Studio rental

May 30th, 2014
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In these search-the-couch-for-loose-change times, the Rainbow Warriors will reside in the school's dance studios for the 19 days of training camp this August.

By staying in the studios, the Warriors will save up to $41,300 in housing costs.

It will cost $10,000 to rent 110 cots for the studios, which are located on the second floor of the athletic complex. Bathrooms and showers are available in the team's locker room on the ground floor.

In comparison, it would have cost $51,300 for the players to stay in the dormitories based on the double-occupancy rate of $50 per night. The daily dorm fee for each player would  have been $20 for the room and $5 for mandatory laundry/cleaning service. The Warriors' request to do their own laundry — and save on the expense — was denied.

In 2012, UH split training-camp housing between the dormitories and Joint Base Pearl Harbor/Hickam. Last year, camp was split between the dance studios and the base.

90 Responses to “Studio rental”

  1. duffer:

    Good Morning TSAIKOS!


  2. mano1:

    Good Morning Folks


  3. maddog50:

    Looking forward to FB season.....not that it matters, but it was both funny and strange way back when, the FB team spent 3 weeks in the barracks at Pearl Harbor....you had to wear shirts with sleeves and socks with sandles per the rules. We then moved to the deck below the pool and slept outside using the locker room for bathroom and shower. Did not bother us at all but sleep was a premium when you had that many guys in that open space. A few of us share stories about some of those "characters" that disappeared in the middle of the night never to be heard of again----Go Warriors!!!!


  4. Old School Dave:

    Thank you, UH Housing Office for your support!!


  5. Pu'uwai:

    Aloha kakahiaka.

    What's with the dorms? Can't do your own laundry? No kokua from your own school?

    Who ever controls this, needs to get their head(s) out of their butts and... at the very least... provide regular beds for the team during training camp. How idiotic is this picture?

    This is supposed to be a Division I school with a Division III mentality. Yes, I know it happens most years that they have to sleep on cots during training camp, but when will it improve or end???

    IMUA RAINBOW WARRIORS!!!


  6. whitey:

    good morning duffer, maddog, puuwai, old school dave, mano, st, and tsaikos.


  7. Buffoman:

    I can see Ben Jay pushing that very large rock up a steep hill. I wonder how long he will continue to do this when it appears that the "hill" seems to go on forever.

    Someone mentioned winning cures all, but it was also shown that even in the winning years there still loomed the deficit, the use of the dance studio to save dollars, poor facilities and on and on. The system here is probably more broken that others (with travel subsidies, no stadium revenue, no parking revenue for on campus sporting events, etc.) yet I do not believe that UH is alone.

    A deficit is a deficit, but it seems that a $2M dollar deficit is a small one, given the obstacles to success.


  8. Old Diver:

    While people complain about Aloha Stadium charging the athletic department for the maintenance cost associated with using the stadium because it isn't right for one state agency to charge another, no one mentions UH itself is charging the football team for use of the dance facilities. It would also charge the athletic department for use of the dorms. UH also charges the athletic department for athletic scholarships. These costs dwarf the cost for using Aloha Stadium. Forgive these charges and the athletic department is in the black.


  9. boolakanaka:

    Aloha all!

    At this point, I cannot say whether I am a Ben J., fan or foe? It is too early one, and I personally, don't have enough information before me to make such a decision. That said, the university and that matter, the state, have placed before him an equally unenviable and untenable position.

    One need only look at the current fiscal shape of sports across the nation to see that we is occuring here is not some form of mismangement (although we can certainly do bette) or malfeasance, but rather almost the norm for any D1 program. Consider this: Stanford University which won the Learfield Sports Directors' Cup, which goes to the country's top performing athletic department, over 16 times in recent history, has struggled to maintian financial balance with its own program.

    The Cardinal have won at least one national championship for 33 consecutive years. Stanford sponsors 35 NCAA-competing varsity teams -- 19 for women, 15 for men and one coed squad -- and all of them do pretty well on the national stage.

    But even at Stanford -- times are downright difficult in the current economic recession. Just several years ago, Stanford eliminated 21 staff positions in its athletic department. Across the country, Stanford isn't alone in its financial difficulties. Many athletic departments are struggling to balance their financial books after receiving less funding from state legislatures and fewer donations from alumni and boosters.

