Chow: "I'm not going to quit ever"

November 4th, 2013
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Salt Lake City, Utah — Insisting his public comments were misinterpreted, University of Hawaii football coach Norm Chow said he is "fully capable" of doing his job and has no intention of quitting.

"I'm not going to quit ever," said Chow, whose Rainbow Warriors are 0-8 in the second season of his  five-year contract. "I preached not quitting to these kids. You expect me to quit? Are you crazy?"

Chow sparked controversy when he told a group of reporters "I'm too old for this" following a 47-10 loss to Utah State this past Saturday in Logan, Utah.

Chow said it was a "tongue-in-cheek" remark directed at Deseret News columnist Brad Rock.

"That's what it was," said Chow, who is 67. "I've said that to Brad Rock for years, even when I was here (as offensive coordinator at Utah and Brigham Young)."

Rock told the Honolulu Star-Advertiser he did not take Chow's comment seriously.

"He used to say that when he was at Utah (in 2011)," Rock said. "I took it completely as tongue-in-cheek. I don't know if it came across that way in my column. But he has done that before. That's why I'm so certain it was tongue-in-cheek. He said that even when he was an assistant coach. He was shaking his head when he was saying it."

UH quarterback Sean Schroeder said: "I see him every day. He's fully energetic and qualified to be a head coach as anybody else in the country. He's always in the facility working hard. He's the hardest worker, as you have to be."

In a teleconference with CBS Sports, which televised the UH-Utah State game, Chow was quoted as saying he was "not cut out" to be head coach. The sportscasters repeated that comment during the telecast.

Chow said that comment was in reference to the non-football responsibilities he acquired as head coach.

"I didn't realize the administrative duties outside of football that was required – setting up the travel, setting up the hotels, (ordering) the fertilizer (for the practice field)," Chow said. "I'm fully capable of it all. I just didn't realize what it took to do the other administrative stuff, especially at a university like that where we're short on numbers."

Chow added: "The football part is a breeze. I have a good coaching staff. We work hard. We're in there at 4:30 in the morning. We have no problem in that."

UH athletic director Ben Jay told the Star-Advertiser: "I've never gotten a sense Norm has given up. He's not going to do that with his kids. … He doesn't want his kids to quit and he's not going to quit."

Schroeder said: "From my personal experience, I don't see him quitting on us at all. That's absurd."

Jay said Chow "is my coach," and "I don't plan on changing, unless he changes my mind."

Jay said he and Chow will meet after the season to evaluate the program and its goals.

247 Responses to “Chow: "I'm not going to quit ever"”

  1. truegreen:

    Interesting


  2. truegreen:

    First first in a while. Always a reader though. :)


  3. PurpleMaple:

    Glad to read this. Clears the air.


  4. Jonj:

    I hope everyone on this board knows that those post were LAVA last night. And my reaction to him on game day where becuz he told me to "shut my goddamn whorish mouth. All I do is trash talk the team and coach." And then gave me a local boy the ultimate disrespect by calling me Haole!

    So now lava has taken it upon himself to impersonate me. Which is stupid but funny!


  5. Beewhyyou:

    Top five - go chow


  6. Luki:

    Go Monday! Go Bows! Beat Navy!


  7. ai-eee-soos:

    GO WARRIORS !!!


  8. Old Diver:

    "The football part is a breeze." I think many would disagree with this statement from Norm Chow.


  9. jeezy33:

    The only thing I ever hear out of Norm Chow is "we are going to work hard, we never quit." But who really cares? Doesn't every football team in the country work hard?? Norm Chow is getting paid to win football games and put fans in the seats to generate revenue for the University.

    He is failing at every aspect of being a HC.

    When has anyone in their life paid someone to try hard?? I sure haven't.


  10. ai-eee-soos:

    Blog Host: Please delete post

    136: Ratbird:
    November 4th, 2013 at 4:04 am

    I think that it's offensive, and doesn't belong on this blog.

    Thank you.


  11. Scotty:

    Now I'm more depressed than ever! Does any of you really think under Norm Chow UH will be a name brand again? We might be now, but for all the wrong reasons. I was really hoping NC would retire after this season so UH can start over sooner than later. Imagine in a few years it will be the 10 year anniversary of that magical season. Has it been that long?


  12. jeezy33:

    11. Hawaii is digging itself into a deeper hole the longer we keep Chow. I understand the financial aspects put Hawaii in a lose/lose situation but you can't lose the support of your fan base.... Which has been loss already for the most part...

    It's nice to have 100's of loyal fans on this blog but that isn't enough to keep the program going in the right direction...


  13. manoa#1:

    Chow is full of shet.......Retire Resign or Fire his azz.!!


  14. erich:

    Very sad to see the slow death of the program.

    I grew up watching UH football and became a fan because there were so many good years and it was fun to watch.

    No one feels that way anymore with Chow at the helm. He is quickly proving he is not head coaching material.

    The fact that he has to 'clarify' his remarks about whether or not he wants to quit -- and it's a weak clarification at that, because I think he is giving up -- shows how out of his depth he is.

    How low have we gotten that our head coach needs to "clarify" to the media that he's not giving up and quitting?

    I hope Ben Jay is playing his cards close to the vest, because if he doesn't can Chow, then he will be overseeing the death of the program.

    I feel very sad for the players that they have to play for this coach.


  15. Jonj:

    11 Scotty Ik UH will never be the same with NC as the HC. I was happy with UH breaking top 25 every 2-4 yrs with a special crew. But I don't see that coming now. Funny how the few bright spots on our team are all Mack guys. I know it's wrong but some parts of me wants our team to lose bad so norm haters will rise and force the admin to fire chow. But at the same time I think of the kids playing and how badly we need a win. It's a catch 22


  16. jeezy33:

    Chow added: "The football part is a breeze. I have a good coaching staff. We work hard. We're in there at 4:30 in the morning. We have no problem in that."

    This makes me want to puke..... Does Norm Chow know that we are talking about football and not futbol?

    Fren Von Appen thinks Norm Chow is delusional..


  17. Kapahulu:

    Top 20


  18. Creative721:

    My question is why does any head coach have to order his own fertilizer or book flights and hotels? Normally you would think that an administrative assistant would be doing this stuff. If anything, he would just need to sign off on it. Not actually have to order it. Sounds kinda rediculous if you ask me. Why isn't the athletic department taking care of this stuff? LOL!!!


  19. jeezy33:

    Chow said that comment was in reference to the non-football responsibilities he acquired as head coach.
    "I didn't realize the administrative duties outside of football that was required – setting up the travel, setting up the hotels, (ordering) the fertilizer (for the practice field)," Chow said. "I'm fully capable of it all. I just didn't realize what it took to do the other administrative stuff, especially at a university like that where we're short on numbers."

    Yeah I am sure the fans are buying that..... You have been coaching for almost 40 years and had no idea that there were administrative duties outside of football??? Get real...

    This is a all time low day as a University of Hawaii football fan....


  20. cocobean:

    jonj. Glad it wasn't you. Thought the belligerent behaviour was out of character for you. I've offered counter points to your opinions before and you've always responded with decorum.

    I better preface that my next post is an example of my dry humor......

    The good news - Chow said he's not going to quit ever. The bad news - ......................


  21. 3-Prong:

    Hey everybody, just remember these decisions are "above your pay grade".


  22. jeezy33:

    18. Are you serious!!!!!????????????????? Hawaii is 0-8, the laughing stock of the MWC, program falling apart and you care about why the HC has to book flights???

    If someone paid you 550K, would you really care that you had to put a hour of your day aside to book a flight?? I bet you anything Chow has some assistant do it anyway...


  23. NotNasti:

    JonJ, I thought those posts last night in your name was out of character for you. Good to know that it was an imposter and not you.


  24. letsgowarriors:

    tsai while ure at it, why don't u get chow's clarification for throwing his seniors under the bus and saying we have no leadership!

    DUH! we have no leadership bc look who our "leader" is? norm chow is a frickin joke.


  25. Boulderdude:

    Chow is currently the coach. We need to win a game. Period. Everything else is just a distraction. Complaining is a weapon for the weak. Discontent, blaming, complaining, self-pity cannot serve as a foundation for a good future for the football team, no matter how much effort you make.

    Winners make a habit of manufacturing their own positive expectations in advance of the game. what positive expectations can you manufacture this week to help the team get out of this losing rut?

    In times of great stress or adversity, it's always best to keep busy, to plow your anger and your energy into something positive.


  26. letsgowarriors:

    if bengay needs someone that works hard and wont quit, tell him he can fire chow and ill coach the team for 40k a year. i will for sure work hard and not quit on the team. he'll only have to pay me 40k and the results cant get any worse.


  27. sdbowfan:

    Pretty please quit Norm. Pretty please with sugar on top.

    "Football part is a breeze" I guess being 0-8 is easier than I thought.......


  28. JustAsking:

    So now we know that Chow was jus' kidding...... What a funny guy he is! That is exactly the kind of humor the fans and players want to hear 2/3 of the way through a miserable season. And I suppose his statement about a lack of senior leadership was another funny from the stand up comic?


