Room available

February 7th, 2014
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The Rainbow Warriors have enough flexibility to add another player or two to this year's recruiting class.

What's more, by the end of this spring semester there should be enough room to award a scholarship to a player — or two — who has been a walk-on for at least two years.

Among the deserving candidates are Josh Donovan, Jason Muraoka, Damien Packer, Mike Martin, Hunter Thomson and Brenden Urban. I'm not sure if Niko Uti and Nick Childs have logged enough time in the program to earn a scholarship without counting as  initial recruits.

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Several years ago, rapper Snoop Lion and former NFL receiver Keyshawn Johnson coached 7-on-7 youth teams that toured.

One of the players was Don'Yeh Patterson of Carson, Calif.

Johnson called his friend, UH coach Norm Chow, to recommend Patterson, now a senior at Carson High. UH studied videos, spoke with people who coach and know Patterson, and then offered a scholarship.

Patterson and Saint Louis School receiver Devan Stubblefield are candidates to play as freshmen. Patterson will compete at X receiver; Stubblefield will compete at Z.

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Microwave a bag of popcorn, grab a beverage and pull up a chair.

Here's John Hardy-Tuliau's "ultimate" highlights: JHT video

122 Responses to “Room available”

  1. Annoddah Dave:

    1?


  2. Ipu Man:

    Good morning Tsai...popcorn for breakfast? Hmmmmmm...


  3. koakane ®:

    morning tsaikos and tsaikettes, nice day

    flying off to molokai and will bring back pick of Peter Pale UH grad, rainbow warrior and MPI grad.

    congrats to rainbow wahines and better luck next time to bball men

    aloha


  4. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Ipu Man - popcorn good anytime of the day. 24/7/365. :D

    Congrats to Wahine softball and basketball teams on their wins last night.

    GO WAHINE!!!
    GO WARRIORS!!!


  5. Haleakala:

    Tough loss by the basketball team last night.

    Kudos to all walk-ons in all sports at UH!


  6. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    The sun is shining brightly and warm today!
    How come? It's Punahou Carnival time. Strange!


  7. tommui:

    Best wishes to the Wahine softballers.
    Congrats to the Wahine BBers.


  8. Stephen Tsai:

    Ipu Man:
    Somewhere in the world it's the afternoon.


  9. al:

    2more...a bounceback and a qb? best athlete available or was that don'yeh?


  10. al:

    tom mui...adriana lima is a japanese-brazilian.


  11. jacklegpreacher:

    Glad to see we are making use of available spots and not wasting time. I am a little late on some of the news- Ah- Tui! preferred walkon- just means you prefer to sit on a bench rather than play. we all know that means no playing time guaranteed, just the jersey. I don't think he will ever log significant minutes at quarterback there. If Matt Cassel, with a scholarship (sure he had better ppl in front of him though) played special teams, tight end, receiver, baseball and only threw 30 passes in 5 years, what does a walkon qb expect from USC? He's no Clay Matthews.... ah well lesson to be learned- go where you are appreciated, not where you are tolerated....


  12. kapakahi:

    ST,

    Walk-on tryouts next week?

    http://warriorbeat.staradvertiserblogs.com/2013/02/16/chasing-the-dream/


  13. jeezy33:

    9. I hope we add a OL or DL. Someone versatile enough where they can play either side of the ball based on need in the future...

    Isi Holani from Hilo was the BIF player of the year. Curious to see where he lands. He didn't sign anywhere from what I recall. He's big enough at 6-2 275.

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2796366/tanikeni-isi-holani


  14. Stephen Tsai:

    Kapakahi:
    I "found" a paper that says the walk-on tryouts might be on Feb. 21 now.
    I think it was initially set for Valentine's Day.
    I'll double-check today.


  15. Hatsuo Higa:

    I am Okinawan from Urasoe, but live in Hawaii for 43 years. I was in Brasil for 14 years in Sao Paulo, and during that time I never saw a american football, or no one in Brazil new what that was. But Brazil send some players to UH, as I remember Fabio Ribeiro in basketball, Lima was a outside hitter for women volleyball, and some on the man's volleyball. Chow should recruit some kickers or punter from Brasil because they can kick far and accurate. By the way Brasil is written with a s all over, only in the USA it is Brazil with a z.


  16. kapakahi:

    Thanks for checking ST!


  17. NorthShoreFan:

    Guud Morning Tsaikos....wet but sunny...hope it clears up for the softball tournament..

    Koa Wahine will be a very exciting team this year....some growing pains but got some who are beginning to shine...good to see the young ones compete. Got to find a leader/s


  18. Stephen Tsai:

    It will be interesting to see the pool of walk-on candidates. Only full-time UH students are permitted to try out. I remember in the past there were some unique prospects, but they couldn't be added because they weren't students.


  19. Stephen Tsai:

    Fabio Ribeiro was ahead of his time.
    Because he's 6-10, he was used as a post player. But he was a really good ball-handler and perimeter shooter. If he came along 10 years later, he'd be in the NBA — as a small forward.


