Sneak preview

November 19th, 2013
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The Rainbow Warriors conducted a scrimmage yesterday for redshirts and developing (and under-used) players.

Bubba Poueu-Luna and Samson Anguay had touchdown catches. Josh Gist had a 100-yard interception return for a touchdown. Keelan Ewaliko made an acrobatic one-handed interception. On the return, Ewaliko displayed the shiftiness that made him a quarterback star at Baldwin High.

Here's the script:

• 1st-and-10 from 40 — Ikaika Woolsey 8 pass to Josh Long

• 2nd-and-2 from 32 — Jason Muraoka 4 run

• 1st-and-10 from 28 — Woolsey incomplete to  Cecil Doe

• 2nd-and-10 from 28 — Muraoka 2 run

• 3rd-and-8 from 26 — Woolsey 17 pass to Long

• 1st-and-goal from 9 — Jason Muraoka 0 run

• 2nd-and-goal from 9 — Woolsey sacked for minus-3

• 3rd-and-goal from 12 — Woolsey 6 pass to Josh Gonda

• 4th-and-goal from 6 — Josh Gist 100-yard interception return of Woolsey pass

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• 1st-and-10 from 40 — Jeremy Higgins incomplete

• 2nd-and-10 from 40 — Higgins 6 pass to Max Broman

• 3rd-and-4 from 34 — Muraoka 5 run

• 1st-and-10 from 29 — Muraoka 19 run

• 1st-and-goal from 10 — Muraoka 1 run

• 2nd-and-goal from 9 — Higgins incomplete

• 3rd-and-goal from 9 — Higgins 9 pass to Bubba Poueu-Luna for touchdown

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• 1st-and-10 from 40 — Woolsey 11 pass to Quinton Pedroza

• 1st-and-10 from 29 — Woolsey incomplete to Ammon Barker

• 2nd-and-10 from 29 — Gonda 12 run

• 1st-and-10 from 17 — Woolsey incomplete to Duke Bukoski

• 2nd-and-10 from 17 — Woolsey incomplete to Poueu-Luna

• 3rd-and-10 from 17 — Woolsey 10 pass to Bukoski

• 1st-and-goal from 7 — Gonda 2 run

• 2nd-and-goal from 5 — Gonda 4 run

• 3rd-and-goal from 1 — Gonda minus-1 run

• 4th-and-goal from 2 — Woolsey 2 pass to Samson Anguay for touchdown

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• 1st-and-10 from 40 — Woolsey incomplete

• 2nd-and-10 from 40 — Muraoka 3 run

• 3rd-and-7 from 37 — Keelan Ewaliko intercepts Woolsey pass

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• 1st-and-10 from 40 — Woolsey incomplete to Long

• 2nd-and-10 from 40 — Muraoka 10 run

• 1st-and-10 from 30 — Muraoka 4 run

• 2nd-and-6 from 26 — Muraoka 6 run

• 1st-and-10 from 20 — Muraoka minus-5 run (Hunter Thomson)

• 2nd-and-15 from 25 — Woolsey incomplete to Pedroza

• 3rd-and-15 from 25 — Woolsey incomplete to Poueu-Luna

• 4th-and-15 from 25 — Woolsey incomplete to Barker

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Keelan Ewaliko:

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Quinton Pedroza:

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The future — Dejon Allen, Kiha Sai, Elijah Tupai, Brenden Urban, David Griffin, R.J. Hollis, Leo Koloamatangi, John Wa‘a:

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161 Responses to “Sneak preview”

  1. ai-eee-soos:

    mornin


  2. BigWave96744:

    Great late night snack.. Thanks for working hard Stephen


  3. ai-eee-soos:

    lookin good ...

    The future — Dejon Allen, Kiha Sai, Elijah Tupai, Brenden Urban, David Griffin, R.J. Hollis, Leo Koloamatangi, John Wa‘a:


  4. BigWave96744:

    From the last blogpost.....

    I hope Hawaii fans weren't using racial slurs during the Wahine bball game vs West VA.
    I hear them all the time from drunk, ignorant, low life's at Aloha Stadium and sometime at the SSC.
    In the 2000 Rainbow Classic a stupid Hawaii drunk was dropping the N-bomb and calling out Tennessee's Ron Slay. The day before, also getting racial bombs was St Louis Billekin power forward Justin Tatum, when he fouled out. Make A for Hawaii. The guy shut up when Tatum turn and gave the guy a scary stink eye


  5. BigWave96744:

    Hope DT Gus Lakava still comes next fall after his mission.


  6. al:

    add lavaka...?
    what up with zwhaley?


  7. al:

    bigwave dave...for real we should banish them to black rock island off of rabbit island. one cup water and one cracker per day.


  8. BigWave96744:

    Anyone exciting guy due next fall is John Ursua.
    I still wonder if John and Keith Kirkwood would one day pull double duty and try out for the BBall team.
    Speaking of which David Griffin's bro Chris is backup forward for the Auburn Tigers


  9. BigWave96744:

    Zwahlen and DT Keti Salakielu are due in 2015...well so we hope


  10. Whats up:

    The future look pretty good with the talent in the waiting in the wings. But as far as the present? Wyoming is a winnable game, but the question is Hawaii going to show up and play mistake free football. The refs didn't help Hawaii at home against SDSU and I expect Wyoming to get more calls go there way at home. Hawaii should win this game in a squeaker, dispite the cold weather and altitude.

    Hawaii 38
    Wyoming 35


  11. UHfan808:

    Good morning, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers! :)


  12. Papololoco:

    We are so dead next year.


  13. papajoe2:

    Good morning everybody!


  14. Hon2255:

    Tuileta. Starter. Next season. Ain't got no one else as accurate as he us currently.


  15. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    Just ban the lowlife from the UH games might be the answer. A ticket isn't a license to get racial.


  16. pu'uwai:

    Aloha kakahiaka. The future does look bright for the OL.

    Imua Rainbow Warriors!!!


  17. jeezy33:

    Yikes... That's a lot of incomplete passes and INTs by Woolsey... Very nervous with our QB situation next year.