  29. letsgowarriors:

    0-8, but i still have a blog of fans that kiss my ass and im making over 700k/yr w an iron clad contract. damn right the football part is a breeze.


  30. Papololoco:

    The good news - Chow said he's not going to quit ever. The bad news - ......................

    the players and the fans will have to endure another year of this train wreck, the program is doomed for sure.


  31. jeezy33:

    I wonder if Norm will pay me to try hard to recruit him players that have talent... I promise I'll try hard and make sure 1 QB FINALLY gets signed...

    BTW, my car needs to get detailed.... Willing to pay someone to try hard to detail it... If you fail, its okay... As long as you tried hard and gave it your 100%.


  32. whitey:

    good morning tsaikos. wow, ouch, ouch, itai.


  33. NotNasti:

    No excuse for being 0 - 8, (I would have figured 2 - 3 wins at this point), but our team is still really young. USU had a senior laden O-line. I think in a couple years, with a mature team, we will do better record-wise, with or without our current coaching staff. Marcus Kemp, Keith Kirkwood, Diocemy St. Juste, Anthony Pierce, Trayvon Henderson and Kennedy Tulimasealii are true freshmen. Countless others are redshirting, including Aofaga Wily (medical RS). Jerroll Garcia-Williams, Marrell Jackson, Nequan Phillips, etc. are only sophomores. I think the future is bright, the present, on the other hand . . . well, it makes the future seem even brighter.


  34. erich:

    BTW, Chow is full of it.

    Do people really think Chow is also working as a travel secretary?

    Or does he think we're stupid.

    Why is there a director of football administration if Chow is handling travel duties? Or ordering fertilizer?

    http://hawaiiathletics.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1250&path=football

    If Chow is doing it himself, it's his own fault because he has people to delegate stuff like that to.

    "Brad Jones begins his second season as the Rainbow Warriors’ director of football administration. In that role, Jones handles all day-to-day operations of the program."


  35. letsgowarriors:

    what if i told u, mormon country hold grudges for life and they were able to kill their former rival long after the rivalry was dead. ESPN films presents, BYU Cougar For Life: I not only killed the Warriors, but the Rainbows too.


  36. letsgowarriors:

    *but I brought the Rainbow back just to kill it, too!


  37. Bulla:

    Some classic comments from our Head Coach..... we all saw the movie "Remember The Titans", and the all time favorite line is '...attitude reflects leadership...' Yep, I went there :)


  38. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    ST -- good to see your blog entry today. I was just reading the hard copy sports section over late breakfast -- had to -- the photo and Reardon's column took up 2/3 of the front page. But I wondered what your view (and Ferd's) was on this, since my credibility rating is in that order... :evil:

    "I'm getting too old for this..." is usually said by the hero when he gets up from the ground and limps off to save the world. This weeks drama features Norm Chow and a cast of 64. :|


  39. Kevin:

    Other coaches would "kill" to have a secretary... yet they manage to do that work (book flights, set up hotel accomodations, coordinate travel schedule, plus the recruiting, planning, etc.

    Just stating facts.


  40. jeezy33:

    Fred Von Appen is 4 games away from freedom in Hawaii... No longer will his name be associated as the headliner to all jokes related to horrible coaching...

    Steve Bartman's day may never come in Chicago..... But Fred Von Appens name is soon to be forgotten and will be a free man in Hawaii..


  41. Scotty:

    UH needs another direction already. Financially the program has to start keeping up with...gulp, the rest of the MWC teams, unfortunately I think under Chow the hole will be to deep to crawl out of. I cringe whenever I hear give him time, he's only in his second year. So what? Next year we might win 2-3 games? YAY! Now we're improving! Sigh...man I miss those days when I would get so mad going 6-7.


  42. jeezy33:

    34. Young has been the same excuse for the past seasons..... Its time to realize that young isn't the problem...

    We were "young" 2 years ago and won 6 games.
    We were "younger" last year and won 3.

    Did you forget about our older guys in Matagiese, Woodard, Daley, Hardy Tuliau, Stutz, SS, Laurel??? Our defense has gotten worse all season.... Doesn't that matter???

    When the guys you named get older, our QB and O line gets younger because we will have to sign high school kids who will be freshmen... So in 2 years, when your guys get older, Tuileta is a soph or redshirt FR, our O line are FR and SO..... so the youth card is never ending..


  43. Leahi2:

    I can understand that Chow as HC would have to approve the order for fertilizers and delegate the planning for travel arrangements to others. He doesn't spread fertilizers does he? Or mow and water the lawn? He doesn't carry the baggages does he? I doubt if he goes thru the details like this was a minor league club. He's got to be organized and that's where leadership comes in. Is he a leader? Does he spend all his time micromanaging? MaYBE SOME OF THE TIME but If he's too old for that than yes he' s got to go. I would think that every coach would have to look into some mundane details but that comes with the territory. Is this the reason for our dismal won loss record? MAYBE HE'D LIKE TO COACH SOMEWHERE ELSE. With this losing record We're losing money at the gate. We're losing pay per view income. We're losing money from UofH Tee shirts, caps and other banner items that go on sale. These are the outside events. How much longer can we be losers. Uof H may be forced to drop football if this continues. Auwe Chow, Auwe!


  44. jeezy33:

    44. I think Waialua High School would be a perfect fit... Miano is doing great things at Kaiser. Ron Lee turned Kalani around. It's time Waialua gets that program turned around....


  45. Lono:

    Rebuilding takes years and not one or two seasons. With all of the Freshman playing in a year or two they will rebound this team.
    I'll stick with Coach Norm and the rest of his coaching staff.


  46. jeezy33:

    46. Rebuilding does take 3 years..... But Hawaii is Regressing, not rebuilding.... U watching the same games as the rest of us?


  47. Scotty:

    **barf**

    The sample size is there. So you think in year 4 of Chow's era UH will be back?


  48. jeezy33:

    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck... If you need 3 years to see that, then I'm sorry.


  49. jeezy33:

    48..... Maybe if Bob Nash got 1 more year to "REBUILD" Hawaii would have been to the NCAA tournament by now....


  50. Scotty:

    Chow fun and roast duck for lunch!


  51. jeezy33:

    51. Sounds great actually... Throw some blackbean sauce on that chow fun....


  52. Bigislandkurt:

    These years will hurt more than the FVO years.

    BIK


  53. Former UH Athlete:

    Why on earth is the UH Football coach responsible for ordering fertilizer? Is the coaching staff required to mow the grass and paint the lines also?


  54. SteveM:

    BTW, I've been seeing Amazon Local ads for $5.00 Hawaii Bowl tickets this year. $5 for North end zone brown/red/yellow, $10 for makai sideline yellow, and $10 for South EZ orange.

    Just curious who the projected teams might be?


  55. jeezy33:

    54. Its called an excuse FUHA... Dont believe everything you read... You claim to be an athlete, so you know the ins and outs of college sports and responsibilities that go on..... Coach Chow can say anything he wants to the media.... But half of it is BS and excuses..


  56. Bigislandkurt:

    "The football part is a breeze." -- D. Lusional Coach.

    "We are a great team," -- D. Lusional Player.

    "who'd want to come and coach Hawaii under these conditions?" - D. Lusional Fan.

    Time is quickly running out for this band of brothers. The unofficial search for our new coach may have already begun. There are many up-and-comers who would LOVE to be the UH head coach.

    BIK


  57. Whats up:

    Jeezy you need to relax, next season we are getting QB Larry Tuileta and then returning from his mission in 2015 QB Aaron Zwahlen. These are very talented young QB's that are soon to arrive at UH.


  58. Creative721:

    22. My point with that statement is booking flights, hotels, and ordering fertilizer are things that no head coach should have to do himself. What head coach in the nation has to order his own fertilizer for the football practice field? That's rediculous!!! We don't hire a head coach so that he can spend time ordering fertilizer or booking hotels and flights. Besides, if he mentioned it, I would assume that there is no assistant doing this for him or that there's no one in the athletic department in general doing this right now. It still doesn't explain why he keeps losing, but if he's having to worry about stuff like that, I don't blame him for being frustrated with being the head coach.


  59. jeezy33:

    58. I agree Larry is talented.. But he will also be a freshman... So year 3 is supposed to be results year... But with a freshman, you are rebuilding.... so back to square 1. And who even said Larry will sign with Hawaii??? Lot of guys decommit and sign elsewhere...


  60. jeezy33:

    59. My point is to stop being naive and believing everything the Coach says in the newspaper!!
    He can say anything he wants and you will believe it.... Look at the obvious for once...

    Ryan Braun went to the media and denied using steroids.... Did you believe him then?
    Richie Incognito denies bullying allogations... I guess we need to believe him...
    Colt Brennan denied using cocaine when it was found in his car... I know for sure you believe him because he has Hawaii ties..

    Norm Chow is 0-8 and losing the support of his fans and locker room... What do you expect him to say??? Of course he is going to find every reason possible to look for an excuse..


  61. MattyBoy:

    The best Christmas present this year would be for Chow to either resign or be fired! That would be such an awesome gift!