  20. jeezy33:

    ST. How many preferred walk on spots did we hand out??? I know last year we got Max Broman... Hoping there are a few solid preferred walk on candidates.


  21. kaimiloa:

    Bem vindo, Hatsuo.


  22. boolakanaka:

    10 and 15: Hawai'i is both still my home and the final destinations for all my thoughts---but, in a previous life I traveled and lived in Brasil frequently. Bar-none, brasilian women are just breathtaking. Very similar to Hawai'i, many mixed and blended races, and all I can say is Que saudade!


  23. gobows:

    15

    Do you know anyone that is willing to walkon and pay their own way to hawaii? No direct flights between south america and hawaii. Have them send the coaches a video. Guess you know the football team has terrible kicking stats.


  24. A-House:

    Brasil student athletes have graced the halls at BYU Hawaii and HPU for decades.

    many excellent VB and BB players.

    Hatsuo-chan - your idea of UH recruiting a "kicker" from Brasil is excellent! use that "scoccer" skills; of course, it could also lead to other student athletes finding their way to Hawaii and, hopefully, UH-Manoa for football, basket ball, and volleyball


  25. al:

    boola...10-4


  26. A-House:

    al-san:

    Kodomono no tameni

    dozo yoroshoku one gai shimasu


  27. A-House:

    speaking of recruits - LOI from Reilly and Patterson received?


  28. Warrior Dave:

    #20 Jeezy,

    I had no idea UH offerred preferred walk on status to players.


  29. A-House:

    walk-=on try outs: whatever happened to the Marine WR who looked so good a year or two ago - speed, soft hands?


  30. Stephen Tsai:

    It actually is better to not be a preferred walk-on.
    If you're an un-recruited walk-on, if you wish to transfer, you can play immediately. That was the case with Charles Clay, Willis Wilson and Terrance Bell.
    I feel badly for a lot of guys who just don't know that.


  31. hmmmm:

    RIP

    http://www.gohuskies.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208063718

    2010: Joined the team as an invited walkon for the start of fall, 2010 camp ... earned the Huskies' Brian Stapp Special Teams Scout Player of the Year at the postseason awards banquet ... didn't see any game action and redshirted his true freshman season.


  32. jeezy33:

    30. Did Chad Owens and Ashley Lelie walk on without even considering JC? I think a kid accepting a preferred walk on could be a motivator to out work others and be confident in earning that scholarship...


  33. jeezy33:

    Apparently a kid from Cal also passed away at practice today.. Ted Agu....


  34. Former UH Athlete:

    Did somebody mention Brazil and volleyball?

    First person that comes to mind is Jaque Carvalho... Google image search... Your welcome.


  35. Hatsuo Higa:

    A few years back I went hiking to diamond head, and this big guy was selling tee shirt by the walkway. I found out he was from Brasil and 6'4" tall. He was making a phone call to his mother in Brasil, and the mother was telling him how crazy he was selling tee shirts in the middle of a volcano.


  36. NYUHTX:

    John Hardy Tuliau was a real jewel with some of the best football instincts I've seen. NFL teams really need to give him a chance.


  37. NYUHTX:

    Hatsuo Higa: Thanks for sharing your ideas about potential players from Brasil.


  38. boolakanaka:

    33_Jeezy, back in my day, all they did, (well what I did) was run a 40, and I think they put me on the bench and see how many times I could yank 225 (I think, I did 11). From Kimo Goeas to Merv Lopes, Jr., Bryan Almadova to Rich Miano....UH has always had a rich history of having more than several starters come from the walk-on ranks, especially true during my era.


  39. Warrior Dave:

    Thanks FUHA.


  40. Warrior Dave:

    #30, but if you're a preferred walk-on, at least you should be eligible to receive some financial assistance based on situation like Tuileta.


  41. boolakanaka:

    34.FUHA...nice, but I call-you and raise you a Luciana Aymar --perhaps the world's (well now retired, I think) greatest field hockey player.


  42. Stephen Tsai:

    Question: Is the United States funding the Winter Olympics?
    Or, to be precise, is NBC funding the Olympics?
    I mean, did networks from other countries put in bids? It sure seems like this is a made-for-American-TV event, like Miss Universe.
    Maybe that explains why teams wear uniforms with English words.


  43. boolakanaka:

    ST, Its a two-part Q & A.

    First, NBC has won the rights to four Olympic Games through 2020 in a deal valued at nearly $4.4 billion.

    In a hot bidding war , Comcast's NBCUniversal beat out Disney's ESPN/ABC and News Corp.'s Fox Sports for the rights to the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, the 2016 Summer Games in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and the 2018 and 2020 Games, whose host cities have not been selected yet.

    The three networks submitted sealed bids to the IOC in Lausanne, Switzerland . Fox went first, ESPN went second and NBC went last. Tuesday's drama was the first U.S. media rights auction since Ebersol secured the rights to the 2010 and 2012 Olympics for NBC with a $2.2 billion deal in 2003.