  18. boolakanaka:

    16--Agree with you Tommui and other tasikos, that cite the problem of either drunk, totally ignorant and/or racist from fans from Hawai'i. During the Wagner run, I was sitting with some ex-players from my era, both local and guys from the mainland, and these group of local guys, were blatantly yelling n--er this, n--er that to the players on the field, and telling people to go back to Africa.

    Just plain stupid and embarrassing to hear. Well, long story short, a very terse and direct request (that's putting it nicely) for them to stop immediately, came from our group. Well, after a very brief sticking out the chest and "what-what you rough??!". ..recognizing there were some ex_UH players in our group, and well, some very large, large guys....they quickly apologized and said that was only meant for mainland black folks. Still really ignorant and racist.....but, it also a sad reality, that even in Hawai'i, we have a very small quarter, that perpetuates awful behavior and stereotypes.


  19. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    *tsigh* Alcohol seems to bring out the worst in people.
    *coughLegalizepakalolocough*


  20. Liz Kauai (iPad):

    Quinton Pedroza... WEAR YOUR HELMET!


  21. Liz Kauai (iPad):

    Alcohol... Argh.

    Death, on the other hand, has been a messenger of joy experience here. Mahalo, mahalo, mahalo for the outpouring o Tsai-ko love that has been flowing to the Garden Island. Positive thoughts and unconditional love truly lift us up. Let us turn this power towards our Rainbow Warriors and cheer their hearts and lift them to Victory!
    It's all about the (frickin) kids.
    GO RAINBOW WARRIORS!!!


  22. Jonj:

    All Higgins does is move the ball. Woosley not looking very good. But if given a couple years might develope nicely. Have to agree that it's tuiletas job to lose at this point. Especially since Higgins will never get a real shot.


  23. Dan-O:

    #22....coaching staff needs to bring in a JC QB. Open competition between Graham, Woosley, Tuileta, and JC QB.

    Agree, Higgins will never get a fair shot.


  24. Former UH Athlete:

    Great picture with "The Future"

    14... Tuileta looks good vs HS defenses, so don't get too excited about accuracy at this point. Need to see it in Fall camp (or Spring camp if he's enrolls early) vs D1 players.

    QB situation is not looking good at this point for 2014. Even if Tuileta wins the job (he'll be in the mix), UH will have to ride through the inevitable freshmen mistakes.

    ---

    Recruiting is going well... Plus this year's redshirts will upgrade the OLine (which is the biggest concern in 2012 and 2013). Castro, Rasmussen and Pedroza appear to be immediate impact guys that are sitting this year due to transfer rules.

    Tavita Eli and Gifford look promising for 2015 and beyond (assuming they redshirt 2014).

    --

    Offensively, I think UH will be ok next year. We're seeing what a healthy Iosefa can produce and I think there's a good chance Iosefa has a monster year if the redshirts linemen do in fact improve the blocking. I like the talent at WR, but the issue will be if the QB can just avoid mistakes. IF UH can get an Alex Smith type game manager performance during 2014, I think UH gets to a bowl game. There's enough talent here to make it happen. The QBs at UH can't be relied to win games, they just need to make the easy throws move the chains and hit the occasional deep ball off the playaction.

    UH has played well in most of the 1st halves this year, but they have had major problems in 3rd quarters all year. This tells me that the staff is doing a pretty good job with game planning during the week, but are really struggling to counter the other team's halftime adjustments. It's not easy since the other team doesn't tell you what they're doing, but it can't take 15-20 of game time to figure it out.

    I see this team improving next year at almost every position group, but the biggest limiting factor is the QB position and if Kaumeyer can improve his improve his in-game adjustments.


  25. A-House:

    looking for LizK mailing address


  26. Wes'side Warrior:

    Morning, Gang!

    Looking forward to these last two games... hopeful that we will finally put together a complete game and get that ever-elusive "W".

    Shucks, are we doing coffee this morning? Been busy since 4:30 am, and just thought about it now.

    Looking at the sequence of plays above, how come Higgins only had one series, while Woolsey did all the rest?


  27. Think2Much:

    My observation is that our problem is not "talent level". Every team has talent. Many teams have more talent. Stanford had more talent than Utah but lost. Also, Hawaii will never get or keep 4 and 5 star recruits. Still, we have competed (and won) in the past and will do so in the future. In so many games, its the inability to take advantage of turnovers and the mental errors that has kept us from winning. Why do some teams do it so well? What are the intangibles?


  28. A-House:

    if Chow continues to NOT allow the reserve QBs playing time - then he will be faced with another group of untested players for 2014 and 2015

    I don't expect Zwahlen to make an immediate impact after going a 2-yr mission with very little or no time to "condition" and practice - may be like the Naval officer who sat in Hanoi Hilton over 6 years and daily he would envision playing golf at favorite course - came back and promptly shot a 4 over par


  29. A-House:

    #27: the "will" to win and coaching


  30. Moocher:

    i think next year will go down as the greatest 1 year turn around in D1 history.
    sorry jj lovers


  31. Wes'side Warrior:

    We have been burned again and again when we jump off-sides on defense, and we just stand around and stop playing, while the opposing offense takes advantage of the confusion and lights us up. Need to play until that whistle is blown! And can we wrap up again, instead of just throwing a shoulder out with the hopes of knocking the guy down? Missing lots of tackles these past few games.

    We played tough the first half, and then...

    What?

    Do we feed them a 6-course meal at halftime? Seems like we are dead slow after the half. No energy. No fire. No intensity. Offense AND defense.


  32. boolakanaka:

    30--With all afforded respect to you, but a 10 win season? Seriously, how about we just try the old adage of "baby steps", and get a win, and then get another, and see how it goes from there...

    D1 football is an incredibly hard thing to predict, even when you have top-notch talent, resources and history on your side, if you have any doubt to this, just ask Lane Kiffin and Brian Kelly. A injury there, a fumble there, and you are looking at a losing season. So while I always support the boys fully, to say a 10 win season is forthcoming, is well, possible, but highly unlikely.


