Newcomers report today

August 2nd, 2014

The newcomers report to training camp today.

It is not as dramatic a procedure because most have completed medical examinations and were briefed on rules and code of conduct. The freshmen have been attending classes during the bridge session that began in July. Strength/conditioning coordinator Gary Beemer had the newcomers in separate offseason workout program.

As always, the freshmen will be allowed to compete for playing time. Red-shirt decisions won't be discussed until the end of training camp.

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Paul George's gruesome injury reminds me of a similar one suffered by former UH wideout  Rodney Bradley, who was on track to quite a career.

119 Responses to “Newcomers report today”

  1. gobows33-dabowman-jeezy33:


  2. oneseason:

    Two ... ordered 2 Rainbow Warrior season tickets

  3. whitey:

    good morning tsaikos. right now, sun shiny morning.

  4. NorthShoreFan:

    Guud Morning Tsaikos...bootiful day. wind...but bootiful...

  5. al:


  6. al:

    Play nicely...not cool to post under known posters.

  7. tommui:

    Just call me AL.


  8. Stephen Tsai:

    I always thought it would be cool to be a season-ticket holder.
    I bought season tickets to Team Hawaii, a long-forgotten soccer team that played at Aloha Stadium. I think John Fink had something to do with that team.
    And, I suppose, I technically was a season-ticket owner when I was at UH. They had a small student activities fee that allowed us entry with our student ID card or "pink slip."
    By the way, in the old days, student and faculty season tickets were included in tabulating season tickets. By that measure, UH should now be allowed to add 15,000 to its current total because all students are required to pay an athletic fee.

  9. Stephen Tsai:

    Well, tomorrow there will be a soft launch of our site. That should be quite an adventure.
    I'll keep everyone posted, but it appears the site will be called hawaiiwarriorworld, or something like that.

  10. A-House:

    Good morning, Tom & al & NSF & whitey & the World!

    cloudy, drizzling, cool day in the valley with some very short, but moderate down pours - great for all the plants including all the anthuriums transplanted by Mrs. A-House.

    fall camp reports should be interesting - especially for the QBs

    wonder how the ILH linemen compare with those of the OIA - Kapolei, Campbell, Waianae, etc.

    hope their parents and coaches have been pushing academics harder than athletics!

  11. Old School Dave:

    How about something like "Rainbowman" based after the old Japanese TV action hero that was shown here locally along with Kikaida and Kamen Rider? :-)

  12. Stephen Tsai:

    Old School Dave:
    Please tell me you're not that old because I seem to remember the same era as you do.

  13. Old School Dave:

    The current generation of local high school players has sure grown. I can remember when a player who weighed in at 250 lbs. was considered "big" back in the day. Of course, you had a lot of guys in high school playing both ways (Ironman Football) back then, too.

  14. A-House:


    your #8 - so true on number of student ticket holder as they also attend games

    if the athletic fee is raised to $100 per semester, this cost is greater than what I pay for "senior" status - being a graduate and supporter since 1959 I guess I can accept this newly found status!

    I still believe that the community colleges should be allowed to purchase sports tickets based on an "athletic fee" as they are part of the UH-Manoa system

    guess, same should be true for the California CC system - but, the D1 schools, don't need that support as their alumnae and fans contribute enough to keep it afloat

  15. Stephen Tsai:

    Very true on the community-college students.

  16. Stephen Tsai:

    I always thought it was strange that walk-ons, like Ryan Pasoquen, have to pay to attend their own games.

  17. Old School Dave:

    Stephen: Unfortunately, that was my era and I am that old. :-(

    I kick myself because I think I threw away a metal Rainbowman or Kikaida garbage can under the house among some junk years ago before you could get $$ for such nostalgia. Baka-mitai!!

  18. bowwar:

    Not into retro despite my years at UH...JJ was correct in establishing a new tradition of winning. Unfortunately, we still have folks thinking backwards...Keep it up & we'll be back to DII again, as we were in the 60s.

  19. whitey:

    OSDave, no feel bad, had 1 original mmouse wristwatch and wen broke, threw it away.

  20. Old School Dave:

    Interesting to note that Utah State's student athletic fee per semester is $135 for 12 - 18 credits. USU students voted in favor of the increase in 2012.

  21. Andrew:


    I'm sure if the students at Utah State lived in Hawaii they may have thought otherwise. I don't know what the cost of living is in Utah but it's definitely less than here.