    Now, that is separate Q to how the olympics are funded, so to answer that specific Q, lets examine the recent London Games:

    2012

    The Olympics in London this year cost more than 11 billion pounds ($17.5 billion) to set up and stage, the majority of it coming from public funds when the government is cutting spending hard in other areas.

    How does the funding of the Games work?

    BUILDING AND PROTECTING THE VENUES

    The British government has earmarked 9.3 billion pounds ($14.61 billion) in public funds to transform a rundown part of east London into the Olympic Park and to provide the security to ensure the Games can be held safely.

    The government says it still has more than 500 million pounds in unspent contingency funding available and is confident the Games will come in under budget. However, the bill is more than double what was pencilled in when London was awarded the Games seven years ago.

    Two-thirds of the funds come from central government, 23 percent from the national lottery and the remaining 10 percent from London local authorities.

    STAGING THE GAMES

    The London Organising Committee (LOCOG) has a separate 2 billion pound budget for staging the Games, most of it raised from private sources.

    LOCOG CEO Paul Deighton says he expects to deliver a balanced budget once the Games are over.

    The organisers secured 41 domestic sponsors, raising around 700 million pounds. They also get to keep revenue from ticket sales -- more than 600 million pounds -- and a smaller sum from selling souvenir merchandise.

    London will get $376 million from international sponsors -- two-thirds of that in the form of goods and services rather than cash. It also receives an additional $675 million from the International Olympic Committee (IOC) for staging the Games.

    THE IOC'S MONEY

    Broadcast revenue for the London Games and the Winter Olympics in Vancouver has risen to $3.9 billion -- a record for a four-year Olympic cycle.

    The IOC has 11 global sponsors who pay $957 million for worldwide rights to market their products on the back of the Games. It distributes more than 90 percent of its income to host nations, national delegations and international sports federations.

    The rising value of TV rights and sponsorship has helped the IOC to amass reserves of $592 million which it says serves as a buffer in case a Games cannot be held at any point.


  44. Former UH Athlete:

    41... WOW, but doesn't count since we were talking about Brasil (Aymar is from Argintinia). Not that I would count that against her.

    To qualify this as a football post, I like that Patterson will compete right away for a starting spot.


  45. Former UH Athlete:

    41... Safe to say South America produces a lot of "talent." I have two friends from Ecuador and both say Columbia has the best "talent".

    --
    JHT's video looks great. Not sure if he'll get drafted, but I think he's got a good chance at making a NFL roster. Just hope he isn't using the same agent as Mike Edwards... who was stupid to sign Mike to the Jets with a roster full of established CBs and took a CB in the 1st round. The Jets had like 8 free agent CBs in camp for 2 available roster spots last year or something like that.


  46. ai-eee-soos:

    wanna take part in this SA poll?

    For the University of Hawaii, is it worth keeping a Division I football team even if it continues to be a financial drain?

    yes

    no

    no is ahead right now.


  47. boolakanaka:

    44-FUHA...blah, blah, blah I actually like the newer QBs in lieu of TUI--I think, more readily to able to take the field. Tui, reminded me of Mike Beazely from Waianae, proven winner , great guy, but not sure if QB is he actual position--although he would be gret for the team, just like Mike was to his time at UH.use to coach at UH.

    Now back to the more relevant discussion, yes, you won that hand as I went to Brasil's southern neighbor, so I am officialy DQed on that round. But, here is my second hand, both pedigree, fierceness and beauty. Brasilian jujitsu and MMA star--Krya Gracie.


  48. boolakanaka:

    45-FUHA...Columbia is smoking, but Brasil has just much more diversity and also very athletic looking people in general.

    I like the football IQ and the lateral movement of the Furata kid---moves like someone already in a college program. Needs to on weight, but strategically, Fresh 10-15, Soph, 5-10, after redshirt year, playing at tight 230 sounds about right.


  49. boolakanaka:

    E kala mai...That is Colombia, not Columbia the university.


  50. Buffoman:

    "Defensive Quality Control Coach". Can someone with knowledge of football in the NFL explain what the duties of this individual are as a member of the coaching staff?

    I have no clue on this.l


  51. boolakanaka:

    50--In short, they do not coach a specific position but have several other responsibilities. Among those duties are breaking down film of upcoming opponents, scouting those opponents, and acting as an assistant to the primary position coach during practices.


  52. Stephen Tsai:

    I think it means GA. Well, a paid GA who doesn't have to go to school.


  53. Andrew:

    46.

    I would hope it never actually comes down to a situation like that. I would not renew my season tickets if they ever dropped down. I honestly would rather do away with the football program than see them drop to FCS. I think the drop would affect other sports as well and they would have to cut a lot of them.


  54. Former UH Athlete:

    48.. Not sure I like the idea of girl that could break my arms and legs with one swift move, but hey, some people dig that sort of thing.