  62. MattyBoy:

    Please Chow step down.


  63. letsgowarriors:

    not even mack complained about administrative duties. chow is more senile than i originally thought.


  64. letsgowarriors:

    my job requires me to write my own email responses, wipe my own ass and clean my own office. this is not what i signed up for when i got my college degree.


  65. Minion:

    I would love to see stay through his full contract. Just for the fact of watching Jeezy and the Chow haters get their panties bunched up everyday. Talk about losers who can't do a damn thing about but vent on this blog! Hahahahaaaa!! I love the torture!!

    Chow for head coach forever!!! Hahahahahaaa!!!

    Wimps!!


  66. jeezy33:

    64. If booking a flight and ordering fertilizer is do F'ING hard to do, cough up $5,000 of your $550K salary and hire someone to do that for you.... For 4 months out of the year to order some damn fertilizer and to book a hotel, I am sure someone would love to do that for the team as a part time job......

    Cry me a F'ing river about a over paid grandpa that has a little admin work...


  67. jeezy33:

    66. How ironic of you to be calling me a loser when I have just as much wins as Norm Chow this year...


  68. Creative721:

    For those of you that are complaining that Chow is another Fred Von Appen, you have to remember that there are two differences between the two coaches. During Von Appen's time, UH had problems scoring every single game and their defense was dismal. At least with coach Chow, the defense has been decent (with the exception of a few games) and they have scored a lot more points than Von Appen's time. I say give him one more year, and if there's no improvement, then let Chow go.


  69. jeezy33:

    69.

    Hawaiis offense ranks 94th in yards per game. Ranks 101 in points per game at 21.9 points

    Hawaii defense ranks 107 in allowing 36.8 points per game. Ranks 111 in yards per game...

    So once again, your opinion versus the facts is completely off...


  70. RedZone:

    Hang in there Coach Chow.

    Hang in there team.

    Never give up. Never quit.

    Go Rainbow Warriors!!!!!!!!


  71. cocobean:

    Another keep him or can him kind of day. Ok. Let me gather my thoughts over lunch. Will try to come with new excuses for giving him more timethat hasn't been posted before.


  72. Kevin:

    67.jeezy33:

    November 4th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    64. If booking a flight and ordering fertilizer is do F'ING hard to do, cough up $5,000 of your $550K salary and hire someone to do that for you.... For 4 months out of the year to order some damn fertilizer and to book a hotel, I am sure someone would love to do that for the team as a part time job......

    Cry me a F'ing river about a over paid grandpa that has a little admin work...

    When it comes down to it, I agree with this point.

    As a customer of the product and as an individual concerned and invested in other areas of UH athletics and the overall financial "health", I agree.


  73. Erich:

    Chow actually has less wins than Von appen through the same period of time. So he is technically worse.


  74. Creative721:

    @jeezy33: If he's trying to find anything to use as an excuse, then why didn't he use the "We didn't get much sleep the night before" excuse? That's a legit excuse, but he didn't use it as the reason why they lost. Also, if you think booking the flights and hotels plus transportation for 65 players plus coaches and other staff is easy, I can tell you it's not just "a little admin work." With UH's bureaucracy, it is a LOT of paperwork and all of them need approvals from the higher ups because of the amount of money involved.


  75. Kevin:

    72.cocobean:

    November 4th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    Another keep him or can him kind of day. Ok. Let me gather my thoughts over lunch. Will try to come with new excuses for giving him more timethat hasn't been posted before.

    Sighs... this makes the second coach in a row people have had to do that.


  76. jeezy33:

    75. Damn so that's why we haven't won yet.... Got it... Poor Chow... Give him a raise!


  77. letsgowarriors:

    even a community league HC knows that the duties of being a HC are a bunch of administrative things in addition to actually coaching, which is a breeze. maybe Chow should hire a team mom to handle the after game snacks and team outfits.


  78. Creative721:

    @Jeezy33: So what were Von Appen's numbers then? The year that they went 0-12, there was a 4 game stretch that they only scored 22 points. UH has never been that bad (even under Chow's current season). I believe offensively that Von Appen's rankings were actually worse than Chow's. Do some research before you make your claims buddy! LOL!!!


  79. jeezy33:

    79. Why do I give a flying F about Von Appens numbers?? He got CANNED!!!!

    I don't care whether you score 22 points in 4 games or 44...... There are no moral victories in sports....

    I apologize that I can't help you see the big picture here....


  80. erich:

    79 -- By your logic, you would take a 0-12 team that scores 30 points a game, versus a 12-0 team that scores 10 points a game.


  81. NotNasti:

    Jeezy, we've got some senior standouts, but not enough of them, and those that we do have do not standout enough, if you know what I mean. Saui, he's a workhorse, the anchor of our d-line. But we need 3 - 4 veteran hole-pluggers like him, not just one. Brendan Dailey & Art Laurel are solid linebackers, but dominant like Pisa? I was sitting in the stands watching his 19 tackles versus Alabama. I remember saying to myself, "he's turning pro" during that game. How many of the guys you named are NFL prospects? I would agree with you that our defense has gotten worse as the season has gone on. They're tired and beaten (emotionally), lots of missed tackles and blown assignments. I feel bad for the seniors. When I say we are young, I mean that the talent level, playmakers, studs, etc. are young. Vasquez Haynes is a sophomore. John Wa'a, Keelan Ewaliko, redshirting. It's kind of sad when the consensus "mvp" of the team is Scott Harding, a sure handed receiver/punt returner without breakaway speed that has a gimmick style punt. I love Scott Harding and what he does for our team, but how does he compare to Derek Carr, or David Fales?


  82. My take:

    Sure coaching is a breeze. Must be the winning is the hard part.


  83. madeinhawaii:

    People weren't happy with Coach Mack because they compared him to Coach Jones. Now people aren't happy with Coach Chow because they compare him to Coach Mack and, more recently, ... Coach Von Appen. Conversely, most fans were happy with Coach Jones because they compared him to Coach Von Appen.

    Yet, many of the fans that were happy with JJ when he was here don't want him back because they feel betrayed.


  84. madeinhawaii:

    We are fans and fans are fickle.


  85. letsgowarriors:

    where is the development though? everything is on paper, i don't see anything happening on the field. i see regressing though. of the young kids, who has shown any type of development this season?

    u keep bringing up Haynes, i really haven't seen anything out of him. Kirkwood has been the most impressive young WR so far.

    Ben Clarke who i am a big fan of, really hasn't shown much improvement. i don't blame him though, that's on the coaches.


  86. kaimiloa:

    I tend to be someone who supports the boss and that is what I've done regarding UH Football. I used to get upset about posts about things not being like they used to and expecting instant success. This losing streak has made me apathetic. That is strange for me. I usually get so emotional watching UH that nobody in my family wants to be around me. Now, I just sit there and stare. I can't be angry, I just feel empty.

    That said, It wouldn't bother me if we had a new coach. People want to complain about schemes and lack of creativity but I don't see that. I have never had to gameplan for football (and neither have 95% of the rest of the blog readers) but it seems like more of an execution problem. Missed assignments, poor decisions, bad technique. Some of this is on the players and alot on the coaches. If I have a complaint about Coach Chow its that his players don't seem prepared, technically and mentally. More than anything, this shows me how incredibly difficult it is to be a college football coach. These are men who LIVE football and bust their elemu everyday. They have experience, intelligence, and an incredible work ethic but still can fail.

    Everyone is pissed or burnt out on this situation. Criticize all you want but try to have a little respect for people. I find it very disrespectful to insult somebody's family name. Over the years, on this blog, I've seen this done to coaches, ADs, and players. As much as you might think UH Football is your life, its not. Unless you're a degenerate gambler, your family doesn't depend on its success or failure. There are real people for whom the program is their life.


  87. jeezy33:

    82. He doesn't compare to them.. And we don't have those kind of guys.... So by saying wait till our young guys are older, we still wont have that big time QB.... And we have some good young guys, but not enough like you say...

    I don't see recruiting panning out well this year after our season. Guys are looking at Hawaii is a last option type place. 4 years ago, Hawaii was poaching players like David Graves from Nevada and turning down players Like Peni Vea to UNLV and Brian Suite to Utah St. Huge mistake by former coaching staff but we had recruiting power then. We don't anymore and still aren't identifying enough talent..


  88. Creative721:

    For those of you that were wondering, here are the opponents and scores for the games played duirng Von Appen's 0-12 season:

    9/3/1998 Arizona L 6-27

    9/19/1998 @ Utah L 21-30

    9/26/1998 Arkansas State L 0-20

    10/3/1998 Southern Methodist L 0-28

    10/9/1998 @ San Diego State L 13-35

    10/17/1998 Brigham Young L 9-31

    10/24/1998 New Mexico L 20-30

    10/31/1998 @ Texas-El Paso L 13-30

    11/7/1998 San Jose State L 17-45

    11/14/1998 @ Fresno State L 12-51

    11/21/1998 Northwestern L 21-47

    11/28/1998 Michigan L 17-48

    My point being that this current squad scored a lot more points than Von Appen's teams with the exception of a few games. The most that Von Appen's team scored during any game that year was 21 points, so to say that Chow's team is worse than Von Appen's team is totally false from an offensive standpoint.