  22. leron:

    Memory is kinda foggy, but I think the great Pele played here against Team Hawaii. Anyone can confirm/remember this?

  23. Haleakala:

    There is a nice story in the Maui News about Michell Loewen from Lahainaluna. I remembered when he was in high school he was big but looked soft and kind of rotund. He graduated in 2011, walked on at Arkansas and today is a starter at defensive end and can also play TE. And at 6'6", 280, he actually looks slim. He was given a scholarship in his sophomore year. He is the first player from the MIL to play in the SEC.

  24. markazulu:

    just found a video of mariota, woosley and higgins holding a qb camp

  25. Old School Dave:

    21: Good points. COL is a factor, I'm sure. Salaries are lower there, too. A friend of mine said that a gallon of milk goes for $2.49 there compared to $6.00 here.

  26. chopsueyboy:

    Arena Football League Playoffs today at 1pm HST live on CBS Sports (Oceanic 1247)
    Watch former Warriors Shane Austin and Royce Pollard


  27. markazulu:

    Leahey and Leahey: Joey Iosefa

    Leahey and Leahey: Greg Salas

    Mr Salas said it best when it came to UH Football Winning Solves everything!

  28. Stephen Tsai:

    UH is not going back to DII.
    If the current governor allowed that to happen, he would be driving a cab for real.

  29. Stephen Tsai:

    In review ...
    Gibson's is not coming back (although it would be cool if the super slide did).
    Service stations won't be coming back (we're gonna miss Keith at Kuulei Union in Kailua).
    And UH is not going to Division II.

  30. Ron:

    29. Now that was funny! Usually only a lurker.

  31. Andrew:


    haha good one. I can't wait until the elections are over..these commercials are horrible

  32. Andrew:

    If he did ever allow that to happen, I would join the angry mob outside of Washington Place

  33. Stephen Tsai:

    I think it's great that construction is booming and that all of the roads are being fixed. Well, not sure I want them fixed all at the same time.
    And, sure, we all figured it was politically motivated.
    What bothers me is to have a commercial bragging about all the things that are being built. Instead of letting the work speak for itself, it's basically saying: I fixed this. Vote for me.
    Somebody needs to advise somebody that there are ways to receive credit without making it look like you want credit.

  34. Stephen Tsai:

    Would there be a protest or a sit-in?
    For many, the hardest part about a sit-in is to stand up again.

  35. hatakeman:

    Since the subject of student activity fee was brought up, the highest student activity fee for a state school in D1 division is $1000/school-year administered by Rutgers University. I guess that may be partially the reason Rutgers joins the Big 10 this coming season. Rutgers fields 27 varsity teams. Most in the Big 10 is Ohio State which fields 37 varsity teams. Illinois, like Hawaii, fields 21 varsity teams.

  36. 3-Prong:

    22 leron: don't remember who he played against but yes, Pele played here. Went to the game. Remember it being quite an event.

  37. islandman:

    Was it noted here that Kirkwood transferred to Temple ? From the
    forum, it showed he is now listed on the Temple roster.

  38. Shoko:

    28. I don't doubt that would happen if UH did drop down. I remember Apple considering dropping athletics down to DII, now look where he's at now!

    Little audio interview with Rocky Long. He's says some good things about Hawaii right around the 2:30 minute mark and defended Hawaii is the new cellar dweller of the conference.

  39. jeezy33:

    6. I think the moron forgot to sign in to his original screen name.

  40. Old School Dave:

    Hey, election year and gotta fix all of the roads before public schools start on Monday and especially before UH system starts up on Aug 25.

    Did the team find a place to eat their meals during camp?

  41. cocobean:

    The current Guv is a good talker....not much of a doer.

  42. jeezy33:

    Either that or someone is really obsessed with me waking up that early with 1st thing on to do list to refresh the warrior beat non stop so he can be 1st trying to be a fool. Hopefully new site they monitor trolls and limit amount of screen names.

  43. leron:


    He's gone. Let's move on.

  44. Shoko:

    Good interview with Joey on L&L Show. Seems pretty positive about the upcoming season.

  45. Andrew:


    I wouldn't mind a sit-in. It's pretty nice in there

  46. Last Call:

    You can call me Ray, you can call me Jay, you can call me Ray Jay or RJ but you doesn't have to call me call me Hawaii Warrior World.

  47. jm2375:

    Howzit Tsaikos!

    They still haven't fixed a road that needs it badly - Pali Hwy. It's been way too long and the pot holes are getting bigger.