    Wait, what kind of knowledge could Snoop Lion/Dogg possibly coach to youth football players? I know he's a half decent BB player, but football?

    I know Snoop is a Ph.D in pakalolo, though.


  55. Former UH Athlete:

    Football could never survive if UH dropped out of FBS. People may clamor for the program to be dropped, but after it's gone, everybody will miss it. It'll be like the Pro Bowl when they went to Miami for a year. People didn't realize what a loss it was until it was gone. Lucky for Hawaii, for various reasons, the NFL brought it back.

    Just look at UH BB attendance since moving to the Big West, and the Big West is still Division 1. The team is the best in over a decade and attendance has been a disappointment. More people showed up to watch the mediocre Wallace teams from 2004-7. Attendance is just barely better than the pitiful Bob Nash teams.


  56. Hilo Moon:

    Hatsuo -

    Bom Dia and Muito Obrigado for your ideas about kickers de Brasil.


  57. Boolakanaka:

    55-FUHA, you make good points, but I think if UH were to ever drop down a division--they would dominate. The irony is that everyone, as you say, would spend every last energy and resource to climb back to D1. At present, the business model is broken, and I can't see relief in the immediate future. Again, a simple and straight forward solution would be to increase the student fee from 25 to 35, per semester. Which again, is still on the lower end of our counterparts. Resolves chronically being short a couple million and stabilizes the balance sheet, so that we can make large donors more comfortable. Currently,we are asking donors to make-up our own ineptitude and budget shortfalls.


  58. primo123:

    UH has the best BB facility in the Big West.

    Most Big West play in gyms....not arenas.

    We so spoiled with the activities during timeouts and halftime. Most of the Big West schools dont do those things.

    Are our fans too pampered?


  59. HALEAKALA:

    Boolakanaka: Brasil sounds like a good place to visit. I should have done that 40 years ago.


  60. Former UH Athlete:

    58.. unfortunately, in the past month, visiting BW teams have found the spacious arena setting very friendly.

    In my opinion, the entertainment value is outstanding at UHMBB games regardless of outcome.... comfortable seating, good lighting, new video screens, very good cheerleading squad and Rainbow Dancers are solid, although the rising number of male Rainbow Dancers is getting a little weird. Also, the beer is nice and cold.

    If you haven't been to a UHMBB game in a while, they have upgraded the old single shot Bow-zooka to a automatic gatling gun cannon that can reach the upper levels with ease. It's pretty awesome.

    The crowd that actually shows up is loud... just not enough bodies to get the desired intimidating effect.


  61. boolakanaka:

    59---You are correct sir. And 40 years ago would have been a blast! Mrs. Boolakanaka visted me once, in Brasil, after we were married, and upon arrival and couple of days in country, remarked the following: " I am no longer comfortable with you traveling down here, for weeks at a time, by yourself." Let's just say it was not my safety that was of her primary concern.


  62. Haleakala:

    Boolakanaka: i am sure my wife would say the same thing if she had read your prior post.

    But I would just go to admire and take in the scenery, that's all.


  63. bowwar:

    Brasil would be a dream destination for me...

    I wonder if there will be other surprise signings for UH FB in the next few weeks...Still no LB coach, so dunno what to think.


  64. Leahi2:

    #57 Boolakanaka: I disagree with you. If UofH were to downgrade to D2 we wouldn't get the mailnand talent coming to our campus like the way they are nowadays. We would be recruiting lesser talent! So its questionable that we would dominate. After all, why would players come from the Midwest or East Coast to play D2 football? This would just open up the way for the scrubs from Hawaii to stay home. It may help, however, in the way of game attendance because the local players would have their friends and relatives come to attend. But otherwise, Island wide, never happen. Hawaii fans, the ones still attending, are already "spoiled" in that they enjoy seeing our team playing the bigger "name" D1 teams.

    On another point, teams, no matter what level, are going to demand the travel subsidy. Usually these D2 schools are in an out of the way area. They ride a long bus ride to the nearest airport and then fly to the nearest big airport etc. I think our team. in some cases, is already doing that when on the road. It would be more so in the bush leagues. Remember if you will the problems faced by he Hawaii Islanders. The owners of the other teams in the league hated us. They said it was a waste of time and money to come to Hawaii. Think about it!


  65. Inyoface:

    Too bad the 3's didn't fall in last night. I thought that was the difference in the game, momentum-wise.


  66. Bryson:

    Too bad we aren't recruiting Snoop Dogg's son who recently transferred to Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas...


  67. ai-eee-soos:

    ... I wonder if he going pull the same thing ...

    Tulane: According to NOLA.com, former UTEP and Hawaii offensive coordinator

    Aaron Price will be named quarterbacks coach at Tulane.