    Stanford's economic woes are directly tied to the loss in value of its endowments, which are used to cover scholarship funding and other operating costs. In 2008, the Cardinal's athletic endowment was worth about $520 million, or 3 times the size of entire UH endowmenet!!!? But the endowment lost about 20 to 30 percent of its value when the financial markets went south, dropping its current value to about $410 million. The value of the school's general endowment fell from $17.2 billion in 2008 to about $12 billion that fiscal year.

    As a result, Bowlsby will have to cut $3.1 million from the athletic department's budget next year and $4.5 million in 2011.

    This is similar to many schools across the country have already been forced to cut sports teams. Among them:

    • Pac-10 school Washington shut down its men's and women's swimming teams in an attempt to save $1.2 million, which is about half of what the athletic department needs to cut from its budget.

    • The Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which mostly competes in sports at the NCAA Division III level, cut eight of its sports teams (Alpine skiing, golf, wrestling, competitive pistol, men's and women's ice hockey, and men's and women's gymnastics) to save $1.5 million on its athletic budget. MIT students even kidnapped the school's mascot, Tim the Beaver, in protest of the cuts.

    • Big East member Cincinnati plans to eliminate scholarship funding for three of its men's sports (track, cross country and swimming) over the next four years. The plan will save the school about $400,000 annually.

    Elsewhere, Indiana State dropped its men's and women's tennis teams; Maine cut its men's soccer and women's volleyball teams; and Vermont dropped its baseball and softball programs. All told, nearly 30 schools that compete at some NCAA level have been forced to drop at least one sports program.

    Across the country, athletic departments are searching for ways to save money. Colorado State cut more than $160,000 from its budget, most of which came from trimming marketing and facilities costs. UNLV eliminated insurance for its walk-on players and asked coaches (with the exception of the football team) to conduct more daytime practices to save on lighting costs. Florida International's athletic department won't fund the cheerleading squad, and it cut marching band and will invite high school bands to play at its home football games. Some schools in Texas stopped providing complimentary soft drinks to their employees and are exploring ways to save on utility costs.

    Many schools, including Michigan, Ohio State and Wisconsin, have stopped publishing media guides and recruiting brochures and are instead producing DVDs, which will save on printing and shipping costs. Boise State even eliminated land-line phones from some of its offices and asked coaches to use only cell phones.

    A few coaches, including those at Arizona, Arizona State, Clemson and Wisconsin, are taking unpaid furloughs.

    Some conferences, including Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Southern Conference and the WAC, have decreased the number of teams competing in their postseason tournaments. Some leagues have also eliminated gifts (duffel bags, shirts) for student-athletes and will no longer hold preseason media days.

    In short, nearly everyone in college sports is looking for any way to cut costs and raise additional money. From my perspective, there are hard decisions, but the solutions are fairly straight-forward and easy. One; raise the student fee, ours is way below the norm, and one could elminate almost half the debt by having a fee close to $200. Two, there needs to be a permanent legislative appropriation from the state, cost indexed to meet the need of the UHAD, when the football program cannot produce the sufficent revenue for the other programs in the department. The rationale for this is very direct--it's our flagship university; we have a limited population in which to draw both fanbase and tax revenue, and our geographic isolation, dicates higher travel and logistical outlays.

    These are not necessarily situations for billionaires and large donors to resolve, rather it is the prime responsibilty of both the greater university (upper campus) and the leadership of the state--period.

    As always, my lousy 2 cents...


  10. Old Diver:

    The legislature is forbid by law to earmark funds to the athletic department. Voters took this power away from the legislature when it gave UH autonomy. Earmarks were seen as political. The legislature is only allowed to give UH a bulk amount ($350 to $400 million a year) with the UH administration dividing up the funds. If one has a complaint that the athletic department is not receiving it's fair share your complaints should be directed towards the BOR.


  11. boolakanaka:

    10--Old Diver...you are indeed correct, but what I know about any legislative process, coupled with appropriations, is that it is not limited by creativity, e.g. there is a way to meet the need.


  12. tommui:

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    Thank you Boolakanaka for your #9. Misery loves company!


  13. hatakeman:

    Seems like poor decision. Dance studio is horrible. Players should be in dorms for fall camp. Penny wise; pound foolish.