  48. ai-eee-soos:

    " ... injury reminds me of a similar one suffered by former UH wideout Rodney Bradley, who was on track to quite a career ... "

    wasn't he "leg whipped", in a game at Idaho?

  49. oneseason:

    #20 OSD ... fees are one thing, but dollars out of pocket would be the bottom line. And UH undergraduate total tuition cost is almost twice that for Utah State.

    UH Manoa resident general undergrad tuition is $4,920.00 + $390.00 for fees = $5,310 total (12+ credits) ... undergraduates in architecture, business, dental hygienist, pre-engineering/engineering, and nursing have higher fees and pay $5,810 or $6,310 (nursing)

    Utah State resident undergrad tuition is $2,726.83 + $464.84 for fees = $3,191.67 (12-18 credits)

  50. Boolakanaka:

    The DII scenario makes less financial sense the current situation. In short, it would almost entirely shut down any chance for the generation of revenue. Further, there is no way schools Linfield and Cal Lutheran could afford such jaunts on an annual basis. If UH were in the lower 48, it might make for a better argument....

  51. Old School Dave:

    #49: Yes, good points. UH has a steep slope to climb compared to many other MWC schools. Interesting that Pac-12 member Utah's student athletic fee is $85 per semester.

  52. Gottagonow:

    I think the whole UH system, should be audited, evaluated and maybe down sized. Student activity fees should be $100.00, per semester because you support your school and the curriculum. If you don't like it, don't enroll.

  53. Old School Dave:

    Many young folks look at me in disbelief when I tell them that I used to pay $240 per semester at UHM back in the day. Graces chicken katsu plate (no minis back then) was about $4.

  54. Andrew:


    $240 A semester? I've had textbooks that cost just as much as that...

  55. kawika49:

    Kuhio Grill used to take my tickets, for breakfast, lunch and dinner. With smiling Larry the Price there. To impart his philosophy.

  56. oneseason:

    #51 Economic realities are certainly tough on UH. But the situation is not helped by all these terminations for convenience. The $299,000 salary that the new tenured faculty member gets represents an extra $21 for each of the ~ 14,000 undergraduate students at UH Manoa.

  57. SteveM:

    Re: #53
    Old School Dave -- you're kinda young yet. My UH tuition was $125, athletic book for all games was $15 or $20 (I forget), and I don't remember Grace's serving chicken katsu then. But prices were 65 cents per plate and 75 cents for a mixed.

  58. SteveM:

    oneseason -- on the positive side, $299,000 salary down from $439,000 is a $140,000 savings. Saves each undergrad $10 by your figuring. Well, for now anyway... :|

  59. islandman:

    It's possible for UH to be a FCS football team like Cal Poly ? Or it could be like the Big West teams that have no football team, like Cal Irvine.

  60. oneseason:

    #58 SteveM ... Since UH also paid a one time fee of $100,000, the savings is only $40,000 assuming the Chancellor position remains vacant for one year. That would be $2.85 per undergrad. Then again, if the search committee (needed to ensure hiring the best and the brightest) costs more than $40,000, there won't even be a paper savings :)

  61. Andrew:


    Ain't gonna happen. UH will be and will always be a Div 1 school

  62. Andrew:

    in football that is

  63. Haleakala:

    Well without factors since Apple had 3 years left on his contract, the savings would be 40+140+140 or $320k.

  64. oneseason:

    #63 ... that savings would only occur if the Manoa Chancellor job would remain unfilled for those 3 years. We were paying a Chancellor $439K each year. We will be paying a tenured professor $299K and a Chancellor ~$400K each year. That sure looks like a big cost increase to me.

  65. SteveM:

    RE: #63
    Haleakala -- hmmm, by that math we can afford to pay a new Chancellor for a year out of the savings. :? But I wonder how the "Do we really need a Manoa chancellor?" discussions will play out....

  66. Andrew:

    I wouldn't mind if Virginia Hinshaw returned as Chancellor. I mean you're already paying her a tenured Professor salary, so at least then its not a huge increase of adding on another person.

  67. oldtimer808:

    You know you guys must be young to remember Rainbowman and Kikaida. In my days it was Sheriff Ken, Kinipopo and because I'm old I forget who else. Yes Kikaida came after my youthful days. I did support the UH football team in the late sixties when I got home from the service and sat on the wooden benches on the Mauka side of the Termite Palace to watch UH play Humbolt State, Redlands, local military teams etc.