  68. boolakanaka:

    My posit is based on several assumptions: first, the "scrubs" (and I don't really care or appreciate that term for folks who are students, first and foremost) who you might be referring to dominate much of the small college landscape. One need only look at the rosters of the national championship teams at places like Linfield and Pacific Lutheran and you would find dozens of local kids, who not only have roster spots, but are the cream of the league--the number of small-college all-americans from Hawai'i, prove this clearly.

    Next, the state always produced a finite number of elite players, some go to major programs, but if you were to to a comprehensive survey the vast majority stay home. The reason they stay home is for a variety of reasons: family, preference, specific majors, career aspirations, etc....Thus, I submit, while we still lose some kids to the mainland schools, a "static number" will stay at home, as they always have in the past.

    Now, here is the breakdown of what the division below us looks like from a financial breakout perspective:

    Detailed Breakdown NCAA Division I-AA Nationwide
    Average Number of Athletes 100 98
    Total Number of Athletes 12,273 84,169
    Average Operating Expenses Per Player $4,283 $4,327
    Average Operating Expenses Per Team $419,496 $472,187
    Total Full Time Head Coaches 113 522
    Total Part Time Head Coaches 10 336
    Total Full Time Assistant Coaches 803 2,764
    Total Part Time Assistant Coaches 344 4,436
    Average Total Revenue $2,584,427 $3,783,815
    Average Total Expenses $2,635,479 $2,498,701

    What is really telling in these numbers, is that on average for every program, the revenue exceeds expenses by about 30%.

    Average Total Revenue: The more money NCAA Division I-AA colleges can earn off their men's football programs the more likely they are to grow them. When men's football programs are more successful and popular NCAA Division I-AA colleges will invest more in their existing programs and other NCAA Division I-AA colleges will create new football teams of their own. More NCAA Division I-AA football teams means more athletic scholarship opportunities at this type of school.

    Average Total Expenses: Is there a growing interest in supporting and growing men's football teams at NCAA Division I-AA schools? Are NCAA Division I-AA colleges aggressively recruiting men's football players? The total expenses stat includes operating and recruiting expenses. This will give you a good idea of how much NCAA Division I-AA colleges all around the country are investing in men's football programs, thus whether or not football scholarship opportunities are likely to grow, keep pace or weaken.

    Finally, just as kids from all over the country have loved playing in the pacific, they would continue to do do, even at 1 AA. But, because we are not shooting for the very best athletes, Hawaii as a location, opens the market up for a greater number of potential recruits. Think of it this way, if you were looking for buyers of 5 series BMWs, you have a limited and finite market, however if you say you are looking for buyers of Nissan Altimas, that market know has exponentially grown.

    I am not saying lets do it, I am saying, that Hawaii, would very competitive if it came down to it, as the internal talent to the state, but also the financial schematic work to our benefit, as my assumption is that of the 65 or so, allowed scholarships in the lower division, more would go to local players. This is obviously not written in stone, but just a fun subject to argue.


  69. boolakanaka:

    64...Leahi--also, I can't identify all the attendance from the 70s definitively, but what I did find, indicates even when they were still playing folks Praire View, UC Davis, and the like, they were still pulling in 25000+, so it can't be as bad as it is now, where I have gone to games that were under 20000.


  70. kris:

    Why can't conference travel subsidies go both ways?
    When you come here you get a subsidy.

    But when we go there, you pay us a subsidy?

    This way, we get all our travel paid.
    Each school in our division pays once every 2 years, for the other division, it would be once every.... 4 years?

    Or does this just make too much sense?


  71. HALEAKALA:

    kris: That would be very nice however the other schools in the conferences would have to agree. They won't agree with that. It cost them extra to travel to Hawaii and they won't pay Hawaii a subsidy. If UH took that stance, then they would have to leave the conferences and play as an independent. This was discussed in the old WAC, the new WAC, the Mountain West, and the Big West conferences.


  72. ai-eee-soos:

    ... 2015 recruiting ...

    Texas Tech makes offer to Ulu-Perry
    by Paul Honda on February 7, 2014

    Signing day for football seniors has passed, but there’s no break for recruiters and athletes in the class of 2015.

    Texas Tech made that clear on Tuesday with a scholarship offer to Saint Louis All-State left tackle Fred Ulu-Perry. Texas Tech fan site 247Sports.com posted the news.

    The junior is one of the more intriguing athletes in the state, a 6-foot-2, 310-pound athlete with raw strength and nimble feet. He shows that unique agility on the basketball court for the Crusaders. On the football field, he was selected by coaches and media to the Star-Advertiser All-State first team.

    He also has offers from Hawaii and Washington State.


  73. RB:

    Wow another QB to transfer. It seems like the norm now days.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10418525/nc-state-wolfpack-qb-pete-thomas-transfer-final-season


  74. ai-eee-soos:

    ... Jeff Ulbrich: It's official now - named DC at UCLA ...

    UCLA: The school has announced that linebackers coach / special teams coordinator

    Jeff Ulbrich has been promoted to defensive coordinator.

    In addition, offensive line coach / run game coordinator Adrian Klemm has added the title of associate head coach.