  33. PurpleMaple:

    Talent must equate to Ws. Next season we'll see if Chow can deliver. I haven't given up on Taylor Graham. The off season should do him good. Sean Schroeder improved even without the benefit of spring ball.


  34. Derek:

    Remember that Ewaliko and Ursua has played and started at QB in juicy school. They are speedy and athletic. They can run some option and read option. Passing accuracy may be dicey. Still, I hope the coaches are searching for a dual threat type QB either in JC or freshman besides Tuileta coming in. You can never have enough QBs and RBs because of injuries.

    Chow must be the luckiest man on the face of the earth. Possible 0-12 and not on the hot seat, at least locally and not by Ben Jay. Let's see if Miami O, S. Miss, UConn, and Georgia St., all winless teams currently, if the coaches retain their jobs.


  35. Buffoman:

    #31, I agree with your observation on the tackling. Seems like they've gone back to the old days where they assumed running into the opponent would result in a tackle. "Wrapping up" is a lost technique.


  36. Derek:

    Sorry, meant high school.


  37. Ipu Man:

    Why would Wyoming want to wear white? Is it gonna snow?


  38. Former UH Athlete:

    23... totally agree Chow needs to find a JC QB to compete for starting job in 2014...

    More importantly, he needs to hire a QB and/or WR coach to work with the units, or hire somebody knowledgeable enough to handle both groups. It's clear Chow has too much on his plate and it's affected the offense.

    No offense to Jordan Wynn, but a GA is nowhere near experienced enough to handle the responsibilities he's been forced into. Remember, GAs are still working on their masters, so it's not like they have all day to think/coach football.


  39. Shoko:

    I think Chow needs to get to the postseason or close to it next year along with some marquee wins against quality opponents. If not, the voices of discontent will only get louder and attendance will continue to dwindle. Might need changes in the coaching staff to accomplish next years goals, in my opinion.


  40. NotNasti:

    I'll take a 1 win season at this point.


  41. Jack Flash:

    We already have talented players. What we are missing are good "in game" coaches. Until that happens, we will not be a winning team. The players deserved to beat SDSU, and the caoches let them down. The coaches should be embarassed and disgusted with how they managed this last game. Coach Chow said "failure is only failure when you start blaming others." Well guess what coach, YOU are failing this team and I blame YOU!!!


  42. Former UH Athlete:

    30... Can't fault the enthusiasm

    31... The quit playing after offsides is disturbing. UNLV did that 2 or 3 times for big plays when UH jumped, then the center snapped the ball for a free play. It looks so dis-jointed on offense so I guess the defense assumes a whistle is coming. Still no excuse for not playing it out. That's something Kaumeyer needs to remind the team.

    "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice (or more), shame on me"

    The missed tackles have been worrisome the past month. UH seemed like they were wrapping up fine the 1st half of season, but it has really broken down the past 3-4 games. At the UNLV game on several plays, UH was quick to the ballcarrier, but failed to bring him down most of the time, turning what should have been short gains into 6-10 yard plays.


  43. Manoa Mist:

    #24: I'd take Tuileta over Sean Schroeder or anybody UH has right now. Wish we had Tuileta this season. He can throw it. He's athletic. He's going to be a good one. Now if he just had an OC to work with...


  44. BigWave96744:

    Everyone looks good in High School. Every recruit's highlight film validates them to be a D1 starter as a true frosh. Many are called (future starters), few are chosen.


  45. (Jesse)James:

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

    Hope all have a great day....

    Good to see some of the "Young Guns" :-)


  46. jeezy33:

    More on Nick Nelson...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/11/19/suitland-db-nick-nelson-commits-to-hawaii/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co


  47. jeezy33:

    If Hawaii can learn to play more discipline and stop making unforced errors, they can win games.

    I'd say Hawaii should have probably won UNLV and SDSU if it weren't for some bone headed plays.

    I predict Hawaii blows out Army to pick up a win going into next season.


  48. Former UH Athlete:

    WEATHER FORECAST FOR SATURDAY

    Laramie, WY

    HIGH TEMP = 32 deg
    LOW TEMP = 16 deg
    WIND = 9 mph

    "Abundant Sunshine"

    The boys will be arriving in Laramie to mid 20's with light snow...

    I'll set the over/under for number of times announcers reference temperature and Hawaii at 5.


  49. UHAlum:

    ST
    Didn't UH get a commitment from a QB that went on a mission?
    UH recruiting has been the best in years....so just hope next year is the breakout year.


  50. jimmy the lock:

    Too bad hype does not translate into wins.

    Been reading the hype the last 4 years and nada.

    One day, one season, the hype, the potential, will become "W's".

    And I agree, discipline on the field is directly related to coaching.


  51. jeezy33:

    49. Unfortunately we need a QB next year.... and Zwahlen won't be back till the year after...

    Hawaii has to hit the JC route... Hopefully a December grad. Woolsey and Graham aren't going to lead the team to wins next year. I like Tuileta but I don't want to put too much on a true freshman to lead Hawaii. Even Chang struggled early and he knew the run and shoot from St Louis.


  52. boolakanaka:

    47 Jeezy to have go to agree with you on both the discipline and penalties phase of the game, if not for their sloppy play and penalties, both the UNLV and SDSU games could have been wins.


  53. Whats up:

    # 49 Aaron Zwalhen is the 4 Star QB that went on mission until 2015.


  54. Derek:

    Winning is a by product of executing solid fundamentals and mental discipline, things we are sorely lacking in. That's coaching or lack of. We have better talent now and that's frustrating not to win. We don't have enough play making from our quarterbacks and I don't like some of the play calling. Not enough deception and too predictable.


  55. cocobean:

    #34. In 2011 USM (S.Miss.) was first in Conference USA and beat Reno in the Sheraton HI Bowl. Larry Fedora parlayed his success at USM into the HC job at N. Carolina. In 2012, with a new HC, USM went 0-12. They fired that coach. With a new HC in 2013 they're 0-10.

    There must be a lesson or a moral to be learned from this situation but I'm not smart enough come up with it. The only thing I can gleen from the above story is the S.HI Bowl must be in deep kimchee. UH has not played in it since 2010.