  68. oldtimer808:

    SteveM I only remember the beer at Kuhio Grill was 50 cents.

  69. Sofaking_blk:

    You can say what you want, Bradley was leg whipped by Keo.

  70. Shoko:

    Must have had a lot more dirt roads back then when plate lunches cost 65-75 cents. Can't even get a spam musubi for that price now days.

    I think Kikaida, Rainbowman, Kamenrider, Five Rangers and the like is making a comeback in Japan and gaining popularity with the younger generation. Last time I was there in the Akihabara District (electronics district) there were numerous stores that were selling action figures and other novelty items like a Kamenrider mouse for a computer, which I bought for my nephew that cost $55!

  71. st. anthony trojan:

    Skippy Dyer...

  72. st. anthony trojan:

    Subpac....chuck leahey...block arena basketball...

  73. shoichi84:

    Satele signed by 'phins again to fill in for Mike Pouncey, who is expected to miss 4-6 games to start the season. Go phins! Go bows!

  74. SteveM:

    August 2nd, 2014 at 1:32 pm
    I wouldn't mind if Virginia Hinshaw returned as Chancellor. I mean you're already paying her a tenured Professor salary, so at least then its not a huge increase of adding on another person.

    Andrew -- I agree. Good scenario and justice is served too. I hide my photo of Hinshaw, A-Joe and I at a UH-UNLV road game, and the photos of her, JD, and ST at major Tsai-ko events.... I must admit that I am biased in this matter. :roll:

  75. obachan:

    I remember when hamburgers were 25 cents, cheeseburgers 30 cents, french fries 15 cents and most of all hamburger meat had that beefy taste - not like the cardboard crap they sell today.

  76. Hodad:

    Hinshaw spent UH money like a drunken sailor in a ho house. She's also as dizzy as they come.

  77. Old School Dave:

    In N Out hamburgers are $1.60. As much as I enjoy their burgers on my trips to the continent, I wonder if they could be successful in Hawaii with their limited menu? BTW, they have no such plans to come here. I gotta have my teri burger AND saimin.

  78. turfwar:

    Windward CC was $25 per semester for a full time student and Andy's Drive-In had 5 cheeseburgers for a $1 on Friday nights. Why even go over the Pali in those days.

  79. kapakahi:

    Yuki's downtown.....nearby the Music Box.....across Timmy's Gym......had great homemade burgers.....back in the 70's.

  80. kapakahi:


    My guess is that In-N-Out would do great here.....judging by how long the lines are at FatBurger on-base at Pearl Harbor.....except that it would probably never happen 'cuz it's still a family-owned business......not franchised.

  81. kapakahi:

    Kirkwood now at Temple.....

  82. hatakeman:

    I needed a economy car when I attended UH in the mid-70s, so I bought a new Datsun B210 4-cylinder that gave around 30 mpg. Cost new - $2,800 out the show room. Tuition was $20/credit-hour.

  83. $:

    Rainbow Drive-in had $1.00 chili plates and $1.95 mix plates in the 70's. When ST learned to drive gas was 40 cents a gallon.

  84. islandman:

    Chunky's Drive-In across from old Honolulu Stadium had inexpensive hamburgers, maybe for $ .25 ? FHB is now at that location.

  85. Z:

    Samson Satele signed with the Miami Dilphins.

  86. Z:


  87. gobows33-dabowman-jeezy33:

    Auwe, I'm still a confused angry man .....

  88. Z:

    It seems like I am meeting a lot more people who are not interested in football these days.

  89. gobows33-dabowman-jeezy33:

    Angry man I find your complaining/whining/bitching utterly ridiculous. You are the one who has decided to be the way you are and post what you do. You wrote the post, it is your opinion and people on this blog view it with their perception of your past actions/conduct on this blog.

    What you are doing is like this: You are part of a neighborhood board and have a reputation that is not good. You get in your angry man mode and disrespect your fellow board members. The board members don't agree with you and your lack of common manners and etiquette and call you out on it. Instead of wondering why you are getting called out or your reputation. You bitch about the board members and question the worth of the people on the board.

  90. cocobean:

    #67. Are you old enough to remember Frank Valenti and his Saturday evening Sports Editor Show? Loved the intro to his college scoreboard -- M - I - S - T - E - R, mister touchdown USA, da da da da , he can run pass and throw.... Those days no video except from the past week, just scores and some commentary. He also hosted a show called Biddy Boxing. I think all the matches were between kids under 12 and was run in conjunction with PAL.