  89. Marleysdad:

    Wow, I don't look at the blog since thursday & come back today.

    Nothing changes....jeezy33 still bitching like a little girl.


  90. UHfan808:

    Hey, I didn't see this post this morning :p

    Good afternoon, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers! :)


  91. letsgowarriors:

    u could even argue frosh phenoms Nequan Phillips and Marrell Jackson (complete BS call on the targeting BTW) are not as good as they were last season.

    so assuming the coaches don't get their act together, how can we expect Trayvon Henderson and Anthony Pierce to improve? they've shown flashes of being good players, but the coaching staff has not shown the ability to coach players up.


  92. letsgowarriors:

    id add JGW to that list as well. kid is oozing w potential. no clue why the coaches have not unleashed him.


  93. My take:

    BJ says 'he's my coach'. Then he follows it up with 'unless he changes his mind'.?!?!?!?!


  94. jeezy33:

    I will have season tickets regardless of if Chow is coaching next year or not. I will attend the home games even if we have 0 wins..

    I dont blame people who choose not to attend games and dump money into a broken program. Tickets aren't cheap, PPV isn't cheap.

    I will speak the truth though and vent out when I read BS coming out of a over paid coaches mouth and making constant excuses...


  95. Creative721:

    @Jeezy: If you're such a boo bird of a fan, why do you even care about UH Football then? If you don't understand that in the big picture that it takes time to build a team to run this offense, then no one can obviously help you. Rome wasn't built in a day dude and UH doesn't have the resources that Rome did back in the day. LOL!


  96. jeezy33:

    89. Do we really need to compare which win less team is better to argue about keeping a coach???


  97. jeezy33:

    96. Oh crap... I guess you need to explain to me that I need to appreciate everything about a crappy football team to care about them......


  98. jeezy33:

    I forgot to purchase "proper fan" booklet


  99. jeezy33:

    90. bitch slap that face too


  100. wasabi:

    Then Jay needs to go too....


  101. NotNasti:

    Too bad there's no such thing like a "relief" head coach. Bring him in for a couple of innings, uhhh, games, and let Chow take a breather. Hah! Bring Chow back when everything's back to normal. What's happening now is not normal is it? Sorry, if you can't find humor in life, what's the point?


  102. jeezy33:

    102. Chow said that we have relief QBs in football.. So why not??


  103. NotNasti:

    Jeezy, at least you're not cheering for UH to lose every game. You're just frustrated, like everyone else, and voicing your opinion, which I enjoy reading.


  104. jeezy33:

    104. Exactly.... People here are so faithful to Chow that he can do NO WRONG...

    Reminds me of stupid parents who never discipline their kids.... " My kid bullied the other boy??" No way, not my kid.."

    Our coach isn't good?? noooo.. give him time.... He needs 3 years minimum, regardless on how many steps back we are taking... He has so much admin work, recruiting, hotel booking going on, he needs time.. If it wasn't for the LAX shooting, our team would have made the game a little closer...


  105. primo123:

    I think Chow would do good in a "Ensure" commercial....maybe he can be the "spokesman" for that product.........oh and dont forget AARP too.....


  106. letsgowarriors:

    it is pretty funny that the only thing i look forward to is scott harding's rugby punts. and if we get the other team in a 3rd and long, i feel like we're doomed LMAO


  107. primo123:

    Jeezy....Chow's going to get three years.........trust me...........minimum three......

    you can bitch and moan all you like........one more year bruddha...one more year.....


  108. Derek:

    Said a coach, "we're going to get it done. If we don't get it done, we're done!" Well, the way I see it this coaching staff is not getting it done. The disappointing thing is what Ben Jay said. He said Norm is my guy and I support him "read as he'll be back next year."

    If Ben Jay was the athletic director at Ohio State and his head coach was 3-9 in the first year and 0-8 right now, do you think he would be supporting his Head Coach? I doubt it because if he doesn't make a change he himself would get fired. You might say the expectations are different. I say it isn't, only the scale is different.

    It's a joke. My friends and I are watching the game and we are laughing. When Woodard made the interception down to the 5 yard line, I told my friend I bet you we are not going to score and would probably throw an interception. On the very next play, 99 yard interception, a 14 point swing. Right there, the rout is on, game over.

    We are the bad news bears. Whoever hired Chow, where are you now? Proven coordinator, unproven Head Coach. When he said "I'm too old for this" I believe it. He no dummy. Does he think he wants some sympathy? Sorry, not from me. This is a business. In any business, if you don't produce you're not for long.

    Like McMackin, Chow is a nice man. Unfortunately, that's not the question. You have to win games so generate more money for the athletic dept. We all know that.


  109. sdbowfan:

    Chow is trying to pull a fast one in telling us that he is doing the travel booking and ordering fertilizer. He is insulting our intelligence and thinks he is smarter than us. Just because you have been on the mainland for most of your life does not make you smarter than us local people. Respect is a two way street. JJ knew how to deal with local people before he left. You were born here and you act like we not akamai. Auwe.


  110. jeezy33:

    Only thing I look forward to is Tsai's Matters on TV.


  111. primo123:

    #105

    my kids are spoiled rotten.

    i teach'm better to be the bully, than be bullied.......


  112. jeezy33:

    108. I know that... I accept it... I said I will have season tickets no matter what.... But when Chow goes to the media and makes outrageous statements, I am going to call him out on it.....Sorry...


  113. NotNasti:

    Letsgo: I thought I was the only one praying for third and short over third and long, LOL.


  114. primo123:

    #105

    sorry if my kids took your kid's lunch money......they said your kids said they didnt need it.....


  115. jeezy33:

    Did everyone already forget the quote, "We are going to chase championships"?


  116. primo123:

    #113

    yes!.....we jump all over his arse, joking or not....just plain stoopid comments he makes.

    I watch the coach's show just to see him squirm and see what kind of excuses he gives.

    funny stuff!


  117. jeezy33:

    115.... Dont have kids... and if that ever happened, I'd slap you..


  118. sdbowfan:

    #116

    I remembered it, but I always had the "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude....


  119. LizKauai:

    Re HC responsibilities:
    Reminds me of the difference between a line cook and an executive chef.
    But not understanding the job description before taking on the promotion... ???

    It's where the buck stops.


  120. primo123:

    get rid of the DC......terrible showing.....


  121. primo123:

    #118

    LOL.....jus kiddin....


  122. jeezy33:

    119. Well now we know what a salesman sounds like after he fails to deliver...


  123. jeezy33:

    122. Don't worry, didn't take it seriously... But I'd expect any parent to do that..


  124. egan.kawamoto:

    I was in the band and so I know that Mr. Lum had to get fertilizer (no money to buy, had to look for donations. Good thing for him he knew Mr. Tam at GEM Garden & Hardware). He also spent time watering, spreading fertilizer, as well as striping the field (Granted he had help. Unpaid student help mostly).
    What about Les Murakami? Didn't he and the team do a lot of work on their field?
    Now Chow has come from large programs where money was no problem. Becoming a Head Coach at his age and into this set of circumstances (no money) is something that he should be "too old for" but don't a lot of people say this without really meaning it?
    Taking a "throwaway" line and making it into a big deal is a waste of space. Unless this is the opening salvo in certain Star Advertiser sports writers to get another football coach fired.


  125. Tazer:

    I wrote this after the game this Saturday @ #312

    This is getting to be like a T.V reruns for this team. As for the Chow comment, maybe ST can get a answer if he did say it or not. And what he really meant by that. And I feel the players are the ones getting drag down by this coaching staff. Even if they say they like Chow. And Chow get real coaches to run your offense for you. Don't get students (that are learning how to coach) to do the job for you. And call the right blocking asseiments for offense line. And also Chow you need to be flexing your play calling. And get help for you to run this football team. As for you people who are calling to fire the coach. Well it be up to Ben Jay, Apple and the board of regents to call for the axe to fall on Chow. As for the players go out and have fun and take care of your business on the field. But also Please play nice here. Even if you don't like what other people saying.

    So just think about it Chow needs help to save his soul


  126. letsgowarriors:

    "im too old for this" was in addition to telling the CBS crew that he may not be cut out to be a HC.


  127. innocent observer:

    chow is a proud person; if he feels that he cannot do this, then he will do the right thing - to negotiate a departure settlement. at his age, he should not endure all this controversy from the fans. he does not need the money, he took the job because he felt that he could be a successful head coach and wanted to prove it. unfortunately, it was at the wrong school, very difficult to work with talentless players and win against the "big boys". he is starting to realize this, that no matter how much recruiting is done, he will not be able to attract the type of recruits that will make this a winning program. JJ realized this and jumped ship, he was smart. chow now, needs to be smart.


  128. Wes'side Warrior:

    Howzit, Gang!

    Mahalo, ST, for the clarifications.