    (and a unique combination) - Defensive backs coach / passing game coordinator

    Demetrice Martin has added the title of assistant head coach.


  75. BigWave96744:

    Besides Max Broman, last years True Frosh Walkons were Tyler Liana, Brodie Nakama

    Other New Walkons were:
    Sophs DT Haani Tulimaiau and QB Adonis Phillips

    Juniors: DT Nick Childs, S Keahi Hogan, LB Deonson Leatimua, DE Falaniko "Niko" Uti, and Jr RB Jack "Willis" Wilson III

    Seniors: S Joshua Gist, WR Daniel "Masi" Masifilo, LB Kawehi Sablan


  76. tommui:

    I was under the impression that the football team (in theory) generates the revenue that supports out non-revenue sports - the women's sports with the exception of women's volleyball.

    If the football team goes to Division II and it apparently is not going to generate the $$, what happens to the Title IX teams?


  77. jm2375:

    boola - #68 - when you posted this before, I asked you to please label the columns. Can you do so now? I don't particularly understand what the figures are.


  78. Warrior Dave:

    #76 Tommui,

    Thank you Tom for your post. I was also under the impression that the football IS PROFITABLE!! Revenue is counted on to finance other non-revenue sports like Wahine softball and all water sports. It also subsidizes revenue sports like Wahine basketball and men's volleyball.

    Everyone needs to be aware of this so they stop saying stupid stuff like the football team is losing money. They just not making enough to find everything. Therefore the athletic department shortfall of $2MM this year.


  79. Derek:

    Chris Petersen is already making a statement as to who is in charge at UW. Projected starting QB Cyler Miles and expected starting WR Stringfellow were both suspended from the team. Didn't say for how long, but I would expect through spring practice. Didn't also say for what kinds of transgressions.


  80. Leahi2:

    #68 and #69, Boolakanaka: I can tell from reading your posts that you are very well educated and a very fine gentleman. But now for the other stuff. Until the year 1976 when the new Aloha Stadium opened, the Rainbows played in the old Honolulu Stadium where the capacity was only about 22,000 fans. Now that figure was attained by sell out crowds, usually for good High School football games. Now back track again, from about the year 1967 to about 1975, Hawaii Rainbows was still playing "small college" football and with the exception that every year one or two big schools on the schedule but that was the extent of it. During that period, emotionally, we the fans were hopeful to seeing better caliber football. We were climbing the ladder, ever grateful for some kind of national recognition! Finally, in 1977 we were admitted to the WAC and that was truly big time football. In that first year in the WAC we were drawing something like 43,000 per home game! We were elated and in a celebratory mood the whole season, We had a new coach in Dick Tomey who just turned our program around. Although a loosing first year (something like 5-6) there were a couple of other games we could have won with just a little bit of luck here and there! SO THEN WE WERE NO LONGER PATSIES AND NO LONGER IN THE BOTOM TEN! WE HAD AN"UPSWING MENTALITY! (Note here also that there were no regularly scheduled live telecasts)

    Contrast that to today when we are demanding better football as we have known them and likewise for winning football games. We are not climbing the ladder as before, rather we are in the pits. We want to be going uphill again. All the fire in that former mood can be rekindled if we start playing better and smarter football. So now with all due respects to you, I say cast off all the thoughts of our would be superiority in D2 football. We can't accept that.......but raise the athletic fees? I say yes to that; $50 is still too low. Go Rainbows!.


  81. AllG:

    Will Gregory - was reading the article that someone posted yesterday, was sad to here that he really wanted to stay at Hawaii and went as far as hiring a lawyer to see if he could. He still wants to come back to this day and I think we should give him a second chance! He was one of the most talented RBs we have had in a while and we need kids that want to be here. They were saying his grades were good but just broke a team rule. Funny that guys who had DUIs weren't kicked off the team like Gregory?


  82. BigWave96744:

    Before even considering dropping football to D2, I would like to see UH dropping:

    Mens Golf, Tennis, Swimming/Diving and Volleyball

    Womens Golf, Tennis/Swimming/Diving, Sailing, Track & Field, Cross Country, and Water Polo

    Coed Sailing

    All those sports could be moved to Rockne Freitas's West Oahu Pueo

    All the monies saved from coaches salaries, equipment, scholarships, travel, etc should go directly to the football program to make them more competitive.... JMHO!!!!


  83. BigWave96744:

    Oops to add... I don't know what is the minimum sports to keep or scholarships to give out so go with the minimum. Note: Boise St doesn't have a Mens Baseball or Volleyball


  84. HALEAKALA:

    AIIG: Yes, we don't know what Gregory did so I for one can't say that he should come back without a review of his case.


  85. ai-eee-soos:

    # 81. AllG:

    Other posters have stated that he violated the Student Conduct Code,

    NOT a team violation.

    It's up to the student council, or whatever, to allow reinstatement.

    The football team/coaches have NO say so in this matter.