  14. hatakeman:

    9. Boolakanaka. I thought an excellent write-up. Fresh view. Wish the media takes the time to read your comment.


  15. A-House:

    boola:

    take your #9 and send it to the Star-Advertiser for the "editorial" section.

    let's light the "fire" and see what happens - as always, excellent recommendation(s) should also be sent to the Star-Advertiser for the editorial section


  16. Old Diver:

    11. I'm with you boola, but standing in the way of such creative thinking will be the UH administration screaming autonomy.


  17. boolakanaka:

    What's said in tsaikoland, stays in tsaikoland....lol.


  18. boolakanaka:

    Oh, and in regard to the exodus b-ball assistants, I have only one thing to say..."paging Dan Hale, paging Dan Hale...??!" Dan and Gib, buds and ex-Punahou players....


  19. Shoko:

    Think the easiest way is to raise the athletic fee instead of waiting for the State and the UH to mutually agree to provide greater financial support for athletics. Immediate injection of revenue is needed to help the athletic department keep its head above water. If not, athletics will continue to run in the red and the deficit will reach levels to the point prior to it being forgiven last year. I really don't see any other option at this point.


  20. Shoko:

    Pretty interesting live chat with Coach Pete via the Seattle Times. Will be interesting if he continues to interact with the fan base when the enthusiasm dies down.

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfootball/2014/05/27/live-chat-with-uw-coach-chris-petersen-at-3-p-m-thursday/


  21. papajoe2:

    LPGA news: Michele Wie tied for 3rd finishing 1st round at 67, 1 stroke off leaders.


  22. papajoe2:

    Good morning everybody!


  23. al:

    crazy...its like grandma charging her grandkids for a sleepover.


  24. al:

    papajoe2...maybe thats the start she needs.


  25. NorthShoreFan:

    Guud Morning Tsaikos...bootiful day.

    can't do own laundry?...must be talking about the bedding...personal laundry must be ok.

    interesting with the record level stock market, endowment funding is being withdrawn from colleges...I guess they all want to buy expensive real estate and toys...


  26. boolakanaka:

    20--Shoko...on non-warrior sports news, word has it, that the Clippers are buying umbrellas, and planning a move to that pretty city off of Elliott Bay. The original dreamteam of Microsoft folks basically have a monopoly of all things professional sports in Seattle.


  27. al:

    belated...

    ALOHA!
    uncle sol kaukukukui thanks for the memories.
    rest in peace as you now share the joy above.


  28. al:

    congratulations olena!

    on your decision to become your own boss.


  29. innocent observer:

    how come we have to pay for seeing the football team on tv; it should be for free.


  30. dabowman:

    #29 Why should it be for free?


  31. jeezy33:

    30. Why are you trolling?


  32. jm2375:

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    IIRC, the legislation that gave UH autonomy also specified a MINIMUM amount of State funding be appropriated to UH each year. To my knowledge, UH has never received that amount. It is time to hold the Legislature's feet to the fire.

    BTW, students at Georgetown pay a $388 fee just to use the student fitness facility. They still have to pay for their tickets to basketball, football (FCS), and other sports.


  33. jeezy33:

    Just a heads up... This impostor in #30 is posing as me in numerous blogs and also going into Reardons blog as "Jeezy" trying to make me look stupid. I'm sure its a matter of time before he gets caught, exposed, and blocked from all the blogs...

    Hopefully in the near future, we need to register for screen names or sign in through facebook like most other blogs work throughout the country. Need to weed out these trolls and stalkers without lives.


  34. tommui:

    #33 jeezy33

    Been saying that for years - (registering screen names).


  35. Old School Dave:

    UH needs another telethon to raise money for dorm rooms and proper accomodations during training camp.


  36. NotNasti:

    $10,000 to rent 100 cots? Does it make sense to pay more to rent cots than to purchase them? They could buy extra large army style cots on Amazon for $50.00, or $5000.00. Costco has them for sale for $60.00.


  37. Stephen Tsai:

    Not sure why there's a daily fee to change sheets. Point is, the dorms would be empty. Even some money is better than no money, right?


  38. Stephen Tsai:

    I'm pretty sure Washington isn't housed in dance studios.


  39. Stephen Tsai:

    As it's been stated many times here, UH should build an on-campus hotel and let TIM students run it.


  40. al:

    27...oops.

    sorry uncle sol for mis-typing your surname.
    Kaulukukui


  41. al:

    i agree tommui.
    "fake" posters should have their IP's blocked.