    With our present financial situation, I don't think there is any way we can afford a Coach Swap. But I would still like for Coach to at least try calling one game from the booth, and see how it goes. He'd also be able to see what our defense is looking at, and adjustments made/not made. To me, it can only help the team. The coaches on the field must know that any major decisions will come from him up in the booth. Too simple?

    As far as impersonators trying to stir the pot here... would it be too difficult for everyone to register a blog name, which then can't be used by any other pos(t)er?

    Hope you all have a great day!

    Heal up, Warriorz! Keep your heads in the game. Wrap up, minimize mistakes, play assignment ball, and especially... stop those third down conversions.


  129. Stephen Tsai:

    No. 111
    That's my favorite moment, too. lol.


  130. LC:

    Ever,really ?


  131. Stephen Tsai:

    I think it's fair to judge Chow on the on-field performance, the record, calls, etc. That's one of the perks of being a paying customer.
    I think, though, it would be inaccurate to say he was quitting on the team or not putting in the work. And that had been the implication.


  132. Stephen Tsai:

    All I know is, damn, Brazilian food is great.
    Oh. My. Goodness.
    This was my first time eating chicken heart, or my new favorite — chicken-wrapped bacon.
    My cardiologist has been alerted.


  133. Frapper:

    Chow's pride will only hurt this football program if he doesn't retire at the end of the season. If he gives a damn about UH, the fans in this state, and the future of the program, he will retire. I don't expect him to quit or give up now. But if he doesn't leave at the end of the season, then he is selfish and full of the bad kind of pride that can't accept that he can't do the job and it's time to step aside.


  134. Stephen Tsai:

    ESPN's Toni Collins is my new favorite sportscaster.


  135. Chee Hoo:

    Team hasn't quit on Coach Chow! Still playing with passion. Victory will come this year, have faith in the coach if not the team!


  136. jmor56:

    I'm tired of watching Lakalaka up the middle for minimal gain. It wont get any better with Iosefa running the ball. Its been pretty clear DSJ is the best pure running back that's played so far this year why not use him more? Bad coaching


  137. cocobean:

    #111. Ditto.

    Do you think Robert is influencing the blog host in terms of appearance? It might be the studio lighting or my TV but I swear it looked like Stephen is beginning to grow facial hair under his lower jaw like Robert's.


  138. Oingo Boingo:

    Hey, Ratbird, "my sources," we need names and proof! Otherwise, go back to your mynah bird cage!


  139. Ratbird:

    Hey Oingo, I'm a june Jones fan. I was just as shocked as anyone reading this. Tell me it ain't so.


  140. My take:

    Chasing Championships? I guess chasing a speedboat with a rowboat is still considered chasing. If K5 wins the next tele bid, they want do do away w pay per view. Darn, was planning to watch them at the bars next year.


  141. Former UH Athlete:

    138... With the offensive line talent, definitely best to use DSJ and try to get him to the perimeter. The OLine isn't getting any push to use Lakalaka/Iosefa's best attributes. Lakalaka/Iosefa can get you 2-3 yards after contact, but they getting hit at or behind the line on almost every play.

    DSJ has been more discipline with sticking to the run play the past couple games and his last game should earn him more playing time. He's made a good impact on the return game. He's doing his part.

    The only worry with DSJ getting the primary load is his size. 180lbs isn't going to take 20 carries/hits on a consistent basis. I think somewhere between 10-15 touches (not counting returns) is about right for him right now.

    The one caveat is that UH has had to abandon the run game in most games this year, so the Pass:Run ratio is probably way off from where it should be. I would think DSJ has more carries planned but the way the games have played out has taken touches away.


  142. Former UH Athlete:

    sorry... meant 137...


  143. Former UH Athlete:

    ST... nice call on Toni Collins.

    I raise you the blonde "talent" on FS1


  144. Bowwar:

    It's interesting to see the same folks who wanted to get rid of Mack so badly are the same ones trying to rid of Chow...As I've always stated, they should have given Mack his last year after a 6-7 season. I know Mack's salary was a big consideration for many, but they could have renegotiated that rather than getting rid of him. Believe me, I don't think Mack and his staff would have had only 3 wins up till now especially since they would have had Graves running the offense.

    For the Chow advocates, take your bitter pills and swallow it...We're where we are because of you.

    I'll still cheer for the Warriors and be at the games...I may have get my paper bag out of the closet soon too.


  145. Stephen Tsai:

    Former UH ...:
    It's the accent. I've always wanted Salma Hayak to report on sports.


  146. boolakanaka:

    The current situation in the NFL of Richie Incognito provides a graphic narrative of how bullying is one not just shared in our playgrounds and classrooms. If true, and the text and phone message clips I have heard and read are at once heinous and entirely ignorant, underscore that this is not a benign rite of passage for both youths and adults.

    Bullying is an overt action of intimidation and has its roots in insecurity and the inability to exercise more sophisticated ways to either communicate or accept the unfamiliar. All of us that have been raised in Hawai'i know that their is a wide difference between playful interplay of all our different cultures, and the conscription to marginalize either through words or physical threat. The case at present, has a grown man saying things like the n-word, killing and slapping another grown man in the face---and it is absolutely asinine and horrific behavior.

    My own mother had a way to confront a bully when growing I was growing-up, although I would not advise most parents to take the same route. Anyway in 4th grade, I was getting picked by this young blahah in Halawa named Piko. So, I can home and I think I had a bruise or something, and Mom's asked about it--and I recited what had happened. Well, my mom gets all jacked up, and takes my several blocks to the kids playground. At this point, your thinking boola's mom saves him and gives the other kid an ear pull and an lecture...well, I thought the same thing as well--but it was not to be....

    But, that was not her plan. She yells who is "Piko???" Piko answers "wat??" Well, what followed almost made me faint, she tells Piko "you and boola goin fight--fair fight-right now!! Not a question, but rather a declarative sentence (I'll check with ST if that is the correct grammar?).

    I'm thinking, what the hell you crazy old lady??! Anyway, a big circle of kids gather-- he initially got the best of me, but since my Mom made it a "fight to the finish" his girth gave way to his lack of conditioning (I said he was a blalah) and I ended up on top of him, and my mom ended it when his nose started to bleed. I was crying on the way home, and asked why did she do it--why did she make me fight the bull of the 4th grade class?? She replied with sage wisdom and understanding (although she only went to HS). Because, I'm a wahine single parent, and you don't have a dad to stand up for you, so all the boys need to know you won't back down from any bullying--anytime--anywhere.

    Wise woman that Ms. Boola....


  147. cocobean:

    New excuse for more time for Chow.

    USU won the game because they were still enjoying the fruits from the trees Gary Andersen planted there. Andersen had four recruiting classes before he left. He had his first winning record in year 3 after 2 losing seasons. His 4th year was the payoff 11-2.

    Chow needs at least another year before he/we can enjoy the fruits of his labor. Most of the fruit on the trees Chow planted are still green or at best half ripe.


  148. Papololoco:

    #137... IMHO I don't think Chow knows anything else, I think his play calling is very limited. Weekend and week out we see the same ole "hey diddle diddle" play, it still hasn't worked but he keeps running it, why? I've said this before early in the season and I still stick by it, Chow's Offense is way too predictable, this is why he will never win.


  149. jeezy33:

    145. No one is saying they want Mack back so I don't know how your statement is relevant. Mack had major flaws. He didn't know where he was half the time, didn't know his own players names, and just wasn't cut out to be a HC. Mack wasn't a good recruiter and didn't try hard enough to get out to all the local schools to find talent. Mack did have good assistant coaches though. Coaches that had experience handling units. Mack was let go more due to the fact that they didn't want to renew him, which was smart, and in order to move in the right direction, you can't have a coach work out his final year unless you plan on renewing him or it's going to cripple recruiting. The mistake was Mack's contract.... We have a bunch of ADs trying to fix issues left by former ADs. Might be time to just bring Hugh Yoshida out of retirement...

    I'm hoping the next time we hire a coach, we at least have a competent selection committee that can find someone under 60 for once... Dick Tomey was a great college coach and even he wasn't cut out to fix San Jose St. at his age...


  150. cocobean:

    #150. Jeezy. Dick Tomey is still held in high regard at SJSU. In their eyes he came on board when the ship was in dire jeopardy of sinking. They knew he wouldn't be around for the long haul. At the time of his hire they needed someone to keep the program afloat which is what he did - mission accomplished.


  151. iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    I am hoping that next season our offensive woes will be shored up with the hiring of a full time OC and the GAs can go back to being GAs. I think a big part of our problems on O is the lack of experience in the booth upstairs and on the field. Chow's experience, no matter how great, is not enough to handle all of the issues we have.

    I do suggest that Ben Jay impose an executive order that the OC cannot be fired/relieved of duties unless he commits a felony or is deemed an alien from outer space.


  152. Papololoco:

    #148...why do people continue to put this on the recruits. We have the talent, it's the coaching PERIOD! When Mack took over in 08 he pretty much started from scratch, everybody was gone. He and his staff still manage to make it to a Bowl game that year with very little talent playing pretty much the same teams we're playing now. This years team has way more talent then that 08 team. You're only as good as your HC, as they say, garbage in garbage out.