    In fact, the blog host has commented on this - you can search the archives.


  86. gobows:

    70

    you don't get it. the bottom line is hawaii must get the shaft. period. everything else doesn't matter. hawaii must get the shaft. who's to blame…go back and watch the breaking news conference and see who is front and center. jim donovan had nothing to do with it.


  87. NotNasti:

    BigWave: Even if we were to drop all men's sports except football, under Title IX, we would still have to award the equivalent amount of scholarships to women's sports. With 85 scholarships to give out, we may not be able to drop many women's sports.


  88. ai-eee-soos:

    # 81. AllG:

    Let me add one little clarification.

    Everyone - excuse the terminology; I don't know what the proper language is:

    AIIG - he was kicked out of school; based on what other posters said.

    The football coaches have NO say so, in this matter.

    (I apologize for the terminology.)


  89. boolakanaka:

    The university budgeted $8,849,258 for the University Warrior football team for the 2013-14 school year, but I do not know its total revenue as applied exclusively for football. Does anyone have that figure?

    This is the Hawaii total revenue versus actual expenses., $37,879,740, versus $40,319,775. So, let see what actual revenue is for football, and lets get to the bottom of this question?


  90. cocobean:

    #86. If you go back everyone was giddy just to get into the MWC. The justification was paying the travel "ransom" was better than staying on the sinking ship known as the WAC. Very few people at that time disagreed with that decision.


  91. wafan:

    Good evening!


  92. wafan:

    #79 . . . Three U-Dub football players (two of whom, I think, were starters - one of them the starting QB) attacked and injured a Seahawk fan last Sunday night following the Super Bowl.

    Lots of witnesses present.

    Glad Peterson is taking control of the program.


  93. Hatsuo Higa:

    When I was attending UH I was also working at UH facilities Management. One semester I had 2 football student Players working for me, and they were Dino Babers and Duane Coleman.


  94. boolakanaka:

    Duane C., had very nice hands, (from oceanside) he and Joe Nobles made for some very reliable receivers.


  95. Fei Jai:

    The norm chow era at UH: from powerhouse to outhouse.

    Whoever is the next coach will have no where to go but up.


  96. Tired:

    Wow Fei Jai such an interesting comment. So new and novel. Like a breath of spring air. Keep up the good work. Keep that deep sense of insight keen. Thanks for sharing your extraordinary wisdom.


  97. al:

    powerhouse?


  98. Jm2375:

    Bigwave - a minimum # of teams are needed to compete at the D1 level. IIRC, UH is close to the minimum. I'm not sure sailing counts as a NCAA sport, but it's one of the most successful sports at UH in terms of winning. Coach Johnson is the second longest tenured coach at UH. Boise may not have mvb or baseball but they have other sports that somehow were counted towards Commissioner's Cup points in the WAC (rodeo, gymnastics). I think they may also have men's track and soccer.


  99. Truman:

    Boolakanaka, how much is it to run athletics at any Ivy League school? UH is not at that level but that may be the way to go as far as athletics. I am assuming that their costs in athletics is lower than ours (I could be wrong). We can put further emphasis on education. This may please some academics but I would not be happy if this is the course of action that needs to be done but we may not have a choice.


  100. wafan:

    100!


  101. A-House:

    Super bowl 48:

    interesting new theory why Denver lost - it's all Joe Namath's fault for tossing the coin BEFORE the ref could determine who selected heads or tails

    remember? ref caught the coin in mid-air, then asked Seattle their choice, and they selected heads!

    now, if that situation did not occur and the coin came up heads, Denver would deferred, which is what Seattle did, and Denver would kick off and get the ball first in the 2nd half

    the "safety" would not have occurred nor the kick-off return for a TD by Seattle.

    any comments?????


  102. A-House:

    it's totally none of my business, but what did he do that warranted being "kicked-out-of-school by the school?

    does he deserve another chance? maybe, and it will depend on the infraction and decision from the Chancellor's office.


  103. A-House:

    can any one confirm the receipt of the signed LOIs from Reilly and Patterson or is someone playing a cruel joke on us fans?

    they were supposed to sign them yesterday - per ST


  104. Leahi2:

    Regarding this thing about Title IV. I never had a good and plain explanation about this but, correct me if I'm wrong here because I think that basically we have to provide an equal number of scholarships for men and women. That said we have about 85 men on football scholarships. Then again how many more on basketball and baseball, and vollyball? Now on the other side we love Wahine volleyball, Wahine basketball, Wahine softball but scholarships there don't even come out to 85. These Whine sports are sacred to us. If AD Jay tries to cut out these Wahine sports he would see an uprising in the community.........and maybe a few ripe tomatoes from me, via air express. Okay, so much for the jokes and I hope you know I'm joking. Seriously Wahine Vollyball not only pays for itself but is actually an income producer. Their basketball and softball are coming along quite nicely. There is growing interest in Wahine Soccer! So what and where do we cut? This is like a big family with modest means. Its heartbreaking for a parent to have give up a child for adoption.


