the school?

    No good answers--but does it happen--sure it does; no institution and/or entity is above reproach or its own agenda.


  103. mo808:

    Wow! No spam!

    Hope everyone had a good Monday thus far!

    Praying the RB Warriors enjoy a good injury free practice schedule this week, as well as a victorious win over Nevada this week!

    Keeping the DC Navy folk in prayer today...

    Go BOWS!


  104. oldie:

    Not to jinx things, but I also noticed no (or little) spam, accurate blog clock, and no nasty posts. What's going on?


  105. Old School Dave:

    Private schools do what they do because they're private. I have no problem with that. That's the reason the town public schools broke away from the old ILH. Former Farrington High Coach Al Espinda once commented that if he managed to keep half of the kids in his district who were lost to private schools, they would have been Prep Bowl Champs year in, year out. If a kid has an opportunity to attend a private school on financial aid, more power to him/her.

    On the other hand, you can be just as successful if you apply yourself and take advantage of the academic and athletic opportunities as a public school. Look at guys like Shawn Ching (Roosevelt High Class of 87), for example. My point being that just because you attended a public school should is an excuse for not excelling.


  106. Old School Dave:

    That should be:

    My point being that just because you attended a public school should NOT be an excuse for not excelling.

    No can type after 5:00 pm :-)


  107. 3-Prong:

    I have no problem with private schools offering financial aide to talented athletes, musicians, dancers, whatever..... It creates opportunities not otherwise available to some. Our President is a prime example of this. Manti and Notre Dame is another. I do have concerns, like Boo, when different standards are applied or whe financial aide gets out of hand in the auest for championships. My daughter went with a Punahou athlete who told her that during the season, homework wasn't required. Don't know if this was for one,some, or all of the classes, but there shouldn't be a double standard. My good friends daughter played club VB with Olevao who was a star volleyball and softball player. She said Punahou also paid for an apartment close to school to get her to go there. If this is true I think that this takes "financial aide" too far.


  108. Old Diver:

    If recruiting is defined as a coach asking a player if they are interested in playing for them then every school public or private recruits. The difference between public and private school recruiting as we all know is student aid (scholarships), academic tutoring and private school amenities and tradition. And it is a poorly kept secret that Punahou's uses the same duel curriculum strategy many private schools use on the mainland to achieve athletic excellence.


  109. boolakanaka:

    And in an extraordinary display of even further clarification, I am not trying to single our Punahou by any means. The fact is, that all the schools poach players from other schools, Radford poaches Aiea, Waianae poaches Nanakuli, Kailua poaches Kalaheo.....etc

    The situation just becomes more acute when there is an specific admission standard involved, and what if any, are the subjective means for elasticity with those articulated policies? No one is saying this, but for all the old school bruddhas on the board, we have all had the occasion, of having an elementary or intermediate classmate, who we knew probably since kindergarten, and well, maybe not so bright (shoots who isn't) and lo and behold, he ends up in private school. When you factor that he may have been a good athlete, it just raises fairly obvious questions. Is it anecdotal, you bet--does it still raise some questions--you bet!

    But, no school is innocent here...


  110. d1shima:

    Been sitting in the stands for ILH games for many years. With routine double and triple headers scheduled you get to see the supporters of all the schools sitting and cheering for their kids.

    It's interesting how a couple of schools have "transformed" in recent years into "reasonable facsimiles" of Hauula High School. :mrgreen:


  111. RedZone:

    Al Espinda went to Punahou.


  112. Truman:

    #93 Jimmy, forever the comedian. That was funny.


  113. cocobean:

    What is financial aid? Is the amount of aid the same across the board or are there different levels of aid.

    What % of the starters on Iolani, Punahou, St. Louis and Damien football teams are on FA.
    What % of their bands on FA? Is the amount of aid for a football player the same as a band member?

    Why do they call it FA instead of a scholarship?

    Funny how Kaiser and Kalani are attracting better athletes for their FB teams.