  153. kimo browner:

    Ben Jay has redefined the meaning of "above mediocrity". His favorite buzz word for his personal standard of performance. How can he ask for donations and not fire a coach that simply cannot win? He retained Trap after a disastrous season and now reasons he will evaluate the football program after this season is completed? The perfect storm is brewing for UH to exit D1A. The leadership is incompetent from the bottom up. It has the feel of an entitlement environment without accountability. Truly a sad moment in UH sports.


  154. jeezy33:

    151. Wasn't meant to take a shot a Coach Tomey. More along the lines of wanting to find a coach in his prime versus a coach about to retire..


  155. Ipu Man:

    Wonder what Ivan Jasper is planning?


  156. Minion:

    This blog cracks me up. A bunch of nobodies arguing over stupid ideas that really don't matter. Hilarious entertainment! Some of you actually believe you're saying something intelligent enough that Chow or Ben would read and take seriously.

    Hahahahahahahahaaha!!!!

    Thats why Hawaii sucks. They've got idiots for fans.

    Keep posting. It shows how much it burns inside of you. How embarrassed you are to be associated with a losing team. How powerless you feel and inept you are to do anything about!

    None of you have the balls to tell Chow in his face what you say on this blog. None of you are man enough. Thats what I love best. Bunch a wimpy crybabies with no balls!

    What else dumbass ideas do you so called fans have. I need a laugh. Hahahahahahaha!!!


  157. Creative721:

    @jeezy33: Bring Hugh Yoshida out of retirement? Really??!!! I don't think so. He's the guy that hired Von Appen in the first place. How is hiring Yoshida going to improve UH Athletics? LOL!!!


  158. Papololoco:

    #154...I think BJ can't ruffles any feathers at this point so I'll give him a pass, for now. Maybe he'll try to get Chow to take a modest settlement (hopefully only half of his remaining salary) and retire but if he pisses him off then Chow will probably ask for everything he's owed. You and I both know that UH can't afford to buy Chow out. I think it's smart on BJ's part not to make any waves right now and just tow the party line. But if Chow comes back next year then all bets are off.


  159. Creative721:

    After looking at Minion's post (157), can we get a ban hammer on his account? Some of his language is rather distasteful. Swearing and everything. At least some of us censor ourselves. You have no class Minion.


  160. jeezy33:

    158. Yeah, judge a mans career over 1 hire..... Our athletic program was never in this type of mess in that era... Obviously I don't seriously mean bring Hugh back. My point is our past 2 ADs have made some major blunders that Hugh would never have done... Now Jay is stuck trying to correct a mess that might not be correctable with the debt we are in.

    1st day in the blogs and already you are a complete joke. The only argument you have to anything falls back on Von Appen..... If that's the case, lets keep every coach that is better then him... You set your standards so low. Be sad to see your taste in women..


  161. jeezy33:

    157. Might be the biggest troll yet... Def should get banned...


  162. Papololoco:

    #157.. If we had the proper platform I believe you would see more fan outrage but this is not the place. You have people in the Hawaii sports media who gotta see that things are really bad and do have to platform to say so but chooses not to. Personally, I would tell Chow in a second that he sucks.


  163. Creative721:

    @jeezy33: I agree with your reasoning, but even saying to bring Hugh Yoshida back when Ben Jay hasn't really had the chance to right the ship is kinda lame. BTW, this isn't my first day in the blogs. I just haven't written in a while. As if you should talk about who's a joke. A lot of your comments are a joke. Von Appen was the worst coach at UH and will remain so even after Chow leaves. Mark my words. Now that you've gone and made things personal, actually my standards are pretty high unlike yours since you had to settle for your hand and dress it up during Halloween just to change it up a bit. LOL!!!


  164. madeinhawaii:

    jeezy33:
    The debt is new. It started this year. The old debt was forgiven. So it's all on Ben Jay and Chow.


  165. Tazer:

    157. I think it should be the other way around. You should come and meet us and tell this to our faces and in person. Then we see who has no Balls like You


  166. airsumo:

    With all the problems our football team is having maybe its time to start watching our softball wahine. I think they'll be competitive this year. Thanks Pomai for making available videos of scrimmages.


  167. Minion:

    You crap all over UH and Chow and now you're saints dictating who can post? Hahahahaaa!! Oxymorons!

    Henry Ford was once asked how did he come up with the idea of making a car. Did he ask his customers? Henry said, "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."

    Bring back June Jones... Dick Tomey... McMackin... Yoshida... You only know what you know. Thats why you're all sitting at home in your underwear chirping nonsense. Thank God none of you are in charge. You'd still be begging Larry Price to stay!! Hahahahahaaa!!!

    This is fun! Any more brilliant ignorant ideas? Hahahahahahaa!!!


  168. Old School Dave:

    Stephen: Are the Warriors practicing at the Univ of Utah's training facilities? How about that Pac-12 $$$?


  169. Marleysdad:

    You know what they say about playmakers, they make big plays in big games. We have no playmakers. That is not coaching, that is internal fortitude. You can not coach that. The player must want that himself.

    Where is our Keyshawn? Just give me the damn ball..........


  170. Rite80:

    45

    Guess you are unaware of the circumstances concerning Chow's departure from Waialua High School.


  171. cocobean:

    boola. Did you hear Piko's version of what went down. According to him he and Mama boola were in cahoots. She took side bets on you as a 2-1 underdog and promised Piko ice cream for a week to throw the fight.

    Nah. nah kidding a side. I do get a feeling from all your posts that you'll stand up to a bully not only to defend yourself but others as well.


  172. primo123:

    #168

    If you think you so smart.....what's your answer? Or thoughts on the subject, other than to come in and bash with your "big boy" keyboard?


  173. primo123:

    I kinda liked VonAppen......he had some athletes on his teams....jus go ask JJ.....


  174. cocobean:

    #157. At last someone who appreciates my sense of humor. BTW. your post are pretty funny too. from one comediuan to another.


  175. cocobean:

    comedian.


  176. Rite80:

    170

    Playmakers in today's offenses are a product of the scheme you run. With the packaged plays the quarterback is making decisions on the field and is the playmaker. Chow's WCO calls for a game managing QB, someone who will run the play as called with no deviation. A QB like David Graves created plays and moved the chains. He did not fit Chow's idea of a QB.


  177. boolakanaka:

    172....Nothing could be farther from the truth from the shibai that Piko is telling!!! The real story was that Mom's promised him a mix large Icee (coca-cola and strawberry) and a large bag of kakimochi for an entire month.

    I busted them one day, as I suspected something, cause bully was gaining weight in 4th grade. I never got over Mom's betrayal, but appreciated keeping my lunch and snack money--so we are even.


  178. primo123:

    David Graves was a good one.


  179. wasabi:

    Marleysdad....still trying to push the talentless players excuse. That isn't working anymore. The coaching is b-a-d! Get used to it...until Chow is Pau!


  180. Down with...:

    0-8 sure doesn't feel great, but so what...support the team no matter what, you still live Hawaii and in the end, it's just a game, my main worry is the Senior student athletes graduate and the younger ones are going to class and getting more experience for next year!

    We should get a professional team so most of you can take your anger/frustrations out on professionals who make money versus student athletes who are trying their best to represent the State of Hawaii (and go to school too)...so, sorry if this season is not going your way so far....Peace and Aloha! smokeabowl


  181. Down with...:

    so many angry people on here....you guys should try and take up some peaceful activities like yoga, taichi, meditation, go to the beach, hug someone (or maybe you need a hug), give blood, donate, pet a dog, twerk one out or something......much love smokeabowl


  182. Marleysdad:

    #80 wasabi, Where did I say we didn't have talent? We need playmakers. Playmakers stand up. Playmakers lead. Where are our leaders? Who get's mad every time they give up 3rd & long? Who gets in their teammates face & rallies the troops? Has noting to do with talent. You can name anybody captain, but that doesn't make them lead. None of that is coachable. You either have it or you don't.

    I was neither for nor against Chow. He is who we got. Am I happy with our results? Hell no, but I'll leave the chow is pau drum beating to the old grumpy japanese men.


  183. Marleysdad:

    And like #181/182 said, smokeabowl. You'll feel better. \m/


  184. 3Point1Four:

    #154 Why would BJ fire Trap? We led the western region in attendance last year despite a losing season. In baseball gate receipts is what counts. There is no big bucks from TV contracts, there is no post-season NCAA payout as there is for football and basketball. BJ would be a fool to fire Trap with one year remaining on his contract.


  185. Bigislandkurt:

    What part of the last two years make any reasonable person believe that we will encounter this great turnaround come year 3? Even if we were to win 3-4 games next year....still enough? C'mon you guys. We have to set the bar a bit higher than that. There is nothing (other than graduation rates) that prove that Chow has ran a successful program. And for that, he gets 1/2 credit because UH has always been good at graduating athletes. Time for a Change. And that is my stance.

    BIK


  186. Manoa Mist:

    #157 Minion. Son, if you have such big balls which are bigger than the rest of us why don't you print your name, phone number, email and home address so we can all tell you to your face what we think of you?