  56. Whats up:

    I think it's still Taylor Graham and Woosley jobs to lose next season. Tuileta will have beat out Taylor Graham for sure to get the starting job and I don't think Woosley will go down with out a fight either. Higgins is a good QB but this pocket passing dominated offense isn't a good fit for him. Playing good against the scout team doesn't mean much when your a back up to the back up but playing bad against the scout team means sitting on the bench forever.


  57. Dan-O:

    If Chow doesnt find the answer to the QB position next year, I don't think he will be around to worry about how Zwalhen works out in 2015. Heck, if Chow is gone, so might be Zwalhen. I believe his dad and Chow were teammates or Chow coached him or something at BYU.


  58. jeezy33:

    I would rather just offer this kid... Colt Brennan 2.0 Saddleback Gunslinger

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/444531/highlights/80500376?autoplay=1


  59. jeezy33:

    Something about Saddleback College recruits that turn out to be Game Changing guys for Hawaii... Colt & AC.


  60. dannyp:

    While we're on the topic of JC QB's my dude is Skyler Howard from Riverside CC. 4 for 3, mid year transfer so he'll be here for spring ball, and he's a winner (QB for the #6 ranked team in the nation).

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1143318/highlights/74783375?autoplay=1


  61. Dan-O:

    Just thinking out loud....but bring in a top notch JC QB, have him take the reins for two years. This would allow Tuileta/Zwhalen to get a good grasp of the game speed (or possibly redshirt them one year). Then have those two young QB's battle it out for number one.


  62. dannyp:

    58

    Not to sure how I feel about a QB that only has a .500 record.


  63. obachan:

    #27 Not all coaches are capable of bringing out the maximum potential of their recruits. It takes a special skill-set to know how to teach & groom each student athlete to reach their potential. Given that UH will not reap 5 star recruits on a regular basis, it is imperative that a coach possess those characteristics.


  64. Jeezy33:

    62. Not much you can do when your defense gives up 40+ points


  65. Jeezy33:

    Saddleback almost upset riverside and beat my sac...


  66. Jeezy33:

    Also... Sometimes need to note that you have to be cautious sometimes recruiting QBs who play for powerhouse programs as they have superior talent on the team.... better to look for the guy who impacts the team with less talent


  67. jimmy the lock:

    Unlucky has nothing to do with the Warriors.


  68. Kapahulu:

    BigWave96744:
    For games at Stan Sheriff Center (probably also at Aloha Stadium) if some fan near you is using offensive language, you may report it to the nearest Usher or if you prefer, to the Usher Supervisor. This will usually result in the offending party to be given a warning. If it comes to a second warning, it would probably be their last warning where they would be told another occurrence would result in them being EJECTED from the Arena.


  69. Leahi2:

    #67 Jeezy33. Very good point. When a QB can withstand the pass rush and all the other harassment (not to mention the beating), you've got a player on your hands. Note too the quality of his pass receivers. So you may not have a prospect with 2K, 3K, 4K, statistics and just doesn't match up to big numbers, yet you got to judge his composure, quick thinking, and ability to move. Yes he's got to be tough and smart! Strangley enough you find them year after year at the service academies


  70. Former UH Athlete:

    67... On a slightly different level, you mean like Mark Sanchez, Matt Barkley, and John David Booty at USC and every QB that's played for Alabama under Nick Saban.


  71. Former UH Athlete:

    Parker-Wilson, McElroy & McCarren for Alabama.


  72. Former UH Athlete:

    All 6 of those QBs stink at the NFL level (Barkley is still relatively untested) Their fantastic college numbers are produced with superior talent around them.


  73. BigWave96744:

    Recently Saddleback also fed us QB Jason Wheildon, Punter Tim Grasso, WR Mike Tinoco, OT Brent Leonard and LB Aaron Brown


  74. Stephen Tsai:

    Not sure if I'll be alive in 2015, but if I am, I'm pretty sure Ikaika Woolsey will be the guy.
    He's got the physical skills and he's smart. He just needs to ease up on the emotions a little bit.


  75. BigWave96744:

    Yup being surrounded by talent can tilt the scale.
    Ask Ed Orgeron who's win total is 3,4,3 in 3 years at Ole Miss but not is 5-1 as USC HC


  76. Stephen Tsai:

    Higgins is smart, can scramble, is accurate on short passes.
    Trouble is it seems he floats too many passes. This is correctable, I imagine, because he occasionally can whip it. But he's not consistent with his velocity, and that's keeping him on the sidelines. Not sure what to do. More sessions with Vince Passas? Maybe go to Bob Johnson and work on techniques? He's got a lot going for him except for the velocity.


  77. gobows:

    I thought heckling of the student athletes was against ncaa policy and cause for removal from the event site.

    #65
    so is chan, chin, choy, chun, shin, wang, and hawaii's #1 in the phone directory wong. Japanese follow that same thinking on the #4, and thats why tea cups and rice bowls come in sets of 5.


  78. Stephen Tsai:

    It sounds like everyone is to blame in the women's basketball mess.
    Coaches were baiting refs, who incited their fans, who then incited local-looking fans.
    Like I said yesterday: Idiots.


  79. gobows:

    so it wasnt a local idiot at the stanley?


  80. Stephen Tsai:

    Ewaliko, by the way, has bulked up. He's going to be a safety in the spring.


  81. BigWave96744:

    Can't the UH coaching staff do a better job working with Higgins than his high school position coach?


  82. Stephen Tsai:

    BigWave:
    I think they do work with Higgins on his throwing.
    I try to couch around it because I'm polite, but if people want to know the reason he's not playing, it's because his throws lack velocity.
    That game he started, he did well, then the defense moved up, and dared him to throw deep. Now granted, the conditions were not conducive to throwing. It was cold, windy and on the road.
    The coaches like Higgins. This staff gave him a scholarship (the previous staff did not), but until it's fixed, it's broken.


  83. BigWave96744:

    Too many non-African ethnic people using the "N-bomb" now days.
    There was a segment on the Colin Cowherd show about this.
    Some say it's ok if you replace "er" with "ah"
    Either way it shouldn't be said...