  42. Old School Dave:

    So the UH Housing had an opp to earn some $40K during the summer months when the dorms are mostly empty, but rejected it?

    An on-campus hotel can also house visiting parents for graduation and travel to see their kids. Have KCC culinary arts students work the dining facility (for credit). Stayed in one of those at UBC in Vancouver, Canada - nothing fancy, but clean, secure and safe environment.


  43. tommui:

    JM2375 #32

    Morning!

    Can you give me the chapter and verse on "the legislation that gave UH autonomy also specified a MINIMUM amount of State funding be appropriated to UH each year." Do you know the specific amount for the State funding?

    Thanks!


  44. gobows:

    My guess, ben jay has no fans in hawaii. Ive been told he is spineless.


  45. Old School Dave:

    At least in the old days, the football team had Hale Anuenue dorm, right off campus. Larry Price was the live-in supervisor.

    http://archives.midweek.com/content/columns/therightprice_article/uh_dorms_need_rules_not_cops/


  46. Andrew:

    42.

    UH barely has enough money to provide enough housing and upkeep the existing ones, so I don't think an on campus hotel for visitors should be on their list.


  47. gobows:

    19

    Is the UH in the red? Of course not.

    2 mil is only a portion of the profits the UH makes off the athletic department.

    Upper campus should pay off any deficit every year...or give the athletic department all the revenue they generate.


  48. Old School Dave:

    46: That is true. I have to say that they've done a good job in renovating a number of the existing dorms, from what I've seen and heard (friend's daughter who lived there).


  49. cocobean:

    Just curious. Which generates more revenue for the Stadium Authority - the rent UH pays or the revenues generated by parking, vendor fees, signage and score board advertising.


  50. Ipu Man:

    Great comments today.


  51. Andrew:

    48.

    Yeah I've experienced them as well. The freshman towers and the apartment buildings were not very clean as many people are aware. Frear Hall was a great addition and they've renovated a couple others but it's still difficult to even get a room on campus.


  52. rage777:

    Couldn't UH Athletics just bought those cots already and had saved a lot of money over the years? How long have they been staying in the studio and renting cots? Just buy them and save the money from renting them for the next 10 years.


  53. jm2375:

    Counselor Mui - that was a long time ago back when I was employed at UH, which means it was in the 20th century. I don't remember the specifics.


  54. Rodney:

    #44 Yep and there is the problem!


  55. Andrew:

    Don't remember who suggested it but I thought it was a good idea to expand and replicate the fundraising event that the baseball team does in the SSC before their season starts. The athletic department could make it a huge even by TC Ching field and feature local chefs and even the KCC culinary students as well. Perhaps doubling that event with the spring football event since they already have that Murphy's event in the Fall.


  56. nutmegger:

    Fund raisers should be on the lawn in front of the Hawaii State Capitol building. Booths for each sport. Goals posted on each booth on how much is needed to be raised to cover the cost of that sport. Team up with a restaurant or business to sponsor the cost of the booth and fundraising product - malasadas, bumperstickers (I support UH Swimming, etc.). Knock on state senator's and house member's doors for support. List on booth which politicians contributed and how much...


  57. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Good Morning Gangeez! ;)

    Thanks for your in depth post boolakanaka! It helps provide context for UH's own situation.

    However, the crap about the dorm stuff - why do we have regents or President if they can't provide such a simple solution to such a profoundly troubling situation? Sleeping in the dorms is how we thank our Warriors? Unbelievable.


  58. Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Excellent posts here today... errybody gets lively when the blog host decides to take a week off! :lol:

    Post of the day:

    "al:
    May 30th, 2014 at 7:49 am

    crazy...its like grandma charging her grandkids for a sleepover."

    Very well said, al-san!


  59. Andrew:

    56.

    UH could use that idea of teaming up a restaurant with a sport and apply it to gamedays. Granted for football it would have to wait until UH has control of a stadium, but they could assign certain games to certain restaurants and that restaurant could work a booth at the game and sell their food. UH gets a portion of the profits, so does the restuarant and especially for restaurants trying to get their name out, it's easy exposure to thousands of people.


  60. Stephen Tsai:

    Remember the tag line for the "Talented Mr. Ripley"?
    It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody.
    That's almost as good as the "Revenge of the Nerds" tagline: The odd get even.