  187. Bigislandkurt:

    The worst possible scenario is playing out for UH football. We are trotting on dangerous ground when a large part of the fan base begins to NOT CARE. The students are already a foregone conclusion -- aside from supporting their friends on the team, most do not care either. It's almost like UH football is invisible. Call out the "fair weather" fans all you want, but the non-support of UH is very real. How many PPV packages do you envision for next year? How many of you will renew the season ticket? Just how much UH Rainbow Warrior shirts, jerseys and other merch will be sold? Just how busy will those dining and drinking establishments be during UH football? So now I ask you.......

    One more year?

    BIK


  188. Fan:

    So those who don't favor coach Chow certainly have the ammo to fire away and rightly so I guess. Me, I haven't given up on him yet and still hold onto the possibility that he rights the ship. I like the man, respect the career he has had and hope his final gig can be a success. Things look grim now it is true but I wish the man well. I'm glad he came home to give it his best. And I do think he gives it his best. If his best is not enough then so be it. But there is no need to assassinate the man's character. Failure comes to all of us life but the one's who keep trying are the ones of character. It's easy right now for those who have been right about his lack of success and some seem to gloat over their rightness. If he turns it around I hope those same people can be just a generous in their praise as they are currently in their criticism. Character is for fans as well as coaches.


  189. jeezy33:

    189. I also respect Bobby Bowden's career but even he was past his prime and FSU had to turn to Jimbo Fisher in order to get to where they are now.


  190. wasabi:

    189. It's too late for him to be successful here. He made too many mistakes, alienated too many people.


  191. Old Diver:

    186

    Looking at next years schedule 3 to 4 wins seems generous. As Ben Jay said last year "3 and 9 doesn't cut it."


  192. Old Diver:

    188

    I agree, many fans have moved past disgust and are in the apathetic stage. Jay hasn't realized this yet.


  193. lava:

    So now Chow wants me to boycott forever? OK


  194. Rodney:

    Bulla,Bulla shame on you!!!!
    Imua warriors!!!!!


  195. wow:

    Post 1


  196. wow:

    post2


  197. hightide:

    Chow has to get rid of his grad assistant coaches before the team can make any progress.


  198. wow:

    post 3, trying the Jeezy way ..... keep posting the same stuff ....


  199. wow:

    independent thinker's sock puppets are back ....


  200. Wes'side Warrior:

    Crazies out in force!


  201. oneseason:

    After last years 3-9 record, and with the team 0-8, the AD needed to make a statement. It sounds like he is placing his professional reputation behind the idea that Coach Chow just needs more time to succeed.

    4 more games to go in season 2, then open the 2014 season with 3 home games:
    UW Huskies on 8/30/2014
    OSU Beavers on 9/6/2014
    Northern Iowa on 9/13/2014


  202. jeezy33:

    199. you seem to like losing over and over so figure u like reading the same stuff over and over :)


  203. jeezy33:

    Although I address different issues... but u read want to read..... How all Chow backers see things..


  204. Whats up:

    I know this team is young because it got younger when Chow took over and most of the holdover older talent left. And I know it's rebuilding time, however, next year better be a break out year and bowl team or Chow is Pau before year 4 in his contract. The only team Hawaii has a chance to beat is Army and that is a still a stretch! The coaches need to fix the miscues, mis-tackles, mistakes, mis-everything that has been going on this season.


  205. Rodney:

    What's the best way to crack the
    Navy option attack!I think d ends
    need to have eyes on blocks and
    backs.Whats best formation .
    3-3-5 or (5-3)


  206. Tofuzuke:

    Life isn't easy, shit happens, I going stand tall and proud w/da UH Rainbow Warrior Braddahs! Look at how many negative posts, unreal... they say sports brings out character, and reflection of life and its adversities ... shit happens, how we (fans, community) going to deal w/it, grumble, talk shit. I shame fo read all this blogs already. Ok, like coach said, no excuses, work harder. I'm proud of the boys and the coaches! Coach, we still get your back! Ohana, aloha, no mo this.... is it a reflection of our ever changing culture, Hawaii peeps its ok to be competitive but don't forget the aloha... and we all ohana, neva mind attack good people. Had to say this cause I hate to read all the negatives...

    Enjoyed Kaimiloa's comments....
    kaimiloa:
    November 4th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    I tend to be someone who supports the boss and that is what I've done regarding UH Football. I used to get upset about posts about things not being like they used to and expecting instant success. This losing streak has made me apathetic. That is strange for me. I usually get so emotional watching UH that nobody in my family wants to be around me. Now, I just sit there and stare. I can't be angry, I just feel empty.

    That said, It wouldn't bother me if we had a new coach. People want to complain about schemes and lack of creativity but I don't see that. I have never had to gameplan for football (and neither have 95% of the rest of the blog readers) but it seems like more of an execution problem. Missed assignments, poor decisions, bad technique. Some of this is on the players and alot on the coaches. If I have a complaint about Coach Chow its that his players don't seem prepared, technically and mentally. More than anything, this shows me how incredibly difficult it is to be a college football coach. These are men who LIVE football and bust their elemu everyday. They have experience, intelligence, and an incredible work ethic but still can fail.

    Everyone is pissed or burnt out on this situation. Criticize all you want but try to have a little respect for people. I find it very disrespectful to insult somebody's family name. Over the years, on this blog, I've seen this done to coaches, ADs, and players. As much as you might think UH Football is your life, its not. Unless you're a degenerate gambler, your family doesn't depend on its success or failure. There are real people for whom the program is their life.


  207. Wes'side Warrior:

    Right on, Tofuzuke!


  208. 10 Island:

    From run and shoot to conventional pro set grinding type offense, (5-10 yrs minimum) to master this offense. Most are running out of patience. Not me. Go Rainbow Warriors!!!


  209. wasabi:

    207. That's all well and good but there is not much further down to go than below mediocre bottom 10 #2 on coaches hotseat in college football. Blind support of Chow is detrimental to the program. Some think it is supporting the program. I think it's helping drive the nail into the coffin.


  210. BKEKOA(9THISLE):

    I know da season doesn't look good, but look back at UNLV football years, they was in da same boat. A lot of people thought da HC was goin to get fired. But look at them this year how everything came together. Chow has a year left jus wait & see if things can get turned around by then.


  211. wasabi:

    211- no


  212. My take:

    Love is blind.


  213. Derek:

    I don't mind being patient up to a point. The problem is we are not going in the right direction and I don't see improvement. Let's be real, last year we beat an FCS team in Lamar. We beat a very bad South Alabama team who was in their first year at the FBS level. We beat UNLV at home w/ a wounded warrior promotion and new unis and an UNLV team that was not playing well. So really, we should have ended up 2-10 last year at the FBS level and only one of them was so called impressive 48-10 against the Rebels. Wanna be more patient another year or two. Sorry, not me. It's not going to get any easier with the schedules in the future. Mountain West teams must be so happy. They get travel subsidy for coming to Hawaii to play, plus they get to beat up on a conference foe who is a cupcake. I for one don't like that.


  214. oneseason:

    First 2 years records for the last 3 UH head coaching changes.

    1999 & 2000:
    ...14 wins - 11 losses
    ....9 wins - 6 losses (in conference)

    2008 & 2009:
    ...13 wins - 14 losses
    ....8 wins - 8 losses (in conference)

    2012 & 2013: with 4 more games to play
    3 wins - 17 losses
    1 wins - 13 losses (in conference)


  215. Jonj:

    211 everyone thought the same wit the Idaho coach forget his name. In his 4th year they go bowl game finish 8-5 everyone thought it was turn around. Then he has a crapp 5th n 6th season and the can him. And he took the same approach as chow with trying to play pro-set smash mouth football.


  216. Jonj:

    I could see giving him another year if the play calling wasn't atrocious. Btw we weren't al tat bad running he ball last year. What happened this year?? I think will Gregory had almost 700yds n iosefa 500yds. This year I think we be lucky to hit 8-900 yds. Looks to me like the play calling got worse and the blocking schemes. Same OL as last year.


  217. eMpTy:

    Reading the blog is more depressing than watching the games. Aside from the last game, at least there was some semblance of hope. Because there was some hope, people started to reset their expectations higher so now they are more disappointed than ever and are showing it. Go Rainbow Warriors.....


  218. jonj the clown:

    lol jon james, the person who spent most of the night during the blog post where stephen tsai posted the pizza calling out lava and talking about how hard he is because he's black and mexican. what a guy! whoever was posting after that in yesterday's blog post was probably not you, but you still spent most of the time acting like an internet tough guy.

    what a clown.


  219. jeezy33:

    I'm a broken record. Watch me go on repeat.


  220. jeezy33:

    220...

    Someone needs to get a life.... Obviously not me


  221. jeezy33:

    Funny how this impostor keeps changing his name over and over trying make anyone who doesn't approve of Chow look bad..


  222. jeezy33:

    repeat. repeat. anybody who thinks i'm just saying the same thing over and over again is just a blind Chow Follower. repeat. everything I have to say is SO valuable that i have to constantly repeat it over and over. repeat.

    remix.