  114. kapakahi:

    #105 & #111,

    BTW......Al's son Nolan played TE for Iolani.


  115. kapakahi:

    Legendary UH pitching great Derek Tatsuno even attended Damien for a semester......before returning back to Aiea HS.

    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jul/01/sp/FP707010375.html


  116. kapakahi:

    #113,

    Financial aid is the new politically correct term nowadays......whereas everyone (including the teachers and students) used to openly use the term "scholarship" back in the day.

    Everyone on the team (and probably most of the student body) knew who was on "scholarship" back in the day when we played.


  117. Old Diver:

    113

    By the ILH's own rules athletic scholarships and recruiting are illegal. Hence scholarships are called financial aid. What frustrates some is not the giving out of scholarships or the high pressure recruiting, it's their denying it's going on.


  118. Ipu Man:

    I think the Bible calls it "Bribery"...


  119. Bugaz:

    Financial aid from unknown (to the student) private donors.


  120. PONO:

    I think the financial aid (scholarships) are not a bad thing. Look at how many talented kids at public schools that can't make grades to accept an athletic scholarship. The kids that go to Punahou and other ILH schools regardless of their financial aid are more likely to be academically qualified for college. This is simply because they are private and have more resources to dedicate to the athletes. Punahou even has an immersion program to help these transfers acclimate to the academic and social environment. It's a well run program that has helped many athletes succeed.


  121. nanakuli:

    Old School Dave is correct about Farrington. But, a lot of kids in Nanakuli go to Waianae, and a lot of Waianae kids go to St Louis and Kamehameha. I wish the students the best when they want to better themselves.


  122. kama krab:

    Howzit Everybody,

    As a member of the Punahou Coaching staff I take a little offense in what has been said about the school I have learned to love. Me being a graduate of Nanakuli High appreciate what a school like Punahou has been trying to do over the time I have been at the school. Yes there will be people that have never been a part of the school that will talk big time crap about something they no nothing about but from experience I will tell you that all we try to do is give kids an opportunity to get an education and a school experience that is invaluable. ARE WE SO WRONG FOR DOING SO?


  123. kama krab:

    Financial aid, Scholarships, Recruiting, whatever you want to call. For those kids that come from no so great areas or for kids that want just a little bit better, they call it an opportunity. An opportunity to strive for that much more. An opportunity to get a chance to go to Stanford, Notre Dame, Oregan, Yale, Harvard, and UCLA just to name a few. I have coached a lot of great kids over my 4 years at Punahou who might not have had a chance to be where they are at today if they did not catch the eye of one of our coaches. If they did not catch the eye of the coaches they would not have the opportunity they now have. All I'm trying to say is that it goes way more deeper than just passing out money to those that we feel are great athletes. We are trying to give as much people the opportunity to feel, live, and experience what it means to be a part of something just a little bit bigger. Again I ask ARE WE SO WRONG FOR DOING SO?


  124. kama krab:

    And a final word on this is,

    This recruiting/financial aid/scholarship thing goes farther then just the football program but encompasses all sports. Again it is all about giving these kids an opportunity. Just so happens that they are also very good athletes along with it.


  125. kama krab:

    Back to regularly scheduled programming

    Oh and sorry for the rant, just could not sit back and read some of this junk.


  126. markazulu:

    @123 Kama krab

    Wonderfully put some of these kids who are given an opportunity to succeed in life is amazing to see how kids like manti te'o and id even say timmy chang take the ncaa by storm is great.


  127. markazulu:

    what do my fellow warrior fans think are the possibility of our offense finding that spark against nevada? Nevada played Florida State tough in the 1st half and that lop sided score really didnt show how much florida state struggled against nevada in the 1st half.


  128. cocobean:

    kama,

    If I were a parent of a talented athlete and a school like Punahou offered financial aid I'd accept in a flash. Why? Because history has shown that those institutions have kept up their end of the deal. To prepare the child for college.