  84. Stephen Tsai:

    By the way, Higgins is an amazing athlete.


  85. BigWave96744:

    Higgins is a junior already. At this point, spring ball is 4 months away, so chances of him changing and improving his throwing motion in that short of time is rather slim. That's like coaches trying to correct Colt's side arm throw.


  86. BigWave96744:

    I thought he would be sent to Passas because our current QB coach is younger or around the same age as Jeremy's brothers Cameron and Zach


  87. Not an Expert:

    Checking if using the word idiot allows one's comment to be posted?


  88. Not an Expert:

    There were many talented athletes who played QB that did not play that position and transitioned to another and had success.


  89. Not an Expert:

    Good cop bad cop.

    Tsai is the good cop.

    Reardon is the bad cop.

    Need both to have enough info to come out of the UH athletic department.


  90. A-House:

    Saddleback QB seems to have a stronger arm than Riverside QB - passes don't "float" - straight line to WRers

    Yet, latter seems to have quicker feet and speed than Saddleback

    both seem to have accurate passes with all the passes into multiple defenders with edge to Saddleback.

    Saddleback QB reminds me more of Colt B in "body language"


  91. A-House:

    al:

    need to confirm our meeting place and time for the last game


  92. Wes'side Warrior:

    Dang!

    Prayers for Ben Jay...

    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24014424/uh-ad-ben-jay-suffers-complication-admitted-to-hospital-following-post-game-fight?utm_content=buffer05dda&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer

    A CT scan revealed "transverse process fractures" in Jay's lumbar region (L1, L2, and L3) and bleeding around one of his kidneys, according to a University of Hawaii news release. He was admitted to Straub Clinic and Hospital Monday night and is expected to be discharged later Tuesday.


  93. Think2Much:

    Another problem with UH strategy of "riding" Iosepa is that he is taking more on his shoulder than he should. Since his return, it seems he is playing more physical and taking hits instead of being more shifty like in the past. While he's also punishing the tacklers, over the game, the number of hits build up and he's one against many so the concern is injury. Why aren't we using speed backs to surprise/go around the end after faking to Iosepa up the middle? Won't we gain an advantage if you slow the D by a step? Isn't that what Boise does all game?


  94. A-House:

    I don't believe a team's season record is a reason to not have interest in a player

    after all, who won the Heisman trophy playing for a team with a losing record - he could run, pass, and kick


  95. Bowwar:

    ST: If Higgins is a good athlete, maybe he should move to defense (safety) or to a slot position on offense...

    Racial slurs should be barred from any sporting event and violators removed. Easier said than done, but it has no business in sports. What ever happened to "good sportsmanship"?


  96. Dan-O:

    #94....if Iosefa had been available from the game one, he would NOT be running like he has the past two games. The physical toll of the season would definitely wear on his body, forcing a different running style at times.

    Iosefa is running like a mad man because his body is basically in real good shape....no wear and tear from the long season. This game alone, he came out more than a few times after being dinged up a bit.

    BUT....damn, its fun to watch him blast defenders out of the way.


  97. Derek:

    Sign that guys from Saddleback RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Somebody tell Chow, RIGHT NOW!!!!!


  98. NotNasti:

    This past Saturday, an SDSU DB "ran into" Joey after he caught a swing pass. The DB bounced off Joey, and took a loooong time getting up off the ground.


  99. jeezy33:

    91. I just like his gunslinger mentality that Colt had too. He throws some lasers down the middle of the field... He does need to work on his footwork but he is accurate even with some minor footwork problems. Surprised how good some of his throws are off his back foot...

    Like I said, Saddleback has been very good to us in Hawaii. So maybe I am biased here....


  100. jm2375:

    Get well soon to Mr. Jay.


  101. Dan-O:

    #100....I'm with you. I love the way he just looks so confident in the pocket...quick decisions with ball, whether passing or running. No hesitation....has a swagger, much like Colt.


  102. JustAsking:

    #76: the situation at USC can also be used as an example of how a coach can elevate the talent on the team. Coach O takes over in mid-season, same coaching staff, same players, very difference performance on the field. Fewer penalties, fewer mental mistakes. This is not the same team that lost to Wazzu in the home opener, back when Kiffen was rotating QBs, calling his own plays, making dumb comments to the media..... Wow, sound familiar???


  103. Papololoco:

    Hawaii needs a QB who is ready NOW and not learning on the fly. TG has not convinced me that he's ready for the job but I know that Chow will just give it to him anyway. It took SS a season worth of beatings to finally grasp the Offense. I agree that we need a good quality JC QB to come in and take over because if we have to go with what we have right now then we're srewed.


  104. Ballpicker:

    True dat....get well soon Mr Jay and my thoughts and prayers are with you as you mend. But next time, leave this kind of thing to the professionals.

    Go Joey and let's win one this weekend at Larimie.

    Go Warriors.


  105. Dan-O:

    #103....similar situations, except the fact that there has been no on-field evidence that the team has quit on the coaching staff.

    A main reason that Kiffen was fired was because the team quit on him in the second half of the ASU game. Hence, he was fired upon arrival at LAX.

    Our boys are still playing hard, granted they make some mental/physical mistakes, etc.....but the effort they are giving is not questioned.


  106. dannyp:

    100

    I'm all for the gunslinger mentality but he attacks double coverage too much for my liking. I think those passes get picked at the D1 level. Also for someone with NFL size and video game numbers why is Belman so under recruited?


  107. jeezy33:

    107. Colt Brennan learned the hard way on his 1st series against USC. He almost went to Florida this past off season.... That stuff you are mentioning if fixable... The fact he has the arm to fit it into coverage and drop it into zones shows that he has upside.. Colt put balls into double coverage all the time... It's about ball placement..

    On the other hand, I know you like the Riverside kid but lot of the video has Blackmon (Oregon transfer) just wide open waiting for balls. Arm looks average. Also his O line protects so well. I'm not saying he isn't solid but it's so hard to judge a guy based on highlights with superior talent all around.

    Heres his write up...