  223. 3-Prong:

    Hoping they dug up the game films from a few years back when we shut down the option and won the Navy game.


  224. 3-Prong:

    Stop the dive, force qb to pitch by hitting him HARD, then let the dbs finish the job. REPEAT! That's the only way to beat Navy.


  225. jeezy33:

    ST, please block/ban these impostors.....


  226. jeezy33:

    yes. because nobody should get in my way of trying to sound REALLY smart and Very Important. My epeen is on the line here, ST! for those of you not familiar with what "epeen" is, here's the definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=e-peen

    Now excuse me while I repeat myself.


  227. Konoman1:

    Maybe we can get some pictures of the facilities at Utah!!!


  228. Moocher:

    i don't think anyone is a blind supporter of chow. very stupid statement since supporters and non-supporters all know what's going on and can see it.

    instead what i see are blind non-supporters. the ones who either cannot see or lost vision of the big picture.
    we all knew years and 1 and 2, hey have hope, but expect the worse, and well, yeah, we're getting the worse.

    fans, non-fans, how many times do we hear, "this is the coach's first full year with all his recruits" and yes we know that a coach can't fully be judged until year 3 at best, but certainly year 4 and 5. so why cry?

    to me, there are no blind chow supporters, we all know the deal. rather, this is more a case of blind chow non-supporters.

    bottom line-he won't be fired, he won't retire, he doesn't need to. he's here, deal with it and cry us al river jeezy33 and others, oh sorry did i single someone out...

    yeah i'm not happy either. i'm glad chow's statements were clarified. i also thought because of those statements maybe it was time for him to go. but hey, we can all judge in years 3-5.

    until then yes, cry us a river. complain like a singaporean all you want it helps to know who are fans and who are just spectators.

    there are no blind chow supporters, only blind non-supporters who can't see or lost the vision because they too busy being cry babies and speak jibberish nonsense because they are still sucking their thumbs and shaking their rattlers at the tv on saturdays.

    but hey, thanks for the entertainment :)


  229. Moocher:

    it's amazing, if someone like me can support the team thousands of miles away...how can you not support the team just a few miles and minutes away.

    it's stupid because every saturday there is a truce at kickoff. we all have hope, we are all together at the moment of kickoff, 100% of us.

    keep it at kickoff gang, that's when we are all 100% together. the ball will be teed up, and that means we all have hope :)


  230. Warrior:

    Spot on Moocher.


  231. wow:

    My name is jeezy, I like to spam the blog. 231 post today and over 50 of them are from me ......


  232. kev-1:

    Good to see that there are fans refusing to give Chow a pass on his comments. Yes, as ST pointed out earlier, it is fair to judge him on the record. But it is also fair to judge him on what comes out of his mouth. The "tongue and cheek" excuse doesn't smooth it over for me as easy at it does for some. I don't think people question how hard he works. It is the results of that hard work that people have a problem with.

    That aside, there are major issues that remain. One being adjustments, and Chow is proving AGAIN to be stubborn in that area. SS will get yet another start. It is last year all over again. I don't necessarily think he is the answer, but I would rather see what TG can do over a couple of games. He obviously has accuracy issues. But SS has proven he is not a winning QB. Save the toughness excuses already.

    And the excitement of Tuileta is greatly premature. I am NOT taking a shot at the kid, I am hoping he is legit. I just see him as more of an athlete than a qb. Throwing motion and zip on the ball is VERY suspect. But we shall see.


  233. Minion:

    I am still waiting for any of you clowns to step up and say anything positive about Chow. Every single one of you can't handle losing. I have yet to hear anyone say how they plan to support the team financially. Everyone is sitting around waiting for a miracle. No one wants to make a miracle happen.

    Anyone wants to volunteer to help Chow with his challenges? Yup! I thought so. The old Tsaikos would jump at the opportunity. These new clowns blogging here are selfish ignorant idiots who think only of themselves and not willing to commit to anything. All I hear is I give up. UH sucks. Change the offense. Change the defense. Fire the coach. Not once did I ever hear anyone on this current blog say what can I do to help this program. Not one! Oh, the old time Tsaikos never waited for change. They stepped up and did what they could.

    Manoa Mist- calling me out? Ha! Call yourself out! Do something positive instead of sitting on your sorry asss complaining and chirping. Step up and be a man!

    BKEKOA(9THISLE)- finally, someone humble and with some sense and common decency. I feel bad that he had to break it down for you wimps and crybabies who can't stand losing.

    I have no problems with the players, the coaches and the program. I appreciate all their efforts along with those behind the scenes who make the program run. These are the people who are just as frustrated as you yet they gotta listen to the garbage and crap you spew out everyday about their work.

    I hope all this losing eats you up inside. Make you angry and pissed off that you continue to blog on this site the dumbest posts ever. Better yet, I hope you feel offended and pissed that I called you weak, pathetic and sorry excuse for a UH fan. Because if you respond that means I'm right and you will continue to be loser for the rest of your life. Ignore me and you suffer in silence. Hahahahahaa!!!

    I love watching dumb people try rationalize with their stupidity.

    Entertain me, losers!


  234. egan.kawamoto:

    @Jeezy 23: Just a reminder Hugh Yoshida fired Bob Wagner and hired Fred Von Appen.


  235. leahi2:

    Earlier someone posted the idea of a better future. The message was that Punahou's Larry Tuileta and Aaron Zahren were QBs to turn the program around. Well you know Chow's boy is TG, the sensation from Ohio State. He red shirted last year and was supposed to be our ALL AMERICAN qb. While red shirting, TG practiced didn't he? Spring training and Fall training too. Still he hasn't SHOWN MUCH. Injury or no injury! Lets face it; if you haven't got it, you just don't have it. There's a lot of talk about experience, experience, and experience. We are 8 games into the season but where is the overall experience showing? I look at the coaching staff and question their leadership and experience as well. Nothing is showing. We can lose a game, sure, but the question is "how did we lose it? and how did we play the game"? Thanks to our Coaching staff we are a bunch of born losers. The laughing stock of the MW! Go home Chow, we don't need any more 2nd string coaches around here.


  236. Sasa Muli:

    Aiyah!! 200 and more posts from just one fafa? Sweet coconut milk dat uce no mo job odda den looking kn da tweeter following recruits and making beeeeggg body.

    Beeeeggg body but small bot.. ah! You know!

    Cheeee huuuu!!!


  237. NorthShoreFan:

    I wish some of the admin experts, travel experts etc. on this blog would volunteer to help the team out and volunteer their talents. might make a difference instead of just bitching on the site.
    Step up, make a difference, help the team, be the turning point instead of the road block.


  238. kev-1:

    Why the hell would anyone volunteer to help someone who gets paid what he gets paid to do his job? You gotta be kidding me.

    Now, volunteering for the program? That's a different story, and more warranted.

    It is also very funny to read someone attack posters that he considers "losers" yet is just as ignorant with name calling and insults.


  239. kev-1:

    If TG was "Chow's boy," don't you think he'd be playing? BTW . . . we have seen way more of what SS CAN'T do than what TG CAN do due to the simple fact that he hasn't played that much. Maybe he has nothing? We really can't make that fair assessment at this point.


  240. cocobean:

    #234. Man you're a funny guy. Don Rickles would be proud of you.


  241. cocobean:

    #240. Chow's QBs remind me of the old saying about women .......can't win with them can't win without them.


  242. Lopaka43:

    lots of posters but fewer and fewer Tsaikos

    Sorry to see the spirit flickering and the bickering and name calling burning bright

    We are all disappointed and saddened to the depths our program has slipped to. But some of the posters want to go beyond that to character assassination, name calling, calling out anybody who disagrees with them.

    What is the value in that?

    This blog has always been about more than just football. At it's core is a common thread of aloha for the team, the coaches, the University, and Hawaii. In adversity, we stick together. Even when we argued, we knew the limits because we had sat beside each other at the tailgates, sung together at the karaoke bars, celebrated at the Christmas party. And we have met the parents of the players, talked with the coaches, and know that they are people not faceless cartoon characters without feelings.

    Aloha, Tsaikos. Keep the spirit. This blog always rights itself. Don't feed the trolls. Esme woosh!


  243. NorthShoreFan:

    Lopaka43...ditto the message...Big Mahalos fo dat...

    To the Warriors...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLyWd6tnEPM

    My message to each and everyone of you guys


  244. ai-eee-soos:

    ... Tsaikos ... TAKE BACK THIS BLOG !!!


  245. SteveM:

    RE: #243
    Lopaka43 -- yup, you called this one right. Really makes a difference when you've met in person...Tsai-kos (who come out and meet) and players. ST is with the players and coaches daily, and we know them vicariously through him....


  246. SteveM:

    Here's a Tsai-ko karaoke video from 2008 (by LizKauai). How many Tsai-kos can you identify (by blog name, if not real one)? Most of them have posted today or yesterday.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFNCHWvYT9Q


  247. NorthShoreFan:

    Those were the dazes..Mahalo fo dat SteveM