  61. SteveM:

    Good morning everyone!

    Wouldn't UH giving free or reduced dorm rooms to athletes be some sort of NCAA violation, since it wouldn't be offered to all students?

    Good point about the cots though...maybe UH should buy their own, but the maintenance and storage expenses of the cots at a government institution would probably exceed one time rental costs. I wonder if the Red Cross can help. Is the SSC and dance studios an emergency shelter?


  62. st. anthony trojan:

    nutmegger # 56.....what...you are trying to make legislators responsible to the voters of
    this state....how dare you....he he he

    To ask athletics to give a first-rate performance in competition, on the field of their respective sport with a "cot" mentality....is ridiculous and insulting. There is no rhyme or reason or logic to decisions
    being made at UHAD. A 6th grade class, given this problem. would come up with a better solution n decision....

    Seems the 'dorm' is playing god....n running the school...but as usual, on here, no names given on who made that decision...should be no excuses...no accountability....

    No one 'fights' for the well being of these students athletics in all sports...not a peep from the head coach...the AD... no one...then you ask them to leave it all out there on the field...
    kinda sad really....no advocacy voice from ne one connected 'officially' to UHAD.

    Me not believe #44, #54...even if he lost his first 'bout' to a fan....I believe he is being
    managed...by whom ever 'signs his paycheck'....must be very difficult to work under those conditions...can only imagine and assume the difficulties for coaches...they have my respect...

    Where is Rich Miano when we need him....criticize the politicians n administration...not other coaches...

    IMUA...NO COTS


  63. NotNasti:

    SteveM: The cots fold into a neat little bundle. 100 cots could fit in a spare office. Easily.


  64. kawika49:

    They should buy the cots and rent them to the various teams at a reduced rate...It should be amortized over 5 years.


  65. nutmegger:

    There are 51 state representatives, 25 state senators, 15 BOR and 9 members of the Stadium Authority - total of 100. The 100 cots could be stored in each's office.


  66. A-House:

    Old School Dave:

    yep, and I believe it led to his divorce because he had to spend so much time keeping the players in line - some said he actually moved in to settle the "troops"

    and, I heard players trashed the building


  67. A-House:

    there are many who believe the UH athletes are "good neighbors", but they have their college fun - sometimes goo, sometimes bad.

    I remember my last summer working for UH maintenance and we were selected to clean the Mid-Pac dorms that were used to house summer school students from the mainland - what a bunch of rats - they hung up their used underwear, bras with messages on where to reach them later, soiled sanitary napkins, wrote messages on the mirrors and walls with lip stick, used condoms with notes about the male for each one used, etc.

    dirty and filthy -- believe Mid-Pac finally decided to stop the rentals because of how the rooms ere left after UH summer school.

    ah. life as a college student


  68. al:

    67...sounds like fun


  69. NotNasti:

    My son is graduating from U Dub in a few weeks. The keynote speaker at the ceremony will be Steve Ballmer, future owner of the Clippers.


  70. Ken:

    #53. Regarding minimum UH funding levels.

    Lifted from the May 2011 UH Board of Regents Reference guide.

    " Historical budget perspective. Historically, regular tuition revenues were retained by the state and the university was almost entirely dependent on state appropriations to cover operating costs. In 1995 the legislature changed this policy and authorized UH to retain and expend revenues from tuition and fees. In addition, the legislature established a formula for determining a minimum amount of state general fund support based on the fiscal year 1994–95 level of appropriations received by the university.

    Much of the impetus for the change in the state’s funding policy for the university came from the continuous lack of economic growth in the state during the 1990s. As a result of the negative impact on state revenues, the legislature has never been able to provide the minimum level of general fund support proposed in 1995. Instead, the university is expected to generate revenues to fund a greater share of its costs."

    Looking at the HRS, the Act referenced above is probably Act 161, SLH 1995.


  71. Biggestuhfan:

    I've always liked Boola's insights #(9). Not only insightful, but an eloquent writer as well. Thanks Boola. Someone will get the message one day.


  72. Boolakanaka:

    69--you mean the future Seattle Supersonics!!? Lol. 71, mahalo for the kind words, but I'm sure most of the tsaikos could put together the same words, with the amount of coffee I drink on the train in the morning.


  73. oldtimer808:

    Mahalo Boola see a lot of good people come out of Aiea and Halawa. All these great simple ideas will just fly over the head of the people in the position to make decisions but Tsaikos keep them coming.