    Saddleback QB Tim Belman - As a freshman last fall, Belman went 266 of 438 (60.7%) for 2,989 yards with 22 touchdowns and 12 interceptions earning First Team All-Conference and All-State honors while leading Saddleback to a 6-5 record. Rumors were that Belman had some SEC and Pac 12 programs after him this spring, but things never materialized and he will be at the controls of the Gauchos' attack this fall. Luckily for him he has his top target back (Eric Lauderdale) and the potential is there for them


  108. JustAsking:

    106: Absolutely agree that there is no quit in our team. It is truly admirable that they continue to fight to the very last second of every game....


  109. jimmy the lock:

    Can't teach a 75 mph max fastball pitcher to throw 90 mph heater.

    Same as you can't teach an 11 second 100m sprinter to be another Usain Bolt.


  110. Old Diver:

    106

    Another huge reason for the firing was attendance which dropped 25 to 30 thousand a game. The fans spoke and the USC administration listened.


  111. jimbo:

    new warrior!?!!

    http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43948

    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Nelson-140976


  112. Ipu Man:

    Joe Montana used to "float" passes all the time. Guess he could not play for UH...


  113. jimbo:

    oops

    https://twitter.com/migo_quis/status/402591858880040961


  114. greenthumb:

    Just read the news update about Ben Jay being in the hospital and the severity of his injuries. I hope he heals quickly and without lingering effects.

    I also hope those who chose to throw verbal and physical punches after the women's game take a deep look inside, reflect on why they were in the arena in the first place (supporting STUDENT athletes), and then accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions. If not, they need to realize what lessons they are teaching their families [fans] and their students [coaching staff].

    With due respect, I don't think we should be calling these individuals idiots. I think we should be calling them what they are -- selfish, self-centered, foolish, and dangerous. I work with teenagers and have had it past "up to here" with adults who don't take responsibility for their choices.


  115. jimbo:

    gee just saw this on sportshawaii too...true?!!?
    but you guys probably already know this and I missed it! lol
    sorry for the repeat if so

    Moanaluafootball.com twitter: https://twitter.com/MoanaluaFB/status/400741272656162816


  116. jimmy the lock:

    If SS can play for UH then Montana can play for UH.


  117. Papololoco:

    #106
    But that's not gonna happen here. Season tickets and PPV sales are plummeting but is the UH Admin listening, no. They're talking about giving Chow another year, that's just insane. It's almost like they're deliberately trying to kill the FB program because that's what's gonna happen if Chow comes back next year. And then they'll turn around the blame the fans for low attendence. Well the UH fans are speaking out, we have absolutely no confidence in this coaching satff, I just cannot believe they don't see that or even worse, they're just not listening.


  118. jimmy the lock:

    I guess it's much easier to change the name from Warriors to Rainbow Warriors than changing a coaching staff.


  119. Kapahulu:

    Maddog50, Papajoe2:
    I'm glad you guys said that you thought you heard the whistle on the UH offsides play that resulted in a touchdown for SDSU. I heard it too!
    Yesterday I attended the UH Na Koa Football Luncheon where one of the UH Assistant Coaches said that he was told by some players that they thought they heard the whistle.
    I guess that is why most of the players stopped playing.
    That play alone could have been the difference in the game.
    The officiating in that game was unbelievably bad.


  120. NotNasti:

    @106 & 118: Our situation is MUCH different from USC. The difference is Money, and they have lots of it. Money for coaches salaries, money for buyouts and money for scholarships. Every position on the football team is endowed (privately funded). No school money is used for football scholarships. If they (big donors) want a coach replaced, they just open their wallets and let their money do the talking. Replacing the coach, even a winless coach here at UH will not do much for the bottom line. The formula in Hawaii is to win, win against big schools and rally around an exciting player or too. Think Gary Allen & David Toloumu, Jeff Sydner and Garrett Gabriel, Chad Owens, Colt Brennan & Davonne Bess. In basketball, think AC Carter & Alika Smith (Batman & Robin), Pedrag Savovic, Carl English, and Trevor Ruffin, etc.


  121. Whats up:

    Jeezy33 and dannyp

    Colt was a great QB, no question. But he did have 4 top notch WR's to throw into double and triple coverage and some good RB's as well. Bryant Moniz was a great QB in 2010 because he had WR Pilares and Salas that were also top notched as well, plus RB Alex Green. As we all remember that in 2011 Moniz didn't have a great year without Pilares, Salas and Alex Green. Thats the thing right now Hawaii doesn't have top notch WR corp and RB yet? We all know the O-line play needs to improve but without a group of top notch WR's and RB it doesn't matter if the Saddleback CC QB or Riverside CC QB plays they both are going to end up like the QB's this season, sacked!

    All the pieces have to be in place like the 2006-2007-2010 seasons for Hawaii to get back to 10 win seasons. This team has QB's on the roster that can play ball and there are incoming QB Tuileta and Aaron Zwalhen. The WR play has to be top notch like Stutz (older brother), Chad Owens, Leile, Bess, Rivers, RJM, Salas and Pilares with RB's play like Green and Nate. The future looks good for WR play and RB play, there are 2 WR on the roster that is playing at a high top notch level is Scott Harding and Joey Iosefa. But the rest of the younger WR and RB underclassmen need to step it up and play at a high level to help the future QB out. Colt Brennan, Timmy Chang and Bryant Moniz did have top notch help and without that help we wouldn't be talking about them as the winning record holding great Hawaii QB's.
    step it up to match the top notch play of Harding and Iosefa.


  122. SteveM:

    2014 Superbowl hotel is a mega cruise ship
    Just read this on a Nov. 8, 2013 CruiseCritic news article:

    Pigskin, Suds & a Cruise Ship?

    This year several thousand lucky football fans heading east for the Super Bowl will be staying not in a regular hotel, but on a cruise ship. Norwegian's brand new Getaway, to be specific. Only it won't quite be a Norwegian Cruise Line ship. Instead, the ship will be transformed into a Bud Light-themed hotel, complete with Bud Light logos imprinted on thousands of pillows, hand towels, shampoo bottles and other shipboard items. Lodging for fans will be available from Thursday night before the big game through Monday morning. Norwegian Getaway will depart after the Super Bowl for its year round homeport of Miami.