    Still wondering if financial aid is the same for everyone or on a scale based on the ability to pay?


  129. Old Diver:

    128

    It's about the ability to play. I don't believe there is anything wrong with recruiting or using financial aid to lure athletes. The ILH should abolish the rules which outlaw it so the coaches are not forced to lie.


  130. Ponojr:

    #123 Kama Krab

    I truly believe in providing children with an education as long as the financial aide standards are the same across the board. That a child regardless of athletic ability or not has an opportunity for a free education. Someone mentioned that housing was also provided to relieve the burden of commuting to and from school. Is that also offered to families not blessed with athletic children? I would hope so. What if an athlete didn't catch the eye of a coach but wanted so bad to attend the school. Could they approach the staff to ask for financial aide?


  131. al:

    spot on mr. kama krab!


  132. 3-Prong:

    Kapakahi: Played on the same line with Nolan.


  133. 3-Prong:

    Hey ST, thank you for the SPAM FREE environs!


  134. NotNasti:

    Two years ago, as I was sitting in Hemmeter Fieldhouse watching my daughter's volleyball match, when a football team that was watching the match all stood up and filed out of the gymnasium. I asked my cousin, had a kid enrolled in Punahou if Kahuku was playing against Punahou. She said, "that's not Kahuku, that's the Punahou football team." It was shocking, because it seemed as if the entire team was polynesian. And Kama, good for you. You held back until you could no longer. If the motives are virtuous, then providing an underrepresented segment of society an opportunity for a college preparatory education, is noble. It still hasn't prevented Kahuku from dominating the h.s. football of late.


  135. boolakanaka:

    And my final point on the subject--was not to make an indictment on Punahou or any one school. Rather, it was to point out that when we make these types of determinations, that is to say, to offer aide and assistance to a local "student-athlete", it is made with the knowledge that it is a finite choice, and for every dream that is fulfilled, and another goes unmet. It is a stark and real reality, for every educational institution that admission also requires the overt act of denying someone else.

    Hence my point is not that schools do it, but are there delineated metrics that define the flexibility of required admission criteria? For example, say school A had a policy that one needs a minimum of 85 to gain admission, but you got this great kid and athlete who has 83, well, not to much of problem, to give him/her a bump. However, what if that score is now 69, and you have 3 dozen applicants who all have 85 or higher, now the problem becomes much more complex and furthermore, has a potential negative outcome on 36 other kids.....

    These are not straight-forward binary problems, and they test any institution. Let me say again, I don't fault or speak in a pejorative tone about Punahou or any school in this situation. Moreover, I see the great opportunity and lofty mission that it seeks to fulfill. Being a local guy, who went all the way from k-12, at public school, public housing, hawaiian homestead, raised by a female single parent, but also along the way played college football, and now at one of most elite institutions in the nation--I think I speak of a situation in which fairness is hard to measure, and we all want to be a force for good for our community and state. That said, not everyone has exceptional athletic ability, and so we hopefully proceed forward that we are all striving to achieve malama pono, and do the best we can, for the greatest amount of people.


  136. PolyMom:

    Mahalo Kama krab. Nuff said.

    If you want more I go on financial aide, you can go to Punhou School and hit the Financial Aide link. It is need based. Must submit even Federal income tax forms.


  137. PolyMom:

    BTW not nasty...since Jim Scott became President of Punahou it was his mission to accept more Polynesians. Like I said I supplied to Kamehameha 6 times. You know back then and who knows now...you had to know somebody at Kamehameha. I had high test scores, great interview, I was an orphan since my Dad was deceased. But NEVER admitted. Jim Scott has done a fantastic job as President.

    I've tried to donate every year even if it was 25 bucks as a young woman to pay it forward. :)


  138. boolakanaka:

    And I need to correct myself, for the integrity of Miss Arakaki my 4th grade, homeroom teacher, props up Alvah Scott!!! But aide refers to a person or an assistant, and aid is a noun that connotes assistance. I incorrectly used the former in my previous post.