  74. Inyoface:

    Looks like Witteck is staying at USC. Probably be 3rd string in fall.


  75. al:

    74...wow. make A.


  76. Inyoface:

    He'll be behind kody and Max brown.


  77. Boya_jr:

    Boya jr just landed at HNL. looking forward to eating eating eating


  78. T0fuzuke:

    We need to invest in our educational system. We need a lottery for education. Make eighty percent go to Hawaii's school system. Schools should have smaller classes, 2 gyms per bigh sch., teach fine arts, UH vouchers for higher education. UH would also be included, to make it a 1st class institution that we are all proud of, especially the athletics. Instead of one millionaire winner give each island a $100,000 winner. Mainland or foreign winners would get a hotel/air accommodations donated by the community supporters for advertisement. I'm fed up w/cuts, cuts, cuts! I'd vote for a gubernatorial candidate who would make this their platform.


  79. A-House:

    a lottery system has been on the agenda for so many sessions that it has become a regular "hand-me-down" which is looked at to give the residents a feeling that they are doing something, but it will never happen

    they say too many organizations { police - religious - non-profits, etc.} are used as "reasons" (more like excuses to me) the bill fails each and every year - some say the criminal element will takeover the lottery and corrupt people including police officers - hell, don't they do it now?

    a well thought "bill" to set the parameters of operation and use of funds may be enticing enough for passage, but let those "greedy" legislators touch it and they will put all funds into the state general fund so they can "tap" it whenever it suits their "reason" why they need the money { just like the hurricane fund } - union pay raises, etc.

    lottery money must go into a separate fund where the legislature is banned from touching - profits goes to 1) education and 2) improving state medical facilities and 3) set aside $700,000 for 7 separate winners { to start } and increase it until it reaches into the millions when the pot is full

    I try to play the lottery every time I enter a state that participates - say $20 each for the national and state lottery - not so much for winning, but just for fun - a collectors item for an album


  80. A-House:

    wah, wah happon to all the late bloggers?

    nothing from my last post until now?

    sumtin wong!


  81. A-House:

    posters are boycotting this blog?


  82. A-House:

    errie bodie mad at ST?


  83. A-House:

    hello world!

    good morning Viet Nam!

    yabadahbahdoo!!!!!!!!!!!


  84. A-House:

    back to sleep!


  85. Inyoface:

    No ones taking bout football dats why


  86. Shoko:

    That two billion bid of the Clippers, which is more than twice what most investors thought the franchise was worth, makes me wonder if Ballmer is really serious. If not mistaken, I think a Seattle group of investors, that included Ballmer, offered 500-600 million for the Sacramento Kings and around that much for the Milwaukee Bucks during talks about new ownership.


  87. Boolakanaka:

    86--reading some financial papers on Steve's bid said the following (paraphrasing): that most of the parties knew going in, that given the very large LA market, the placement of two of the leagues youngest stars (Blake and Chris), this being a negotiation year for TV contracts/rights (only expected to rise), and that Steve had previously been outbid on the Kings--he delved into the wow factor e.g wanted to distance himself from all other bidders. The common thought had the bids at 1.5 to 1.8 billion, and he purposely outbid everyone by 300 million. And to boot, is paying straight up in cash--that's a wow factor in and of itself--man, has no liquidity problems.

    I'm not too worried- one, as the former Vikings owner, Red Coombs, once said; you gotta be the dumbest kid in the classroom not to make money in professional sports. And the former Harvard, economics major, and former Microsoft head is not a dull bulb.


  88. Shoko:

    It might turn out to be a wise and very long-term investment. That would be dependent on whether he gets approval to move the team and a deal with the Seattle group that want to build a new arena in the SoDo District of Seattle.

    I dunno, as my wife said when hearing about Clooney finally getting engaged to be married...I'll believe it when I see it!!


  89. Boolakanaka:

    Well, as to George Clooney, I'm very curious the under/over action as to him actually getting married.lol


  90. A-House:

    #85:

    yep, like you posted - no football talk, but people still post to whatever comes to mind

    this is not a football only blog, but food, family, friends, and fishing.

    fishing? yep, I love to watch wicked tuna on TV - sometimes they hook a really "bumbucha" ones - 800, 900 #s and it goes straight to Japan!