    Hmmmm...for years we noted that a full football field could easily fit on today's mega-cruise ships. Maybe that's the next step... an NFL cruise ship complete with football field (just gotta give up a few pools and water park). :shock:


  123. NotNasti:

    In the words of hizzoner Mayor Billy Kenoi, "prepare for the worst, but hope for the best."


  124. cocobean:

    #118. Again, take a look at USM. 2011 Larry Fedora guides them to their conference championship then leaves for UNC. 2012 they go 0-12 and fire their first year head coach. 2013 they are now 0-10 with a new head coach. What should they do? Fire another HC after a year?

    What ever our record ends up this year is on Chow and his staff. In the eyes of many they don't deserve a third year. I'm among those who say give them a third year then decide what to do. I feel Chow gives us the best chance at long term stability. If he breaks through and starts to, in his words, chase championships won't leave for the first BCS school that comes a calling.

    Next year he and his staff should be a year smarter. Chow's inexperience as a head coach was compounded by the numberof inexperienced assistants he surrounded himself with. He doesn't have to be told his #1 recruiting need is not a player but an Offensive Coordinator. He should ask the Punahou Mafia to cough some extra $$$ so he can make an offer a good OC can't refuse.

    Chow and staff was replacing a staff with great teachers - Tomey, Mouse, Cal, Miano, Shaw and good tacticians - Rolo, Aranda. It's no wonder why Chow and Co. have not corrected a lot of what is correctable, they're still in the learning process.


  125. Buffoman:

    Who is the player from Moanalua being referenced?

    #125 well stated.


  126. eMpTy:

    Just a thought but maybe the Warriors can do the Haka in the locker room during halftime and hopefully that would make them come out with more energy in the third quarters of games. Go Rainbow Warriors...


  127. Shoko:

    I think the situation at Southern Miss in 2012 was more than just an 0-12 season under Ellis Johnson. It was about Johnson rubbing the people that mattered the wrong way that expedited his exit. Todd Monken doesn't seem to have that problem in his first year aside from what looks like a repeat 0-12 season like his predecessor. I don't think they fire Monken after one season.

    It's strange to think the last time Southern Miss won a game was in 2011 Hawaii Bowl against Nevada. That's a long time to go without a victory.


  128. Shoko:

    "transverse process fractures" in Jay's lumbar region (L1, L2, and L3) and bleeding around one of his kidneys."

    That doesn't sound so good. Hope for a speedy recovery for BJ.


  129. wafan:

    Good evening!


  130. wafan:

    Oh joy . . .

    Another over-priced building with huge cost overruns UH and the state can run down to a shambles complete with locked restrooms, leaking roof, and suspect H/VAC.

    How well preserved with Inouye's papers be in a few years?

    I sure hope there is a real commitment to truly maintain the facility.


  131. wafan:

    Get well, BJ!


  132. wafan:

    Prayers and positive thoughts for those in need.

    You know who you are!


  133. Old School Dave:

    Boise State's new Football Center:

    http://www.boisestatefootball.com/facilities/bleymaier-football-center

    http://www.boisestatefootball.com/facilities/weight-room-0#pagecontent


  134. jeezy33:

    122. We can only hope that Pedroza gives us a big threat next year. Kirkwood will be a lot more polished. Harding should be improved. I think Stubblefield makes a impact immediately. Hopefully Kemp or Barker can give us that tall possession type option. Curious to see how Josh Long does as a H back.


  135. NorthShoreFan:

    Will there be criminal charges filed? Police investigation?

    Good to see the commits coming in.

    IMUA WARRIORS!


  136. oldtimer808:

    The West Virginia asst coach should not have called the idiot fan to come down. As a coach you have to be thick skinned and walk away. You will always at any arena have idiots whose sole purpose in life is to be an idiot. I would have to say that the coach on WV qualifies as an idiot too. May you heal quickly Mr. Jay.


  137. oldtimer808:

    Just a thought that with all that is happening in the Philippines, we are blessed to be able to wake up with our love ones. Our football season is so minor compared to the suffering happening right now in the Philippines. Our student/athletes need our support and next year will be a breakout year. I am impressed with the hard work our coaches have put in the recruiting process targeting our local kids and kids across the mainland.


  138. obachan:

    Par for the course. Another faux pas & poor judgment by UH to not have security at athletic events. What the heck do they have campus security for?


  139. NorthShoreFan:

    Back in the early 80's didn't have to lock the doors to the house when we went out for the evening.
    Didn't have police at the games either.
    Now....how times have changed...or is it just the people have changed?
    Rearing more trolls and idiots?


  140. SteveM:

    Healing wishes for Ben Jay!

    The bottom line in the basketball melee is that it was our idiot fan that precipitated things in the first place. Yes, the WV coach is at fault too. Fortunately/unfortunately our Athletic Director was there to witness things first hand and was actively involved up to the point of hospitalization.

    One can expect that Ben Jay will take appropriate action regarding future security. Let's hope that it is also proportional to the need.


  141. obachan:

    141 We reap the consequences of moral relativism in our society. No more sense of right and wrong. After all, we shouldn't discriminate should we? Back in the old days one of the worse things one could do especially in oriental cultures, was to bring shame to the family name. Not so evident now.


  142. oldtimer808:

    He was actively involved in trying to break it up. You will always have an idiot or idiots that attend these sporting events but as a coach you have to ignore it and walk away.


  143. NorthShoreFan:

    Aloha and Mahalo to the new Basebow recruits!
    Looking forward to watching you guys on our "Field of Dreams".


  144. Buffoman:

    Wow! The dark side of the moon.


  145. Tiki808:

    I think they meant, oops and sorry. Anyway, who was that? The whole story anyway till game time. I think?


  146. kapakahi:

    #135,

    Kemp is a speed guy with major upside.....not really a possession type WR.....but gonna have to improve his route running. Haynes more the possession type WR than Kemp.....but gotta improve his hands. Hearing that Barker has bulked up some so might get a look at TE instead in the Spring......along with Meffy & Long......while Vele might move back to FB (from TE) to compete with Faalologo since Langkilde already a senior.