  105. A-House:

    wafan:

    we see that Calli is getting all the "bad" weather you guys normally receive, but vastly insufficiently to break their drought

    hoping that all the snow fall east of the Sierra Madre mountains will eventually arrive at Lake Mead - dang, every time I look more white showing - growing concern that fresh water may cost more than silver if the area continues the drought-like conditions.


  106. wafan:

    A-House . . .

    Very dry but super cold. Most of the week we never got above 30. Good thing it did not "rain" or it would have been ug-a-lee.


  107. Leahi2:

    Here again I say if push comes to shove lets first hike the price of PPV! The way it is now for a full subscription at $420 at six games comes out to $70 per home game. As I said before, I used to see a home in my neighborhood where six young couples gather with their host in the patio to watch the game on TV. They bring their own beer and whoop it up. Surely they must [pay the host but its much cheaper that way. Some of the men get intoxicated but then they don't have to abide by the Stadium rules of behavior.

    Secondly, don't show the game on TV the very next morning. Show it on the following Wednesday morning. If all these stay at home fans want to have something to talk about at the Monday morning water cooler, they better attend the games.

    Thirdly, I say increase the student athletic fees. $50 is too little.

    Finally, how about leaving one section in the upper deck for the knot hole gang. Save it for the housing kids. One game for palolo another for kuhio park another for mayor wright etc. That's charity and we need them to make some noise! jGo Rainbow Warriors!


  108. leahi2:

    Back to #13 Jeezy. Sometimes a good prospect is not doing well academically. Its a waste of our coaching time and efforts to get these guys. I don't know anything about the guy from Hilo you mentioned but then the coaches got to see to it that these guys graduate. You know there's a scholarship penalty for having too many guys failing to do so. You also remember that fella from Kealakehe who was offered a scholarship last year but is now at a JC? Auwe! No everybody smart like you!


  109. whitey:

    col a house, signed, sealed, and faxed


  110. d1shima:

    Great Evening All!

    Room at the Inn?


  111. HiloBilly:

    Interesting...Shaun Kagawa leaves Army Prep, signs w/ JJ at SMU.


  112. Shoko:

    Sometimes its difficult to adjust to military life.

    Dano Graves, David Grave's brother, transferred out of the Air Force academy to Cal Poly (FCS school).

    Speaking of CP, hope Warriors MBB figured out a game plan for tonights game.


  113. Shoko:

    Poor APR seems to happen more in basketball than it does football due to a high transfer rate. Chow doesn't appear to have APR issues so far during his tenure.


  114. Shoko:

    According to a government-run website that reports finances (2012-2013), there were 244 men student athletes and 304 women student athletes at UH. However, not all of the participants were on scholarship. But, I would guess that there are probably more female athletes on scholarship than there are men athletes based on that ratio.

    You can do a search and find the financial data using this link.

    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetails.aspx?


  115. wafan:

    Good Saturday morning!


  116. Fei Jai:

    To Tired: I'm tired of listening to people talking about how they like to bob for apples in the toilet, and they like it.


  117. Tired:

    116....Fei Jai.....you are truly a poet.....I lose my breath!


  118. Shoko:

    I think I better correct my last comment. Don't want to mislead anyone.

    There are 244 male student athletes compared to 221 female student athletes that receive athletically related financial aid at UH.

    Title IX requires that female and male student-athletes receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation. For instance, if females make up 50 percent of the student-athlete population, they should receive close to 50 percent of the athletic related financial aid.

    In UH's case, female student athletes make up 47 percent of the student-athlete population and receive 46 percent of the athletic related financial aid according to the financial report. If there was a bigger disparity, it would probably warrant a Title IX complaint being filed against the university.


  119. 702WarriorFan:

    A-house yr 105, precip, snow pack needed in the Rockies for Lake Mead. Third straw construction hopefully will be completed before water falls below the second straw intake in the lake. Otherwise, visitors cost at casinos will rise along with locals.

    wafan- good morning and keep warm.
    Anytime you can send snow over to Rockies, we'd appreciate it!

    Appears Sen. Kim not in favor of raising student fee to bail out athletics.
    Will regent have the bxlls to act?


  120. whitey:

    702warriorfan, good morning. just got home from your country, heavier in body weight, and lighter in the pocket


  121. 702WarriorFan:

    Morning whitey, sorry to hear about heavy body wt but light pocket.
    But, hope you had a very enjoyable stay......next time we need to have a drink together.


  122. NotNasti:

    119. 702WarriorFan:

    It's the pot calling the kettle black. So according to Donna Grim, UH would be balancing its athletic budget on the backs of its students. Where was she when the state instituted furloughs, reduction in force (layoffs), hiring freezes and tax hikes to balance its budget? I didn't hear a single peep from her. She was too busy grilling UH on the "Wonder Blunder" to worry about the $300 million deficit.