  91. C-Pop:

    Great for Samson Satele, he has been a solid starter for Miami,Oakland, & Indianapolis.

  92. kapakahi:

    With Glenn Dorsey out for the season, wonder if 49ers might consider signing the Dolphins did with Satele while Pouncey out.

  93. kawika49:

    #84 How about the shrimp Boat? The buggah was ono.

  94. A-House:

    with the coming move of this blog tomorrow or Monday - how long with this one stay up?

  95. al:

    is that a trick question?

  96. al:

    chunky's beef cutlet n brown gravy!!!

  97. urasoe:

    22 Leron, Pele' or Edison Arantes dos Nascimentos played in Hawaii with the New York Cosmos. I saw him one day walking in Waikiki, and I was the only one that recognized him. I talked with him, and he told me how beautiful Hawaii is. He played for Santos, and the city of Santos is similar to Hawaii, a city by Atlantic ocean with large cruise ships by the pier. I saw when he scored the 1000 goal, and it was a penalty shot against Vasco da Gama at the Maracanan stadium in Rio de Janeiro. It also was my last day in Brasil as I left to Hawaii, I believe it was the last day of 1969.

  98. al:

    80...they will only expand to a location where they can deliver there hamburgers to "fresh chilled." there pride is hamburger made with beef that has never been frozen. hamburger originates from central processing plant.

  99. lonomakana:

    #89 Really, that's enough. "Before setting out on the path of revenge, dig two graves." - Buddha (I think).

  100. islandman:

    93. Never tried it, sounds good.

    90. How about Joe Rose,Gene Good etc. on radio.

    71. Crazy legs Hirsch in the Hula Bowl(s).

    67. Lucky Luck

  101. al:


  102. al:

    oh crap!

  103. al:

    100...are those country singers?

  104. al:

    90...thats the lead singer for the four seasons, right?

  105. al:

    how about all star drive inn. 25 cents cheeseburgers with its funky mayo, mustard, and relish sauce.

  106. cocobean:

    beefy boy, cheesey gal, teri king, teri queen, Suzie Q. Mynah Bird Drive in before Kenny Kaneshiro renamed it to Jolly Roger. The logo for Jolly Roger was a pirate with a mynah bird on his shoulder instead of a parrot.

  107. oldtimer808:

    #90 Frank Valenti also had an advertising agency. I remember Biddy Boxing. Talking about boxing Carl "Bobo" Olsen used to train in Kalihi. There was a small gym behind the Kalihi Union Church from Richard Lane. It was torn down.

  108. oldtimer808:

    The old Kenny's Drive-in on North School St used to have a thick chocolate malt and it was ono.

  109. 3-Prong:

    96 Big Al: gotta agree wichu on da Chunky's Beef Cutlet and Brown Gravy. Anybody make anything similar?

  110. turfwar:

    #24 Markazulu thanks for that link. Seeing Mariota participate at a camp alongside the two Warrior QB's put him in a different light for me. I'm even more of a fan now. Hope he brings home the Heisman. Yeah he's a Duck but he's an Island Son first.

  111. AlaWai:

    Good day for UH Alumnus Salas

  112. SteveM:

    3-prong -- Chunky's beef cutlet w/gravy on the rice was the only thing I usually ordered. I don't know of anyplace close today. Maybe Ritchie's/Rainbow but I think the gravy is different.

  113. gobows33-dabowman-jeezy33:

    #99, What revenge? This is about ignorance ....

    “You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” Harlan Ellison

  114. BigFan:

    Here's the link to Brian McInnis blog, I believe it will take you to the main page if you leave off court sense so you can access the other warrior blogs. I got it off Brian's blog.

  115. Pomai:

    Looks like the new site is already up and running

  116. 3-Prong:

    Thanks Steve, will give it a try.

  117. d1shima:

    Great Morning All!

    Wow! Watta rush!

    Tried posting at the new said I said wat I said 10 hours from now! :shock: :twisted: :lol:

  118. kapakahi:

    Makes sense for OLB Jared Afalava to consider transferring to that his family has moved back to the North Shore.

    Younger brother Jacob '16 now with Red Raiders will bear watching this coming season.

  119. tommui:


    Just a postscript that people have already gone on to the new HawaiiWarriorWorld - postings are at around 127 while this one (the old one) is only at my #119