  147. kapakahi:

    #126,

    WR Donald Lambert


  148. NotNasti:

    Donald Lambert 40 yd dash time = 4.87 sec. Too slow?


  149. Jeezy33:

    150. Kemp is not a speed guy. Don't know where you are getting your information from.. He was a high jump champ, not sprinter.... He obviously can go deep because his strides are long but he is a tall possession wr which Hawaii uses to run a 9 route or a 10 yard hitch majority of the time ... He tested at 4.9 40 out of high school if you need me to back up my facts at a combine ..

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/159215/marcus-kemp


  150. Leahi2:

    #135 Any idea as to Stubblefield's time in the 40? His St Louis coach says that he runs good routes. Fine! But we need speed from those who are expected to make a break from coverage.

    By the way on another note, we need more speed from our DBs also. We can't cover a 4.4 receiver with 4.7 DBs. On this point I'm just taking some figures out of the air but I hope you guys know what I'm talking about. Nobody here talks about those things. Oh yes, there are things about flexibility and stuff like that but its disappointing to see our DBs get caught flatfooted.


  151. cocobean:

    Papololoco. I feel your pain and passion. Admittedly Chow and Co. have not done a good job. In better financial times a strong AD would've pulled the plug on Chow's regime by now.
    But in my opinion, given our financial situation, we have too much invested in the current staff to give up on them now. The recruits they are bringing in deserve a chance to play for the staff they committed to.

    I understand both sides of the costs involved in changing coaches. Some say we can't afford to buy out Chow's last three years and pay for the type of coach who can turn the program around. That even if we did find such a coach we wouldn't be able to hang on to him. Some say we can't afford not to buy Chow out. Attendance/revenue has been dropping and will continue to drop as long as Chow is here. That his legacy here will be the man that killed the football program.

    I applaud BJ for taking a stand on this issue. He's putting his job on the line by backing Chow. Can't imagine either of them holding on to their jobs if the team doesn't show marked improvement next year.


  152. Jeezy33:

    Stubblefield electronically timed low 4.5s at the combine... Been hand timed in upper 4.4s.. He's fast.. Not tabuyo fast but still .... Runs very good routes, and strong hands... Can also make DBs miss after catch


  153. kev-1:

    It is frustrating being a UH football fan for the following reasons . . .

    1. Tired lose.
    2. Potential in many areas seems to be there. Does this mean they are on the cusp of breaking out? Or, is this all they got?
    3. Play calling is mostly very predictable. Then once in awhile, Chow pulls out a good, creative series. Where is this the entire game?
    4. Decision making by the coach is so questionable. Running a clock management offense when you are down by 14 against Navy . . . twice? Running a clock management when you are tied with SDSU? Continuing to run clock management while up by 7 instead of looking to extend your lead?
    5. Recruiting seems to be better than recent years. Does this mean we should wait and see?


  154. kev-1:

    BTW . . . all of you that have written off Taylor Graham . . . you realize he has played 3 football games right? SS has started the rest this year and has led us to just as many wins. Not quite sure why people have written him off. It really isn't fair if you think about it. The hype was so big surrounding him, that if he didn't come out an beat USC and OSU, he sucked. Go back and watch game tape. A big part of the reason he sucked was also because of his receivers early in the year. I agree that he has "touch" problem with his passes. But touch is a part of accuracy that you can actually work on. And yes, in order to work on it, he needs REPS. Sorry Jeezy, I know you don't buy the rep excuse.

    There are people here that are calling for Tuileta to start as a true freshman. Are you kidding me? Watch him live. Not highlights. He doesn't do all the things you expect a college QB to be able to do with his arm.


  155. kev-1:

    What ever happened to Vasquez Haynes?


  156. Jeezy33:

    Yeah I don't buy it but we all have different opinions... The guy doesn't even complete high percentage passes during scrimmages though and SS out played him during fall camp..

    He's not a freshman ...


  157. kev-1:

    Yes. But, SS has been given chance after chance dating back to last year. SS plays way better now because of last years experience. I think it would have been nice if TG could have gotten the same treatment. Especially since this season has been in the hole for a few weeks now.


  158. markazulu:

    It's more important how you build um up and for us fans we NEED it right here and now but the coaches seem to have the we can "rebuild um" mentality I like what i see outta tuileta and i think woosley could be a dangerous qb and so could Graham but i think Graham and woosley lack of game time reps hurts them the most but woosley athletic ability makes up for it in someways


  159. Leron:

    #159 Haynes was injured for the navy game. Played against SJSU but didn't have any catches.


  160. AlaWai:

    I was a supporter of Dr. Chow, however he has shown a lack of game management skills YTD. As HC he should have a better grasp of clock management and a lack of game adjustments. They say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We have seen this game after game. He was also touted as a groomer of QBs. This has definitely not taken place. He was touted as an offensive guru. This too has not been demonstrated. The team has improved in the area of Defense and Special teams, attributable to the maturation of Scott Harding. How do we interpret the loss of an offensive coordinator before the season began? Are we to believe that his west coast offense can succeed with the players on the team and future recruits? Will we see an improvement in the teams performance in the remainder of the games and the rest of Chow's tenure? The most telling problem is the loss of fan support for the team despite a 50% ticket discount. There is also a definite lack of appreciation for season ticket holders. They are the blood of the program and have been no shows for many home games. They deserve more for supporting the program than the single game ticket to Wahine basketbal. The AD has a tough job ahead to turn the program around. It has to begin with a new face and coaching philosophy.


  161. Stephen Tsai:

    Re: No. 90
    I'm neither a good cop nor a bad cop. (Maybe a doughnut-eating cop.)
    But I am the only one on full-time duty.
    I'm the only reporter at every practice, here and on the road.
    That's my job.
    Our two columnists' job is give their opinions. Because of their roles, they try to keep distance, so they rarely go to practices, and they have very limited contact, if any, with the players or coaches. In fact, one of them has not been to a practice this regular season.
    We all have different roles and purposes.